Pair Thread rac & Vincent Alexander Suite

[rac]

i almost want to track monkey but i don't know if it's just paranoia or not

ill explain best i can when i get the time, imma be p busy the tonight and tomorrow

 

[rac]

also we fucking did it!

and on a scum lunch too, good job dude
but we have to be 100% dead tonight though

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Monkey might not be a bad choice...Because Monkey is felt so strongly to be a town now that if we accidentally let her free and she is scum, we're fucked. If we can get any kind of semblance of confirmation, that would go a long way to helping town. Vere sounds like he is probably dead one way or other.

 

[rac]

just thinking about it what was the best play for scum day 3

monkey soloing in on sorian d2 allows bae to get their final check
then when suspicion is at there highest she can finally bus bae because the shots are gone
if it doesn't work people just lunch her and she flips scum and makes bae look a lot better

i was gonna post this in the thread but i was afraid to shake anything up
this could all just be paranoia though so let me know

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Yeah. That is just the right amount of paranoid for me. I can absolutely see that happening, and honestly, it would help make the game make more sense because I had Fanto, Bae, and Monkey at top of scum list. I feel really great about Fanto now, but if Monkey were ALSO town, then I'm really lost who the hell the rest of the scum team is. I like the idea of tracking Monkey to get some more confidence one way or other about her.

Now...for our guess....gotta be Vere, right? It feels like it was decided before this last day even ended that if Bae flipped scum, he was next.

 

[rac]

is it possible that donna/kyan are scum?

maybe the reason bae could still read chat was because she want actually kidnapped

ok this is too much paranoia

i think the choices should be monkey, vere or fanto

 

[Vincent Alexander]

We still have time to change before these lock, but putting them in now so we don't forget just in case:

GUESS: Verelios and Apollo

TRACK: Dr. Monkey

 

[rac]

holy shit i didn't even realize that we could still guess

been out of it this weekend

 

[rac]

kinda second guessing myself on the monkey track

im not sure about anything really

 

[rac]

i just feel like there has to be some scum that were town reading us because it would have been p dangerous to scum read us after being on pirate malus every day

 

[rac]

who ever we track how do you wanna play it?

do you wanna just scum read them to get reactions or go ahead and just claim

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I like your idea of Monkey because they went from high suspect to clear and home free. If we can track and get a little more confidence on them, I am 100% for.

If we don't find them doing anything over night, I say we keep our mouths closed because they could still be scum that simply didnt move overnight, and I don't want to give them an even easier pass if so. Maybe if the situation arises we will? But play it by ear. And if we do catch them moving at night, I am fine claiming real quick.

 

[rac]

the only thing about claiming with the doctor gone we would we just be dead if we could somehow just push the lunch instead there would be a possibility we live

that is if we aren't dead already

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I agree, which is why I think if we claim we need to make sure to do it when we're giving the town some really solid info, like "Oh, hey...we tracked Monkey, who went to Doug's house. And Doug died last night." kind of a thing.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Because once we do claim, we're dead. If, like you said, we aren't dead already tonight.

In my opinion, scum goes over you and I or Fanto and Zipped.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

OR if Vere isn't scum, they kill Vere because that will drive paranoia through the roof.

 

[The Bear]

TRACK results:

Your targeted pair did not visit anyone.

 

[rac]

well shit

 

[Vincent Alexander]

It's all good. Like I said...we aren't for sure Monkey is town. But...helps with paranoia about her and Stu at least. There is no way Vere isn't getting lunched today, so we'll surely get another ability.

 

[rac]

hey can you give me a summary about vere

after losing my number one and only scum read im feeling p lost here

 

[rac]

think were about to come to a tough discussion for what town should do next
do we ever reveal that monkey stu didn't move last night?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I think Vere and Apollo just claimed celebrity. So town is about to mass claim...hope you're good with that.

Is there such thing as a one use tracker? If so, I am not against lying and claiming that as PR. Scum wont see us as threat and might save us a few nights lunch.

 

[rac]

ok but how do we explain why we didnt just track pirate malus?

 

[rac]

also i probably already said when pirate bae claimed that you always lie about how many shots you have

 

[rac]

also we probably wont get another power for a few nights so lying might just do more harm than good

 

[rac]

ive never claimed anything before so its your call

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Hrm...I don't see such thing as X use tracker anywhere.....that lie won't work.

We either tell truth about bookie bear, claim vanilla, or claim another fake PR.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Hrm. That is a good point. With our guess on Vere, if we believe celebrity claim, that will save him this night...our odds go down of getting another power.

Fuck it. I say we just be honest. But we go last in reveal.

 

[rac]

think just telling the truth is the safest option for us and town honestly

 

[rac]

i agree

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Blah...we're definitely going to be next night kill. We're the only power that is an active "threat" at this point.

 

[rac]

yeah but there is a 100% confirmed town and then whatever fanto is

we gonna share our guesses and everything as well?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Yeah, might as well.

 

[rac]

if your not here and i have to claim imma say this:

we are bookie bears
we guess who will get lunched and if we are right we receive a power

n1: guessed malus bae
n2: guessed malus bae
got one shot tracker
n3: guessed verello, tracked monkey stu
monkey stu did not visit anyone

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Sorry. I am idiot and almost got us modkilled. I need to not do dumb things....

 

[rac]

no worries, i like dying in mafia

it's just scum loves to strong me along it seems

 

[rac]

string me along*

 

[Vincent Alexander]

lol. Glad to hear. I was just afraid I was going to hurt Absolut's game/fun by breaking a rule like an idiot, so I thought I'd take a bullet if need be so I didn't harm his game.

I can't believe all this tracking going on and not finding anyway. That is crazy...Wonder if Bears got a Ninja Bear or something.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Absolu is reminding me so much of how he was in last scum game I played with him. Quick, short posts. Not responding to accusations much. Riding the wave, trying to skate by. It's either Reki/Xbro or Absolut/Fat. And I can't help but feel in my gut that it is Absolut.

 

[rac]

ok ill follow you because i havent really read at all the past days
i could be totally wrong but i dont think its reki

 

[Vincent Alexander]

ok ill follow you because i havent really read at all the past days
i could be totally wrong but i dont think its reki

I'm going to stay on Absolut then. Reki is really challenging me because I read scum so much, but reminds me so much of myself in my first games. Types a ton, overexplains, floundering. But I've never been scum, so I don't know if I'd be doing the same as scum as well.

There is just something in my gut screaming about Absolut....

 

[rac]

well that wasn't great, couldn't ask what to guess and what not

for lunch id guess chugg or natiko

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I don't get upset about games much, but I'm pretty pissed at Reki for doing that. Holy smokes, that was dumb and only hurt town.

For guess, SURELY folks will go in on Absolut next, right? Multiple folks argued that if Reki flipped town, it would be Absolut, right? I know at least 2 other teams did.

I dunno. Lemme get a clear head and ponder.

 

[rac]

is gonna be tough to guess because there isn't a clear nk, probably fanto

 

[rac]

my order for guesses would be chugg>natiko>fat

 

[Vincent Alexander]

What makes you think Chugg or Nat have a better chance of getting lunched ?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Since I've been more pushy on the last few, I'll let you lead the charge on this one. Whoever you feel best about guessing, let's go for it.

 

[rac]

skychugg - two town chat roles, has been throwing shade at monkey and us a lot in the past

natiko - scum has been getting rid of strong players in there nk, why is terranat still alive

i like you taking the guesses though, plus i feel like you have a better grasp of the game at this point

also concerning fat, there's never been a good reason for scum to nk them, they knew the check would come into scrutiny after bae flip and they were never a threat because they haven't been the biggest posters

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I'm in agreement that SkyChugg Nat/Ter could be scum. I just don't see a push on them. Here is why I'm thinking we'll have a better chance of getting a power from Absolut/Fat lunch guess.

Morning. I just got here and got caught up. I intend to vote Reki/Xbro, I am just unsure if moving my vote would turbo us at the moment.

Last night I pointed out that stuff with malus getting nervous about tge double on Tybro, but I feel like I need a little more information before I commit to an absolutebro flip. It is really hard to read them with the circumstances surrounding that team. I figure another scum flip first woud give a new angle to approach Abs from.

And I am feeling fairly confident that scum flip is Xbro/Reki.

Sky is feeling Xbro/Reki, thinking it will shed light on Abs. With them now flipped town, I'm confident Sky is going after Abs.

From FEP:

I think they're scum?

We learn more from fatabs imo. Gonna go to bed soon so I can be up for day end, gonna leave my vote where it is for now

And Fanto:

In the event of a Reki/Xbro Scum flip, I still think FEPs/Stan are a possible candidate for a teammate, maybe SkyChugg if there is another one. I would also think it's possible for Natiko/Terra to be in that world, Monkey looks a lot better though. I do not think AB/Fat would be Scum with them.


In the event of a Reki/Xbro Town flip, I would start to look into the AB/Fat "fake green check" Scum world more. FEPs/Stan can possibly still fit in there, SkyChuggs as well, but probably only one of the two. Monkey is a possible final teammate there if there is another, Natiko would be basically cleared though.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I'm pretty sure there are more, but at work and can't keep digging at the moment. lol.

 

[rac]

hmm, do you think absfat is scum?

because if your not comfortable voting there there should be a counter wagon worth voting for, hopefully someone we think is scum

who do you have as your top reads?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Right now, Abs is my top. Kind of paranoid mixed with gut, especially now with that town flip. I suspect he is the ninja because of how many people that had him as scum were dead by Day 2 (4 of them). Bae/Malus greenchecking him gives him time to get off his ninja shots, and also let her get off her 2 shots as well.

I honestly don't have a counter yet. I'll have to come up with a 2nd when the day starts, if we live.

 

[rac]

ok i feel fine with guessing there then

 

[Vincent Alexander]

GUESS: Absolutbro

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Also, if we die tonight, it was good playin with ya.