Black Ranger
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Could have said the same for Finster.
Someone who could have been so easily used today.
was NK'd.
RIP
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Could have said the same for Finster.
Someone who could have been so easily used today.
was NK'd.
RIP
Blue Ranger
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What do you think of his train then? A mislynch? Because he's been habitually suspect these past few days with his flipflopping.
Yeah, I disagree with that (you not being able to sway votes over) but I understand why you you wouldn't want to push a lynch in the last 30 minutes.
Black Ranger
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I don't, why? If you think you CAN push a new lynch on someone you believe is scum, why wouldn't you?
Trini
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Seems unfair to expect people to jump on a Green lynch when you yourself removed your vote from Green.
Only Alpha5 has a vote on Green at the moment, and I'm fine with a Green or Jason lynch and Jason is currently ahead.
Green Ranger
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You're right. Although they did kill Finster so who knows with this scum team.
i don't know what to think now, in light of black ranger's actions.
in addition to throwing away his greatest assist as a vanilla townie (IF HE'S EVEN THAT), he just drew attention away from the jason lynch...
don't you dare compare yourself to my most loyal and wonderful of minions, you early claiming heathen. : |
Black Ranger
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For those that want a vote count without going to the vote tool
Black Ranger
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==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
jason (4 votes)
trini - #999 #1001
bulk - #1018 #1300
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
skull - #1249
black ranger (3 votes)
rita repulsa - #857 #900
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090 #1226
kimberly - #1230
bulk - #1300
trini (3 votes)
zordon - #893 #1034
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
zack - #1175
billy (2 votes)
black ranger - #1093
zordon - #1226
red ranger (1 votes)
black ranger - #860 #1093
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
zordon - #1034 #1090
alpha 5 - #1125
trini [\highlight] (0 votes)
jason - #1142 #1143
skull (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #900 #936
Post Counts:
black ranger: 66 trini: 51 rita repulsa: 50 zordon: 49 kimberly: 34 pink ranger: 32 skull: 27 zack: 25 alpha 5: 18 red ranger: 17 blue ranger: 16 jason: 12 white ranger: 10 bulk: 10 green ranger: 10 billy: 8 yellow ranger: 5 tommy: 5 sawneeks: 4 melonrabbit: 4
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Day Start
jason (4 votes)
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
skull - #1249
black ranger (3 votes)
pink ranger - #1076
kimberly - #1230
bulk - #1300
trini (3 votes)
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
zack - #1175
billy (2 votes)
black ranger - #1093
zordon - #1226
red ranger (1 votes)
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
alpha 5 - #1125
trini [\highlight] (0 votes)
skull (0 votes)
Post Counts:
black ranger: 66 trini: 51 rita repulsa: 50 zordon: 49 kimberly: 34 pink ranger: 32 skull: 27 zack: 25 alpha 5: 18 red ranger: 17 blue ranger: 16 jason: 12 white ranger: 10 bulk: 10 green ranger: 10 billy: 8 yellow ranger: 5 tommy: 5 sawneeks: 4 melonrabbit: 4
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Zack
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Zyaaaaa literally JUST said they didn't think they could push a new lynch at that point, wtf
Alpha 5
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I am feeling worse and worse about the Black Ranger the longer this day goes on. I don't understand his game right now at all, but it no longer feels town.
I would be happy to fix that for you, if you like. My choice between voting you or Green was practically a coun toss.
Skull
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I don’t remember your opinion on the Finster NK. I take it you just thought it was bad play?
Black Ranger
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I know you said that but I'm asking Blue. Why they understand that you wouldn't want to push a new lynch and I'm asking why would he think that. (since he disagrees saying they think you could push a new lynch)
Jason
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How do you literally have the largest proponent to my lynch on your scum reads list? It doesn't make sense. Do you just repeat this tomorrow with Trini after my flip?
Also Black ranger? Why did you claim with no heat? That does not make a lot of sense. I had you town read, and early claiming can go either way. This early day 2 claim though, it opens you up if you DO have a role and there are things like Motion detectors/trackers/watcher. Because liars get lynched.
Green Ranger
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I thought it was weird but it's hard to call it bad play when we don't know the reasoning for it.
Tommy
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This is my stance reading back. I mean Jason is unfortunate, but it's not a clear cut scum case. Maybe for me its even more town than scum. I can't see scum doing what he is doing and yes, maybe that's shaky reasoning, but it is what it is.
I've had a worse feeling about Alpha 5. Don't like the day 1 contribution and switch from Finster to Goldar. Did he defend the accusation from Green about that?
I'd wish I could contribute more, but I just didn't have the time yet. My apologies and I promise I reread during the night.
i reacted
i don't like it
you scum.
black's actions don't make much sense from a town or scum perspective
JUST LIKE GOLDAR LAST DAY PHASE
Pink Ranger
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You are just slipping under everyone's radar. If you want attention just admit you are scum!
Pink Ranger
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Reconciled by town being idiots.
Black Ranger
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I was asked if I was neutral, so I thought "Fuck it" and just claimed outright.
Wonder if we have a cop to read me.
Then again, I may end up lynched (things can quickly at the final minutes) or NK'd so who knows.
Still laughing at Finsters NK, wtf scum team
Alpha 5
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Maybe no one saw it, since it was at the bottom of the page?
Do you really think the Black Ranger is scum, or are you just messing with people's heads here?
Red Ranger
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You're the one calling people out for not voting for me.
Alpha 5
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Last I checked, you don't even have a vote down yet today.
Blue Ranger
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Because of the liabilities involved in chasing a lynch with 30 minutes to go. There's some risk of being associated with other trains, WIFOM arguments, etc. that usually I'd suppose people would think it's not worth it unless they're really deep in that tunnel.
Alpha 5
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Mostly because last minute voting can come very quickly, and I am a slow typer on mobile. In the end, things were slower than I initially feared.
Black Ranger
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Fair point I suppose. Just if you think you can push and really believe they are scum, I'd say go for it and push for it.
But I suppose I can see your point.
Skull
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I think I wrote that weirdly. I’m town leaning Trini and Blue, actually. Blue from his back and forth with White on D1 (though I confess I payed little attention to him today) and my opinion on Trini D1 carried over. The change in her gears after almost biting D1 is interesting to me, and I think her posts have more substance than your right now. If she’s actually scum, her posts will eventually show that.
Blue Ranger
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So...what are you saying here?
Bulk
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I'd be interested in hearing to you both's cases on my scumminess.
Well, I wish I was super confident about anyone else as much as I am about Jason, but I wouldn't discount black's frustration as an easily-frustrated scum's attitude. I'll eventually switch back (or will I :O) but I did want to see if it'd move any votes in any direction if I took some pressure off of Jason and gave some people the idea that it wasn't a done deal. With Jason at ~5 I was worried people were just coasting to the end of the day without having to think about their votes a bit more.
Bulk
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I'm not sure what you think about Jason, but you either believe (1) I'm scum jumping ship out of a lynch I know is town, which is something that at this point I doubt could take back the effect of 2 days of tunneling on Jason, and into a vote for someone who just claimed town, or (2) jumping out of a fellow's scum pretty-much-assured lynch and who I've been bussing since D1 because... ???
Zordon
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It's completely fair to ask people to discuss my posting about his activity and contributions, however, which no one did really beyond you. I'm trying to determine if people are just up in their tunnels or just not worried about Green.
You weren't a presence all phase. Why would people suddenly pay you attention now?
Zordon
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So you claim when you don't need to
and now you're role fishing
Your whole MO honestly feels like purposeful bad town play, kinda like Rita's RP and Zack's masquerade, like you decided to imitate a bad townie as a scum cover. It's that terrible. It feels so blatant for scum but it's ridiculous for town. But you're also ducking questions and that makes me lean toward scum.
Black Ranger
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Can always switch your vote back to me I guess.
Kimberly
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Have had a quick skim of Green. Couple of little things worth noting, in my opinion: Their posts today have consisted of very little today (I've focused on D2 for the sake of time).
Votes Red almost immediately after Black does so but then complains about Black's Goldar vote a bit (perhaps to distance himself from Black after they both vote Red at the very beginning of the day?).
Doesn't respond to your vote or when you tried to call them out.
However, did respond to Alpha 5's vote on them by claiming that they don't have to defend themselves from every vote (even though they are defending themselves from a vote by doing this).
And then there is nothing of substance. Some moans about people talking about Finster and assuming that Black will be NK'd.
I don't see me voting Green today but I've definitely got scope to watch them more closely tomorrow.
Zordon
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Here is my big dilemma:
We have an abundance of players just not here:
White, swapped in, had a few decent contributions, but nothing to write home about
Billy, who has promised reads and promised better play and did nothing at all
Green Ranger, full of hot air and nothing but the most basic of commentary
Yellow Ranger, nothing really, all of five posts, possibly replaced?
Tommy, got replaced
Then we have Black Ranger, who is I guess trying to look as scummy as possible?
Then there's my other scum possibility, Trini, who keeps leaving herself out of things but also says sure, let's vote out Green Ranger
Then there's my other scum possibility, Jason, who wants to vote for Trini?
And yet we're right back near where we were day one.
We have an abundance of players just not here:
White, swapped in, had a few decent contributions, but nothing to write home about
Billy, who has promised reads and promised better play and did nothing at all
Green Ranger, full of hot air and nothing but the most basic of commentary
Yellow Ranger, nothing really, all of five posts, possibly replaced?
Tommy, got replaced
Then we have Black Ranger, who is I guess trying to look as scummy as possible?
Then there's my other scum possibility, Trini, who keeps leaving herself out of things but also says sure, let's vote out Green Ranger
Then there's my other scum possibility, Jason, who wants to vote for Trini?
And yet we're right back near where we were day one.
Kimberly
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I get that you're happy enough to throw yourself under the claim bus but please don't try to goad others into doing it.
Bulk
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First 4 reads, in player list order. Also, I'm defaulting to them/theirs for pronouns because I suck at being consistent and I'm in a rush.
Tommy - Some NAI posts, a prod vote on Goldar they promptly removed after Goldar so much as blinked which they later claimed was to look for a reaction. Got called out for that and then the rest of the day they just went in circles talking about that same thing. They later posted a list of people they wanted to hear more from which seemed like it had some effort. Quick note: This post felt odd to me because why clarify, it felt like them being overly careful of their words. Later voted for Trini for a lazy vote on Jason. Then got replaced. My thoughts: I'm gonna go with slightly town, mostly because I see both town and scum doing the prod vote thing, and they seem to be making an effort and justifying theirthoughts.
Billy - The pro lynch thing out of nowhere was odd. Errr, that's it? They also gave some lists of people they felt ok about but barely justified them, and uh. Yeah. My thoughts: Complete null read. I'm pretty dumbfounded at the fact people are voting for them. Why? Is this an inactivity lynch? After Finster's death giving us hopes of making a strong lynch today I'd expect some more substance from people in regards to whom they want to lynch.
Rita - Rita has been so active this game I only took a look at their latest posts because I was drowning in them. Generally speaking the tone I've gotten from them is they're pretty playful, which does make me read them as town generally, plus all that activity and semi-tunneling that I can actually identify with during the early game. The justification they had for their vote on Trini was a bit weak IMO, but I'll grant that mine for tunneling Jason initially was as well. Today they added me to the hitlist but they haven't really backed up those thoughts with anything so far. They seem to have a good read on the game though, and they're definitely on top of people like Skull and Black and not afraid to change course according to what's happening, so it's someone I'd rather keep around.
Zordon - Also a very strong player (why oh why are they listed just after Rita) and I'm enjoying the coincidental flavor clashes between them and Rita given they've been the most engaged players. Like Rita, they seem to have a good pulse on the game and be on top of things. Voted for Black early on, called out Yellow Ranger, Zack, Tommy and others for things they found odd, and generally had a strong D1 and I think they've been consistent with that today, as well. Overall, probably my highest town read rn. Why oh why are you voting for Billy, though? This feels like such an odd vote coming from someone who's so engaged. Is it that you scumread everyone and somehow fell for the safest inactivity vote possible? Snap out of it if so, @Zordon .
Tommy - Some NAI posts, a prod vote on Goldar they promptly removed after Goldar so much as blinked which they later claimed was to look for a reaction. Got called out for that and then the rest of the day they just went in circles talking about that same thing. They later posted a list of people they wanted to hear more from which seemed like it had some effort. Quick note: This post felt odd to me because why clarify, it felt like them being overly careful of their words. Later voted for Trini for a lazy vote on Jason. Then got replaced. My thoughts: I'm gonna go with slightly town, mostly because I see both town and scum doing the prod vote thing, and they seem to be making an effort and justifying theirthoughts.
Billy - The pro lynch thing out of nowhere was odd. Errr, that's it? They also gave some lists of people they felt ok about but barely justified them, and uh. Yeah. My thoughts: Complete null read. I'm pretty dumbfounded at the fact people are voting for them. Why? Is this an inactivity lynch? After Finster's death giving us hopes of making a strong lynch today I'd expect some more substance from people in regards to whom they want to lynch.
Rita - Rita has been so active this game I only took a look at their latest posts because I was drowning in them. Generally speaking the tone I've gotten from them is they're pretty playful, which does make me read them as town generally, plus all that activity and semi-tunneling that I can actually identify with during the early game. The justification they had for their vote on Trini was a bit weak IMO, but I'll grant that mine for tunneling Jason initially was as well. Today they added me to the hitlist but they haven't really backed up those thoughts with anything so far. They seem to have a good read on the game though, and they're definitely on top of people like Skull and Black and not afraid to change course according to what's happening, so it's someone I'd rather keep around.
Zordon - Also a very strong player (why oh why are they listed just after Rita) and I'm enjoying the coincidental flavor clashes between them and Rita given they've been the most engaged players. Like Rita, they seem to have a good pulse on the game and be on top of things. Voted for Black early on, called out Yellow Ranger, Zack, Tommy and others for things they found odd, and generally had a strong D1 and I think they've been consistent with that today, as well. Overall, probably my highest town read rn. Why oh why are you voting for Billy, though? This feels like such an odd vote coming from someone who's so engaged. Is it that you scumread everyone and somehow fell for the safest inactivity vote possible? Snap out of it if so, @Zordon .
in what world does one scum becoming the lynch to protect another make sense...?
Bulk
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I... I'm sorry :'(
Trini
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In a world where scum itself is divided into power role scum and "ordinary scum".
Do I know if that's the case? No. But its a possibility. Trade a regular scum so you can have your power role scum get off an additional night action.
Zordon
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Bulk, I said when I voted that I was putting that vote there to see if Billy would appear while I reread. I do not think it is my final vote today. But there are too many people just working overtime to look scummy as possible. what are you doing, town? You can't all be scum.
Zordon
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I would expect a town player to not hedge and hide the fact that their speculation could also color them actually. I would expect a town player to be forthright.
Why would someone do that day two when they weren't strongly being considered? Maybe late game. But early?
don't like zordon's vote on billy
trades like that are super bad for scum and they try to avoid them.
scum have power in numbers
Bulk
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Ok. I still think Billy isn't worth even your "while I reread" vote, though. You could be calling out more active people, I find it hard to believe your scum reads are so "leveled" that Billy's at the same level than your top ~3 scum leans.
Black Ranger
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If a PR scum is a lynch target ie Jason, a regular scum could try and save them by becoming the lynch target
Makes perfect sense unless you know for a fact that the current vote leader isn't scum.
Black Ranger
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True but if it's a choice between two scums, choosing one with a strong PR over a normal scum is better
Zordon
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This is not remotely what I said.
Did you misread or are you trying to put words into my mouth?
Kimberly
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Do you know for a fact that Jason isn't scum?
Zordon
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Black Ranger
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Nope.
Trini
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Fits my theory too well, but like Black just said (why'd YOU have to say it Black) it makes sense if the current vote lead is the PR scum.
Black Ranger
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I said it cause it makes perfect sense to me. It's all about the bigger picture for scum I'm sure.
Trini
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Voting for Black Ranger is a mistake. If he's town, this is just throwing away a body we still need.
If he's scum we need to question why he's self-destructing on D2. Would scum really just do this? It doesn't make sense unless it is to protect someone else and that someone else would have to be Green or Jason logically I think.
If he's scum we need to question why he's self-destructing on D2. Would scum really just do this? It doesn't make sense unless it is to protect someone else and that someone else would have to be Green or Jason logically I think.
Trini
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Is this quadruple reverse psychology?
Seriously if you are town, this is so messed up. If you're scum.... whyyyy
Bulk
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That was not my intention, but that's how I interpreted what you said. It's still a prod vote you're placing while you re-read the thread, no?
I'd be interested in knowing if people agree with you that I read that wrong, and regardless, I still stand by my words that your vote is going to waste rn.
Pink Ranger
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Damn. My initial pus on Black Ranger was based on not having a good read on them despite their many posts. So call them mafia and see what happens.
I fully expected a bit of pressure and eventually I would feel fine but instead it seems they have crumbled. Definitely didn't see it going this way. I don't know what to do. I have plenty of other scum reads but my town reads are on this vote, Black is calling them scum; so I feel like I need to stick this one out and see the flip.
It isn't ideal since Black is posting in the thread while others are doing far less. But still...
I fully expected a bit of pressure and eventually I would feel fine but instead it seems they have crumbled. Definitely didn't see it going this way. I don't know what to do. I have plenty of other scum reads but my town reads are on this vote, Black is calling them scum; so I feel like I need to stick this one out and see the flip.
It isn't ideal since Black is posting in the thread while others are doing far less. But still...
Kimberly
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Curious to see how the quiet posters will continue to hide though if Black is lynched tonight.
Yellow Ranger
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I’ve been trying to read the thread while at work and I’m honestly sorry but I am having a difficult time with the game today. My vote is on Jason and honestly I don’t have much to add to that other than that he is my only real solid scum read. Most other people that are pinging people as scum just... haven’t been setting off those alarm bells for me. The Trini case has felt wrong to me since yesterday, and the arguments against her just don’t convince me. The same goes for Black Ranger, to a lesser extent. The whole “town leader” debate D1 felt like it was way too forced, and while I don’t like the ordinary claim to get reactions or w/e that he made, it still doesn’t make me see him as scum. I don’t feel great about Blue Ranger, but that’s essentially just because of his behavior D1, so that hasn’t really advanced this phase at all. For me that’s mostly just Jason, who I did not feel good about D1 and still don’t feel good about for many of his posts D2. There have been posts by some saying it’s too early to be looking for links, but frankly I feel lost without the hunt for those links, and having only two flips (including my D1 strongest scum read that I was wrong about) makes it even harder
Zordon
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If he's town we don't need self-sabotaging town distracting the thread. If he's scum, we can vote him off. If it's a scum ploy, we can watch votes. If he's town we can still watch votes. Why are you always so determined to shut down discussion/votes that aren't in line with what you want?
It was a waste because I don't think Billy is going to show up at this time of day and so will get replaced but earlier it felt perfectly valid. We do need to get rid of these people who aren't playing, or make them play. But I have a real vote now. You feel better?
Pink Ranger
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Do we really want to lynch Black though?
I still scum read Trini and that lynch would clear up a lot of how day actually went. And I still like most the voters on Trini across both days so it has that going for it as well.
Bulk
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Dunno, your hostility is weirding me out a bit. I don't know if that's how you want to come across, but your general attitude towards me pointing out I felt like you were wasting your vote feels way harsher than I expected.
Zordon
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I don't think anyone said (maybe they did/ maybe I did lol) it was too early to think about links at all. But some people seem to be trying to only think in links and that just leads to a mislynch chain.
Zordon
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I didn't feel particularly hostile? Sorry if you took it that way I guess.
Trini
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You're actually right about that...
If he is scum and protecting someone its still a scum that has to die eventually. You're right, I tunneled too much on Jason.
But I still am not sure Black is scum.
Kimberly
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I feel like Zordon has summed this up well though:
And I know I was on Trini yesterday but today I'm really not feeling the vote there today. I don't think that Trini is always the best at articulating themselves so sometimes the posts aren't helping their case but I'm really getting a Town feel from her today. Yesterday gave them a fright I think and they seem to be trying a lot harder today, even if some of their reasoning isn't always sound. Just my thoughts on the matter though.
Black Ranger
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Well when I was trying to be helpful, I was accused of making fluff posts or trying to look busy which I disagreed with, showing the receipts as you put it would accomplish nothing since we seem to disagree on my posts.
So I'm fine with being lynched. It will prove that I was just a town trying to look for scum and obviously failing before self destructing.
so w/e
Kimberly
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It's hard though that when you say "trying to look for scum" but wouldn't really back up your scum reads with evidence then it's tricky to trust your "gut feels" that you were giving us. And if you are lynched and flip Town then what have you left us to look back on?
I want to believe you when you say you're Town but I'm struggling to see where you're currently trying to help. If we're going in the direction of a mislynch, give us somewhere else to look.
Yellow Ranger
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You were one of them I think, or at least I interpreted it that way. Either way it’s not like it would stop me from playing how I play, but I’m having trouble finding these links at this point all the same, and without those to lean on I’m having a rough time with so few flips. Part of what makes it tough is that Finster was one of the two flips, so I totally understand the case agaisnt them from the people who suspected them (and I was on the Goldar vote at the end so I understand that to a degree as well).
Blue Ranger
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This is such a bullshit post I'm surprised Kimberly walked over, commented and didn't bat an eye. You were championing a BR lynch so why are you trying to distance yourself now? Even given that you were just trying to put on pressure, you then go on to say that you dont really have a read on Black either way, but you're fine with the lynch because it might tell you things. What things? Are you going to change your opinion on those town reads of BR turns up town? If he turns up scum?
But still...Ranger please. You are literally hedging your vote Pink, and that feels bad.
Green Ranger
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I understand some of the arguments for Black Ranger but I don't know if I see them as scum. Scum aren't going to just claim ordinary out of nowhere, especially with only two votes on them at the time.
Black Ranger
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I have a lot of posts here, a good chunk of that was me asking things or fishing for information. People disagree and just say it's fluff that went nowhere but I was still trying.
My gut feels are just gut feels.
Look elsewhere? I'd say look towards Zordon, we don't have a town leader but he's the closest thing I think we have to one. Someone who is aggressive and who isn't pressured much at all.
Of course that's still more gut read than anything.
Bulk
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Wait, I realized the player list does have their pronouns, obviously. I'll just keep them on my notes while I write.
Blue Ranger - Made a big deal of people explicitly saying they RNG'd their vote. Didn't say so explicitly but essentially agreed with me being puzzled about Black's designation as "town leader", went after Black Ranger for a bit, then White Ranger (for the random vote thing) and finally settled on Goldar, being one of the votes that tipped them towards the lynch. D2, talked a bit about Goldar acting confusingly (https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19911/), then said Goldar "worked a lot harder not to get lynched"(https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19953/), and since then he's been kind of engaging with posts here and there but not really putting down any hard opinions. Weird vibes from him today. I'm gonna lean scum a bit on him for now. @Blue Ranger you planning to place a vote today?
Green Ranger - His most telling post is the one in which he says he's never picked a lynch based on past behavior (https://outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19112/), which is kind of a weird denial of the meta and how the game works, but it's not much beyond eyebrow-raising odd. Voted for yellow as a prod vote, then Billy as (I guess) another prod vote, and eventually settled for Goldar after his day-end-timing fumble. Today he was quick to vote for Red Ranger, as the player he thought most likely to be scum from Goldar's train, which makes me doubt if he'd do as scum since he was there too. Hasn't said much since, other than saying they'd lynch Billy immediately, which again, tells me they either haven't been paying that much attention to have stronger reads, or they're ok with a super safe no-info lynch right now.
2 good underrated scummish reads IMO, with blue being slightly more scummy than green.
Blue Ranger - Made a big deal of people explicitly saying they RNG'd their vote. Didn't say so explicitly but essentially agreed with me being puzzled about Black's designation as "town leader", went after Black Ranger for a bit, then White Ranger (for the random vote thing) and finally settled on Goldar, being one of the votes that tipped them towards the lynch. D2, talked a bit about Goldar acting confusingly (https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19911/), then said Goldar "worked a lot harder not to get lynched"(https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19953/), and since then he's been kind of engaging with posts here and there but not really putting down any hard opinions. Weird vibes from him today. I'm gonna lean scum a bit on him for now. @Blue Ranger you planning to place a vote today?
Green Ranger - His most telling post is the one in which he says he's never picked a lynch based on past behavior (https://outermafia.com/index.php?posts/19112/), which is kind of a weird denial of the meta and how the game works, but it's not much beyond eyebrow-raising odd. Voted for yellow as a prod vote, then Billy as (I guess) another prod vote, and eventually settled for Goldar after his day-end-timing fumble. Today he was quick to vote for Red Ranger, as the player he thought most likely to be scum from Goldar's train, which makes me doubt if he'd do as scum since he was there too. Hasn't said much since, other than saying they'd lynch Billy immediately, which again, tells me they either haven't been paying that much attention to have stronger reads, or they're ok with a super safe no-info lynch right now.
2 good underrated scummish reads IMO, with blue being slightly more scummy than green.
Zordon
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1. What I've been saying is that only looking for links this early is not usually a great path (see above for part of why) but also
2. your own words I bolded because we don't really have links yet.
Yes play how you're going to play because that's really all we can do but I think it's really important to look down multiple paths too.
I have to go to the gym before it closes but I will be back before eod.
Red Ranger
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Just waiting till its decided so I can finally jump on it.
Black Ranger
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So we don't have another Goldar situation where someone thinks the day ends in half an hourish
We have one and a half hours from this post until EoD
We have one and a half hours from this post until EoD
Alpha 5
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So who are you reading as scum? Your vote is still on the Red Ranger. Do you plan on leaving it there for now?
Blue Ranger
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Yeah, I'm planning to place a vote down. Elaborate on those weird vibes pal.
Green Ranger
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Decided as in voting for a clear lynch candidate when that's clear or when you pick someone independently?
Blue Ranger
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I'll be back in like, 30-40 minutes, don't burn down the base.
Green Ranger
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I'd still like to see a Red Ranger lynch but I don't know if that will happen today. Otherwise, I'm looking at Jason, Trini and maybe Pink Ranger.
Bulk
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Unless I'm reading this wrong, I think Black already called the "so obviously scum must not be scum" position. Would rather not have 2 playing the same game.
Pink Ranger
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Because it isn't pressure if no one believes you are sincere. From what has happened I think there is a good chance Black Ranger is mafia.
Black Ranger
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Kimberly
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I don't have a problem with you asking questions. My issue is that you don't always follow these up and you certainly don't use the information gained from these to inform your vote.
So do you think aggression=scumminess? And could you maybe give me an example of said aggression?
Black Ranger
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Just his general posts towards me since yesterday feel like aggression to a player he can tell doesn't do well under pressure.
Just how I feel.
I don't always follow them up because it's like I'm taking notes in my head, things I can look back on later on. If I don't follow things up, it's because I don't have anything else to add, except to take note of things.
The information gained from these isn't necessarily to inform my vote, but to give information that may be of use down the line even if not today. One question asked on one day depending on the answer can come back to bite someone in the butt on D4 or 5.
Red Ranger
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Yeah I don't buy that Black is scum.
Vote: Jason
Vote: Jason
Bulk
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They're just that. It mostly feels like after those initial posts about Goldar and Trini you've been mostly inserting yourself in the conversation rather than actively participating. Maybe my perception was a bit colored by your umprompted reply to Rita (who wasn't talking to you) which I saw as a way justify your vote, and the followup on how Goldar had put in more effort not to get lynched, which I saw as a bit of a backpedal.
Yellow Ranger
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I don’t disagree that I need to try multiple approaches. I’m just notably particularly lost this phase.