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Sorian

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That said though, lol at anyone even entertaining the idea that CeeCee wasn’t town. Come on Blarg pls
 
I’ve been talking to bear behind the scenes and it’s town who was underpowered for sure. Scum team is too big (by one player) and cult literally only fails if one of the original two is killed very early game. It’s very rare this game is ever in a state where town can win, it’s almost always scum v cult. *queue us getting to the true ending timeline where scum now fumbles everything, my cult goes left field and fucks up our recruitments and Blarg stumbles across the finish line as town golden boy*
To be fair I'm not the best at balancing, although I agree that scum probably had a member too much.
 

Sorian

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Well first step in fumbling is pushing a Fireblend lynch so onwards and upwards to the true timeline I guess.

I want to congratulate you early Blarg, I don’t know how you pulled this out for town but you’re one in a million, never change.
 

cabot

Why.
How can you argue for febes lynch at this point?

He was the one that revealed the cult with his actions. It wouldn't have happened otherwise
 

cabot

Why.
Lies, I helped town in NX, they fumbled hard at the end and I took the first hammer opportunity I got, scum could have just as easily lost there (though if they had, I would have too since the last scum was a bomb)

Never heard of that game.
 

Sorian

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Oh, also ps everyone, why in the world would you let me get away with such a creatively bankrupt role claim? You all realize I pretty much copied the neutral role that I put into my overwatch game right? Lol I’m amazed not a single person remembered/bothered to call it out.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
remember this

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edit: I BELIEVE IN YOU, RAC
 
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If they lynch either the remaining cult members or scum (as in, for both lynches) town is in with a shot yeah?

This is going to be interesting.

Also Febe deserves his pizza.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
If they don't lynch scum today, fireblend leaves the game with scum votes + night kill scum wins
 

Sorian

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My lies are so good that they work from beyond the grave. I know my ego is big but I deserve it sometimes.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
natiko was so against shooting sorian it wouldn't surprise me if he was recruited :eyes:
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yes, remaining scum and roles:

LP 1 shot bulletproof
Monkey roleblocker
Natiko 1 shot strongman
 

Sorian

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Fireblend said:
Also, I was right to hate yesterday's line of discussion on what Bear supposedly told Sorian through PM. Making up fake convos with the gamerunner is not ok, get out of here with those tactics, ugh.

I mean, that’s perfectly viable within the rules. You can lie about any game related content, says so right at the start of the game. Wasn’t a fake conversation either, Grizzly absolutely told me that the cult couldn’t recruit any theoretical other neutrals. :D
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
A 5 members scum team would need 8 mislynches before lylo without extra kills, and it would be fucked by vigilantes/overrides if hit

Without extra powers it would feel very unfair

A team wide 1 shot bulletproof (like scum in berserk), a full rolecop or tracker(as a counter to cult too) and an additional scum kill could make it work, probably
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yeah still shocked by 6 mafia and i can’t write games at all lol.

6 mafia is still less than 25% of the player base. And our mislynch options are cut down by masons and to some extent cult.

We had 1 additional kill, town had 1 and 1 was up for grabs And none of the modifiers are really helping mafia either. One outright stops us making a night kill and today's one gives town a double lynch. And from a mafia perspective we need 7 mislynches to hit parity which is right around the correct number for 6 mafia.

Cult complicates matters. There are a lot of anti-town players but if you reduce scum by 1 then we probably need 2 additional kills to make up for it. Balancing for cults is pretty tricky.
 

Sorian

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One of the modifiers stops you from killing? Did I miss which that was?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Oh interesting, HvV turns off all PRs except for your kill though so that’s the balance there.

Maybe? But that also disables our Bomb so it isn't like that is without consequence for mafia either. We can effectively lose a kill in that modifier.
 

Sorian

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Dr. Monkey said:
I would also at this point like to say that Sorian's fake claim might be partially my fault because when he showed up the first thing I yelled was WHO DID THIS

Not that she probably actually thinks this but nah, I was already planning a love boat claim before we even voted it in to explain my harsh stonewalling on why I never wanted it voted in. It came together more when RNGsus was like "lol, monkey/sorian, brazil/fandorin would be funny"

Also cause my role name was Grizzly
 

Sorian

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Except for that part where he is shading Blarg just as much/more than monkey lol
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Probably they should agree to set a timer to vote someone out by majority 24hs into the day phase, that would give an new data point for the extra lynch

Easier said than done because towns are an unruly lot
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think I understand blarg now(¬o.o), he thinks Ceecee is scum because he believes there is a small scum team?
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Fireblend should spam his factsheet until they get it, being low profile only makes him a lame duck
 
Nothing is more entertaining than late game rac. Nothing.

He owns the floor now

Someone please look at my D6 LP vote, though ;_;

Edit: Go Febe!
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I wonder if scum should bus LP at some point or be greedy and try to save him

If in the first lynch they lynch town instead of cult, probably LP is saved due to cult scare

On the other hand if they get cult...not busing LP is a risky play for the second lynch
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
If they lynch a scum member this phase, there will be 8 players left at night, 2 scum 1 Fireblend 5 not scum

If monkey(roleblock) survives, the roleblock and night kill can mess with the recruiter(2/5 odds if they don't believe FB is cult) or the NK can kill the recruited (1/5) odds.

Cult really has a lot of roadblocks now
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Fireblend, you keep ON saying “i’ll follow fantomas [confirmed town] or monkey”, are you just picking at random, or are you showing off your knowledge of the teams lol?
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Scum knew Brazil was a PR who can verify himself given unpredictable modifiers or he was cult

What did they know of Monkey? That she claimed vanilla to Sorian
 

Sorian

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On the one hand, I want to cater to all neutrals and Fireblend deserves that win. On the other hand, he really fucked himself with that shot and, you know, maybe he'd be out of the game by now if he had stayed quiet and not revealed a cult.

Whoops.
 

Sorian

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Oh hey, all this nonsense talk from Blarg about not believing that Fran was a back up and etc etc.

@turmoil7 What was the redacted part of your role?

@Grizzly The bomb would have exploded on an override if they had used it on Faddy right?
 

Sorian

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Also as much as I want to root for Blarg I'm so lost on what he is talking about with this whole point that he started yesterday. Overrides are not day shots, they end the day, they are just the lynch.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Please also note, that you only inherit the first Mafia Power Role that dies, none of the possible later ones. Please also note, that you cannot inherit the Bomb. If the Bomb dies first, you will simply turn into Goon.

That's the redacted

IIRC the scum chat the bomb would had killed the overrider because the overrider lynches, doesn't kill, but I would need to look for the receipts
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Okay, last post and I'll stop spamming the spec chat I promise.

Shout out to town: We were at a disadvantage, and I feel like we did well in spite of that. And for those that were left in the game, you put up a good fight dudes and you all did a good job sticking it out. I wouldn't want to be in your place

Shout out to cult: Your choice for recruitment's were really fucking good, and you did an amazing job at hiding. Seriously, if not for Fireblend you might of went the whole way without getting exposed.

Shout out to Febe: You deserve this win, buddy.

Shout out to scum: From my short time here, I feel like you have some of the best players on this team and it really shows, really well played by everyone here.

Shout out to Grizzly: I know there's some talk of balance issues, and I think most of the critiques are fair and come from a good place, but I wanted you to know that I had a lot of fun playing this game. I'm sure you put a lot of work into this game and it shows.

Zubz and Ceecee: Sorry for using the wrong pronoun for both of you at different points in this game. That was really uncool of me, and I just want you both to know how sorry I am.

To everyone else: I haven't been here long, but I'm really glad I signed up for that first game. You're all really cool and I honestly think you're one of the best communities on this site. Seriously, you're all awesome.

Later gators.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Fantomas said:
Speaking of Verelios, I just realized I never trolled him from in here, since I am him, and he is totally watching this in Spec Thread.


(FOR VERELIOS' EYES AND USE ONLY)

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pffffft, my name gifs are being weaponized
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
hey @TheChuggernaut aka in-game me! That message was very sweet, we are all glad that you enjoy playing Mafia with us. I hope to see you in the next season!
 
I think they'll get one scum and one cult down today. Flux and Kyan will end up on LP, and scum on Flux. Blarg needs to drop the CeeCee thing, though.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
If they can get a cult and a scum lynch today, I'd almost say a town victory is back on the menu. Though that depends heavily on how the next night phase plays out.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Someone did spot the “bastard modifiers” give a cult recruit token. If they can realize that monkey is total scum with her obsession about cult and non-deadness then ....maybe....
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
The votes of those in the leading train would be locked, though, wouldn’t they? That probably wouldn’t be too great for town either.

If they lynch a first person early in a turbo, the voters can move their votes elsewhere afterwards.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I don't think so, the rules say nothing of locking votes

Majority right now is 6 and there is only 4 town so scum and cult could filibuster
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
what

This is NOT the time to mislynch on purpose to steer Town towards a different target.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I wonder what kyan will do if he has to pick between flux/ceecee, probably it is worth to risk it all saving flux given they think scum is only two strong
 
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