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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also this is something I just realized:

Let's say we had targeted the target of the Night Kill and gotten no movement...

We can then confirm to Town that a Ninja did the kill, right?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I can see a 2-1 LyLo coming down to us, the Messengers, and one of the Vanilla pairs.

I don't think there's a case to be made for keeping any of the other PRs alive over us if there really is a Ninja. The only case would be on playstyle reasons really, I am very talkative and open-minded and you are pretty solvey and determined in the end-game, but then why keep us alive over Confirmed Town in Vere/Apollo or basically Confirmed Town in LP/Coolest and Kyan/Donna when there are always going to be people talking about us as possible Scum now?

If we do kill a Ninja in this game though, the remaining Scum will certainly have a pre-typed NK on us ready to go lol.

I think we should almost always get a Scum flip before LyLo though while targeting in the Vanillas. After that is when I'm open to thinking about SkyChugg more maybe if we can draw some connections there, or if there is any weirdness in connection to them and the "Vanilla" that ends up flipping Scum that we can examine more closely.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I suppose since I am likely getting taken by the Gossips tonight since Kyan is convinced we are Scum with AB, we should probably have our target figured out already.

Probably best still to target the Vanillas. So, if AB does get taken out today, the only Vanilla we haven't yet targeted is Natiko/Terra.

That would be my suggestion.
 
I’m ok with Natiko/terra,

But like you said scum may kill the confirmed townies. If that is the case we can prove there is a ninja to us and the gossips.

So if you can come up with a more likely “confirmed townie” NK target from scum, target them. Otherwise Natiko/terra
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh and thank you for carrying this team.

I really mean it you are putting in good work
Aww thanks haha, no problem, I can't help but put in a ridiculous amount of effort to these games, it's quickly become one of my favorite games of all time out of no where lol.

And then yeah, I'll think about that, at this point it just seems so likely it's a Ninja anyways, but with two Vanillas we haven't targeted yet we could still possibly get Movement there too so I think that's probably for the best still for now, in case we just haven't targeted the Scum doing the kills yet, though I feel like we would have died if that was the case, but whatever.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The way I'm seeing things right now, is that an AB town flip at this point basically confirms to me that Scum is in Nat/Terra and Sky/Chugg based on D1 votes alone. Possible on FEPs/Stan still in that case, but I would doubt it more I think.

If AB flips Scum it's impossible to deny that FEPs was hard defending him today in a dire game state for Scum. Monkey/Stu vote behavior around there is suspect as well after going for him on D4.

I think that's why I would lean to the AB flip at this moment, there is a good amount of stuff surrounding him at this point beyond just the "fake green check" angle.
 
I’m taking a look at interactions between pirate bae (and then Malus) with players that are still alive.

So far, I have seen exactly one interaction between Bae and Terraforce.

One. But at the same point she has interacted a ton with Natiko.

Only one with Apollo,


No interactions at all with coolestspot.

Lots with dr monkey, Not so much with Stuart

I just feel like something is there
 
Does she ever talk to sky/chuggs? I’ll take a look next.

Reason I’m looking is because it’s hard to interact genuinely in two locations with the same people on the same subject. So most people limit their interaction. It’s easy in the early days when there are lots of people, and by the end different scum have different play styles to increase interaction and give leans for town points.

So those early days who doesn’t talk to whom when they were posting all the time (like pirate bae)

Hell a couple of times when I am scum I specifically outlined conversations to have in thread with certain people just to make it appear we weren’t on the same team
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hell a couple of times when I am scum I specifically outlined conversations to have in thread with certain people just to make it appear we weren’t on the same team
Yeah, me and Nin literally did exactly this in Conspiracy lol. We would script out conversations to have where he would pretend to scum read me and bring up reasons why, then I would defend myself, and he would back off lol.

But also yeah, good idea to look into this stuff for that.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm not sold on it today unfortunately lol but I love the enthusiasm and I'm always in for JOAT theories lol.
 
Hey with the doublevote spent, coolest is essentially vanilla now. Does that change how we want to spend our MD tonight?

Sorry to get hung up on them, just trying to feel put the end of day
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I could see us checking there after we've checked Nat/Terra for sure, yeah. Because unclaimed movement there would blow the game wide open.
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Fantomas seems to have been stolen by mysterious forces..

Who knows, maybe they will return after this night phase.
 
At least the gossips are honest. Maybe we live maybe not.

Glad we caught scum this day phase.


Still think it’s coolest though...
 
Just in a boat with ma thoughts...

Been thinking about the end of day, and who bussed who. I think we die tonight (ninja not unlimited shot means to me that we serve a legit purpose now.).

But if we don’t I gotta think about how that day flew.

Almost everyone scum read AB and AB largely took the game on the chin. And he was scum.

It’s possible we have two more scum teams. But I doubt it.
 
I really do think coolest could be scum, and if they are last scum we could have literally anyone dead tonight.

If it’s Natiko’s Team or monkey’s team I think it’s in their best interest to lynch us, gossips, or the celebs.

Eliminate a team that is largely town read and had an ability. Leave the vanilla’s out there.
 
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