Game Thread One Night Ultimate Werewolf XV

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It was a dark and stormy night at the little village of Mafieraburg. The sound of wind gusts and rain against the windows already made it hard to sleep, but for some, there was far more real cause for concern. An ancient evil had awoken that night, and they could feel it. Now they all dutifully exited their homes; tonight Mafieraburg was a stage, and they had a role to play. It would be an eventful morning.

Player list:

1. turmoil7 - GMT-3 - he/him
2. Apopheniac - EST - he/him
3. Lone_Prodigy - EST - he/him
4. TearablePuns - EST - he/him
5. Faddy - UTC+1 - he/him
6. Alexem - UTC+1 - he/him
7. Stuart444 - BST - he/him
8. Ynnek7 - EST - he/him
9. malus - UTC+2 - he/him
10. Funky Dude Sparks - CDT - he/him
11. Fran - GMT-3 - he/him
12. TheChuggernaut - CST - he/him

Night Start:
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Day Start:
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Final Vote Start:
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Game Setup Recap:
  1. Roles are shuffled and one is assigned to each player randomly.
  2. 3 roles will be unused and will be referred to as the center cards. Some roles can interact with these cards.
  3. During the night phase, players use their roles and they execute in the order specified below.
  4. Note that a player's final role and alignment can change during the night.

Rules:
  • All applicable MafiEra game rules apply to this game.
  • Votes can only be done at the end of the game and will happen privately, by sending me a PM on Outer Mafia with the command Vote: [Player Name].
  • A tie results in all players tied being lynched together.

Roles in play, in "wake up" order:

Werewolf Team:
  • Mystic Wolf - At the beginning of the night, the Mystic Wolf wakes up and learns who his partner is. Afterwards, the Mystic Wolf looks at a player's role.
  • Minion - The Minion learns who the Werewolves are. They won't learn who the Minion is. Though he is not a werewolf, the Minion is on the Werewolf team.
Village Team:
  • Mason (x2) - The Masons learn each other's identities.
  • Apprentice Seer - The Apprentice Seer looks at one of the roles in the center.
  • Paranormal Investigator - The P.I. looks at up to two other players' roles, one at a time. If the P.I. views a Werewolf or a Tanner, he will not view any more cards, and will become a Werewolf or a Tanner, respectively.
  • Robber - The Robber trades his role with another player, learns his new role and doesn't do anything else at night, even if the new role could still act.
  • Witch - The Witch may look at one of the roles in the center. If she chooses to do so, she must swap that role with any player's role.
  • Troublemaker - The Troublemaker swaps the roles of two other players without looking at them.
  • Drunk - The Drunk swaps his role for any role in the center without looking at it.
  • Insomniac - The Insomniac looks at her own role, to see if it has changed during the night.
  • Revealer - The Revealer learns any other player's role, and if it's not a Werewolf or a Tanner, it will be publicly revealed for the rest of the players.

These roles do not wake up at night:

Werewolf Team:
  • Dream Wolf - The Dream Wolf does not wake up with the other Werewolf and does not know who he is, but he will be known to the Mystic Wolf and the Minion when they wake up.
Village Team:
  • Villager - The Villager is an ordinary role and does not wake up at night.
Neutral:
  • Tanner - The Tanner does not wake up at night; see more below.

Win conditions:
  • Village - The Village wins if at least one Werewolf dies.
  • Werewolves - The Werewolves win if no Werewolves are killed, even if the Minion is killed.
  • Tanner - The Tanner wins if he dies. If the Tanner dies and no Werewolves are killed, the Werewolves do not win. If the Tanner dies and all Werewolves are in the center, the Village does not win.
 

Franconp

Frank
Hi everybody!

If this is your first ONUW: read the rules. This is not like regular mafia. It's more like a puzzle.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
I've tried to suss out the rules from watching a couple of the previous ONUW games, but I've never really got that far. I think this is one of those games where you have to be in it to really get it.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I’m just going to spend the whole game insisting that this is just a regular game of mafia while ignoring everyone trying to explain to me that it is a very big deal if we miskill on day one
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Hi everybody!

If this is your first ONUW: read the rules. This is not like regular mafia. It's more like a puzzle.

And after you read the rules, read them again.

Also @Fireblend in the last game some people failed to submit roles. IMO the mod should randomly use the role and send results, otherwise the game can break down.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Hi everyone, first ONUW here, I tried to follow previous ones but not being in the game the rules went way over my head.
 

Franconp

Frank
The most important thing about ONUW is that things will happen during the N0 and some of us won't start the game with the same role as the one we have now. So you could be wolf right now but be a villager when the game starts or be a villager now and end as a wolf. And the role that you have when the day ends is the one that counts.

Besides that the game is mostly based on claims and counterclaims and trying to follow the nigh moves.
 
And after you read the rules, read them again.

Also @Fireblend in the last game some people failed to submit roles. IMO the mod should randomly use the role and send results, otherwise the game can break down.
yeah, agreed. Players can't abstain from using their roles (or voting at the end of the game, for that matter). Otherwise both will be randomized.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Never played ONUW before, but I have read the rules twice now so I should be fine.
 
A lot of things can happen in one night. A practicing apprentice stumbling upon information they didn't intend, a drunk finding themselves falling into a new pattern, a disgraced investigator believing this is their lucky night after years of searching, an ancient evil awakening at the sight of a full moon. This is a night the likes of which the little village of Mafieraburg has never seen, and will by tomorrow wish it had stayed that way.

Night has started!
Be sure to submit your commands before time runs out or they will be randomized:

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Day Start:
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Yes, I randomized the roles I mention in the flavor bit from the full role list. They're not indicative of anything in this game.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
OK, if I'm reading this correctly, we have a Revealer in play after the cards have been re-arranged. If Fran held the Seer card at the start (instead of being put into his hand by a Troublemaker or Witch, or he was the Robber), he should know one of the cards that was in the middle at the start of play.

Does that sound about right?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Fran were you the Apprentice Seer at the start of the game?

If yes you should not reveal a role in the centre until you have to.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
OK, if I'm reading this correctly, we have a Revealer in play after the cards have been re-arranged. If Fran held the Seer card at the start (instead of being put into his hand by a Troublemaker or Witch, or he was the Robber), he should know one of the cards that was in the middle at the start of play.

Does that sound about right?

Howling.

You roll wolf?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Okay so. I was the robber and I robbed Fran and now I’m a drunk. Obviously some more nonsense went on there beside what I did
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Okay so. I was the robber and I robbed Fran and now I’m a drunk. Obviously some more nonsense went on there beside what I did

That works. Even after you rob Fran he still gets his action which means Apprentice Seer was in the middle.

Fran can confirm you as Drunk since he should know his first role.
 

Franconp

Frank
Okay so. I was the robber and I robbed Fran and now I’m a drunk. Obviously some more nonsense went on there beside what I did

I was indeed the drunk.

As I'm not a robber anymore it seems that the troublemaker exchanged me with the seer.

I will keep what card chuggs swapped to myself until I know what card the seer and the witch selected.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I was indeed the drunk.

As I'm not a robber anymore it seems that the troublemaker exchanged me with the seer.

I will keep what card chuggs swapped to myself until I know what card the seer and the witch selected.

Your action still goes through.

You took the Apprentice Seer card from the middle.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Dumb question incoming: “wake up” is order of night operations, first being mystic wolf and last being revealer, right?
As I understand it, yes - I believe everyone acts overnight according to their initially drawn card, then the cards change as the night goes on.

I'm off for a cuppa now, but I'll check up on things later before I turn in for the night. For now, let's start mapping what we know:

1: turmoil7
2: Apopheniac [Dr. Worm]
3: Lone_Prodigy
4: TearablePuns
5: Faddy
6: Alexem
7: Stuart444
8: ynnek7
9: malus
10: Funky Dude Sparks [Nomad Sparkster]
11: Fran - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Drunk / HELD CARD: Apprentice Seer
12: TheChuggernaut - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Robber / CLAIMED CURRENT CARD: Drunk

Known cards in play: Revealer

If I've made any mistakes so far, by all means keep this up to date.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
Drunk taking means Apprentice Seer from the center means there's two other cards in the center we don't know about. Seems likely we're dealing with four anti-towns, two of whom are lynchable.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
Yeah, I'm not sure why Fran would be the Tanner now either?

Also, Villager checking in. At least last I knew.
 

Franconp

Frank
Drunk taking means Apprentice Seer from the center means there's two other cards in the center we don't know about. Seems likely we're dealing with four anti-towns, two of whom are lynchable.

The witch may have seen another one of the middle cards.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
I don't think that I have anything meaningful to add at this point, so I'm going to call it a night and will go over things when I'm at the office tomorrow. Since there's some curiosity about LP then it might be interesting to hear from him, but it's still early days.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Ok since Alexem is gone to bed. I'm the trouble maker.

I switched Stuart and Alexem.
 

Franconp

Frank
1: turmoil7
2: Apopheniac [Dr. Worm]
3: Lone_Prodigy
4: TearablePuns
5: Faddy - Troublemaker: changed Alexem and Stuart
6: Alexem
7: Stuart444
8: ynnek7 - Villager
9: malus
10: Funky Dude Sparks [Nomad Sparkster]
11: Fran - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Drunk / HELD CARD: Apprentice Seer
12: TheChuggernaut - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Robber / CLAIMED CURRENT CARD: Drunk

If we believe Faddy Chuggs is also confirmed townie too.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
I rolled Village.

Just realized that our setup only has one Villager, otherwise this would have stood out more to me earlier. Are you saying Village as in Town?

(Always had multiple villagers when I've played IRL, so I missed this even after reading the rules twice, lol)
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
Just realized that our setup only has one Villager, otherwise this would have stood out more to me earlier. Are you saying Village as in Town?

(Always had multiple villagers when I've played IRL, so I missed this even after reading the rules twice, lol)
so uhhhhhhhhh

why'd you claim
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
1: turmoil7
2: Apopheniac [Dr. Worm]
3: Lone_Prodigy
4: TearablePuns
5: Faddy - Troublemaker: changed Alexem and Stuart
6: Alexem
7: Stuart444
8: ynnek7 - Villager
9: malus
10: Funky Dude Sparks [Nomad Sparkster]
11: Fran - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Drunk / HELD CARD: Apprentice Seer
12: TheChuggernaut - CLAIMED INITIAL CARD: Robber / CLAIMED CURRENT CARD: Drunk

If we believe Faddy Chuggs is also confirmed townie too.

Chuggs is town on your word. He said you were Drunk and you confirmed.

He could be the mystic wolf too though. He would know your role then see you confirmed as a different role. Although that is open to being counter claimed.
 

Franconp

Frank
Chuggs is town on your word. He said you were Drunk and you confirmed.

He could be the mystic wolf too though. He would know your role then see you confirmed as a different role. Although that is open to being counter claimed.

And I'm confirmed town by the gamerunner. Why would I lie?

He could be the mystic wolf but it's unlikely. If noone counterclaim he is the drunk now.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
And I'm confirmed town by the gamerunner. Why would I lie?

He could be the mystic wolf but it's unlikely. If noone counterclaim he is the drunk now.

You can lie for fun. No one can doubt you if you decide to admit a lie later.

I did it in the last ONUW game. I was almost 100% town confirmed but spun a huge web of lies so no one could out manouvre me.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
On my first read through of the thread, I thought I saw Alexem claim as a Villager.

I rolled Village.

Then later I saw Franconp say that we didn't have his claim.

We still don't know your claim. That is meaningful.

I thought Fran had just missed this post. It wasn't until I went back and looked at the set up that I realized I was the only Villager. This is why I went back to Alexem's post and realized he said Village (Town, I'm assuming), and not Village.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
are you saying you only claimed Villager because you thought you saw someone else claim Villager (and were not aware of the setup)?

I know you're familiar with standard mafia, which is why this doesn't make sense to me
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
reminder that out of 12 people, we may have 5 anti-town if two Wolves + Tanner + Minion are in play and PI turned
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
I claimed Villager because we need claims to solve the puzzle and that's what I am. You sounding so sure that I wasn't made me wonder if you had some information that you hadn't shared yet.

I thought that I may have caught a lie from Alexem with his post, but that's looking less likely since he probably just meant that he was Town.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
I claimed Villager because we need claims to solve the puzzle and that's what I am. You sounding so sure that I wasn't made me wonder if you had some information that you hadn't shared yet.

I thought that I may have caught a lie from Alexem with his post, but that's looking less likely since he probably just meant that he was Town.
if you thought there were multiple Villagers in play, what would be the utility to town of one of them claiming? a non-unique Villager claiming isn't worth much of anything, and you volunteered it in your first game post without even being asked.
 

Franconp

Frank
There aren't multiple villager. There are 15 roles (12 players plus the 3 cards in the middle).

If anyone claims villager either them ir ynnek are lying.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
Because there isn't really any point in not claiming right away? It's not like there's a night phase coming up where I want the werewolves to have to guess on who's best to kill like in a normal mafia game.

Me claiming puts another puzzle piece on the board so we can figure out what interactions happened during the night phase. Me claiming Villager is me saying that Villager was not one of the center roles.

I'm also not the only one who's claimed in their first post now, lol.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think we need some lies to catch people out.

Dear masons please make up some shit.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
Because there isn't really any point in not claiming right away? It's not like there's a night phase coming up where I want the werewolves to have to guess on who's best to kill like in a normal mafia game.
claiming Villager immediately means you don't intend to gambit later, which limits your ability to help town
Me claiming puts another puzzle piece on the board so we can figure out what interactions happened during the night phase. Me claiming Villager is me saying that Villager was not one of the center roles.
if you made the claim under the impression that your role was not unique, claiming Villager would not rule out another Villager in the center!
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
claiming Villager immediately means you don't intend to gambit later, which limits your ability to help town

if you made the claim under the impression that your role was not unique, claiming Villager would not rule out another Villager in the center!

Yes, when I stated my claim I was working under the assumption that there was another Villager due to my misreading the role list and my experience with past games.

That doesn't change the fact that claiming is the right move to make to help figure things out. If my misreading of things was correct, that would mean two Villagers were in play and not in the Center. My claiming at that point was still telling everyone one of the puzzle pieces.

I'm also not sure what kind of gambits I'm supposed to expect with a game like this that would help town?
 
Faddy - switched Stu and alexeem
Chuggernaut- Robbed Fran, became drunk, gave him robber.
Fran - got hexed, switched center3 tanner w/ robber --> Used drunk ability & swapped tanner for seer

very confident two of the three center cards are robber and tanner.
if we're to believe sparks' claim, mason could be the third card
 
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