Scum Thread Bandora's Palace
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Skull
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It definitely is. Spent pretty much the whole day thinking about the game and got nothing out of it. We even almost got lynched. Wtf.
Oh, you definitely can. I said I wouldn't vote for you but did it because I had yellow as a town read for me. Pretty precarious situation I put myself in.
But it's ok, I think I can get some material on you if it becomes urgent. No one commented on it yet, but your vote for Red Ranger minutes before rac claimed is the scummiest. You come in last after the 3 other votes and you justify it a lot despite having said your piece about Red previously.
Skull
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I love how much we are winging this. Winning this game would be ridiculous.
*ahem*
Anyway, we need to discuss how we are dealing with Tommy. The ideal way would be to jail + kill themc guaranteeing the kill and not having to think about protections anymore. Fact is I don’t think we can, from what you said the jail also protects the target.
@Sawneeks @melonrabbit, can you confirm this for us?
If we can’t do that, I think we should block them and go for one of the confirmed players. That would reveal we have a roleblocker, but I don’t think that would hurt us much now.
We don’t know if Tommy can self protect, I think they can’t but if they can it’s in this phase they’ll do it. Even so I think we should block them to avoid another deathless night.
*ahem*
Anyway, we need to discuss how we are dealing with Tommy. The ideal way would be to jail + kill themc guaranteeing the kill and not having to think about protections anymore. Fact is I don’t think we can, from what you said the jail also protects the target.
@Sawneeks @melonrabbit, can you confirm this for us?
If we can’t do that, I think we should block them and go for one of the confirmed players. That would reveal we have a roleblocker, but I don’t think that would hurt us much now.
We don’t know if Tommy can self protect, I think they can’t but if they can it’s in this phase they’ll do it. Even so I think we should block them to avoid another deathless night.
Alpha 5
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I think the chance that Tommy can protect himself is fairly low. Most doctors I've seen couldn't. If you are nervous about it, I can Jail Tommy while you kill Green or Trini.
We should kill Tommy soon though. Alternatively, I can try killing Tommy while you try using your power. It is riskier, however.
We should kill Tommy soon though. Alternatively, I can try killing Tommy while you try using your power. It is riskier, however.
Skull
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I think the chance is low as well, if we can’t combo with your block especially, since that would mean even knowing who the doctor is, there is a chance we can’t kill him.
Normally docs that can defend themselves come with the limitation of not being able to protect the same target twice in a row. it’s not that uncommon.
Normally docs that can defend themselves come with the limitation of not being able to protect the same target twice in a row. it’s not that uncommon.
Skull
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How do you think tomorrow will go? I think you’ll be a contender for the lynch again, so that means I’ll need to reread the accusations made against you cause they seemed mostly bad logic and I skimmed through them lol.
If we can pick, I think we should leave the Yellow Ranger pile alive as best we can. If you end up flipping before me, town won’t look for me in your vote, especially not one so close.
If we can pick, I think we should leave the Yellow Ranger pile alive as best we can. If you end up flipping before me, town won’t look for me in your vote, especially not one so close.
Alpha 5
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Well, the Green Ranger, Kimberly, and Trini all voted for the Yellow Ranger. So did Rita, the Blue Ranger, and Tommy.
On the other hand, White Ranger, Bulk, Zack, and Billy votes for me.
Now, the problem is that all of the confirmed townies voted Yellow, while all of the people who voted for me are the unknowns who might be lynch material.
Trini might be a safe choice, because she flip-flopped on the vote. That might make it harder for anyone to learn anything definitive from it. As a confirmed townie, she would be a natural choice anyways.
Alternatively, we kill Tommy or Rita. However, I am loathe to kill Rita, because the uncertainties that surround her are potentially useful.
On the other hand, White Ranger, Bulk, Zack, and Billy votes for me.
Now, the problem is that all of the confirmed townies voted Yellow, while all of the people who voted for me are the unknowns who might be lynch material.
Trini might be a safe choice, because she flip-flopped on the vote. That might make it harder for anyone to learn anything definitive from it. As a confirmed townie, she would be a natural choice anyways.
Alternatively, we kill Tommy or Rita. However, I am loathe to kill Rita, because the uncertainties that surround her are potentially useful.
Alpha 5
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I will also certainly be up for a lynch again. If I survive tomorrow, I might be safe for a while. That could be a big "if" though.
I suggest you bus me, but we shouldn't be too obvious about it.
As far as Trini and Tommy, we could have a second gossip chat. Perhaps Billy had two shots of his gossip creation. That might explain why Tommy protected Trini. Alternatively, we could have lovers.
Thinking about it, either prospect makes Trini a more attractive target.
I suggest you bus me, but we shouldn't be too obvious about it.
As far as Trini and Tommy, we could have a second gossip chat. Perhaps Billy had two shots of his gossip creation. That might explain why Tommy protected Trini. Alternatively, we could have lovers.
Thinking about it, either prospect makes Trini a more attractive target.
Sawneeks
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When I realized I had to bus you there at the end and would be alone in here:
You'd always have Melon and I <3
silently watching from the corner as you spiral into madness.
I can't answer this directly, but Jailing does Roleblock and Protect a target.
Skull
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Skull
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My paranoia on Vig Green is still going though. We’ve seen town celebrity, 3-shot cop, doctor, a gossiper and maybe a BP giver. Gossip is the only one that could be kinda useful for us to copy, the rest is useless IF town doesn’t also have a killing role in their midst.
Maybe we blocked his shot on Trini or Pink Ranger, but I think it makes more sense for Green to be it, if there is one in the game.
Either way, don’t think we can do much about it now. That’s too much of a gut feeling to risk copying it now while you do the kill on Tommy. If he is, he’ll probably use his shot today too so I’d be unable to get it. Let’s just hope I’m crazy and he doesn’t use it on you.
Maybe we blocked his shot on Trini or Pink Ranger, but I think it makes more sense for Green to be it, if there is one in the game.
Either way, don’t think we can do much about it now. That’s too much of a gut feeling to risk copying it now while you do the kill on Tommy. If he is, he’ll probably use his shot today too so I’d be unable to get it. Let’s just hope I’m crazy and he doesn’t use it on you.
Skull
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Alpha, let’s discuss a bit on the kill. Yellow was after Rita and wanted her lynch at the end before having to vote for you for self preservation. Trini has been on Rita’s ass for quite some time now, it’s a pretty long tunnel actually.
What do you think? I don’t think we can push for Rita’s lynch, but having some vote spread can help us along the way. Would killing Trini bring more suspicions on Rita, or would be forgotten?
What do you think? I don’t think we can push for Rita’s lynch, but having some vote spread can help us along the way. Would killing Trini bring more suspicions on Rita, or would be forgotten?
Alpha 5
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Sorry, I missed your post this morning.
To be honest, I can never predict how town will react to anything. I still think offing Trini was the right move though.
I'm just disappointed that she was just another ordinary townie.
I think if Kimberly had another shot she would have cleared another townie yesterday, though. She must realize that she's on borrowed time.
To be honest, I can never predict how town will react to anything. I still think offing Trini was the right move though.
I'm just disappointed that she was just another ordinary townie.
I think if Kimberly had another shot she would have cleared another townie yesterday, though. She must realize that she's on borrowed time.
Alpha 5
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It is still a weak reason to vote you yet. You actually were late to the vote and had to rush your choice.
At least Billy was kind enough to fish out Tommy's limitations for us. Of course, what Tommy doesn't know is that he was roleblocked anyways, so it didn't matter who he protected.
At least Billy was kind enough to fish out Tommy's limitations for us. Of course, what Tommy doesn't know is that he was roleblocked anyways, so it didn't matter who he protected.
Skull
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If things get rough, I think it might be stupid gamble time. Better to go out in style that just lay down and wait for death.
Thinking of claiming my PR backup thingie, but with the + that scum have a role cop and have found that out. That’s why no other PRs have been killed, even the claimed ones.
Thinking of claiming my PR backup thingie, but with the + that scum have a role cop and have found that out. That’s why no other PRs have been killed, even the claimed ones.
Skull
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We still need 4 mislynches right? We are talking about Day 9 here. If you get lynched today, I’d need to go till Day 10.
Don’t think I’d go that far with ordinary mafia play there, I’m not that eloquent lol. Maybe with sole stupid sprinkled in, might be able to fool some more. I know Zack ain’t getting that though.
Don’t think I’d go that far with ordinary mafia play there, I’m not that eloquent lol. Maybe with sole stupid sprinkled in, might be able to fool some more. I know Zack ain’t getting that though.
Skull
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I take your rational posting style is to our advantage right now. Think you can pretend to take the high ground convincingly? Something like, you know going for you is a mislynch, but since town is in such an advantage that it wouldn’t hurt so much.
Important to point out that it was town/town yesterday so you didn’t see much vote movement.
Important to point out that it was town/town yesterday so you didn’t see much vote movement.
Skull
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Yeah it is. I’m still kinda lost on your push. I think your voting record is bad, but that’s it.
Skull
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I think now is a good moment for me to bus you. I don’t think we can lead a zack lynch today, so when he comes back the tide will probably change.
I’ll need to reread to actually get something to push... playing too passively right now, there are too few leads to go for it feels.
I’ll need to reread to actually get something to push... playing too passively right now, there are too few leads to go for it feels.
Alpha 5
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I think I'm dead to be honest. The one bright light so far is that no one else has jumped on the vote train.
Though I do wonder where Zack has been. He hasn't posted at all today other than at the start.
If I'm lucky, he has been busy rereading and second guessing himself again.
Though I do wonder where Zack has been. He hasn't posted at all today other than at the start.
If I'm lucky, he has been busy rereading and second guessing himself again.
Skull
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Hahah yeah, that didn’t happen. Sucks that they just defaulted on your lynch, no other leads were brought up and we couldn’t do much this phase.
In the end, we played too passively the whole game. Being scum is too hard lol, tried rereading looking for something to throw at others but couldn’t come up with anything.
In the end, we played too passively the whole game. Being scum is too hard lol, tried rereading looking for something to throw at others but couldn’t come up with anything.
Alpha 5
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Yeah I'm dead. I don't think there is a single thing I can say at this point to dissuade them.
I could claim, but odds are that would do nothing anyways. I probably could have counter claimed Tommy yesterday, but I think that would have backfired anyways.
Well, it was a decent run as first-time scum. My critical mistake was piggybacking on Zack's scum read of Zordon without making my own arguments. I was too transparent there.
I'm still not sure what is supposed to be scummy about my Goldar vote, I would have done the exact same as town. That's just my playstyle. It probably would have gotten me lynched even as town.
Anyways, sorry Zack! I actually just have a bad head for fine details and a poor memory, so I honestly forgot all that stuff you posted! Saying that in the main thread wiuld just get me scum-read faster, so I'll let you read it when the game is done. I'm not good at clever lies and manipulation.
I could claim, but odds are that would do nothing anyways. I probably could have counter claimed Tommy yesterday, but I think that would have backfired anyways.
Well, it was a decent run as first-time scum. My critical mistake was piggybacking on Zack's scum read of Zordon without making my own arguments. I was too transparent there.
I'm still not sure what is supposed to be scummy about my Goldar vote, I would have done the exact same as town. That's just my playstyle. It probably would have gotten me lynched even as town.
Anyways, sorry Zack! I actually just have a bad head for fine details and a poor memory, so I honestly forgot all that stuff you posted! Saying that in the main thread wiuld just get me scum-read faster, so I'll let you read it when the game is done. I'm not good at clever lies and manipulation.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Whatever happens, you've done great.
Don't be disheartened.
Don't be disheartened.
Alpha 5
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Thanks melon!
Alpha 5
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I'm not sure who you should copy. I guess it is too late to copy Billy and create a gossip chat. Though that could be a hilarious way to mess with people.
There probably was a vigilante, though I presume they wasted their shots at some point. Not much use now though.
And sure, I'll self hammer. Let me get caught up.
There probably was a vigilante, though I presume they wasted their shots at some point. Not much use now though.
And sure, I'll self hammer. Let me get caught up.
Skull
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Skull
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Let me plagiarize Sophy senpai and make this my diary, only without the funny parts since I suck.
Now that there is no voice of reason to dissuade me from doing stupid shit, it’s time to gambit a bit.
I’ll kill Zack. Not gonna lie, big part of why I’m doing that it’s because he’s probably Brazil. I bet he thinks I wouldn’t do it, but he deservers a NK, he has been too right this game, only right I give him something in return. It’s a big risk though. He pointed his finger pretty decisively at me, and him waking up dead will rightfully point town towards me. Town is pretty comfortable too, so they really shouldn’t think too much and just lynch me and be done with it (this is 100% why I’ll die).
The thing is, I can also use that to my advantage. If I wasn’t the last scum, I’d definitely kill Zack today to get town on Skull’s ass. It’s the easiest mislynch ever. Why wouldn’t everyone just pile on me and see what color I flip? Scum still needs 4 mislynches after all, so that’s a easy chip on the difference.
Well, I’m not that scummy after all. I did more bus votes over the game than real votes, D3 was the only day I DIDN’T bus someone. I pretty much bathed in the blood of my own team so far. I think I can pull some cover to me.
Finally, to add some more idiot, I’ll also fake claim PR backup and deduce that the last scum is a role cop that found me out. That’s why Tommy or Kimberley weren’t targeted after they claimed, since I’d earn their role either way. Scum didn’t go for me instead because we’ve had rac as a confimed town since D2, and then Trini, and then cop claim with 2 green checks...
I’m not sure whether I should reveal that I’d get 1 shot back even if the dead PR had none, but that could get me some retro points by how weirded out I was with Rita’s claim, since her having only one shot makes my weirdly too strong. That’s one of the reasons why I’ll copy her.
Anyways, that’s what I thinking. Town won’t have other leads just as they didn’t this phase, so I’ll need to do some work to pull this off, but let’s do it. Worst case scenario I’ll kill my brother, so that’s alright.
Now that there is no voice of reason to dissuade me from doing stupid shit, it’s time to gambit a bit.
I’ll kill Zack. Not gonna lie, big part of why I’m doing that it’s because he’s probably Brazil. I bet he thinks I wouldn’t do it, but he deservers a NK, he has been too right this game, only right I give him something in return. It’s a big risk though. He pointed his finger pretty decisively at me, and him waking up dead will rightfully point town towards me. Town is pretty comfortable too, so they really shouldn’t think too much and just lynch me and be done with it (this is 100% why I’ll die).
The thing is, I can also use that to my advantage. If I wasn’t the last scum, I’d definitely kill Zack today to get town on Skull’s ass. It’s the easiest mislynch ever. Why wouldn’t everyone just pile on me and see what color I flip? Scum still needs 4 mislynches after all, so that’s a easy chip on the difference.
Well, I’m not that scummy after all. I did more bus votes over the game than real votes, D3 was the only day I DIDN’T bus someone. I pretty much bathed in the blood of my own team so far. I think I can pull some cover to me.
Finally, to add some more idiot, I’ll also fake claim PR backup and deduce that the last scum is a role cop that found me out. That’s why Tommy or Kimberley weren’t targeted after they claimed, since I’d earn their role either way. Scum didn’t go for me instead because we’ve had rac as a confimed town since D2, and then Trini, and then cop claim with 2 green checks...
I’m not sure whether I should reveal that I’d get 1 shot back even if the dead PR had none, but that could get me some retro points by how weirded out I was with Rita’s claim, since her having only one shot makes my weirdly too strong. That’s one of the reasons why I’ll copy her.
Anyways, that’s what I thinking. Town won’t have other leads just as they didn’t this phase, so I’ll need to do some work to pull this off, but let’s do it. Worst case scenario I’ll kill my brother, so that’s alright.
Skull
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melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Updated.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'm here for you, buddy.
Smoke 'em.
Smoke 'em.
Skull
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I suck at gambiting hahah.
People got way more hang up over my fake claim than I expected. Thought Zack getting NK'd would be the main issue, not the claim. Maybe if I had just defused Rita instead of claiming I would've gotten another day in, but at least I had some stupid fun while at it. Don't think I'd get 4 more days either way, can't even come up with a push on those players despite rereading the thread ad nauseam.
People got way more hang up over my fake claim than I expected. Thought Zack getting NK'd would be the main issue, not the claim. Maybe if I had just defused Rita instead of claiming I would've gotten another day in, but at least I had some stupid fun while at it. Don't think I'd get 4 more days either way, can't even come up with a push on those players despite rereading the thread ad nauseam.
Skull
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Maybe Blue will take the bait there and say something about the killed players.
I think Rita will double down for a bit and then back down... she had the tendency to second guess herself despite being completely right along the game. Albeit I think she got more confidence now so she'll probably end up voting for me.
I don't have much to push for White or w/e, so they'll default on my lynch like they did with Alpha's, which is completely right since town is so conformable right now.
I think Rita will double down for a bit and then back down... she had the tendency to second guess herself despite being completely right along the game. Albeit I think she got more confidence now so she'll probably end up voting for me.
I don't have much to push for White or w/e, so they'll default on my lynch like they did with Alpha's, which is completely right since town is so conformable right now.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
It's your day. I'm ready regardless.
GET OUT OF MY PALACE YOU FOOLS
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This thread is 10/10Maybe, could be. But uh
(sorry, Brazil)
has he ever been that right?
I was actually feeling bad about you losing
love you, buddy
cabot
Why.
post of the game.
the most delicious irony