Cult Thread Against Bastard! Cult Chat

Sorian

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Anything new going on with you guys and your chats?

I’m also lost on who the scum is here with Brazil and Fandorin, I’d like to lynch another scum today but they are both acting so odd.
 

Kyanrute

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my #feel is on fando being scum but lol i haven't really read anything regarding the brothers too seriously

and boat 11 is talking game balance

and if i die next night ketkat is a godfather, just keep that in mind
 

Sorian

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my #feel is on fando being scum but lol i haven't really read anything regarding the brothers too seriously

and boat 11 is talking game balance

and if i die next night ketkat is a godfather, just keep that in mind

You say anything in there that would make you think a scum Ket would kill you?
 

Kyanrute

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I joked about her being a godfather while exchanging banter about Bae's green check on her.

So if I die, she obviously is one. right. right? perhaps. maybe.

Not really serious about this but, you know, look out for the 1% case.
 
I was gonna go all "don't die, we need you," but then I double checked the role PM and I see that any of us can recruit other members and we don't have a leader. So you can die if you want to. Just, you know, try to avoid it.

Nothing in my chat. We're not the most active in it. absolutbro didn't end up making the push for Faddy he was going to, but he does say that his vote will likely land on him. He has a theory that Fran is actually scum, and that as a complement to turmoil being the "Mafia Universal Backup," his would be a mafia-aligned "Town Universal Backup." Doesn't want to bring it up in the thread yet; thinks it'll be best when Fran lives more and more people are willing to listen.

Not sure if his silence about his role is indicative of anything. I did manage to throw a subtle line tying what my role is to why I disagree with his sentiment on Fran's, but didn't reply. Leaning towards being vanilla town, but that might change depending on the Faddy flip.
 
Was going to bring up the modifiers just now, but decided against it. Don't want to come across as too pre-occupied with them. Well, not yet.

There's a chance we're not the only ones affected by the modifiers beyond a surface level.
 

Sorian

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I wouldn’t push modifier talk too much more, I feel like it’s better for us if people just go with the flow, I think everyone has said whatever they care to say about it and I don’t think we need to work around if scum or someone else is also getting some benefit from them.
 
Yeah, that's right. Not until there's a flip that explicitly indicates there's something else going on. Before I was recruited, I didn't think that was even a thing. Someone had brought up the [Redacted] line in the scum PM earlier saying that it could be related to something more going on with the modifiers, and I was going to quote it to highlight that, but decided against it for the same reason.

Sawneeks is the first one who brought up the possibility of scum getting new powers based on the modifier in post #3,422, for future reference.
 

Kyanrute

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Overall, the cult does not exist. Anything that could give the idea that we do, is baaaaaaaaaaad.

especially if ab is a silly scum narrating scum thread in the main chat
 

Sorian

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Yeah, that's right. Not until there's a flip that explicitly indicates there's something else going on. Before I was recruited, I didn't think that was even a thing. Someone had brought up the [Redacted] line in the scum PM earlier saying that it could be related to something more going on with the modifiers, and I was going to quote it to highlight that, but decided against it for the same reason.

Sawneeks is the first one who brought up the possibility of scum getting new powers based on the modifier in post #3,422, for future reference.

I think scum know a cult exists, I think that’s what the redacted part is. It could be anything though, could also be a secret partner mention, who knows
 
There it is. This mechanics talk is liable to get me lynched if people come to the wrong conclusions and think a commuter shouldn't exist.

But I feel that because of D2's end and how I acted in D3, I should have enough townie points.
 

Sorian

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Lolol I afk for like 45 minutes I get some work done and come back to the day over.
 
Price is Right has to give us a recruitment point. Was hoping it'd be more divided, with people still gunning for Heroes vs Villains so I could jump in at some point, but it seems that Price is Right will dominate. That's fine.

Things are going smoothly for town... but that's not necessarily a good thing for us since we'd want to extend the game for long enough that there are plenty of mislynches and town kills to whittle down the numbers.
 

Kyanrute

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Ketkat is entertaining the idea that she has saved up to two people. Not that there is anything to prove that but all this protection does give that argument some cred. Will we see two kills tomorrow?
 
Has KetKat elaborated on her doctor role at all in your chat? Is it infinite use? Doesn't seem like she was notified if her protection was successful or not.
 

Kyanrute

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She hasn't nor do I think I should press that. I put forward the idea that she should tell me her protection target so I can pass it on after she likely dies tonight. All for the good of the town so we can have a chance to determine if meanies have two kills or not.
 

Sorian

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It occurred to me that Faddy guessing the real doctor’s targets is very coincidental and that could mean that scum really did fail two kills and that’s why they knew exactly who to say the doctor protected. In frustration, they might have sacrificed Faddy to get the doctor counter claim so they could kill the doctor and actually start killing players at the tradeoff that Faddy would die and at least take someone along with him.

If you’re comfortable with it, I’d pass along that theory to her Kyan and recommend she self protect tonight if she wasn’t going to already, she probably can’t and she might dilvulge more in letting you know that she can’t.
 
Alright, that's good, since she will likely be dying tonight unless scum avoid her because they're scared of getting tracked or something. Their decisions have been weird, anyways.

And that's a pretty good theory, too. It seems they targeted me for something in N1, unless turmoil really came up with that out of nothing, so their gambit there might have been fueled by the same kind of emotion.

If there were 5 scum in total, and suppose that there's 1 neutral other than us, current numbers are:
  • 3 scum
  • 1 neutral
  • 3 cult
  • 13 town
I'm afraid that Fandorin actually is scum. And I'd naturally be gunning for Brazil now, too. Under normal circumstances, I'd be gunning for CeeCee as well because of how Faddy protected him so vehemently and how I was suspicious of Sophia/CeeCee from the start, but I might have to "forget" about him somewhat.

I guess I just feel more and more people are being seen as town, rightfully so, while the list of potential targets is dwindling.
 

Sorian

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One of us is going to die eventually and when we do, anyone who has been cleared is instantly suspect again.
 
My dream is for none of us to die. I guess we count as a "threat to Town," so we all need to die for Town to win? That makes things less worrisome.
 

Kyanrute

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It occurred to me that Faddy guessing the real doctor’s targets is very coincidental and that could mean that scum really did fail two kills and that’s why they knew exactly who to say the doctor protected. In frustration, they might have sacrificed Faddy to get the doctor counter claim so they could kill the doctor and actually start killing players at the tradeoff that Faddy would die and at least take someone along with him.

If you’re comfortable with it, I’d pass along that theory to her Kyan and recommend she self protect tonight if she wasn’t going to already, she probably can’t and she might dilvulge more in letting you know that she can’t.

That's what she is thinking already pretty much. I'll give her my suggestions for protection tomorrow. I think I'll drop a self-protection point there then.
 

Sorian

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My dream is for none of us to die. I guess we count as a "threat to Town," so we all need to die for Town to win? That makes things less worrisome.

I’d like to have one more in here before anyone dies at least but we’ll see especially with the whole cop check situation.

That's what she is thinking already pretty much. I'll give her my suggestions for protection tomorrow. I think I'll drop a self-protection point there then.

I would make sure to say “you should self-protect” as opposed to “can you self protect” just so it doesn’t sound like you are fishing.
 

The Bear

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Announcement:

Choosing The Price is Right modifier does not give you a recruitment shot.

Current shots: 0
 
Yo, that's a rip off.

It's going to have to be HvV next, then. That or somehow gunning for the unknown games, but not sure others would want to follow that one.
 

Sorian

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Not super shocked, I feel like HvV has to be next anyway, enough people have been clamoring for it. Monkey has kind of agreed to vote the same modifier I do because we’re both on the same page that clearly these modifiers don’t matter that much.
 

Kyanrute

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I wasn't able to get anything of note from Ketkat, she did not really overtly trust me. Might've been a slight hint there that she is unable to self-protect but that really could go either way.
 
Nothing from absolutbro in the end. I think he "trusted" me, but didn't respond to anything after the end of day craziness went down.
 

Sorian

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Nothin really new with Monkey, talked about reads all night. Either she’s town and trusts me a lot or is scum trying to pocket me. Both have the same positive result for me so I’ve stopped trying to figure it out and am just publicly all in on her being town.
 
Hm. Well, considering town needs to eliminate scum and cult, too many killing roles would probably not be right, and it'd explain the defense they had. I can believe that scum has a strongman (I think is the term for basically a protection bypass kill), but another role that can actively disperse of someone during the night along with their regular kill? I'd be inclined to say no.
 

Sorian

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I thought there would be SOMETHING but yeah, I don't expect anything that's every night. This is a slow game if only CeeCee's one shot and the mafia are the only killers. That and we don't even get a guaranteed recruitment at any point and are just at the whims of the modifiers. There has to be something else around.
 
lol, just being "cautious." But there aren't gonna be two bombs, and I do think the theory that some of the redacted considering the backup not being able to inherit the bomb holds some weight.
 
Fantomas is bringing up Power Rangers as his pick for the next modifier. Would you guys be okay with that? I don't want another night passing by without getting a recruitment option, but from what I understand, that game was basically as messed up or more so than HvV?

I'm going to take a proper look at the data sheet once ResetEra gets back online. You're saying that the only game in that list that had an actual cult was Cthulu, right?
 

Sorian

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No, power rangers was a very vanilla game, it was just a costume game. It won't have a shot.
 

Sorian

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And yes, Cthulhu was was the only one with a cult thats on that list,, I believe.
 
I should probably go quiet for a while, lest I really mess this up. The heat on me doesn't seem like it actually matters for now, and the heat on Sorian is just Brazil doing stuff. Kyan ain't a focus.

The cadence of this discussion feels bizarre, though. Like it's being steered.
 

Sorian

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I'm so annoyed that it's Brazil and Fandorin, we aren't supposed to lynch them this quickly but if they keep fucking up there's not much to do. Brazil could have just shut up for a day and let Fand get lynched and he'd at least have mild cover. I handed him the opportunity.

tenor.gif
 

Sorian

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I love that Kyan is nowhere near anything and pretty much everyone is sleeping on him, A+
 

Kyanrute

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i honestly don't get you all arguing endlessly, how can anyone keep up with this

i just look at few people and pick one that feels the scummiest
 
i honestly don't get you all arguing endlessly, how can anyone keep up with this

i just look at few people and pick one that feels the scummiest
Haha, I think that's analogous to my true motivations for wanting to see a flip asap, but that's mainly impatience.

The standby strategy becomes less effective as the numbers dwindle, though.
 

Kyanrute

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i have no idea what the fandoring argument is

or the brazil one

or the malus one

there is a case on sawneeks too right?

i have no reads on any one of them i think.

position seems good.
 

Sorian

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I don’t think anyone cares about Sawneeks, people keep kind of poking her way then dropping it. Once this mess is cleaned up, she’s likely everyone’s next big project, along with me depending on how this goes.

Someone has to be the arguer and I’d be doing this anyway if I was town so it works.
 

Sorian

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Gonna need to recruit Fantomas once we finally get a shot again.

He’s not likely a candidate that makes it close to end game. If scum self destructs some more, worrying about that won’t matter as much but for right now, I’d say there are probably better choices. Fantomas probably dies before Fran for example.
 
Yeah, that's true, as indisputably town, while some still have slight doubts about Fran that might start rising as the game progresses. But boy would I love to see that guaranteed town stuff come back around with a whole other tone. Maybe I'll be able to point to it once the fact that there's a cult unveils itself.

There should be at least 3 people dying before we get the chance to recruit, so it's premature to think about it too much now anyways.
 

Sorian

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Oh man, I hope Blarg did just call out the whole scum team. That would mean I'm wrong on both Brazil and Fando but it would be worth it.
 

Kyanrute

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19/2/6. D3 worst case scenario for town from what we know is 13/3/5. D4 10/4/5, D5 7/5/5, D6 4/6/5, D7 1/7/5 cult victory.

This is a really weird game. Day 15 here we go.
 

Sorian

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Maybe one of the modifiers makes us a super cult that lets us recruit 5 people each night.
 
Thread's basically imploding anyways, so it fits.

I have this fear that Pirate Bae would investigate one of us this night phase, and that it would work for whatever reason. She should either be role blocked again (if it's limitless) or just outright killed now that the doctor is out. If the cop action was somehow successful, she'd probably be investigating malus, Brazil, or someone else higher profile right now.

But that investigation on Sorian before was a close call. Just been thinking how I'd handle it if she straight up said I was a neutral tomorrow.
 
Perhaps. So it'd either be blatantly denying it like I did turmoil and calling for her lynch. The only result she's given is KetKat, after all, and she would know that she was town if she was scum. And properly calling out the alignment of one of the previously controversial targets would get her points. This one's playing on hard mode, though.

The other one would be accepting you've been found out, and come up with a benign neutral role. There haven't been other killers roaming around, after all. The neutral would be effectively harmless, solving their own separate win condition.
 

Kyanrute

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Really, since we are missing kills, one explanation for that could be neutrals that exit during the game. Dunno what it would be or what would it do, there is no crumbs of any mysterious night actions, so attaching oneself to anything is gonna be hard. Protection, maybe, but that too feels like a heck of a theoretical possibility.
 

Sorian

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Yeah I was already planning to just accept a check and claim benign neutral. There’s really no way around it unless you can somehow finger Bae as a liar which probably can’t happen at this point until one of us flips and the cult is known.
 

Sorian

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Now I’m worried Fandorin is town and Brazil is scum and this is all worthless.
 
Hitting scum is nice even for us, but whatever the case, our main goal is just to survive anyways. So it's kinda eh, and his flip will tell us something. But in the case where it's Fandorin town and Brazil scum, there'll be some complications and resistance when it comes to getting Brazil lynched.
 
Even if it's all just town fighting each other, then great. Whatever. Only worry is that there'll be some arbitrary push for Sorian soon, which could be fueled by Fandorin flipping town or Brazil flipping town. There were some rumblings of that earlier on by a handful of people.
 

Sorian

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I’m ready to be put in the ring tbh, I’ll come out stronger and full of bullshit. I even have a fake claim ready.
 

Sorian

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Don’t PM price is right guess right away, we should coordinate, be back in like a half hour
 
Oh right, I forgot about that. Do we even all have the same product, or is it different products but it's still the person who guesses the closest to it? Guess we'll find out in a bit.
 
Funny flip. I don't know what the hell Fandorin and Brazil were on, but this does make me think that Brazil might be town, as well...? Not even sure. If you're gonna talk about being anti-town, though, this is definitely it. Maybe Brazil was actually right when he said that his flip would tell us more than Fandorin's.
 
Hell, I don't know. This modifier...

Okay, so assigning a price to each lollipop. Maybe something like $0.20? So $24 for the lollipops?

For the bear itself, no idea. It seems pretty big. $70-80? So maybe approximately $100-110 in total?
 
This night's modifier vote is going to be messy. I think RNG or Conspiracy should give us a recruitment point, though, so there's that. But I'll stick with Heroes vs Villains until that's no longer realistic.
 

Sorian

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All I'm learning here is that is a very weirdly sized bear plush.
 

Sorian

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So the things of lollipops seems like it would fall somewhere between $10-$15

https://www.amazon.com/Dum-Pops-120-20oz-box/dp/B002NVTD6Q

https://www.spanglercandy.com/candy-store/swirl-saf-t-pops-assorted-120ct

https://www.cvs.com/shop/dum-dum-lollipops-assorted-box-120ct-prodid-799027?skuid=799027

I found these two for the bear which would put that price around 35-40

https://www.amazon.com/GUND-Maxie-T..._browse-bin:7800878011&s=Toys+&+Games&sr=1-16

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Joon-Big-Teddy-Bear-Pink/183919423

But my fiancee found one that's closer to $60, we just can't find the width and length, a lot of websites just list a height
 

Sorian

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So on the low end, $35.55 and on the high end $43.45 or on the very high end with that other bear, $59.25
 

Sorian

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Hey, @Grizzly your rules don't say it, but this is like real price is right? So it's closest without going over? Or are you just straight doing who is closest? Also what happens if people guess the same number by chance?
 

The Bear

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Hey, @Grizzly your rules don't say it, but this is like real price is right? So it's closest without going over? Or are you just straight doing who is closest? Also what happens if people guess the same number by chance?

Just closest. Doesn't matter if it goes over or under. If same people guess the same number and are both winning, the one who submitted first wins.
 
For a bundle and not counting each individually, $10-$15 for the lollipops sounds right.

For bears, I must say I was unfamiliar with prices for these. They're much cheaper than I expected. But I don't trust BearIndustries, they always rip me off.

Also what happens if people guess the same number by chance?
The one who submitted theirs first via PM wins. It was in the initial rules.
 
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