Spectator Thread Free Parking
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CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
This is the rules variation where, being on free parking, we get all the money they lose, right?
So whoever loses, we win.
So whoever loses, we win.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Kyaaa is very very perceptive, he just unfortunately gets ignored for the way he talks sometimes.
It'll be interesting to see what cards come into play, there are some fun ones in that mix.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Some day, we may see the sight of Kyan and Blarg in a game together. And on that day, I want to be there.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Do power roles/scum target players or tokens?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Both and more!
They were in Buffy together.
Please do provide the meta spoilers :D Thank you!
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Ah, I was busy playing Sneakers when that was running - I'll have to give Buffy a read some time, then.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Ok here is all the tokens in they order they are rolling the dice with cards.
Purse - Kalor
Horse and Rider - Stuart444
Thimble - Fandorin
Battleship - Zippedpinhead
Penguin - Kyanrute
Rubber Duck - Apollo
Moneybag - Nin (chance Vote blocked)
Wheelbarrow - Grizzly
Cannon - Xbro (Chance Choose player to miss a turn)
Rocking Horse - Royal_Flush (chance Advance to Mayfair)
Boot - Geno
Train - Sexy Fish (cc Stasi; rolled 3 doubles)
Dog - DCPat
T-Rex - Sophia
Lantern - Empressdonna
Top Hat - SweetNicole
Cat - KetKat
Car - Brazil
Horse and Rider - Stuart444
Thimble - Fandorin
Battleship - Zippedpinhead
Penguin - Kyanrute
Rubber Duck - Apollo
Moneybag - Nin (chance Vote blocked)
Wheelbarrow - Grizzly
Cannon - Xbro (Chance Choose player to miss a turn)
Rocking Horse - Royal_Flush (chance Advance to Mayfair)
Boot - Geno
Train - Sexy Fish (cc Stasi; rolled 3 doubles)
Dog - DCPat
T-Rex - Sophia
Lantern - Empressdonna
Top Hat - SweetNicole
Cat - KetKat
Car - Brazil
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Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
They also played together in the Invitational. That is on here somewhere. With the added bonus that Blarg's death is funny and I am amazing as well.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I'm personally a fan of mechanics talk to put stuff out there I think will be true and gauge some reactions.
If he has a set at hand, that would be badass
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Everything is RNG'd via random.org.
On the game sheet I have 200 dice rolls pre-generated and will go down the list of alive players. For example the next roll is a 3-1 which will go to Kalor if he is alive. If he dies before the next day that will go to Stuart444.
For the cards I listed them 1-12 (idk if the order is exactly the same as in the pictures) then generated an order. I will do it again if the cards need to be shuffled.
Basically everything is done ahead of time so there is no temptation to "fix" things.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Okay this is delicious knowing what I know.
I think there’s a difference between speculation on mechanics you know or have reason to suspect exist vs. baseless speculation
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Early day 1 anything to get discussion going is fine, and then you can call out people later if all they've done is hide behind mechanics speculation.
What do you know? :D
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Natiko knows EVERYTHING! almost.
Oh, I thought he was just like guessing and having a lead or something. Lol
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Agreed. Much respect to any player that puts themselves out there in fun ways, even at the risk of getting lynched lol
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think as long as he continues to post people will not vote for him with other, easier targets out there.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I'm slightly disappointed with the participation levels but that was always likely with the player list with no immediately obvious high volume poster on there.
Still quiet days like this are interesting because with so few votes down the lynch could go anywhere.
Still quiet days like this are interesting because with so few votes down the lynch could go anywhere.
I felt the same way about Geno, I think Kyan's hypothesis hit too close home for him and he wants him out.
For now I lean scum on Sophia, Geno and Brazil.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
It seems interesting to me that people are willing to give KetKat a bye as a new player but are OK voicing their suspicions of Stuart. If anything, I'd say that Stuart's been the more involved of the two - I can't really recall a thing about KetKat, and that's a tad concerning. It could just be a new player acclimatising, or she could be flying low.
Hihi
I think Brazil is actually town this time. Really. I like Kyanrute's rp and I'm glad he doesn't seem to be down about people scumreading him for it.
I really don't love most of Stuart or Donna's posts but newbie pass I guess? No one has pushed on how they're making prod votes and then not really following up w/ thoughts after the person does come and talk. Is that normal? I don't actually know. Maybe irrelevant if the former behavior is normal though.
I think Brazil is actually town this time. Really. I like Kyanrute's rp and I'm glad he doesn't seem to be down about people scumreading him for it.
I really don't love most of Stuart or Donna's posts but newbie pass I guess? No one has pushed on how they're making prod votes and then not really following up w/ thoughts after the person does come and talk. Is that normal? I don't actually know. Maybe irrelevant if the former behavior is normal though.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Yeah, the prod vote then unvoting when the person talks seems like a fairly common thing. Feels pointless really.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I see unvoting as bad unless you have a good reason to do so. Either for needing to evaluate a claim or remove a potential turbo threat.
Just unvoting because someone speaks doesn't mean anything and unvoting shows you to be wavering and unproductive. Keeping prod votes until you a have another target can lead to some interesting interactions.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Has there ever been a time where scum has role fished on day 1?
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
It'd be a brave, brave move if they ever did. Mind you, you could probably pass it off as 'too daft to be worth trying' if you were to ever give it a try, so I suppose it's not infeasible.
cabot
Why.
you don't have a scum style. You would if you didnt suggest crazy theories.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
That is confirmation bias because I have never been scum.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Role could situationally have been very powerful, but could just as easily have been wasted anyway.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yeah it was very luck based, it could have been a gamechanger or a damp squib. It also has some negative utility in that it would force people to claim tokens which does not help town.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I’m not surprised by the result - just wasn’t ideal. Pretty quiet game overall though. Town is going to have to look past activity or they’ll ultimately be doomed.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
People claim not to like day 1, but it's still often one of the most active days.
There's some player's I'd expect to be higher activity than they have been so far though, and I guess there will be more and more mechanics shenanigans to drive discussion too.
There's some player's I'd expect to be higher activity than they have been so far though, and I guess there will be more and more mechanics shenanigans to drive discussion too.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Soft claiming in his position wouldn't have done anything to help. Full claim probably would have saved him.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
All commands are in provisionally. Town PRs just got wrecked.
An investigator with a check on mafia got blocked
A doctor with a guaranteed save missed by not being close enough to the victim
It didn't all go Mafia's way though. They killed the token they were investigating.
Definitely a good night phase mafia considering there was a good chance of day 2 starting with a red check and no night kill.
An investigator with a check on mafia got blocked
A doctor with a guaranteed save missed by not being close enough to the victim
It didn't all go Mafia's way though. They killed the token they were investigating.
Definitely a good night phase mafia considering there was a good chance of day 2 starting with a red check and no night kill.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yeah. I will confirm the Mafia target a player and not their token for their kill.
In other news there are masons and one of them just named two mafia as their top two scum. So that is something.
Oh Masons?... hmmm.. I admit that I didn't notice them so far, they are hiding it well.
I suppose so... It kind of shame though, a Loo is definitely an important PR to lose this early.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Considering what else mafia considered for actions this definitely could’ve gone a much different way lol
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Scum decided to hit outside the sexy fish vote. And in this game you were one of the more experienced players. They said you were "very smart" and a "pain in the butt to lynch"
And the doc didn't have to guess their save. They were 1 shot guarantee save and you happened to be 1 of 2 people who were outside their protective range. Basically the Chance Card killed you.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
This is a town disaster. No one is taking the lead. The pushes on Sexy Fish, Geno, Kyan and now Xbro are some of the laziest reads I have ever seen.
For all Geno and Kyan get pushed as scum for the way they have played neither have pushed back significantly or tried to press hard.
Town is really lacking a leader right now. I think if I was a mason I would be pushing for both of us to openly claim just to get discussion going and get a couple of confirmed town players in the game. (of course I would never be in this situation because I don't play passively)
For all Geno and Kyan get pushed as scum for the way they have played neither have pushed back significantly or tried to press hard.
Town is really lacking a leader right now. I think if I was a mason I would be pushing for both of us to openly claim just to get discussion going and get a couple of confirmed town players in the game. (of course I would never be in this situation because I don't play passively)
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I don't see anything really wrong about nin, geno or kyan. Probably leaning town on geno and kyan actually, and I'm surprised sweetnicole is pushing so hard on nin not voting when he did the same thing in hvv as town. Not actually so sure what to think of her but it's weird she's being townread a lot maybe?
I'm kinda surprised brazil gave stuart easy town points. Stuart's making poke votes w/ some vague questions but not giving a lot of original thoughts, it's not too different from his D1 play that gave brazil a gut scum read.
Dunno if the masons should claim, but the one with spot on scumreads should push. Be confident :D
I'm kinda surprised brazil gave stuart easy town points. Stuart's making poke votes w/ some vague questions but not giving a lot of original thoughts, it's not too different from his D1 play that gave brazil a gut scum read.
Dunno if the masons should claim, but the one with spot on scumreads should push. Be confident :D
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yeah I know that but the mason who gave the reads hasn't made a single push on either of their reads.
And really what is the utility against claiming? It is unlikely anyone tries to say it is two scum doing it. You get two confirmed town and try to shake the game up. At least a claim would give us some movement vs the stagnation we are seeing.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
The cop checks tokens not players and they just picked one they liked. They have no idea who they tried to check last night. And they can't make the same check tonight.
I mean, I'm not arguing with you. I think a mason claim would be an interesting shot right now, and though it would result in death, it would at least get some action going, though.
I think the problem is that the scum team is very carefully keeping things spread out, which leaves people like Geno doing dumb shit that gets attention on them for no reason and the game not moving. Like his Kyan business d1, that serves no pro-town purpose. It just creates a situation that will be easy for scum to exploit. At least SweetNicole, who is inclined to pull weird, self-defeating actions for her own entertainment (as best as I can figure) is instead trying to lay low. It may keep her alive but it won't move the game.
Oh, that's sad. I kinda wanna see the alternate timeline of this day where the cop trys to push for a mass claim or role fishes for the match, haha.
Also kinda funny that Stuart is getting heat about his voting style and Empress does the same thing like two posts later :')
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Ultimately you can’t lead or engage when a majority of the players are fine with taking a backseat. Just because you post and ask questions doesn’t mean you’ll get a timely response. That being said the scum team isn’t knocking it out of the park with their posts either. There’s plenty of time for them to fumble.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think one more active player would have really changed the dynamic of this game. Especially someone is comfortable manufacturing reads out of very little. But maybe town pull this out with a slow and sensible pace. Certainly less noise for mafia to hide in.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Quite a contrast in pace to Heroes vs Villains at least.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Is Stuart lying? Since the role cop was supposed to be blocked.
Scum or new town trying to cover up the role block because they think it makes them look bad?
Scum or new town trying to cover up the role block because they think it makes them look bad?
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
This is going to be a fun day end then.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Geno can probably survive this for a while as town or scum. Town will probably buy that scum wouldn't go 1v1 like that and accept the possibility of two investigative roles.
*Survive a lynch that is. Scum would have to kill him if he's town.
*Survive a lynch that is. Scum would have to kill him if he's town.