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Sawneeks

little green dog
Unless something changes I think Scum are gonna take this one. They're controlling the narrative of who to lynch at this point so unless Town/Cult suddenly change course I don't think any of the Scum Team are gonna be removed any time soon. There's some push for scum but not enough to make it significant. :<
 
Unless something changes I think Scum are gonna take this one. They're controlling the narrative of who to lynch at this point so unless Town/Cult suddenly change course I don't think any of the Scum Team are gonna be removed any time soon. There's some push for scum but not enough to make it significant. :<
It's fucking bizarre to me that LP didn't get lynched after how he moved on D6. Not just on D7, but that'd also be the easiest lynch to get out of the way on a double lynch day.

Goes to show the value of the "just disappear from the game" strategy.
 
I envy the people who are able to pull it off. If I disappeared for more than 12 hours from a game people would kill me faster than CeeCee killed Stan.

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Okay so let's see what could foreseeably happen:

Lynch Kyan -> Cult is dead -> kill a townie, scum wins (right?)
Lynch ceecee -> Kill Kyan, scum wins

Both of these assume they let Febe win finally.

If they lynch LP (most likely scum to be lynched) then Town has a 'chance' of winning? I think
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Okay so let's see what could foreseeably happen:

Lynch Kyan -> Cult is dead -> kill a townie, scum wins (right?)
Lynch ceecee -> Kill Kyan, scum wins

Both of these assume they let Febe win finally.

If they lynch LP (most likely scum to be lynched) then Town has a 'chance' of winning? I think

I think they could kill a townie instead of Kyan if and scum would still win if town lynches Ceecee, but yeah, they really need to kill LP next
 
Fanto has an amazing instinct, but if you argue with him reasonably, he’ll keep searching for something to agree with you on. And Natiko and Monkey sure can talk. He knows that there’s something wrong there. I just hope he doesn’t trust the narrative that they need to go for cult first. The fact that they’re pushing that is so absurdly telling.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
They’re trying to lead you down the wrong path friend Fanto. Don’t believe their lies

Quiet. There is max 2 scum left and town can wipe out the cult today to stop more recruits. Got to get the final cultist with this lynch to finish them off.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Fanto has an amazing instinct, but if you argue with him reasonably, he’ll keep searching for something to agree with you on. And Natiko and Monkey sure can talk. He knows that there’s something wrong there. I just hope he doesn’t trust the narrative that they need to go for cult first. The fact that they’re pushing that is so absurdly telling.

Yeah, Fanto seems to want to believe you for the most part which is cool if you’re town, but when it’s scum that are real good at spinning bullshit then it’s a big weakness. I hope he sees through this, but I’m thinking he’s going to go for Kyan. Which sucks because that would be a good move at anytime except for now.
 
Yeah, Fanto seems to want to believe you for the most part which is cool if you’re town, but when it’s scum that are real good at spinning bullshit then it’s a big weakness. I hope he sees through this, but I’m thinking he’s going to go for Kyan. Which sucks because that would be a good move at anytime except for now.
rac will show up guns blazing and push town in the right direction.

C’mon rac.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
It's fucking bizarre to me that LP didn't get lynched after how he moved on D6. Not just on D7, but that'd also be the easiest lynch to get out of the way on a double lynch day.

Goes to show the value of the "just disappear from the game" strategy.

Combo that with the scum control and LP can live forever. Monkey/Natiko being the talkers here just leaves them to decide the entire phase. I love Fanto but I think his loss after the cult got revealed really messed him up and now he's willing to follow people which is now biting him badly. CeeCee has all but given up, rac has his moments but I don't know if it's enough to sway Fanto, and Blarg...is Blarg.

With scum so blatantly forcing the 'kill cult' narrative and no one actually questioning it, scum is going to be handed the win. It's going to take not only Fanto waking up but CeeCee, Blarg, and Kyan to work together to even have a shot. Highly doubt that happens.

Really, if they lynch anyone not scum today and all jump on the votes for pineapple pizza then scum just flat out wins.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Yeah, doing some of the math scum can win tomorrow if they get kyan and give febe his pizza. They'd have to get through one more lynch but that shouldn't be hard with this current group.
 
Yeah, doing some of the math scum can win tomorrow if they get kyan and give febe his pizza. They'd have to get through one more lynch but that shouldn't be hard with this current group.
If they lynch Kyan and let Febe go, they win. No mislynch needed.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Lol at blarg turning around his begging.
He spent a whole day phase asking to be recruited and not scum hunting at all, now he wants to stay town. But is ....I can’t tell if he’s serious about ceecee or if its a gambit to draw people out tbh.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Combo that with the scum control and LP can live forever. Monkey/Natiko being the talkers here just leaves them to decide the entire phase. I love Fanto but I think his loss after the cult got revealed really messed him up and now he's willing to follow people which is now biting him badly. CeeCee has all but given up, rac has his moments but I don't know if it's enough to sway Fanto, and Blarg...is Blarg.

With scum so blatantly forcing the 'kill cult' narrative and no one actually questioning it, scum is going to be handed the win. It's going to take not only Fanto waking up but CeeCee, Blarg, and Kyan to work together to even have a shot. Highly doubt that happens.

Really, if they lynch anyone not scum today and all jump on the votes for pineapple pizza then scum just flat out wins.

Yeah, Fanto needed to step up and be town leader after the cult popped up, but it just broke him. He’s completely blind to Monkey and Nat. Fanto is good and new though (I think we had our first games at the same time) so I’m sure he’ll learn from this.

rac is doing really good too, but he’s not really great at swaying people. I think Fanto is which is why I’ve been a bit more critical of him.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Yeah, scum is going to push Kyan and Ceecee. Probably going to get Kyan because Fanto is feeling that. Then they stack Pizza and kill Blarg or whatever and win
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
If they lynch Kyan and let Febe go, they win. No mislynch needed.
Doing mental math so you're probably right. They likely take the game tonight.

Yeah, Fanto needed to step up and be town leader after the cult popped up, but it just broke him. He’s completely blind to Monkey and Nat. Fanto is good and new though (I think we had our first games at the same time) so I’m sure he’ll learn from this.

rac is doing really good too, but he’s not really great at swaying people. I think Fanto is which is why I’ve been a bit more critical of him.
Fanto will never, ever, ever trust Nat or Monkey again after this. This is getting to Sorian and Monkey level of trust here. He won't be the same after this.
 
rac, this could be your moment of truth. Get back in the thread and lead town the right path man.

Goddamn. Endgame rac is a joy to watch.

Blarg, get your head outta the tunnel and push the scum lynch. You said it this phase already, scum first.
 

cabot

Why.
I don't think town have got this. None of the remaining town are questioning why they're so keen on hunting cult. Someone should be doing the numbers at this stage to show the outcomes of all scenarios, which would show scum is more dangerous right now.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I don't think town have got this. None of the remaining town are questioning why they're so keen on hunting cult. Someone should be doing the numbers at this stage to show the outcomes of all scenarios, which would show scum is more dangerous right now.

Yeah, Neeks had a good post earlier that summed it up pretty well.

Fanto has bought into what scum is selling too hard
rac is kind of on the right track, but I don't think he's convincing anyone
Ceecee seems done
Blarg is Blarg
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
As much as I usually like to side with town when spectating, I have to say that the scum team have done well to wrest control away from the cult over the last day or so.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
They can still afford to No Lynch. Even ignoring a possible recruitment, if they don't lynch again and febe leaves and mafia kills someone, next day would start with 7 players, 3 of them mafia.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
yeah but even in that scenario (next day starts with 2 town, 3 mafia, 2 cult) there's still a 0.0000000000000000001% chance town can win by not lynching today #believe
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Best case scenario:

Town lynches scum today
Town votes for Disney Princess Modifier.

That would buy them time, especially if scum would roleblock or even kill Kyan.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
You said scum roles would get 'buff' if Disney princesses was chosen, what was that?

Although I doubt it is something worth it at this stage of the game
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
You said scum roles would get 'buff' if Disney princesses was chosen, what was that?

Although I doubt it is something worth it at this stage of the game

Roleblocker would turn into jailer for the night phase, and they would get a 1-shot role cop shot. At this late stage those are lot less powerful though.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Blarg's avatar game has been on point all the way. It takes some effort to have a new one ready for every phase.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Dr. Monkey said:
Blarg- would be a great candidate, but has also been somewhat aggro about cult eradication.
Fireblend- leaning toward claim belief here; has helped with cult
rac- feels more clear than other unknowns based on his actions and actions toward him
Kyanrute- very disconnected at times, but did not vote modifiers with Sorian and crew. Low key all game. No notable (maybe) no interactions with Sorian. Treated oddly by Flux.
CeeCee- Turn to scumhunting here is notable. If Flux was a recruit, makes CeeCee another likely recruit target, but leaves question open of identity of OG cult.

The others I don't think are cult.

come on, monkey

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will LP do a Luigi and win by doing nothing?
 
So they won't no lynch, and scum are currently completely controlling the narrative. It would take someone to have a total breakthrough, and manage to convince the others.

I didn't realize that the game might possibly end with this lynch.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
that post from monkey was lazy: bringing up a theory that cult has a vig shot for no reason at all other than to add noise, ignoring reading a third of the living players because she thinks they aren't cult (when she was jumping on flux for saying things were facts when they weren't), and providing shallow reads on the other 2 thirds when she puts waay more effort usually, especially during endgame.
 
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that post from monkey post was lazy: bringing up a theory that cult has a vig shot for no reason at all other than to add noise, ignoring reading a third of the living players because she thinks they aren't cult (when she was jumping on flux for saying things were facts when they weren't), and providing shallow reads on the other 2 thirds when she puts waay more effort usually, especially during endgame.
She's just flaunting at this point :P

We give Monkey too much leeway with scummy-ass posts because we think she wouldn't make it that obvious if she was actually scum.

Lesson learned.
 
It's a thing we hear a lot. Lots of WIFOM really.
I don't think it's actually WIFOM in cases like this. It's more of a meta thing. Scum is usually more careful to not be flippant and reactionary, which makes posts like Monkey's "We can't possibly draw any conclusions from Faddy's posts" sound a lot more like lost town than slipping scum.
 
I don't think it's actually WIFOM in cases like this. It's more of a meta thing. Scum is usually more careful to not be flippant and reactionary, which makes posts like Monkey's "We can't possibly draw any conclusions from Faddy's posts" sound a lot more like lost town than slipping scum.

Like I said, we see it all the time in games. "Would they really be so obvious?"

It makes it rather easy for scum to do just that knowing that people would think "nah, too obvious"
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Majority is 5 and scum has 3 people. They just need one more vote on Kyan there and if every scummate is online, this is it.
 
Zzzzz

If we're just gonna sleepwalk into the Kyan lynch, just hammer it so we can move on to the next season faster :P
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Majority is 5 and scum has 3 people. They just need one more vote on Kyan there and if every scummate is online, this is it.
even if they all reveal themselves as scum today and PPM does not get chosen, they can arrange a deal with Febe in the next day to be on their side and guarantee a Mafia/PPM victory.
 

Franconp

Frank
If we don't hit Cult today or there is still one more around, they'll probably Cult Hunt again tonight.

Otherwise, I finally get to die.

So let's kill Cult today and cross our fingers they are the last one so I can finally go to Spec Chat. :)

If Fantomas knows that scum needs to cult hunt, why the hell is he supporting them and lynching Kyan? Have scum deal with the cult while you try to scumhunt.

This makes me sooo mad. This is nonsense. I'm out.

*Insert Seinfield gif*
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
If Fantomas knows that scum needs to cult hunt, why the hell is he supporting them and lynching Kyan? Have scum deal with the cult while you try to scumhunt.

This makes me sooo mad. This is nonsense. I'm out.

*Insert Seinfield gif*
monkey thinks they "have to try to get cult first because cult will spread. Scum doesn't.". trust monkey here, fran; cult is the danger and she'll get you your victory
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
come on, monkey

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will LP do a Luigi and win by doing nothing?

That is very harsh on LP. He is doing more than enough in the game. If people don't want to push him that is on them. He is much more engaged than CeeCee for example. His posts are actually full of details and stances in the game. I would like to think my post about him being a third replacement making him obvious scum gave him some town credit.

This isn't the old 4 or 5 posts per phase LP, nor just shitposting to reach 10. This is posting with a plan and goal in mind. Monkey is controlling the day and that is exactly what we need. We don't need more piling on Kyan or antaganising other townies because it might shake them out of their malaise.

1 vote from victory. Come on Febe. Vote for Kyan and win!
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
That is very harsh on LP. He is doing more than enough in the game. If people don't want to push him that is on them. He is much more engaged than CeeCee for example. His posts are actually full of details and stances in the game. I would like to think my post about him being a third replacement making him obvious scum gave him some town credit.

This isn't the old 4 or 5 posts per phase LP, nor just shitposting to reach 10. This is posting with a plan and goal in mind. Monkey is controlling the day and that is exactly what we need. We don't need more piling on Kyan or antaganising other townies because it might shake them out of their malaise.
I saw him in this game counting his posts to reach 10, let's not pretend this didn't happen here. Still, that Luigi meme is more about people destroying themselves instead of (literally) pushing him, so it works in this context.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I saw him in this game counting his posts to reach 10, let's not pretend this didn't happen here. Still, that Luigi meme is more about people destroying themselves instead of (literally) pushing him, so it works in this context.

Look at what he is doing right now. Most people think he is scummy right. Monkey is pushing the thread massivel in the wrong direction but LP is the one bringing up the bad points in her argument. That immediately makes those points tainted in the minds of the people scum reading LP so are more likely just to follow monkey because it makes her town.

I think there will be genuine shock amongst the living players if the game just abruptly ends.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I agree, LP is playing (or not playing) an awesome game imo

I reserve the right to have fun with LP memes, tho
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Look at what he is doing right now. Most people think he is scummy right. Monkey is pushing the thread massivel in the wrong direction but LP is the one bringing up the bad points in her argument. That immediately makes those points tainted in the minds of the people scum reading LP so are more likely just to follow monkey because it makes her town.

I think there will be genuine shock amongst the living players if the game just abruptly ends.

Yeah, I wish some other townie could follow up on his posts this day. And it doesn't seem that people are considering an original mafia team with 6 members...
 
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