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Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Message to maol and turm (slight spoilers - alignment of one player):

Gorlak sends his appreciation for the genuine town moment at the end of D1. He's sorry he let you both die and he's going to do his best to avenge you.
 
I'm satisfied with how I played. I think I got a lot of decent interactions from the active players D1 and I played D2 as well as I could. I totally misunderstood that my role was completely replaced start of D2.

If scum somehow fucked with Monkey's result on me, they got lucky as shit. I tried to think of all the players who stood the most townie to me of the players who were active and a lot of my leanings on Fran boiled down to PoE. I can't see Monkey pulling a ridiculous gambit as scum. I can't see Fanto defending her as scum. Kits I think is telling the truth. Gorlak would have to be a big brained galaxy tier scum player considering that play during EoD on D1. Fandorin could be scum, but there's nothing super condemning about his play. Meatwad looks scummy af no matter which way you slice it and Fran's vote likewise on D1 looks like a nice bus. Fat4all just doesn't act scummy at all to me, he seems way too sincere and clueless, though maybe he's way better at the game than I give him credit for. And everyone else are basically lurkers and if all the scum are lurkers, that blows.

I think town is still in a good position, but tonight's actions are gonna be critical.
 
Message to maol and turm (slight spoilers - alignment of one player):

Gorlak sends his appreciation for the genuine town moment at the end of D1. He's sorry he let you both die and he's going to do his best to avenge you.
Aw, wasn't his fault. Monkey is gonna be feeling some heat for this one. I'm a bit sorry for her.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think no one can fault town for this mislunch tbf

But damn maol was looking so townie that if he had been scum I would not had cared if he won :thisisfine:
 
Welcome folks! Hope you had fun.

Just finished catching up, you sure like to talk. I actually agreed with Fran that Maol's role sounded a bit too annoying, so reading the flip was a bit of a surprise. And although it looks like mafia!Monkey could be distracting town with useless shenanigans, I can't see her making such a risky gambit either.

My two faves are out too, wondering if picking them jinxed their chances or something.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yeah all roles flipped so far are relatively weak and the interactions should give some clues, this night could be the turning point for a team
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I hope a vig takes care of monkey, regardless of her alignment

I don't look forward to another phase of people talking of how accurate is her role
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
VA had my favourite role in the game by the way

Who did you think the message was being sent to?
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We need :stan: emoji here

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Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
VA had my favourite role in the game by the way

Who did you think the message was being sent to?
My second night I wanted to send a message telling someone they had to reveal their role before EoD 3 or they would die. I just wanted to screw with people and see what happened
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
what

The way aeleus phrased it made me think VA was the one answering Monkey's phone call

So he can change people's PM and make it sound like if its an official game runner command?
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
what

The way aeleus phrased it made me think VA was the one answering Monkey's phone call

So he can change people's PM and make it sound like if its an official game runner command?
I could send a message overnight that went to a random player. That's all. My first night, I sent one that said "Don't Trust Vincent." No clue who got it.
 
So do we think monkey is town?

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If she isn't who are her scummates? Who is she protecting that's worth an insane gambit that has very little chance of taking her through the whole game? She has a weird defense of Meatwad D1 but surely he's not worth that sort of gambit considering his D2 play did nothing to help him.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Maybe she does it because she can get away with it

You softed a shitty role on d1, she picked you because you wouldn't be able to turn things around

And on d3 there would be lot of people willing to defend her because scum monkey would never do that

Her scumates are Fran and/or meatwad

Maybe an unreadable lurker or fandorin if one of them isn't
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
And she doesn't need to live the whole game

They need to last long enough for town to mislunch 4 or 5 times

Town just wasted a whole phase

So 2 or 3 mislunches left to catch 3 or 4 anti towns
 
Maybe she does it because she can get away with it

You softed a shitty role on d1, she picked you because you wouldn't be able to turn things around

And on d3 there would be lot of people willing to defend her because scum monkey would never do that

Her scumates are Fran and/or meatwad

Maybe an unreadable lurker or fandorin if one of them isn't
That'd be some amazing scum play if true.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I guess the kill will be a shadow lurker for no info or gorlak if they go for a town read
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Before I read a word in here, this was my pre-typed post for the day:

Town Zone
Monkey
Kits
Gorlak

Paranoia Zone
Fran

Null Zone
Zeke
Malus
Kopite

Scum Zone
Fandorin
Fat4All
Kalor
Meatwad



Unless we are somehow living in the absolutely batshit world where Monkey is Scum and is pulling all this stuff about her role out of her butt, she's Town, ok?

Now, let's proceed with things here.

Kits, yeah I buy the claim for now, not going to worry about her alignment too much.

Gorlak is actually so Townie it hurts, if I found out he was Scum in this game I would be fucking shocked lol.

I am paranoid about Fran. Mao was pushing Fran and Meatwad as possible Scum, and others have been looking at Fran for a while as well. I'm not sure if I'm ready to call him a Scum read yet though, to me I'm just seeing Fran being Fran still, but I'll be keeping a closer eye on him now.

Null Zone is Zeke (formerly Vincent), Malus, and Kopite. Not a whole lot of content to work with here, maybe slight leans towards Town, but I don't have a whole lot on these three. I'm guessing I'll get a better read on Zeke here soon enough now that he's around, having plenty of experience playing with him and seeing him as Scum from the birdseye view in my own game where he went completely undetected, but I am going to want to get some read lists from Malus and Kopite so I can better see how they are viewing things here.

Fandorin I just do not trust at this point. He really is giving me some bad vibes that are hard for me to explain properly, but it is reminding me of how he was in HvV2 where he was Scum, and I realize this is Meta talk, but that's just where my thoughts are anytime I read through his posts. It's like he's giving off a veneer of Towniness, if that makes sense, it feels like an illusion.

Fat4All, Kalor, and Meatwad are all just sitting in the Process of Elimination pool for me. When I remove everyone I feel better or at least Null about, I am left with them. It doesn't mean they are all Scum, but these are the leftover players who I have no place else to put but in the Scum Zone. I know some people have put town reads on Fat4All because of his reaction to Monkey's claim, but that doesn't mean shit to me personally, Scum needs to find things to talk about and that was something to talk about, was it not? Kalor is Kalor, but even by Kalor standards I feel like something is different about him in this game. Meatwad I explained yesterday.

Feel free to ask me any further questions about these reads and I will explain as best as I can. Weekend phase means you all get to have me in here posting like a madman until Monday, so I will be around plenty this phase.

For now:

Vote: Fandorin

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Unsure if "weird" is the word. I'd describe Vincent Alexander as being pretty cautious and curious through games, prodding and asking stuff most of the thread, and slipping from time to time with phrasing or stuff that gets him side-eyed. He's been around long enough for everyone to understand that's just how he behaves I guess?
This is the BEST way describe Vincent's play, curious to a fault lol. <3 Vincent
I want to believe both monkey and maol are town

Fuck me:thisisfine:
This was me at EoD, but there wasn't really anything to be done since we needed to rip that bandaid off early, especially when Mao himself was saying to kill him off for the good of Town.
Just wanted to share something fun but not game related. I was chatting a moment ago on my phone and went to refer to something as garbo (as in garbage). My phone autocorrected garbo to Fanto. I think this means Fanto must fight me to the death to defend his honor.
Lmao, my phone was just starting to learn all the Mafia names now too from all the mobile posting, it would even auto-capitalize Monkey for me lol.
My only lean at all before subbing out is that Monkey is scum, and only because that power is impossible for anyone to prove one way or the other. She is purposefully wasting town's time trying to come up with questions to use with the power, which distracts from actual scum hunting. If she is scum.That's my two cents.
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Dr. Monkey said:
Fanto is big mad in spec right now since it’s the weekend and he could actually play.
Absolutely cold-blooded Scum team out there lol.

And if you're a part of it, I SWEAR TO GOD MONKEY!!!

It's all good though, I can play some Civ 6 this weekend instead.

Oh, I should go sign up for the Mini too!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Not asking for spoilers (I haven't read any in here btw) but I am wondering why Scum decided to kill me tonight over some other players. I was thinking it would go to Gorlak or Monkey since they were both more universally town read than I was, though I suppose if they were worried about protection they may have gone for me instead, but they didn't seem to be worried about going for Ketkat on N1 even though everyone was calling her Town. Strong kill used on Ket perhaps?

I don't really see this one fitting together in my mind unless either Fran and Fandorin are both Scum, or one of them is Scum with a couple of the quieter players.

I still think Fandorin needs to be pressured, and Monkey outright saying she won't vote for him today would have made me eyeroll hard if I were still playing lol. She can't have that good of a read on him here yet, he's too sneaky, we need to apply pressure and observe him.

Then I would definitely be prying as many reads as I could out of Kalor, Meatwad, Malus, and Kopite while trying to get Fat4All to talk about anything other than Monkey and giving Zeke some homework to do.

In case anyone was wondering how I would try to get things more active in there lol. :P
 
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but no one should be satisfied with Fran's "welp, I was wrong twice, now I'm gonna shut up" entrance today.

People need to press him, and yeah Fando needs pressed. Don't know why Monkey is leaving players alone at this point. The lurkers also need some heavy pressing at this point. I hate scum wins that are the result of no one playing. As someone who prefers playing scum than town these days, it's so cheap and unearned.

Really interested in how Meatwad comes in today.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fran's reads there shaped up pretty similar to my own, so I hope he is Town lol. He's most suspicious of Kalor, Fat, Fando, and Meatwad. What's funny to me is that I was using player's initial reactions to Monkey's red check to determine my overall gut level reads rather than votes, but Fran used the votes and came to the same conclusions.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Not asking for spoilers (I haven't read any in here btw) but I am wondering why Scum decided to kill me tonight over some other players. I was thinking it would go to Gorlak or Monkey since they were both more universally town read than I was, though I suppose if they were worried about protection they may have gone for me instead, but they didn't seem to be worried about going for Ketkat on N1 even though everyone was calling her Town. Strong kill used on Ket perhaps?

I don't really see this one fitting together in my mind unless either Fran and Fandorin are both Scum, or one of them is Scum with a couple of the quieter players.

I still think Fandorin needs to be pressured, and Monkey outright saying she won't vote for him today would have made me eyeroll hard if I were still playing lol. She can't have that good of a read on him here yet, he's too sneaky, we need to apply pressure and observe him.

Then I would definitely be prying as many reads as I could out of Kalor, Meatwad, Malus, and Kopite while trying to get Fat4All to talk about anything other than Monkey and giving Zeke some homework to do.

In case anyone was wondering how I would try to get things more active in there lol. :P
Didn’t think you’d ever get voted out and didn’t think protection would be on you.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
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Malus and Kopite are probably Town, those reads seemed legit to me.

Kalor is probably Scum, seems too on-edge if that makes sense.

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Scum made a good call killing me if they wanted the game to get quiet, that's for sure. I would be posting so much right now lol.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
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Malus and Kopite are probably Town, those reads seemed legit to me.

Kalor is probably Scum, seems too on-edge if that makes sense.

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Scum made a good call killing me if they wanted the game to get quiet, that's for sure. I would be posting so much right now lol.
My spidey senses immediately tingled at Kalor and Meatwad today when catching up. Kalor because of that post to Zeke about why I lean scum on a re-read. What's interesting is I was accused of blending in, the only mention anyone has ever made of me blending in as far as I recall so far, then the VERY next page:

Real quick

EzekelRAGE, Vincent was very wishy-washy previously, like he just wanted to blend in.

I'm gonna go back a re-read a bunch of stuff when I get the time to make better reads, but this is what I'm feeling at the moment

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Town is all over the place and pursuing things that have nothing to do with scum hunting. Why are people still trying to analyze Monkey's role? Even if she's lying, there's not enough there to conclusively lunch her over it. And town has better, more conclusively scummy leads to follow.

Fran has essentially disappeared from the equation, Meatwad is obviously sheeping from other players posts, Kalor is having difficulty explaining himself. Ezekiel is straight up not reading anything. Focus on those things town, not Monkey's role specifics or Kits' theories on what a backpack is in the game for.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, as Mao said, there are some major leads they really need to be following up on here if they want to get anything done this phase, there are way too many players being let off the hook here.

Not enough votes down yet either, way too spread out with less than 24 hours to EoD. I'm predicting we'll get some action during the final 12 hours or so though, especially if they can get Scum up for the vote and they're teammates need to suddenly find other wagons.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Even though I do wish I was still in there to try to get things on track better, I am glad I was able to get night killed early with this role rather than it going to a stronger PR. As I alluded to above, I joked with Nat when he sent me this role because I've never been mislunched, so giving me a role that takes more people to vote me out just made me lol. :P

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Monkey's reads are... troublesome.

Why is Fandorin Town here? I had so many posts I was going to quote from him today to make my case against him. Does anyone in here have Fandorin as that high of a Town read that you would not consider voting him today if you were in the game and were Town? That seems ridiculous to me, this isn't D1, it's D3 with 0 Scum voted out and Fandorin has hardly been scrutinized at all, why would anyone just hand him a pass for today? Gorlak I understand, he's the Towniest person in the room, but Fandorin? What!?

I really don't think Monkey is Scum though, but I don't think she's Town either. I think she's a Neutral just trying to prolong the game until she can reach her win-con, that was my plan for HoH the only time I was a Neutral; not worry too much about my reads during the day or who got voted out, just worry about what I needed to do at night in order to win. In hindsight, Monkey seems to have a very similar vibe here in my opinion.

Kalor or Meatwad should be the vote today though tbh if I'm not there to make a case against Fandorin. It's really a toss-up between those two for me, wouldn't even be surprised if they're Scum together, have they even commented on each other yet?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fran is Town here, I swear to god lol.

If Fandorin is too, which I highly doubt, but if he is, then the world has to look like...

Kalor/Meatwad/Fat4All?

Is that the Scum team?

Kits is possibly just pulling some major Gambits here, but I really don't think she would just pull out a claim like that on D2 for fun as Scum, that's more of a Town move from her tbh. She'd ask other people to claim on D2 if she was Scum lol.

If it's not any of them, then someone in the Malus/Kopite/Zeke group is in there...

Kopite? Nah, I don't think he would draw this much attention to himself by going after Monkey, that's Town Kopite.

Malus?...Nah, he's just Town here, I still feel like those reads earlier were coming from a Town Malus.

Zeke? Vincent was being pretty normal Vincent, but I never got the chance to really give him one of these:

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So that's why he was still in the Null zone coming in to today, and Zeke hasn't done anything alignment indicative for him yet, need to see who he votes and why.

So yeah, my PoE is just Fandorin/Kalor/Meatwad/Fat4All still. Take that group out to lunch, most of them are Scum. Otherwise I'm dead wrong on Fran, but I'm pretty damn sure he's Town by now, his focus is in the right place.
 
Well, Fando gets my position at least. He looks a bit more townie to me as a result.

Color coded vote counts to help look back.


2 immediate thoughts I had:(i) 3 flipped townies (+ plus me and Gorlak) have voted for Meatwad at some point; and (ii) the Fran wagon on D1 is (very probably) pure with turmoil, Maol and Gorlak voting in quick sucession.


Looking back on vote history on point (ii): we had T5/Meat3/Maol2, Fantomas votes Maolfunction and makes it T5/Meat3/Maol3. Maol soon after votes for Meat and goes T5/Meat4/Maol3. Fran then switches his vote from Meatwad to Maol and makes it T5/Meat3/Maol4. Gorlak creates a 3 way tie voting off turmoil onto Meat with T4/Maol4/Meat4.


We get some dead air this point and after a bit turmoil, Maol and then Gorlak go for Fran, leaving things T4/Maol4/Fran3/Meat1.


I think I understand the link between Meat + Fran that Maol was talking about. We now know that we had 2 townies leading the lynch on D1, with Meat as the third option. Fran switching out to Maol removed some pressure from Meat and put solidified again Turmoil or Maol as the lynch - if Gorlak hadn't purposely voted to create a 3-way tie at least. I can see Fran's early pressure vote on Meat (that stayed until EoD) as a easy bus attempt on an inactive scummie.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ah good, thank you Monkey for going through and finding those connections between Kalor and Meatwad! Yep, those two are likely Scum together, vote one of them today please. But who is with them? Is it Fat4All or Fandorin? Side chance of Zeke or Kopite?

I feel like Town can pull this off if they don't get sidetracked with role claims and stuff, just keep looking at reactions, reads, and votes.

In other words, don't Maple Street it...
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
So, now that I'm in front of a computer....While I wish more people used their votes liberally, it's tough to do so in this community. Players here tie sooo much meaning behind your votes, even when nodding along their approval that votes need to be used more often. I've had 2 games in a row now where I've tossed votes out just to shake things up, and both times (much less so this time) I was jumped on for it. The last Heroes and Villains game, I put one down on someone to see how they would react, and it jumped me from 0 attention to the top of lunch lists for a day or two. And that vote? It made the person I voted for get realdefensive, which told me what I wanted to know. And they ended up being scum. So, I dunno. This place is still adapting to the idea of using votes liberally. I think most are in agreement that players shouldn't wait until EoD to put a vote down, and yet there are players that can't get out of the mindset that where votes are placed is the only way to find scum. At least, that's what it feels like.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, now that I'm in front of a computer....While I wish more people used their votes liberally, it's tough to do so in this community. Players here tie sooo much meaning behind your votes, even when nodding along their approval that votes need to be used more often. I've had 2 games in a row now where I've tossed votes out just to shake things up, and both times (much less so this time) I was jumped on for it. The last Heroes and Villains game, I put one down on someone to see how they would react, and it jumped me from 0 attention to the top of lunch lists for a day or two. And that vote? It made the person I voted for get realdefensive, which told me what I wanted to know. And they ended up being scum. So, I dunno. This place is still adapting to the idea of using votes liberally. I think most are in agreement that players shouldn't wait until EoD to put a vote down, and yet there are players that can't get out of the mindset that where votes are placed is the only way to find scum. At least, that's what it feels like.
I get what you're saying, but I think it also comes down to how one places a vote sometimes rather than just the act of placing one in general.

I don't get side-eyed for my votes very often because I usually make it quite clear why I made the vote. If someone wants to come and ask me why I voted for someone, I can explain to them exactly why I did it. It happened at the start of D2 in this game, where Mao and Gorlak asked why I voted for Mao on D1. I had my explanation, and no one followed up with me on it once I explained it fully. It was to get another viable wagon going and tie the second place choices towards EoD, with me at the time leaning more towards Mao being likely Scum. That seems to have come around now to be a useful move where the votes that shuffled around before/after that are being looked at more closely now later in the game knowing the alignments of some of the players who were voting/being voted for.

I've been over it plenty of times in the past, but I do think that when people aren't voting very often during a day phase, then when someone does suddenly vote it can and will stick out, so it's natural to get questioned about it if it isn't accompanied by a decently thought-out reason. However, if everyone is voting during the day phase, then the act of voting itself becomes more normalized and people will instead look for the votes that truly stick out, the people who seem uncomfortable with their votes or like they are searching for a place to put it rather than searching for a Scum player. At least that's my hypothesis based on games I've played where people were voting more often.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I don't even know what to think. The votes are all over the place. At this point though, I really wanna see a Monkey/Kalor/Meatwad flip. One of those 3 today. If anyone else, I will be a sad panda.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Same could be said for Vincent. In fact I went back and your predecessor in your role was all over the place and seemed like he wanted to be present and not noticed. Also Vincent wanted to find "safe" wagons. When he voted me D1 He admitted he had zero justification for it and then switched his vote to Turmoil when he recieved pushback on my vote.

Then he spent most of day 2 talking to Monkey about her role and meekly trying to push Fran and Mao before abandoning that line towards day end. Vincent spent the game trying to play it safe and made no bold moves or did anything that would get him noticed. Which reads as anti-town to me

So just putting that out there
I thought it was a bold claim going against the whole group in saying Mao wasn't scum, but WHATEVER! lol

Nat, would you do me the honors of spoiling me and telling me:
Who received/is receiving my messages?
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
ln case it isn't clear they don't know why they're receiving messages so you've completely mystified them with messages like "Don't trust Vincent" and "EzekelRAGE is very powerful". I told you it was my favourite role :P
I'm really bummed I couldn't stay in the game. I was going to code one of my messages to make whomever solved it feel smart, and that whatever was inside was truth. Also, is that really what Zeke sent them last night?!
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Yep, it really is lol Scum are wondering if Zeke is some sort of powerful PR
lol. That's good stuff. Are they considering Zeke at all? I'd love to see him survive today, then them waste a lunch on him at night since town can live without his role. If he manages to be bait and protect a powerful role...that'd be much needed for town right now
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
lol. That's good stuff. Are they considering Zeke at all? I'd love to see him survive today, then them waste a lunch on him at night since town can live without his role. If he manages to be bait and protect a powerful role...that'd be much needed for town right now
Not sure - I fear they're going to kill a role that town really needed to succeed to keep them in this.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Extension for the day should hopefully get more time to get votes down at least so that's good.

Monkey misremembering GoT, tsk tsk. She was the one with the bonus kill, they used it N1. Blarg was their roleblocker.
 
I'm honestly impressed that Monkey isn't receiving more pressure here. She's playing a great game and putting in a ton of work, but she did kind of give a red check that killed a town player. It feels like the kind of situation that scum could push for an easy train to develop
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Seems things have quieted down again now. I still think the connections between Kalor and Meatwad are too much to ignore for the day so I'm glad votes are going towards them. I saw Gorlak at least noticed that Fandorin is sliding along without much scrutiny, and Kalor gave another of his "no strong feelings" reads on him, which looks suspect to me.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Town almost needs to land on scum today. Scum could execute a specific gambit the next day that would make it very hard for them to survive otherwise.
 
This game is definitely unusually quiet, but I'm also used to my last games including a nightchat with Lokiduck and once Fantomas! I wonder if their plan was to slow things down by aiming for Fanto
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
How come no one wants to vote for Kalor? Votes on Monkey, Fran , and Zeke? What? I still want to see the vote be between Meatwad and Kalor for the day. Of course, if I was in there, Fandorin would at least be getting scrutinized along with them, but if I can't be there then I would prefer to see it between Meat and Kalor and observe how the votes settle when it gets closer to EoD.

Someone needs to pressure Fat4All for more thoughts on the game too, he's basically just talked about Monkey's role for 2 phases, and now he's just vaguely claiming a role of his own, which is not good enough for me.

If one of Kalor or Meatwad are not Scum, then I would look at Kopite next I guess out of the other relatively quiet players.

I still think Fandorin is most likely to be Scum out of the high post count players, so pair him with 2 of the lower post counts and that's the team as far as I can tell.

If Kits is Scum then she threw out her fake role claim for fun on D2, and it just so happened to match up perfectly flavor-wise with Gorlak's claim about getting the handprint on him, which Gorlak had not even alluded to prior to the Backpack claim, all he said before that was that he had been targeted by someone. So if there is someone putting handprints on people, and Kits is using a fake claim, then yeah that gives her a decent amount of cred with that fake claim where I would be surprised if she got voted out before LyLo. I still think Occam's Razor says she's just telling the truth about it though. Could she be a Neutral? Maybe, but I don't think she's Scum.

Gorlak is TOWN AS FUCK. Monkey is probably a Neutral. Fran is behaving pretty Townie today in my opinion. Malus is being very quiet, hmmm... Keep an eye on Malus maybe depending on future flips. Zeke, I need to see who he actually votes for still like I said before, he can have some perfectly good and very believable reads as Scum.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fat4All said:
in the video game the backpack doesn't have anything to do with the handprints being seeable

the backpack sees the BT's shadows, you can see the handprints just fine without it
Yes, but the backpack detects the things that leave the handprints behind, ergo Kits can detect whoever is handprinting people. At least, that's what makes the most sense to me flavor-wise, or at least, as much sense as can be made from Death Stranding lol.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I genuinely love people explaining my posts and vote patterns in the lens of how they think a player should act instead of in the lens of how I actually act. One of these games folks will figure out that my concern for appearance is non-existent.


Yeah, I think I found out about that during her Steven Universe game. Disgusting.
And she is allowed to be a moderator....This world makes no sense.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Wait, his clarification says it's not Weak?

Lame lol
Role spoilers (vaguely):

There's no weak modifiers in this entire game EXPLICITLY because you called me out on it lol

Ok. I can't take it anymore. Nat, will you please spoil me on scum? This is too stressful.
Hang in there! I'll start spoiling more next phase - especially if things look grim lol
 
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