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Sorian

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Nah, it’s all talk like usual. I doubt this one ends up being the early death when there will be so much chaos in the game.
 

Sorian

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Narrator: Sorian would not actually be role claiming.
 

Sorian

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I mean, vanilla is a role but we are the same role, yes.
 

Sorian

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The people scum reading you are very much the type to only harp on you because you keep engaging back. You’d be better served ignoring/dropping it at this point and taking an offensive on someone you scum read that hasn’t been coming at you.
 
Yeah I figure. So far I'm not sure there's anything overly solid out there yet. I think scum is probably using the large roster to hide still.
 

Sorian

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Yeah I figure. So far I'm not sure there's anything overly solid out there yet. I think scum is probably using the large roster to hide still.

Likely. If I’m being real, there’s probably 1 scum somewhere in the big topics right now and the rest are hiding. I’m very conflicted on Stu/Monkey because I do think she is playing something odd here. I don’t actually have much from Stu but I’m using him more to see if Monkey reacts at all and it’s weird that she’s ignoring it all.
 
Monkey is my first instinct as well, but I'm not sure there's enough evidence there just yet. It just feels weird how they came in on the meme vote, doubled down, then kinda bolted. Could just be timezones messing with my perception, but my gut says there is something there. Either a PR or scum.
 

Sorian

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Curious to see if she admits she’s not reading the whole thread or not. She kind of says as much in that big post but not explicitly.

I’m a little curious about AB’s post. He doesn’t usually do a full read on everyone like that and I wonder if it was to compensate for Ty being so quiet again.
 
The team up nature of the game is going to change people's play style a bit I imagine.

Stan is engaging more than he usually does at this stage but it seems normal Stan so far. So I'm not sure what to make of it.
 
I think if Monkey flips and is scum then it was an early train. No way they'd give the game away this easy otherwise.
 

Sorian

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I think if Monkey flips and is scum then it was an early train. No way they'd give the game away this easy otherwise.

Only thing I can think of is that Stu imploded just a bit much, it doesn’t look like they are actually in danger of being flipped though so it doesn’t really matter. I don’t think they were ever actually worried whether town or scum.
 

Sorian

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The team up nature of the game is going to change people's play style a bit I imagine.

Stan is engaging more than he usually does at this stage but it seems normal Stan so far. So I'm not sure what to make of it.

As for this one, I think Stan is likely town at this stage. He hit his usual temper/bluster in a natural way which is all I really need to see early from him. His activity is kind of whatever, he’s different day to day in this regard and I’ve never seen a clear pattern.
 
That matches up with what I was thinking. We can put Stan as town for now I think.

You mentioned a breadcrumb? I'm currently catching up but want to clue me into which post?
 

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Mostly trying to piss people off which not shockingly worked on Stu. Bae keeps posting very obvious detective gifs which means she totally isn't the cop or is, it means nothing but I just wanted to throw out some vagueness to see what it stirred.
 
Yeah, I'm fine. Was just a small collision, need to replace the door but otherwise it's fine.

I'm not surprised Kits flipped town. Now I'm thinking about who I'd target if I were scum. What would you do here, if you were scum?
 

Sorian

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Yeah, I'm fine. Was just a small collision, need to replace the door but otherwise it's fine.

I'm not surprised Kits flipped town. Now I'm thinking about who I'd target if I were scum. What would you do here, if you were scum?

I’d probably avoid Bae at all costs, a doctor should be targeting there even if they don’t believe her. Hard to say past that. I do think there was at least one maybe two scum on the AB/Ty vote here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/lo...me-its-bearsonal.116855/page-34#post-20878292 add Kyan to that list too who got spooked off Bae’s claim but didn’t know where to vote. I think that vote was wrong too and scum had to have been propping it somewhere.
 
I kinda feel like Bae is full of it and is waiting to see if we latch onto scum today before saving them with that green check
 

Sorian

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I kinda feel like Bae is full of it and is waiting to see if we latch onto scum today before saving them with that green check

I don't think the play is that obvious and I don't even think it's scum yet specifically, but I do think she is still lying. It's better to just believe whatever check she has for now, it lowers the mental load for this early in the game and the lie will reveal on it's own in a few days anyway.
 
Sorry for being gone so long. I agree with your read on the chat stealers. Unless it was a couple of newbies teamed up, I can't really see how they wouldn't be scum. 0 information is gained from visiting Bae when they did.

Also, that whole big argument with Monkey and Stu was weird.
 

Sorian

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No worries and yeah now I think Monkey and Stu might be those gossips? They seemed to care way more than they should have about making those gossips look good. Natiko isn’t helping since now he seems to be bad faith arguing in the gossips favor too. I’d be real weird out if Natiko and Monkey are scum together again but both their boats feel real intent on undercutting the gossip is bad theory (and Terra is going hard on just undermining Bae in general).
 
Yeah, there's something weird about how defensive they are at the moment. If they aren't the gossips I'd probably say they know who is.
 

Sorian

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Yeah, there's something weird about how defensive they are at the moment. If they aren't the gossips I'd probably say they know who is.

I do wonder why Bae seems so intent on assuming they are town. I had one really wild theory that the gossips have one extra power in that they break up the lovers for the night when they steal too so if Malus had died Bae would have lived and vice versa but that feels a little too crazy for Bear to put in a game because it would effectively create a free innocent child (or an extra forced lynch if there’s a vigilante or something) and I don’t think that balances well.

There’s also just the obvious that Bae is just the scum in all this and she “knows” the gossips are town because they aren’t teamed up with her.
 

Sorian

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Wouldn't the gossips just die if they hit a scum? I've seen that as a limitation in prior games.

That won’t have anything to do with inherently being a gossip, that’s a specific modifier you can put on any role that targets (modifier is called weak). It’s actyally pretty rare to put that on a gossip because it turns them into a cop and lets them fully trust whoever they targeted meaning they could keep passing green checks to town freely in private and that third party could report the results to the thread while the gossip stays secret, I don’t think that’s the case here.
 
Bae could well be scum playing a gambit. Her insistence the kidnappers are town keeps getting to me.

As for Monkey, Brazil actually laid out some thoughts there that largely mirror what I had been collecting at the time. Monkey's play in this game has been, for lack of a better word, kinda lazy.

Fanto I'm having a harder time than usual getting a bead on. Usually Fanto is a super obvious townie, but now I'm thinking they might be scum and that's weird.
 
OK, so say both Bae and the kidnappers are town. What could possibly make her so confident in them? Short of receiving some kind of message from Bear saying so, I'd never be that confident in them. I'd at least breadcrumb it just in case.

Now to go off and look to see if she did that. I didn't see anything earlier, but I might have missed something.

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.
 

Sorian

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OK, so say both Bae and the kidnappers are town. What could possibly make her so confident in them? Short of receiving some kind of message from Bear saying so, I'd never be that confident in them. I'd at least breadcrumb it just in case.

Now to go off and look to see if she did that. I didn't see anything earlier, but I might have missed something.

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.

All it could really be is something more to their role, example like what I gave above, she was already town reading them from day 1 and the chat made her feel better about them, or the thieves are AB/Ty themselves (which would be a bit wild since from her story, that means malus happened to choose that team without knowing it, this is also unlikely because malus does not seem to think the thieves are cleared town based on what he posted earlier in the day). Past those situations, I can't think of much else, Bear wouldn't have messaged that in any way, seems too powerful.
 
I figured Bear wouldn't do that, but I just have a hard time figuring out why she's so adamant they're town. And why Monkey doesn't like me asking questions about it.

I think you might be right about Monkey's team being the thieves.
 

Sorian

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I figured Bear wouldn't do that, but I just have a hard time figuring out why she's so adamant they're town. And why Monkey doesn't like me asking questions about it.

I think you might be right about Monkey's team being the thieves.

Or at least knowing who they are (scum together with them being the obvious answer there).

We’ll get shit on for the rest of the day probably. Best case is Monkey gets lynched over us and we’re just fucked if they really are town (doubly so if they are town and not the gossips).
 
Looking more and more like we're the ones that are gone today.

I mean, they couldn't possibly be bad enough to give away 3 scum teams all at once could they?
 

Sorian

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No, a few on us have to be misguided town, we aren’t that important that they just expose so much for so little. That said there is still a slight chance of monkey, I keep seeing periphery posts saying they find Monkey scummier but no actual votes.
 
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