Spectator Thread 999 and Mini Mafia V Spectator Thread

Screw them. I didn't feel like spending 9 hours defending myself after spending the last 24+ doing so.
 
I left them enough clues about Claude. Maybe they find them. I don't think I could have been more obvious.

I could have claimed Cop, but odds are I was gonna get NK.

I thought about lying to save myself - claim some other role - but you vote off liars, so decided against that.

I just want to see some of the townies squirm like they did to me.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I left them enough clues about Claude. Maybe they find them. I don't think I could have been more obvious.

I could have claimed Cop, but odds are I was gonna get NK.

I thought about lying to save myself - claim some other role - but you vote off liars, so decided against that.

I just want to see some of the townies squirm like they did to me.

I think not claiming is bad since you don't know if there is a doctor who could protect you and the mafia roleblocker is dead. Having said that, Cop is the easiest claim to fake in this set up since in the letter regime if CC is replaced with TT the cop is replaced with a vanilla town. So maybe one green check isn't going to be compelling evidence but you could explain why you checked a certain person to show why you were town.

You shouldn't want to see townies squirm. That is your team. They can be wrong about you but you need to do your best to give them all the info you have, explain your stances as clearly as you can. And if they still mislynch you can at least be happy you did your best.

Claiming might not have saved you long term but it would have probably have been enough to survive day 2 and get another check.
 
I think you did a good job defending yourself Carl. Unfortunately your link to me was just too appetizing to pass up. In another world I would've flipped town and you'd be the one saying I told you so.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hi everyone, I subbed out.

You'll learn who I was eventually but spoiler for my in-game identity/role/alignment:

Trevor
Town Mason
Mason Partner:
Catalina

My final scum reads were Asuka and Huang.

The current plan in Mason Chat is to mass claim and murder the shit out of Sorian... I mean... Asuka...

I haven't peeked at the identity spoilers in here, but this was my final list after D2:

[m] Vincent Alexander - TommyV
[m] Olinad - Michael
[m] WhySoDevious - Claude/Carl
[they] Aeleus - Carl/Claude
[m] Kyanrute - Catalina
[f] Dr. Monkey - Lance
[-] Sorian - Asuka
[m] Muffin - Ken
[m] Godfather - Franklin
[f] Kitsunelaine - Huang
[-] Swamped - Stan - Roman
[m] Lone_Prodigy - Niko
 
Hi everyone, I subbed out.

You'll learn who I was eventually but spoiler for my in-game identity/role/alignment:

Trevor
Town Mason
Mason Partner:
Catalina

My final scum reads were Asuka and Huang.

The current plan in Mason Chat is to mass claim and murder the shit out of Sorian... I mean... Asuka...

I haven't peeked at the identity spoilers in here, but this was my final list after D2:

[m] Vincent Alexander - TommyV
[m] Olinad - Michael
[m] WhySoDevious - Claude/Carl
[they] Aeleus - Carl/Claude
[m] Kyanrute - Catalina
[f] Dr. Monkey - Lance
[-] Sorian - Asuka
[m] Muffin - Ken
[m] Godfather - Franklin
[f] Kitsunelaine - Huang
[-] Swamped - Stan - Roman
[m] Lone_Prodigy - Niko

Would you like any confirmations? Or spoilers messaged to you? :P
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Screw them. I didn't feel like spending 9 hours defending myself after spending the last 24+ doing so.
I don't want to get into a huge thing about this, but here's what I have to say about your play there:

That was the most Anti-Town route you could have possibly taken. What you should have done was told us right then and there that you were the Cop and gave us your info. Sure, some people might have wondered whether or not you were lying, but there's no way in hell we vote out a claimed Cop when we know that the RB is dead and there is possibly a Doctor.

I don't want to be a dick about it because I can tell you were really frustrated and I know how it feels to get really into these games and have negative emotional outbursts, it can be very cathartic. However, I think when you calm down you'll see that it might have felt good to you at the moment, but there's a good chance that the rest of the players on your team in there are feeling really let down by that move.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also, @Lance
maybe if it's a costume game, Fanto can't get his revenge.
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
and I am very sorry you are burned out from this game, really :(
I just didn't have the Mafia-playing energy left to keep going with this one, too many weird things going on, I was confident in my reads and everything but didn't feel like I could keep up with my own pace anymore.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Tell me about it.

My tinfoil hat scum is still Trevor, which would also be funny - but I also think he would have not offed me n1 since I had him as town.

I'll make my real scum guesses tomorrow. Right now I'd be leaning hard on Catalina, I think.

identity spec:
New guess is Sorian is Asuka and kitsunelaine is Catalina. Franklin is Godfather.
If I was Scum, I would have killed you N1. If I was a Vig, I would have killed you N1. If I was a SK, I would have killed you N1.

<3
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
My alignment/role:
Y'all really want me to be Scum again, don't you? You just can't accept me as Town for more than one day when I put on my Town Leader hat. I will admit, the fact that I had extra info in that I knew that my Mason partner was also Town did make me play slightly differently to how I would play without extra info, same thing happened to me in MafiEra, but still, I'm as Town as I can be out there god dammit! Just face the facts!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, I feel bad about subbing out, but I still think it was the right call for me to make.

Just throughout D2 in general, I was feeling like I didn't have much to say (says the guy with 100 posts), and that I wasn't sure how to navigate through the game anymore. There were a lot of players I wanted to call out, or pressure, or something, but I just didn't have any idea how to go about it anymore.

I had a lot of energy on D1, and that just sort of went away on D2 for whatever reason, and by the end I just had very little motivation left in me. On N1 I was totally into going through and digging for clues, but when I went to go do the same now when N2 started, I found that I really just didn't care anymore, which was a bad feeling.

And that's what led me to asking for a replacement. My guess is it's a burnout thing, that's kind of what it feels like. I had my scum reads, and I just didn't give a fuck whether I was right or wrong, or what new evidence I could find, or who were my top Town reads, none of it felt like it mattered.

So yeah, big long post to basically say that I don't know if this was just because of this game and how things were going, or if in general I just need to stay away from Mafia for a while and actually want to care again. I don't know.

Knowing me, it'll be hard for me to stay away for very long, but now I'll have this thing in the back of my mind like "what if the game burns me out though" and that might not be good, so I'll probably want to make sure that thought goes away before I sign up again.
 

heymonkey

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Costume games can be really hard and weird, so don't measure anything by that. <3 This is really nothing like a normal game and it's kind of a thing where it's easy to not get into it because the identities blend and it feels like there are no stakes.

I'm surprised about
your mason partner, tbh
 

heymonkey

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Staff member
Oh, I guess I just outed myself by accident because I didn't check how I was logged in. I didn't really try to hide this time, though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Costume games can be really hard and weird, so don't measure anything by that. <3 This is really nothing like a normal game and it's kind of a thing where it's easy to not get into it because the identities blend and it feels like there are no stakes.

I'm surprised about
your mason partner, tbh
That might have been part of it too, I was having trouble remembering who said what outside of my firmest identity reads. I really love the concept of a costume game, but yeah, things just felt off to me after a while. I would probably have felt a lot more comfortable if the masks were off, the meta is real lol.

Really? I thought I made it obvious with how I was defending her, I even got called out for it. I had a kind of shitty breadcrumb on D1 that I dropped too.

I made both of us confirmed town gifs, and I really hope she uses hers lol.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
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I'll never forgive that group that excluded you in 999 by the way. I shook my head solemnly when I saw that flip.
So now you double hate me? Damn

So, I feel bad about subbing out, but I still think it was the right call for me to make.

Just throughout D2 in general, I was feeling like I didn't have much to say (says the guy with 100 posts), and that I wasn't sure how to navigate through the game anymore. There were a lot of players I wanted to call out, or pressure, or something, but I just didn't have any idea how to go about it anymore.

I had a lot of energy on D1, and that just sort of went away on D2 for whatever reason, and by the end I just had very little motivation left in me. On N1 I was totally into going through and digging for clues, but when I went to go do the same now when N2 started, I found that I really just didn't care anymore, which was a bad feeling.

And that's what led me to asking for a replacement. My guess is it's a burnout thing, that's kind of what it feels like. I had my scum reads, and I just didn't give a fuck whether I was right or wrong, or what new evidence I could find, or who were my top Town reads, none of it felt like it mattered.

So yeah, big long post to basically say that I don't know if this was just because of this game and how things were going, or if in general I just need to stay away from Mafia for a while and actually want to care again. I don't know.

Knowing me, it'll be hard for me to stay away for very long, but now I'll have this thing in the back of my mind like "what if the game burns me out though" and that might not be good, so I'll probably want to make sure that thought goes away before I sign up again.
It’s understandable. I’ve never actually been able to follow a costume game so far. It’s so hard for me to keep my thoughts straight with all the generic accounts. I’m glad people enjoy them, but I don’t think it’s for me.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So now you double hate me? Damn
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(Still can't get over that self vote though lmao that was so good)
It’s understandable. I’ve never actually been able to follow a costume game so far. It’s so hard for me to keep my thoughts straight with all the generic accounts. I’m glad people enjoy them, but I don’t think it’s for me.
Yeah, I think I might have had more fun just trying to guess who was who from in here and not having to put as much effort in as I normally try to, because it was a lot harder than normal for me to get there. I hope it was just the costume aspect.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
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(Still can't get over that self vote though lmao that was so good)

Yeah, I think I might have had more fun just trying to guess who was who from in here and not having to put as much effort in as I normally try to, because it was a lot harder than normal for me to get there. I hope it was just the costume aspect.
You won’t be able to resist the next game so I suspect you’ll be back pretty soon :P I think half the fun is the interactions and the masks just make it harder. I’m sure you will get back into the groove no problem, though I know a lot of us have taken various breaks so if you do think you need some time by all means don’t feel like you have to play.
 
I can understand somewhat since I vaguely remember struggling a bit in power rangers trying to figure out who was who and everything. Not that mafia gave me much of a chance lol.

It's okay to take a break. I know I've cut it back a bit! Season 11 (my first season here) I did 4 games, season 12 only 2, one of those I subbed out and obviously for season 13 so far only 1.
 
I'm not reading any spoilers but playing a costume game is a different experience and lacking that meta or familiarity can make it frustrating or difficult to play.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hi, I'm on mobile right now. No, I had no idea you were Niko, but I should have known!! Lol, that was great, I loved your posts.

As for your guesses above, I'll just say

They aren't both scum
 

Kitsunelaine

hi i'm a backpack
Hi, I'm on mobile right now. No, I had no idea you were Niko, but I should have known!! Lol, that was great, I loved your posts.

As for your guesses above, I'll just say

They aren't both scum
half

Aaaah, I'm nailbiting now. I wonder if I had my sights pointed at the right target since D1.

And thanks, lol. I'm still tempted to write up a massive will.
 
I need to go back and re-read Asuka. I already looked at Carl, and he offered just about 0 info as far I could tell.
Except the one long ass post where I make up some BS reason for leaning town on Claude.

“He thinks like me”

“He was the mid vote, just like I’ve done”

Makes me think TommyV really is scum or SK
 

Kitsunelaine

hi i'm a backpack
Except the one long ass post where I make up some BS reason for leaning town on Claude.

“He thinks like me”

“He was the mid vote, just like I’ve done”

Makes me think TommyV really is scum or SK

i'm screaming if he is. he's played pretty well to get out of the hole he dug himself
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Zzzzz, You two took too long to give me spec access so I did it myself.

Without reading anything here: one of (or both) Catalina and Trevor are mafia, add in Tommy and that group of three should have all the mafia. Ken roleblocked me N1. Carl got a town read on either Claude or Nico, I think it was Claude personally.

Any good guesses in there?
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member

Ok, read through now, I was right on 2 of 3! Maybe, I guess I don't know if Ken roleblocked me but I don't see any other way Lance died.

Franklin had me completely fooled, I even protected him last night, props to whoever that is
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Zzzzz, You two took too long to give me spec access so I did it myself.

Without reading anything here: one of (or both) Catalina and Trevor are mafia, add in Tommy and that group of three should have all the mafia. Ken roleblocked me N1. Carl got a town read on either Claude or Nico, I think it was Claude personally.

Any good guesses in there?

You got the Claude thing correct.

It actually isn't too bad a guess apart from being completely wrong on alignments.

You weren't roleblocked
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
You got the Claude thing correct.

It actually isn't too bad a guess apart from being completely wrong on alignments.

You weren't roleblocked

How many killing roles are in the game? Two people really targeted Lance?

Edit: Nevermind, I was late. That's some shit then. What is that SK doing with these bad picks? lol
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Town almost has to lynch the SK today to have a chance here.

Absolutely

Also side note, wasn't Franklin the one that was saying the C++ set up stuff was too complicated yesterday? Now he's a pro? lol
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I wonder if anyone will be brazen and accuse the masons of being the last two scum instead.

Also wonder if anyone will try to figure out who Carl checked. It wasn't super obvious but the sign posts are there.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Catalina said:
2-1-1 devolves into a no lynch into a fucking madness.
Crossing my fingers for the 1-1-1 end game where Town has to not vote and hope the Mafia and SK shoot each other, except they can't do that because they know that situation will result in their own loss, so they must shoot the townie, but then the other killer will know that they know that, meaning they could shoot them instead and win, but since they know they know they know that, then they would want to shoot each other, but this would result in a town win, and that would be playing to lose, so instead they would try to shoot the townie...
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Crossing my fingers for the 1-1-1 end game where Town has to not vote and hope the Mafia and SK shoot each other, except they can't do that because they know that situation will result in their own loss, so they must shoot the townie, but then the other killer will know that they know that, meaning they could shoot them instead and win, but since they know they know they know that, then they would want to shoot each other, but this would result in a town win, and that would be playing to lose, so instead they would try to shoot the townie...

I'm too lazy to check the set-up. I assume this game goes by standard rules where a 1v1 scum vs. SK is automatically the SK win?
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Yo this fire, I never had a good guess, who are Catalina and Claude? Feel free to put it in tags.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I knew who Catalina was based on her first post in our Mason thread lol.

Catalina - Kyanrute
Claude - Muffin
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I knew who Catalina was based on her first post in our Mason thread lol.

Catalina - Kyanrute
Claude - Muffin

That makes so much sense. I never bothered looking back at the original list so I was never even completely clear on who made it into the game to begin with. I only suspected her based on me thinking I was roleblocked by the way. The only two people who would have roleblocked me were you or her (I knew who you were).
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Oooo, I think new Trevor has better gif game than you.

:D
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Masons being a Scum gambit would be an awesome thing, and I would totally have approved of it, but man, if they go for one of them today that will be amazing.

I will say though, the gifs were really meant for after one of them flipped, I probably should have made that more clear in the chat lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
wow. you got it right. actually surprised haha.
Well, I knew he signed up but didn't get in, but also, this is the most Z-Beat thing to say ever lol:
Thing is you left that 'supposed' in a place that looks like you're questioning that I'm not a replacement
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum team spoilers:
Go Tommy! Basically solving the game for them. That green check on Claude from Carl would have made this a looooooooooot easier for him though...
 

Kitsunelaine

hi i'm a backpack
well i'm glad i died last night because i'd have to have gotten a replacement today thanks to my city being a target of terrorism right now and me being kinda shook
 

heymonkey

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the thing that's heartbreaking is that it just doesn't happen over here. mass shootings aren't a thing in new zealand.
Yeah. And from the news, this seems particularly... egregious. I won't lie. It will take time before shit feels normal again, especially for y'all.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Catalina said:
I think it tells something about the authenticity of the counter-mason push if the pushers aren't formalizing actual arguments apart from "possible scum gambit" or "hidden meanie masterminds in action".
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, 7 players left: 4 Town, 1 SK, 2 Mafia.

Kill SK, it's a 3-2 LyLo tomorrow, which is manageable but rough.

Kill Mafia...
  • If SK shoots Mafia and Mafia shoots SK (assuming SK is not BP), it's 4-0-0 and Town wins. Kind of unlikely though.
  • If SK shoots Mafia and Mafia shoots Town, it's 3-1 with just the SK and Town left.
  • If SK shoots Town and Mafia shoots SK, it's 3-1 with just one Mafia left.
  • If both shoot Town, it's 2-1-1, which probably leads to a Town loss?
Kill Town...
  • If SK shoots Mafia and Mafia shoots SK, it's a 2-1 LyLo.
  • If SK shoots Mafia and Mafia shoots Town, it's a 2-1-1.
  • If SK shoots Town and Mafia shoots SK, it's 2-2, Mafia wins.
  • If both shoot Town, it's 1-1-2, which is... a Mafia win? I think?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Man, I really did fuck up on D1 by switching my vote to Michael. I always seem to have good instincts in the early game, and then I doubt myself and fuck it all up.
 
Roman might not make it today but Franklin could still win this, assuming he doesn't get hit by the SK. Tommy is dangerous though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Huang said:
Also me pretending to be that person was meant to be a bit of fun, same as Niko doing his posting style, if it made him uncomfertable I apologise unreservedly, I hadn't thought that as a possibility, I'll make sure not to do it again.
I'll address this in here:

It did make me feel uncomfortable, mainly because it felt like I was being personally targeted by someone, and I wasn't sure who they were or why they were doing it. After finding out who you are, I'm still not sure why you singled me out like that, because I've never played with you before, so I can only guess as to why you decided to do that.

I also think it's unfair to compare that to how Niko was playing, because Niko was simply adding some flavor to his posts. You were purposefully trying to impersonate another player on the roster, which is not at all similar in my mind.

All that being said, I don't think there was anything wrong with the play necessarily since it was a costume game after all, and I accept the apology, but I do think that was a bit of a grey area that you were in there and isn't really comparable to what Niko was doing.
 
lol now I get why I was slaughtered day one, I inadvertently managed to @ all scum in a single post. Lucky as always.
 

Kitsunelaine

hi i'm a backpack
I'll address this in here:

It did make me feel uncomfortable, mainly because it felt like I was being personally targeted by someone, and I wasn't sure who they were or why they were doing it. After finding out who you are, I'm still not sure why you singled me out like that, because I've never played with you before, so I can only guess as to why you decided to do that.

I also think it's unfair to compare that to how Niko was playing, because Niko was simply adding some flavor to his posts. You were purposefully trying to impersonate another player on the roster, which is not at all similar in my mind.

All that being said, I don't think there was anything wrong with the play necessarily since it was a costume game after all, and I accept the apology, but I do think that was a bit of a grey area that you were in there and isn't really comparable to what Niko was doing.

Just an FYI, you can refer to me as she out of game. <3
 
It did make me feel uncomfortable, mainly because it felt like I was being personally targeted by someone, and I wasn't sure who they were or why they were doing it. After finding out who you are, I'm still not sure why you singled me out like that, because I've never played with you before, so I can only guess as to why you decided to do that.

In PR, we had a player pretend to be a different player each day. It was hilarious tbh.

But yeah, I don't think they were personally targeting you, they were just having a bit of fun. And they really like your gifs. I'd say it's a compliment.

That said when they get here (or after the game if they survive until the end), feel free to discuss it with them but I'm sure they meant no harm.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
In PR, we had a player pretend to be a different player each day. It was hilarious tbh.

But yeah, I don't think they were personally targeting you, they were just having a bit of fun. And they really like your gifs. I'd say it's a compliment.

That said when they get here (or after the game if they survive until the end), feel free to discuss it with them but I'm sure they meant no harm.
I guess it's just a strange feeling to have someone I've never played with before go digging through old games I've played so they can find gifs I've made and make references to those games in an attempt to impersonate me, and try to do it for more than one day as well. That's what I meant by "personally targeting."

Bleh, just a lot of stuff about this game got to me in some way. I hope it was just the costume stuff, because I do really want to play in Monkey's Twilight Zone game, but I also think I want to take a break soon and just try to not think about Mafia so much. I've played in or spectated every game since GoT, I could probably use a few weeks to just think about anything else instead.
 
Bleh, just a lot of stuff about this game got to me in some way. I hope it was just the costume stuff, because I do really want to play in Monkey's Twilight Zone game, but I also think I want to take a break soon and just try to not think about Mafia so much. I've played in or spectated every game since GoT, I could probably use a few weeks to just think about anything else instead.

sorry to hear that :(
 
I feel the same way. The game broke me in some weird way.

I had come up with a great gambit, but the continuous accusations just made me say, fuck it.

I even tried to breadcrumb... there was a gif that called me Sherlock... I responded with “your gif game is on point”.

Can’t believe they’re not even thinking I green-checked Claude. It’s so obvious.
 
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