Pair Thread Dr. Monkey x Stuart444 Suite

[heymonkey]

I also think Sorian is scum. He's trying to direct the thread, not scum hunt, and spending more time trying to look good than anything else. The problem is that people pick up on narratives and repeat them without thought (like the people saying we were playing defense. like. what? I was out there working. come on now), which plays to his advantage. Watch that come back with the "concern trolling re: day end" post.

I'm voting B-Dubs to open the day, most likely.

I agree with you on the Ty-Ab thing and Sorian, too. I didn't support a Ty-Ab kill yesterday but there was also no reason to believe so firmly they were town.

 

[Stuart444]

Based on the way things went down yesterday, we'll be on the defensive since from experience, things always carry onto the next day unless the person(s) involved in whatever are NK'd.

 

[Stuart444]

I agree with you on the Ty-Ab thing and Sorian, too. I didn't support a Ty-Ab kill yesterday but there was also no reason to believe so firmly they were town.

I think I may bring this up depending on how day starts go because it SHOULD set up alarm bells by being so sure of something no townie can be sure of.

but day start could seriously shift how we do things depending on NKs and possible night action fuckery.

 

[heymonkey]

I will be out at day start, too. One of my friends is leaving tomorrow to head back to Poland and I'll be at her farewell shindig until a couple hours after day start. I may pop in on mobile but that's it.

 

[heymonkey]

What do you think of donna staying on Bae and malus? I figure you might have some insight there. (rac did, too. I want to check and see if he just didn't come back.)

 

[Stuart444]

I will be out at day start, too. One of my friends is leaving tomorrow to head back to Poland and I'll be at her farewell shindig until a couple hours after day start. I may pop in on mobile but that's it.

Hope you have fun!

What do you think of donna staying on Bae and malus? I figure you might have some insight there. (rac did, too. I want to check and see if he just didn't come back.)

Personally, if I know her, she probably was unsure of who to go for and so just put a vote on them and either didn't have time to change it when it was obvious what bae's PR was or forgot to change it.

Basically I think it's NAI. I don't think scum would stay on them either considering the way the day ended.

 

[Stuart444]

I also am not a fan (obviously) of Geno and Sparks votes on us.

The only two votes and Sparks didn't even seem to have a reason iirc outside of going with Geno's vote.

 

[Stuart444]

Looking at Sparks posts in the thread, there is zero substance there and just like "Lynch Dr Stu then Policy Lynch (wtf?) Chuggs"

 

[heymonkey]

I think expecting Sparks to have content is a mistake. I honestly would guess they are vanilla town. There is a small chance they might be scum but I doubt it. Geno's vote is troubling - that it never moved despite him making a few noises about others. If they're scum, it'll have to be Geno we analyze.

I'm working on a couple pre-typeds. Thanks for the insight on donna. I haven't played with her much if at all, but I've specced a bit when she was playing.

 

[Stuart444]

I think expecting Sparks to have content is a mistake. I honestly would guess they are vanilla town. There is a small chance they might be scum but I doubt it. Geno's vote is troubling - that it never moved despite him making a few noises about others. If they're scum, it'll have to be Geno we analyze.

I'm working on a couple pre-typeds. Thanks for the insight on donna. I haven't played with her much if at all, but I've specced a bit when she was playing.

I don't know much about Sparks tbf but yeah, Geno's vote is... yeah.

 

[Stuart444]

Anyway yeah, right now my biggest Scumread is Sorian.

My biggest town reads are:

SkyChuggs (gut feeling I guess but I strongly think they are town atm)
Rekibro (Not much from them but what has been there has been very strongly townie to me)
Kyonna (Similar to Rekibro, plus I've liked what I've seen from Kyan overall)

 

[heymonkey]

Fandorin's whole behavior in the last hours of the phase is WEIRD. He was clearly all in on the TyBro kill but then he started to get oddly reluctant but he wanted a vote shift off Kalor. Hmm. He never really talked about anyone else, so I assume he wanted people to swing back to Ty.

 

[heymonkey]

Anyway yeah, right now my biggest Scumread is Sorian.

My biggest town reads are:

SkyChuggs (gut feeling I guess but I strongly think they are town atm)
Rekibro (Not much from them but what has been there has been very strongly townie to me)
Kyonna (Similar to Rekibro, plus I've liked what I've seen from Kyan overall)

Oooh, I don't agree with Kyan - first half of the phase yes, but latter half I'm less keen on him, but he wouldn't be someone I'd target right away so if we make it another day we can compare notes. I agree on the others, though I would like to see Xbro doing a hell of a lot more.

 

[heymonkey]

@The Bear - I can't put my pretyped here so I can grab it easily on mobile later for posting on Era, can I? :( It would technically be quoting from here, yeah?

 

[heymonkey]

Re: Sorian, I think I'm going to grab a ton of Sorian posts and make a big mega post about him that no one will care about but me but it'll make me feel better for trying to demonstrate that he's trying to do the thing that was accused of me, just much more slyly.

 

[Stuart444]

Re: Sorian, I think I'm going to grab a ton of Sorian posts and make a big mega post about him that no one will care about but me but it'll make me feel better for trying to demonstrate that he's trying to do the thing that was accused of me, just much more slyly.

At the very least, it may (hopefully) help if and when we flip.

 

[The Bear]

@The Bear - I can't put my pretyped here so I can grab it easily on mobile later for posting on Era, can I? :( It would technically be quoting from here, yeah?

Not allowed.

 

[heymonkey]

oh well, was worth a try!

 

[Stuart444]

oh well, was worth a try!

Could always use the save draft function on era :P

 

[heymonkey]

does that work across platforms? I'll check! that's a great idea.

 

[Stuart444]

does that work across platforms? I'll check! that's a great idea.

I have no idea but it seemed like a good idea anyway XD

 

[heymonkey]

Flux actually tried to tie the vote.

 

[heymonkey]

It works!

 

[Stuart444]

Flux actually tried to tie the vote.

Is that important when the pair we voted out was town?

 

[heymonkey]

Is that important when the pair we voted out was town?

No, it’s just fucking weird.

 

[heymonkey]

I know Flux gonna Flux, but.

 

[heymonkey]

Like it could easily be scum posturing. But I’m not scumreading Brazil like some others are.

 

[Stuart444]

Like it could easily be scum posturing. But I’m not scumreading Brazil like some others are.

Brazil seems awfully quiet compared to what I would expect but he did seem rather townie near the end

 

[heymonkey]

I believe him when he say his schedule is spotty but we’ll see how he develops.

 

[Stuart444]

I believe people about any irl stuff, I just thought it was notable.

 

[Stuart444]

Today I fully expect Geno to be going for us again and Sorian to try and control the narrative while not really scum hunting.

 

[Stuart444]

wow. Fran/Fandorin dead.

 

[Stuart444]

At least we start off with some scrutiny on Sorian? haha

 

[Stuart444]

It feels like I upset Brazil for some reason with the way his posts are worded against me O.o

 

[Stuart444]

Geno's really getting to me now...

 

[Stuart444]

*breaths*

Anyway. I think I started off the day well. Hopefully something good comes out of this day phase.

 

[Stuart444]

Okay so Brazil seems to hate me 'shading' everyone despite the fact that I wasn't around at EOD and was trying to understand where people were coming from.

And Geno decides to try and rile me up on purpose.

I won't lie, if I was on my own, and not lovers, I would be tempted to post my pm for a mod kill just to shut him up.

 

[Stuart444]

CS' response to my question seems okay I guess but it's hard to trust if CS means that or if he's scum.

He's a hard one to read.

 

[Stuart444]

Working on Z-Beat may be easier than CS.

 

[Stuart444]

What did I start? Kinda wish I just ignored Geno's comment straight away and then maybe this argument wouldn't have started.

 

[heymonkey]

Why does Sorian just have to be such a jerk? He’s not a jerk normally but his tone is gross here. (I only read the vote posts.)

 

[heymonkey]

What did I start? Kinda wish I just ignored Geno's comment straight away and then maybe this argument wouldn't have started.

Ugh, what’s going on with him? I haven’t read. I’m still out.

 

[Stuart444]

Why does Sorian just have to be such a jerk? He’s not a jerk normally but his tone is gross here. (I only read the vote posts.)

Maybe because he is Scum and no one bats an eyelid at this kind of Sorian? haha

 

[Stuart444]

Ugh, what’s going on with him? I haven’t read. I’m still out.

Start with Brazil's comment and it's a few down from that.

 

[Stuart444]

You don't really need to respond or analyse anything, Stu is scum, we know that much, doing an analysis is a waste of time.

From this post onwards. and ends with:

Ok I'm out of here, I completed my 10 posts, might come back before day 3 or might not.

 

[heymonkey]

Oh my god if anyone listens to that, MAJOR side eye. Ignore his ass.

 

[Stuart444]

I meant what I said in the thread (for whenever you get around to reading it)

I am leaning town now on Vere from that post. Not just because it was big/a lot of effort but it also reads genuine and I can see his thought process.

 

[heymonkey]

I meant what I said in the thread (for whenever you get around to reading it)

I am leaning town now on Vere from that post. Not just because it was big/a lot of effort but it also reads genuine and I can see his thought process.

You meant which??? I just got home but Game of Thrones is soon so I'll be back after and I'll catch up then.

 

[heymonkey]

Also, I was mostly reading Vere as town. I can see a world in which he isn't, but right now, I feel better with him as town and I like Apollo's posts.

 

[Stuart444]

Might be the tiredness talking but I feel like I am so done with this shit haha. I'm just like w/e now.

 

[heymonkey]

Might be the tiredness talking but I feel like I am so done with this shit haha. I'm just like w/e now.

I'm here now, had to decompress after episode. People like Geno, at least, you should ignore. Sorian to a point also. I haven't seen what's happened yet today, though. I'm reading now.

 

[heymonkey]

heaving big sighs reading through the thread

 

[Stuart444]

heaving big sighs reading through the thread

Yup. *sigh*

 

[heymonkey]

I'm willing to offer a faux thunderdome between us and S-Dubs. Would you be averse?

 

[Stuart444]

I'm willing to offer a faux thunderdome between us and S-Dubs. Would you be averse?

Would be entertaining at least.

 

[Stuart444]

aka, I have no problem with that.

 

[heymonkey]

All right. Let me get my other posts out here done and we'll see how it goes.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm heading to bed so I'll see whats what when I wake up haha

 

[heymonkey]

goddammit, he's doing something sort of like scum-hunting today. thing is, I don't know if that actually means he's town or if he's just finding new ways to lead people around.

 

[heymonkey]

nope, never mind, I think he's scum.

 

[heymonkey]

I'm having hella trouble trying to sort people out into town/scum. The game feels big but we don't have time to sit on our hands since it's really just 17. Now 15. Guessing 3-4 scum teams, so we have a couple of phases, but not much wiggle room. And there are several teams who are just sort of floating around.

 

[Stuart444]

Only person I am convinced of is Sorian

I am still suspicious of Coolestbeat though.

I do wonder if perhaps Nat could be scum though.

Besides that, not sure. I am still firm in thinking Skychuggs are town though.

 

[heymonkey]

Me too re: SkyChuggs.

Firms for me are: SkyChuggs, Geno & Sparks, very probably Rincent. Which with Tybro and Pirate malus, and us, obvi, is not a bad town circle, except one piece (Geno and Sparks) is fucking about something awful. AbBro and SkyChuggs will put in some work, and maybe we'll see a Ty replacement soon.

 

[heymonkey]

After Geno flounced in the BRATTIEST way, I'm really amazed that anyone could sit on us/you, so Sorian is looking extra funny to me now.

 

[Stuart444]

After Geno flounced in the BRATTIEST way, I'm really amazed that anyone could sit on us/you, so Sorian is looking extra funny to me now.

You know as well as I do, it's hard to convince people otherwise when they have something firmly in their heads haha.

I'm surprised Brazil hasn't put a vote down on us tbh

 

[heymonkey]

Brazil always scumreads me, so I kinda am too, but I'm pretty sure he knows Sorian and we aren't scummates.

I wish we could workshop posts in here! My big one is almost done.

 

[heymonkey]

okay, I put up my screed on Sorian.

 

[Stuart444]

Sorian seems like he's on the defensiveness to your post now.

With his comments about this thieves chat as well, I am even more convinced he is scum.

 

[heymonkey]

I think it's 50/50 that if it's Rexbro they might not even have realized that they were going to lock Bae out of the chat. his certainty about things and his assumptions are driving me batty

 

[heymonkey]

yesssss let's tag team him into oblivion, I LOVE IT.

 

[Stuart444]

wow, that's rude of Sorian.

 

[heymonkey]

He's definitely being defensive.

 

[Stuart444]

lol 'bad faith acting'

not sure if I should even respond to that.

 

[Stuart444]

I get the feeling he doesn't like being questioned this much haha.

 

[heymonkey]

lol 'bad faith acting'

not sure if I should even respond to that.

You shouldn't, especially since Xbro said it's not them. Let's target him when it's meaningful.

 

[Stuart444]

So on the assumption that Sorian is scum:

He wants to out/get the Chat Thieves (IF they are town) because... he/other scum would lose access to scum coordination.

That's my current theory.

 

[heymonkey]

So on the assumption that Sorian is scum:

He wants to out/get the Chat Thieves (IF they are town) because... he/other scum would lose access to scum coordination.

That's my current theory.

I do wonder if he would be so obvious but it's a possibility. I'm almost never certain with Sorian.

 

[Stuart444]

I do wonder if he would be so obvious but it's a possibility. I'm almost never certain with Sorian.

Sorian I feel knows he can be as obvious as he wants without being voted by the majority of people.

Plus he probably has some big gambit PR claim ready should the tide shifts in his direction.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm sort of mixed on Terra/Nat right now.

idk why but reading Terra's posts right now is making me go "hmm"

 

[heymonkey]

I'm not really feeling Terra/Nat if Sorian is scum. Possibly Fanto/Zipped, though.

 

[heymonkey]

I'm gonna take a short break and then I will go back to my big post on Sorian and his response.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm not really feeling Terra/Nat if Sorian is scum. Possibly Fanto/Zipped, though.

Like I said, it's just a feeling right now, Sorian is my only STRONG feeling right now.

I can't remember much from Zipped tbh.

 

[Stuart444]

Oh Sorian is being very sly now about this chat thing.

 

[Stuart444]

Well that was an interesting discussion over a PR whom we don't even know who used the PR.

 

[Stuart444]

I feel like Sorian is implying that we are the chat thieves with the "Sorry I blamed Reki" thing lol.

 

[heymonkey]

I wish we were, that would be awesome.

 

[Stuart444]

I wish we were, that would be awesome.

not gonna lie

if we were, I'd take Sorian tonight just to toy with him.

 

[heymonkey]

oh, most definitely

 

[Stuart444]

Ehh. I can't comment on that. I personally put great emphasis on the karma line myself and that made me commit to giving her the night to see if she can prove herself today.

am I overthinking this or is this Kyan softing the chat thieves role?

 

[heymonkey]

am I overthinking this or is this Kyan softing the chat thieves role?

It's possible.

What do you want to bet someone fixates on me saying our chat is busy like it's some kind of forced scum cover?

 

[Stuart444]

It's possible.

What do you want to bet someone fixates on me saying our chat is busy like it's some kind of forced scum cover?

I wouldn't be surprised tbh.

 

[heymonkey]

B-Dubs long awaited post is just repetition and summary.

 

[Stuart444]

Yup.

 

[Stuart444]

It does feel like Sorian is going to get through this phase again right now

but I also don't know who is likely to be lunched. No real indicator right now.

Wish we had a TD power to use haha

 

[Stuart444]

Fluxs post is ringing alarm bells to me right now.

 

[heymonkey]

Fluxs post is ringing alarm bells to me right now.

I don't know what to make of Flux.

Terra reads super town to me. Natiko is ????????

 

[heymonkey]

lol Sorian
"Flux I see you so I'm performing but it probably doesn't meant anything okay byeeeeee"

 

[heymonkey]

I think you're right about Kyan and donna. Donna kept her vote on purpose on Bae and malus but with her reads, she switched.

here's what she said:
Pirate Bae & Malus: Our claimed cops, whom green checked the tybro team. I believe in them and their claim.

 

[heymonkey]

==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start

Sorian & B-Dubs (2 votes)
Stuart444 - #1,860
Terraforce - #1,963

Natiko & Terraforce (1 votes)
Fantomas - #1,995

Stuart444 & Dr. Monkey (1 votes)
Geno - #1,782
Sorian - #1,826 #2,134

Reki & Xbro (1 votes)
Sorian - #2,134

CoolestSpot & Z-Beat (0 votes)
Stuart444 - #1,787 #1,860

absolutbro & Ty4on (0 votes)
Natiko - #1,778 #2,089

Not voting: FluxWaveZ, CoolestSpot, Xbro, B-Dubs, empressdonna, flatearthpandas, Reki, absolutbro, Vincent Alexander, Ty4on, Dr. Monkey, Kyanrute, Brazil, Funky Dude Sparks, Verelios, TheChuggernaut, rac, Apollo, SkyOdin, Pirate Bae, Stantastic, Z-Beat, Zippedpinhead, malus, Natiko

Post Counts:
Sorian: 53 Stuart444: 49 Dr. Monkey: 45 Fantomas: 39 Terraforce: 27 Natiko: 24 TheChuggernaut: 23 CoolestSpot: 23 Pirate Bae: 21 Z-Beat: 20 Kyanrute: 14 Brazil: 14 rac: 14 Vincent Alexander: 14 flatearthpandas: 11 Geno: 11 absolutbro: 10 FluxWaveZ: 9 Funky Dude Sparks: 9 Apollo: 7 Verelios: 7 SkyOdin: 6 empressdonna: 5 Xbro: 4 malus: 3 Stantastic: 3 Reki: 2 B-Dubs: 2 Zippedpinhead: 2

Current Countdown:

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

 

[heymonkey]

Sorian: 53 Stuart444: 49 Dr. Monkey: 45 Fantomas: 39 Terraforce: 27 Natiko: 24 TheChuggernaut: 23 CoolestSpot: 23 Pirate Bae: 21 Z-Beat: 20 Kyanrute: 14 Brazil: 14 rac: 14Vincent Alexander: 14 flatearthpandas: 11 Geno: 11 absolutbro: 10 FluxWaveZ: 9 Funky Dude Sparks: 9 Apollo: 7 Verelios: 7 SkyOdin: 6 empressdonna: 5 Xbro: 4 malus: 3Stantastic: 3 Reki: 2 B-Dubs: 2 Zippedpinhead: 2

huh? I know B-Dubs posted more than twice. I've got him at four. Just kinda wanted to see if anyone hadn't posted at all yet and how low some of them were.