Scum Thread The Morphogenetic Field
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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@BronsonLee Don’t worry too much about this phase. I’m not worried about whether we end up paired together or not. Just try and raise up the points you would care about if you were someone trying to actively solve the game.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I appreciate the consistency, thanks Faddy!
ok so just play it straight?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, there’s no real reason to stress over the outcome. The middle phases are what will matter.
I definitely don't think we should be in the same room if possible on this first go round
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Ideally we end up split this first go and in the same room the second go (assuming there haven’t been any rooms that landed on no exclusion). I just don’t think it’s so important as to make a point to push in that direction. Let it happen naturally.
Do we have any room preference we want me to try to follow the crowd on? N might be good, you could try and push saenima out and I could look at donna for coastie toastie in my spot?
I dunno how aggressive we wanna play this but we can win this game in 2 days or so if we're smart enough, and I think it makes sense for you to lead the charge while I play similar to how I played in Mansion, which is follow the leader/info a bit
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I like N but I won't push for it as it goes against what I've already proposed. If we get split up we'll be fine regardless, but the main thing is to not push too hard for something that outs us.
Yeah, I've already argued they shouldn't skip an exclusion which mathematically is true and also in general I feel is better for us to minimize the exposure we have.
I'm iffy on Room Q, it puts me in a room with 3 vets and I think they're gonna zero in on the newbie
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don't think that room will actually go through so it should be okay.
We wanna push this Zipped/Donna thing?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You can if you want, but I'm just going to stay the course. With not votes today we can prod but it probably won't get much heat until phase 2.
I'm gonna play up my newbery for D1 since I usually do need slip-ups/more info anyways
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah that’s good. I like this result so far - has people connecting you with townies.
You're looking safe and I'm getting lumped with townies, yeah
With no power roles and such I'm assuming Kopite dies N1 no matter what, ya
If we get stuck in R and we get in trouble, we should toss Zipped, he could be a danger later on
I'm gonna let the thread linger for a bit, I wanna see if we can sneak donna or Kopite to vote on Zipped first
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, that’s fine. I don’t think Zipped’s points on me are strong enough to gain much traction.
Who do we wanna push for, donna?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just do what comes natural to what you're discussing - if we end up voting different people that's cool but no need to force it.
Gotcha.
I think this is gonna end in either a donna exclude or a no exclude
I think this is gonna end in either a donna exclude or a no exclude
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think I may push Zipped, so if you end up going for Donna we may be able to swing Donna to Zipped out of preservation. If Zipped goes for you instead before she moves and I'm the deciding vote I can just vote Donna as well and we'll risk the stacked vote.
got it
Looks like we'll have to vote Donna unless something changes
In case I get bopped, how do you feel N1? I think going after Kopite or Zipped N1 makes it very obvious
In case I get bopped, how do you feel N1? I think going after Kopite or Zipped N1 makes it very obvious
If you're on board with that then Kopite definitely has to go
That 9 bracelet is too powerful
That 9 bracelet is too powerful
also what does WIFOM mean, forgive my terminology newbery :p
are you gonna hammer?
are you gonna hammer?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Okay I have a question for you - and I want you to just be honest and tell me how you feel. I don't mind. How would you feel if I just super bussed you and killed you for the most town cred in the world?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Also - WIFOM is https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM
How well do you think you could hide if you pulled that move?
I think it's better if we save that move for later to be honest, we could drop 3 town members in one phase
then if we're in the same room again you can pull that cord
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I doubt we end up in a room again after this, but the thought process was we would go into tomorrow 5-1. I would need to survive two exclude phases at that point, but I'd have a lot of town cred. I'll just vote Donna though and we'll hope for the best in the next exclude phase.
If they go after me next phase then you can either lead the charge or be the decider, both would have a similar effect I think
ahhh damn you're probably right
we'll definitely need to coordinate how the separate rooms are going next phase too, I don't like going blind
we'll definitely need to coordinate how the separate rooms are going next phase too, I don't like going blind
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
They'll probably go after both of us tbh lol
which move do you think is better, then? I wanna win dammit :p
I just think Donna is the standard move and losing 1 of 2 scum D1 is a death sentence
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Best argument for hammering then :P
Congratulations! You have both passing the Exclusion Phase.
Once the Exclusion results are announced on ERA you will then be able to Eliminate a player still in the game.
Reminder that you must eliminate someone, otherwise I will RNG the command!
n i c e
are we allowed to discuss things in here still?
@Natiko who you got your eye on RE: eliminating?
holy hell, did the other room not decide yet?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
You may continue to discuss the game or anything else you want in here.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm sort of second guessing my earlier statement. It may behoove us to kill in the other group. I want to see what their result is before committing. It's either Kopite or someone on their side depending on the result.
Yeah I am not keen on killing Zipped now, but Kopite would be the clear #1 target with a bullet for any scum group as he can sway votes
Does he seem amenable to voting with us in general?
I'd say either Apollo or Vere would be most dangerous?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I would maybe lean towards Apollo, but lets see who dies before we worry too much.
oh my god they no excluded
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Hmmmm, I had a bad feeling this would be the result. I think we’re probably gonna lose. I almost wonder if the best play is killing Zipped. It’ll throw Kopite off, and it might be possible to argue that kill seems unlikely if the scum team had a view into the room. Worst case I can try and spin it that you’re the only one I could see being scum and that perhaps it was done since Zipped was the other one scum reading you.
Damn this is bad, I think it would've been worse if I got tossed too
We definitely need to split the room for sure next time.
I think it's either Zipped or Apollo, and I'm leaning Zipped
I don't need to do the command either right
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
You don't need to...
If you disagree and think Natiko is being a big dummy you may submit an alternate kill.
If you have 2 active kill commands at the deadline I will RNG between them.
oh lawd
who would do that lol
who would do that lol
man I gotta know what happened in that damn room
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
They decided they were all town and we’re going to have to hope they turn on each other or that Kopite doesn’t turn on me. This is a bad situation to be in though.
Yeah I think that no exclude is gonna be the crusher for us
I may dial down my posts even more too to see if I can coastie toastie
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m going to go hard on you and the hope will be that’s enough for one of us to live if the other flips
Yeah I think if things turn out weird you gunning for me would be a good way to earn town points
I kinda wanna see how Kopite handles everything tbh
The other place is a total goddamn wildcard. Or did they tie?
The other place is a total goddamn wildcard. Or did they tie?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m guessing they voted to not exclude. Then they’ll all zero in on the people that were on the dead townie (us) and Kopite lol
I 100% want Flux in the same room as Verelios again
I think we can push Apollo and Vere REAL hard
I want door B because on my side it'd be Flux, Vere, and me depending on where Kopite goes. I can easily play follow the leader and get Vere out.
Door G is also interesting because if we're in the same room and Kopite goes in the other one, Apollo is insta-dead
Door G is also interesting because if we're in the same room and Kopite goes in the other one, Apollo is insta-dead
And part of me really wants to pull some shit like 'you know you're already dead, right' to somebody :p
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don't know what room I want, but I suspect everyone will go with Flux's plan to no exclude in the 4 person room.
That's fine. I want to get one of these people out quick:
Flux
Apollo
Vere
If we can get two, lovely
Flux
Apollo
Vere
If we can get two, lovely
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Probably going to be between us two and Kopite and Vere. I’m going to push for you to die to create separation in case one of us is picked.
I'm gonna press Vere more, though Kopite not being around a lot could help push a coastie toastie narrative
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just do what you feel would be your progression as town. I think I’m laying some ground to try and link myself to Kopite more than you. Hopefully that’s enough to carry one of us to the end.
I think if you can link yourself and Kopite and get past Flux we got this
How many phases do we need to survive before it's a win?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Two exclusion phases if they don't get either of us, three if they get one of us.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Fingers crossed town follows Flux onto Kopite. Meanwhile I'm going to wait for Apollo and Sae to say more and then come to the conclusion that one scum was in each room and push for you. Then after Kopite dies and I double down on you they'll either follow me and that'll buy me cred for the final exclusion phase or they won't and they'll go for me and the fact that I pushed you so hard will clear you for the final exclusion phase.
yeah let Flux overthink his way to a loss, lol
Should we roll with Flux if he votes Room D again? Taking Kopite off the board would be excellent
I like the potential scenario here
You push hard on me, I pull scum, town points
You go along with Flux on his Kopite pull, he's wrong
You ice whoever
I take a nap
You push hard on me, I pull scum, town points
You go along with Flux on his Kopite pull, he's wrong
You ice whoever
I take a nap
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You can go with Flux on Kopite but you need to post some arguments as to why more than him just not showing up so far before you put a vote down. I’m going to stay on you no matter what Apollo and Sae end up saying. Then we just see where the rest fall. If Kopite goes next phase one of me or you will be likely to go next and the other will hopefully be able to ride it out to the end. If you go next then I look really good and I just have to get a couple MEs on people that argued to save you like Flux.
oh breh you may have overplayed your hand here lol