Scum Thread Army of The Blargonauts - Scum Chat

[Natiko]

I don’t even understand part of your statement. I need to finish this stupid vote thing and then actually catch up I’m like three pages behind.

 

[heymonkey]

Febe claimed neutral.

 

[Natiko]

Febe claimed neutral.

Why can't some of these neutrals do a better job of thinning the herd for us.

 

[heymonkey]

Not sure where to vote now.

 

[Natiko]

Blarg just left us his manifesto. I love him when I don’t have to puzzle out his alignment. Also, he always has me dead to rights as scum. He’s the only player that really pegged me as scum in DR3 early on.

 

[Natiko]

I hope Fire is a secret pineapple pizza arsonist and like four people die tomorrow via choking on pineapples.

 

[heymonkey]

I don't, 'cause I'd probably be one of them XD

 

[Natiko]

Hmm, maybe. I would bet he would have picked more middle of the pack people than you though. I don't think it's likely regardless, just would be nice to have some extra deaths for once.

 

[Natiko]

God this phase is dragging. I just want to move on and get to tomorrow. Literally no matter what happens today I'm going to have to desperately fight tomorrow to not be lynched. Might as well get a move on with it.

 

[Natiko]

I wish Sorian had left the game. He's just going to be a pain eventually, and I doubt you'll get a chance to lynch him before I die.

 

[heymonkey]

I feel like town me would vote LP here but I don't know if I should because a lot of votes right now are uncertain and I worry everyone would flood onto that.

 

[Natiko]

Ehh, I doubt it would gain THAT much traction (plus I would move to Malus if need be). Up to you if you want to take the heat from jumping to the sidelines.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

This is why I coast.

 

[Natiko]

I think you'll be okay today at least.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Low activity malus is going to die and low activity Fire can win tomorrow. Gotta do something to get above it.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

As town shrinks I can't look too passive otherwise I stick out.

 

[Natiko]

Spoken like a master of coasting. Monkey is going to have to hope traction gains for a Sorian lynch following my death to try and delay the game a bit for you two.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Zeke, rac, Blarg, Kyan...those are all varying degrees of low impact and mislynch possible. And if we ever get there, Flux will eventually have to be dealt with.

Also if town towns it up Sorian may side with scum to finish it quicker.

Long way to go but let's take it a day at a time.

 

[Natiko]

Tomorrow’s gonna be a fun day of trying to not get lynched after malus flips town and I have to try and justify my reads changing because Saw-Monkey-LP doesn’t make sense as a scum team.

 

[heymonkey]

can we kill Brazil and keep Fanto?
it would drive everyone mad

 

[heymonkey]

y'all i am Le Tired and Le Stressed so I'm gonna have a break before talking any strategy

 

[Natiko]

can we kill Brazil and keep Fanto?
it would drive everyone mad

As funny as it would be, we need every possible mislynch in play that we can.

 

[heymonkey]

uh oh

 

[heymonkey]

As funny as it would be, we need every possible mislynch in play that we can.

Yeah, except Brazil can probably rally the troops against one of us better than Fanto, confirmed town or not.

what's happening in the thread.

 

[Natiko]

Welp I am 1000000% dead tomorrow.

 

[Natiko]

Prepare your buses. Get em revved up and ready to run me over. Vroom vroom

 

[Natiko]

Wonder if that was an effect from the day or the PIR reward?

 

[Natiko]

The fuck there’s a cult???? MAYBE THIS PLOT TWIST CAN LET ME ARGUE FOR MY LIFE?!?!

 

[Natiko]

Are one of you cult members?


You have to tell me if you’re a cult member.

 

[heymonkey]

WHAT A TWIST

 

[heymonkey]

I AM NOT

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I blame Sorian.

 

[Natiko]

I’ll never forgive you if you’re an evil culty.

That being said we were all for the Saw lynch and the cult usuallllly cannot convert scum I think, maybe?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Yo this is like one of those TV shows where everything is hunky dory and then someone dies out of nowhere.

 

[heymonkey]

well i'm not voting for pizza

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Definitely not voting for pineapple.

If the cult can recruit every night they must be big. They probably can only hit vanilla as a neutral cult member would escape AB's notice. We might have blocked them once before as well.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

If the PiR item was the extra kill then a cult member must have it.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

This could actually be good for us as now we can go after the neutrals.

 

[heymonkey]

I don't think the neutrals killed malus. with four minutes left that always kills sneeks

 

[heymonkey]

I've never played in a game with a cult before. I don't know how it works tbh.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Any town member would shoot malus earlier in the day so we can lunch someone else, unless they firmly believed that both were scum.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Cult leaders recruit and win when everyone is a cultist. Or majority.

 

[heymonkey]

Cult leaders recruit and win when everyone is a cultist. Or majority.

Okay. So yeah, I'm not sure why cult would do it then if she was a cultist.

Sorian and Febe are cultists, yes? Who else?

 

[The Bear]

welcome to mafiera mafia by bearindustries inc

 

[Natiko]

Yeah, agreed on not voting PPM. It seemed like Saw’s entire role PM was made invalid after the recruit so that’s something to keep in mind, though maybe it was just for effect. Makes me think it may be possible for them to recruit a PR though.

 

[heymonkey]

NO ONE EXPECTED THIS, BEAR
NO ONE

 

[Natiko]

welcome to mafiera mafia by bearindustries inc

Bear you’ve just been sitting in the shadows laughing at my clueless complaints about balance haven’t you.

 

[The Bear]

Bear you’ve just been sitting in the shadows laughing at my clueless complaints about balance haven’t you.

maybe

 

[heymonkey]

So, twist: I now definitely say we do not kill Fanto, because I bet they did not convert him.

 

[heymonkey]

also i still wonder what else happened during star wars.

 

[heymonkey]

so i wonder if they are the pineapple pizza mafia or if it was a ploy

 

[Natiko]

So, twist: I now definitely say we do not kill Fanto, because I bet they did not convert him.

Depends on how their convert works and if they have a max or if it’s restricted by some other factor. I don’t know that we need to shoot to remove the cult when we can probably lynch to remove some cult with the help of town. If we get through tonight and tomorrow without hitting one then we definitely would need to shoot for cult.

also i still wonder what else happened during star wars.

It’s possible the day vig was it, though I’m more inclined to guess that was the PiR reward. It may be that town have a couple additional roles afoot tonight.

 

[heymonkey]

Depends on how their convert works and if they have a max or if it’s restricted by some other factor. I don’t know that we need to shoot to remove the cult when we can probably lynch to remove some cult with the help of town. If we get through tonight and tomorrow without hitting one then we definitely would need to shoot for cult.

Yes, but if we shoot outside Fanto, we might hit town/we might hit cult, we don't know, but we DO keep at least one town in the mix to help lynch cult. Then we kill Fanto tomorrow.

BUT I again do not know much about cults so I dunno.

 

[Natiko]

As for who else is cult - the Saw target may give us a hint, especially if Fire is too. That would lean it towards them choosing agreeable, generally townread players. Thinking kyan, outside chance of Brazil if he lied about his PR.

 

[Natiko]

Yes, but if we shoot outside Fanto, we might hit town/we might hit cult, we don't know, but we DO keep at least one town in the mix to help lynch cult. Then we kill Fanto tomorrow.

BUT I again do not know much about cults so I dunno.

I’ll try and look up some cult info. What games have had one? I can only recall Console Wars.

Side note: We are seriously in trouble if we have to start claiming. None of us have an actual PR that we can claim, if we claim vanilla we’re at the mercy of the thread believing we aren’t cult. It’s not great.

 

[heymonkey]

I'm gonna look back at Febe and Sorian and see what they've said the last couple days

also problem: remember I did claim vanilla to Sorian. odds they try to recruit me?

 

[heymonkey]

i think we RB one of them at the very least. question is which one?

 

[Natiko]

I'm gonna look back at Febe and Sorian and see what they've said the last couple days

also problem: remember I did claim vanilla to Sorian. odds they try to recruit me?

Oh yeah, that’s gonna be a rough one for you. Damn.

Re: Roleblock - one of Fire/Sorian you mean?

 

[heymonkey]

Yeah.

 

[Natiko]

Fire I would think. I suspect Sorian is not cult, unless we think the two meme boats were just weird RNG and Sorian climbed to that for a fake claim.

 

[Natiko]

Console Wars - Only vanilla town is recruitable and you can’t have more than four cult members total dead or alive including the original.

 

[Natiko]

Bloodborne had a whole cult team?? Not a good comparison I don’t think. Also never having heard anything about that game it sounds fucked.

 

[Natiko]

Call of Cthulu had a two person cult that could only recruit three specific people for a max of five. Those three were specific vanilla town roles.

 

[Natiko]

Side note: Really think NX will involve post restrictions - even has a neutral post restrictor. Paranoia makes me wonder if Brazil and Sorian are cult and that’s why Sorian tried to hand wave away the idea of that modifier being able to help Brazil verify his “PR”

 

[Natiko]

Those are all I could find at least.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Just realized that the double death is a great frame job by whoever did it. Scum knew both were town. Anyone who made that second wagon would be very suspicious.

Even a neutral cult might have made the sacrifice of Saw.

Then again maybe everyone thought day would be extended.

 

[heymonkey]

LP ARE YOU CONVERTED

 

[heymonkey]

Oh, y'all both have roles, so if it's vanilla, you wouldn't be.

ugh though now I'm super paranoid.

 

[Natiko]

I kind of want Brazil’s flip. Really hope the next modifier has a post restriction. If he can’t do it then I’m guessing he’s cult - would love to see if he started with a PR or lied. Would go a long way towards easing my concerns.

 

[Natiko]

Also part of me thinks still that due to Saw’s role being entirely strikes out if we COULD be recruited we would lose our current PR and alignment and be removed from this chat.

 

[heymonkey]

Do you think she got a new role? If so, why wasn't it in the flip?

 

[heymonkey]

I bet they got Blarg. No one was lynching Blarg.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

For a game with Blargs, it makes sense to have a cult.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Nat could spin something about knowing Saw was cult which is why he was tunneling. But that would mean... Alignment cop?

 

[heymonkey]

I think Natiko will be fine. I think we will all be lynching cultists tomorrow. Febe is obviously cult, at least.

 

[heymonkey]

(Probably Sorian, too, but also lol at how he went ahead and voted pizza?)

 

[Natiko]

Do you think she got a new role? If so, why wasn't it in the flip?

I would assume she got a generic cult member role, not one that had any special abilities beyond maybe speaking with the other cultists. As for why it didn’t flip, that I don’t know.

I bet they got Blarg. No one was lynching Blarg.

I could see that - good luck making the argument though. It’s hard to use logic against his flurry of nonsense lol

Nat could spin something about knowing Saw was cult which is why he was tunneling. But that would mean... Alignment cop?

Maybe, but then the questions would follow of what other checks, why didn’t I check my other scumreads, etc etc etc so I’d rather not go that route unless people focus in on me tomorrow but I’m hopeful with the cult flip I can avoid that. Hopefully.

 

[Natiko]

I wonder if a neutral survivor can even win with a cult.

 

[heymonkey]

I wonder if he even WAS a neutral survivor, though.

 

[Natiko]

Oh I agree, though I’m not completely sold on him being cult since we did get those two meme boats. Just may help as an argument for lynching him if we can dispel the claim logically.

 

[Natiko]

I just plan on trying to not seem too cult thirsty because eventually town is going to come for us and the cult is also going to be out there pushing to find us since we’re their biggest threat (especially if they can’t convert non-vanilla town).

I wonder what Fanto’s angle will be tomorrow if he lives? I could come around on skipping his kill for now, but he’s vocal and sharp so it could super backfire on us lol

 

[heymonkey]

It could, but there are still three of us and honestly I think tomorrow is Cult Day. I think he can survive one more. The question is who would we kill instead? I'm for Brazil, obviously, but is there someone better?

Should I block Febe?

 

[Natiko]

Rac our here voting PPM too. Curious.

The one thing I’m adamant about is we have to kill someone that we do not think we can get lynched in the next 3-4 phases. If they may be cult? Great. If we think they might zero in on us? Great.

I don’t see a lynch happening for Fanto, Zeke, Flux, kyan, or CeeCee. Could see Zeke or kyan as cult maybe. Fanto and Flux could be pains for us as well. I’d kill in that group of four.

 

[Natiko]

I could see Brazil being lynched though I do think he both could be cult and also will likely be a pain in our ass so I could be persuaded for him too I suppose.

 

[Natiko]

Unless we think Sorian is super lying then yeah I’d block Fire.

 

[heymonkey]

I actually don't see Brazil being lynched, not with the cult on the horizon, though with Sneeks flipping previously town, maybe. I just mostly think Brazil is loud and focused. CeeCee is barely playing. I wouldn't kill there, not now. Flux I could see killing.

rac - I wonder if he's converted or just not paying attention. What if the whole cult wins if they get PP as a modifier? And they need a majority for that?

 

[heymonkey]

BLOCK: Fireblend

can change it later if we need to

 

[heymonkey]

SCREEEECH
it's Sorian. He's big lying. He's the cult leader. That's why he wanted AbBro to claim all his results even though it outed him. He wanted to find living vanillas.

 

[heymonkey]

It's also why he never got near the Sawneeks vote and why he ended up pushing Brazil over Fandorin, too, I bet.

 

[heymonkey]

BLOCK: Sorian

 

[The Bear]

General reminder about all night actions etc.

 

[heymonkey]

Brazil will help lynch Sorian. I have no idea how Fanto will react to all this. But Fanto was on the vote for Sawneeks and Brazil ended on LP so I think we can turn the conversation to the neutrals and use that to pick off the last remaining louder voices. But probably with either we are safe.

My preference would be kill Brazil, then Fanto. Probably we are okay with either. But Sorian will come hard at me today, I think - he started to a little yesterday - and Fanto is firmly on my side. Even voting with me. I think we have a safer day if we keep Fanto alive, for me and for LP.

 

[Natiko]

Hmm, okay. I'll go with it. My main concern is if we don't pick off cult tonight or tomorrow that we'll need to aim for a cult kill the next night. It'll potentially be awhile before we get to off Fanto.

KILL: Brazil

 

[Natiko]

There is poetic justice if NX wins and Brazil is killed and it turns out to be a post restriction modifier.

 

[Natiko]

Unless he doesn't actually have said role in which case we fucked up.

 

[The Bear]

Commands acknowledged

 

[heymonkey]

Hmm, okay. I'll go with it. My main concern is if we don't pick off cult tonight or tomorrow that we'll need to aim for a cult kill the next night. It'll potentially be awhile before we get to off Fanto.

Do you really think we won't lynch cult today? I'm totally fine with the poetic justice of nightkilling Sorian tho.

We'll see what LP says. We have hours yet.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Sorian probably knows that Monkey is scum. He would've tried to convert her after she claimed vanilla. So he may use that to bargain with.

 

[heymonkey]

He may not know I'm scum, but he'll suspect. He'll certainly know I lied to him.

 

[heymonkey]

I'm thinking if pressed, I might claim two shot tracker. I had a post early in the game where I talked about tracker being a difficult role that often doesn't do much.