Spectator Thread Twilight Zone Watch Party

heymonkey

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There is a leeeeetle bit of bastard to this game and it’s making these early moves amazing.
 

heymonkey

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Well, it's the Twilight Zone and so the game is designed to amp up paranoia. It's already working!
 

heymonkey

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I guess it is less that I, the mod, am lying to people, and more that there is a layer of unknown that can cause the game to change. I am very dedicated to theme when I design. :D
 

turmoil7

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I haven't watched TTZ either but I did watch the Maple Street one just to keep up with the flavour. I may seek a list of best episodes to watch, the short and self contained format is pretty convenient
 

heymonkey

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I haven't watched TTZ either but I did watch the Maple Street one just to keep up with the flavour. I may seek a list of best episodes to watch, the short and self contained format is pretty convenient
I really love the original show (and I'm SUPER STOKED about the new series coming). So many of the stories are familiar to us now - many have become tropes - but a bunch are still really thrilling and they offer a nice historical capsule, too. And it was a really interesting and progressive show (sometimes) for the times.
 

heymonkey

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Zeke is being masterful here - he's controlling everything, but it's only working because everyone is letting him.
 

turmoil7

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I think I would go for a Zeke policy lunch, I don't care if he turns to flip town, a little tired of the unnecessary claim meta
 

Natiko

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I think I would go for a Zeke policy lunch, I don't care if he turns to flip town, a little tired of the unnecessary claim meta
That's probably the kind of push that would instead get you voted out :P
 

Verelios

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Fireblend, my man
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I could see him getting set up.
 
Slight spoiler for my role:

I laid a breadcrumb for my role. All I'll say since this is early game. Kinda sad I had to sub out though because I feel it's the best breadcrumb yet. Since normally I'm bad at laying breadcrumbs lol
 
I almost regret subbing out since I'd have fought that lynch tooth and nail.

That said, I'm glad I did since besides still feeling like shit, things seemed to get aggressive there and I am just not in the mood for that.
 

heymonkey

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I almost regret subbing out since I'd have fought that lynch tooth and nail.

That said, I'm glad I did since besides still feeling like shit, things seemed to get aggressive there and I am just not in the mood for that.
Aw, Stu, I hope you take a turn for the better soon.
 

heymonkey

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Scum is currently discussing a possible lightning strike/god tier night kill. If they choose that, it would be wild. And it would be kind of accidental.
 
Scum is currently discussing a possible lightning strike/god tier night kill. If they choose that, it would be wild. And it would be kind of accidental.
Lightning strike? Sounds exciting!

I got a question about roles. A lot of time in madness roles don’t do much.

Was my role one of those or was I a counter?

Really like the flavor and twilight zone in general. I’m hoping for a wild ride
 

heymonkey

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Most of the roles in this game are designed to foster paranoia. Not a ton of direct actions/counters, but a lot of things that give vague or incomplete information to raise suspicion.
 

heymonkey

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Gonna put this here for later:

Scummies, please coordinate and share ideas. Y'all could be in a really great position here but you're not talking much. This is your advantage! use it!
 
Gonna put this here for later:

Scummies, please coordinate and share ideas. Y'all could be in a really great position here but you're not talking much. This is your advantage! use it!

One of the reason I love being scum is the scum chat. I just talk and talk and talk hahaha
 
Same here Stu! It’s my favorite part! And I’m hella more vocal in there in general because I don’t need to avoid silly townies saying “look zipped is all scummy”

Edit: also i’m Super excited to see how this first night ends up
 

heymonkey

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Scum team did not take the lighting-strike lucky action and instead did the worst thing they could lol.
 

heymonkey

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Also, for those who want it, a spoilery thing (reveals something about game design)

There is a hypnotist who sent a message to someone saying "you were investigated last night." Hilariously, that person was actually investigated last night by someone else.
 
Also, for those who want it, a spoilery thing (reveals something about game design)

There is a hypnotist who sent a message to someone saying "you were investigated last night." Hilariously, that person was actually investigated last night by someone else.

LOL
 
This looks fun, but I find Mafia already brings in enough paranoia. Don't know if I'd want more of that.
Imagine this being a costume game. D:
 

heymonkey

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Awww shucks...
They were going to target the doctor and then they changed their mind and targeted the same person as the doctor, but no one really discussed why or what to do or options!

I'll keep things in spoilers for a while but if anyone does want to be spoiled, let me know.
 
I have to caught up to the few posts of D2, but surprised no one died at night. Regarding early day one...

I don't trust Zeke one bit. Especially after what you said @heymonkey . That "well I claimed so we had something to discuss D1" is super weak reasoning; he's either a town hiding a better PR or mafia distracting everyone. Also, post #161,

EzekelRAGE said:
Meh, let’s remove the what ifs.

I am a neighbor.

I can currently post in another chat.

I don’t know the other person’s alignment. Only their flavor name.

Then #193:

EzekelRAGE said:
WhySoDevious said:
You know their flavor name, you mean, right? That's what you said in your claim.

That other person could claim to be any one of us. And if they could fake their style, you might even believe it.

Flavor and their actual forum name

I mean, it could be assumed he meant "the only extra thing I know..." but first time I read this it sounded contradictory. Like why would that be the first bit of info you share about your claim, it's kind of useless. Him only knowing a flavor name would either mean the chat had yet to be open, with him only knowing about the other poster from the PM, or the use of costume accounts here, which would be weird.

The discussion with FEP got a little heated but I'm inclined to believe him more. Thing is, by obsessing with that it bought time for Zeke to coast and only focus on that, barely contributing to other discussions.

Fantomas is super nice and all but something about him posting a lot and abruptly disappearing at EoD (although answering direct mentions, confirming he's at least following the conversation) is weird too. It could be the timezone though, not sure about that.

I also can't think of Fireblend as mafia.

Also, for those who want it, a spoilery thing (reveals something about game design)

There is a hypnotist who sent a message to someone saying "you were investigated last night." Hilariously, that person was actually investigated last night by someone else.

Just curious, does that mean that player got two notifications?

Edit: Wait, no, do you normally get a notification from actually being investigated?
 
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heymonkey

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I wish VA could spot my breadcrumb and realize that would be good to use if in danger of a lynch.
I am mildly curious to see what a new player will do with that role. It's hard. I only remember being in a game with one once - Pineapple Pizza, and luckily, I as a cop green-checked the role-haver. The proper move is probably to claim, and not right at EoD, but we'll see what happens.

The messenger sent saenima a message last night and now saenima is questioning him, lol. He doesn't get the references the messenger used.
 

Verelios

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Also, for those who want it, a spoilery thing (reveals something about game design)

There is a hypnotist who sent a message to someone saying "you were investigated last night." Hilariously, that person was actually investigated last night by someone else.
My god, that will be a delicious unraveling.
 

malus

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The urge to read the spoilers is strong.

But first I want to give some thoughts on the game to see if I'm on the right track (probably not).

I think the eod put a pretty bad light on Feps, Ynnek and LP. Those would currently be my top suspects.
However that one post where Zeke basically said "Discuss my scum reads, but definitely don't discuss Fantomas" was really, really strange. Would be a very ballsy move of scum to claim neighbors together, but I could see it happening. Also Zeke going for VA who seems to be an innocent child based on Stus bread crumb, is kind of suspect (but that is based on knowledge from outside the game). If those two are scum, I'm not sure who their partner would be, WSD maybe?

I think I would push Ynnek or LP towards the window now and if one of them turns out to be town, go for Zeke/Fantomas.

Kopite strikes me as neutral. He reminds me of my play when I was neutral and didn't pay that much attention to what was actually happening and just dropped in to state some reads on random people.
 
Yeah I want to reveal those spoilers too but prefer to wait a little longer to comment more and then laugh at my bad reads.
 
I think in these games, first impressions stick. No matter how well you do, there is a high chance, your first impression in D1 will stick with you and you may even be voted on for it with excuses that are basically confirmation bias' if anything.
 

heymonkey

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I agree re: first impressions. I hope it’s sometning we talk about in post-game. It’s apparent here so we have good examples.

I wonder if saenima will claim or just shrug.
 

heymonkey

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oh my GOD I'm just marking this for post game

And if y’all decide I may have a point and move to remove saenima, and they claim doctor?

I don’t believe them. And I would hope there would be a counterclaim because that would be a bad move.

...saenima IS the doctor and DID save weemadarthur last night. lolololololol
 

heymonkey

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I'll be glad when this day is over. Too much control by a few people, whatever their reasons/motivations, and too many people hanging on the sidelines. I think that's what happens when there's no visible night action.
 
I feel like I'd be defending Sae. I know this is with the benefit of knowing but god damned, their posts read sincere and more townie than scum to me. :(
 
Yup Sae is just trolling at this point. I guess he's tired of constantly defending himself. Although it seems Ynnek could be lunched instead of him today?

Agree about the first impressions thing, I'm still trying to find how to link Zeke to mafia but there's nothing concrete. I guess it's just me not liking him evading questions yesterday. What I'd love to ask him and Fanto is what do they think, from a game design perspective, is the permutation Dr. Monkey would have used; t/t, t/m, t/n, n/m, m/m or n/n (is that even possible? not sure if it's common to have neutrals). Of course m/m makes no sense since they have a chat already, but they could be lying and neighbors is just a safe role to claim. t/m or t/n sounds like the most fun, but then you don't know if the gamerunner decided to use t/t just to subvert expectations and play with the mentioned "paranoia".

What is clear is that they haven't antagonized each other yet, even with Zeke deciding to claim early and putting Fanto in what he described as an uncomfortable situation at EoD.

I'd love to know weemadarthur's role too (isn't she risking a NK?), but I'm not clicking these spoilers yet.
 
I feel like people with good PRs but are always easily suspected should just do the scum tactic of lay low. It seems to work well enough for scum.
 

heymonkey

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I really, really hope the scum team has more discussion tonight about things. My HOT TAKE:

Scum need to be "solving" the game as much as town, as in thinking about how to best use their powers, how to play people against each other, etc. They have more tools (and info!) than they realize here.
 

saenima

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Lol i just remembered that i wanted to share the message i got by PM with the thread before dying and i completely forgot. Could you tell me what that was all about @heymonkey? Put it in a spoiler if necessary.
 

heymonkey

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LOLOLOLOLOL the messenger is probably SO SAD that you didn't say anything

CaptainNuevo is the messenger and he was going to send to someone else first and then he decided to send to you. Same message. But I'm not sure you know he's obsessed with McDonald's Treasureland Adventure.
 

saenima

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They were going to target the doctor and then they changed their mind and targeted the same person as the doctor, but no one really discussed why or what to do or options!

I'll keep things in spoilers for a while but if anyone does want to be spoiled, let me know.

This knowledge gives me life.
 

saenima

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I feel like I'd be defending Sae. I know this is with the benefit of knowing but god damned, their posts read sincere and more townie than scum to me. :(

*hug

I hope you're feeling better Stu. I have sleeping problems as well and it sucks to be out of sync with everything at times.

LOLOLOLOLOL the messenger is probably SO SAD that you didn't say anything

CaptainNuevo is the messenger and he was going to send to someone else first and then he decided to send to you. Same message. But I'm not sure you know he's obsessed with McDonald's Treasureland Adventure.

I wish i had remembered :)
 
Just caught up, what a bad look for town. Even if it was just an honest mistake, Weemadarthur and Fireblend will probably be examined tomorrow after pushing so hard for that kill.

I'm sorry you had a bad time there Saenima, at some point I thought you'd just stop posting at all. It's what I'd probably do in that case.

After reading a bit of the shared doc it seems like neutral factions aren't that common, but I spotted at least one game in which one had three members. Thanks for sharing (and to Pedro for updating it, it's an impressively comprehensive spreadsheet).
 
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heymonkey

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@Pedro is the best.

I would say a lot of games have neutrals or it's at least assumed they will even if they don't. The numbers may not bear out but it FEELS common enough in the community.

There's no neutral in this one, though!
 
I hope you're feeling better Stu. I have sleeping problems as well and it sucks to be out of sync with everything at times.

I am! Actually just got done with a great 12 - 13 hour sleep after staying up all night (I was so tired I didn't stay til the end of the day but I was hoping town would see sense before I went to bed haha ;-;)
 

heymonkey

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Holy shit.

i don’t know why but Zeke is spinning a complete lie for Fanto. Saying someone gave him something during the day phase.
 
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