Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite

How many town do we need to off, and how many nights can we ideally take to win? As in, what's the quickest way we can pop some heads.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
Sorry. I’m not having a good mental health day. Have no way to deal with it so I’m lashing out at everyone. Not an excuse, I know. Just being honest.

Coolest I need you to know that that honestly kind of pissed me off and wasn’t cool.

I’ll drop it now. Be back eventually.
 
Sorry. I’m not having a good mental health day. Have no way to deal with it so I’m lashing out at everyone. Not an excuse, I know. Just being honest.

Coolest I need you to know that that honestly kind of pissed me off and wasn’t cool.
I’ll drop it now. Be back eventually.
I didn't see your post! I didn't see it then! It was a simple pirate pun!!

I'm so sorry.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
How many town do we need to off, and how many nights can we ideally take to win? As in, what's the quickest way we can pop some heads.
We need three townies voted out:
SkyChugg
Verello
??? (stan/FEP, rexbro?)

Is probably our path to victory.

Sorry. I’m not having a good mental health day. Have no way to deal with it so I’m lashing out at everyone. Not an excuse, I know. Just being honest.

Coolest I need you to know that that honestly kind of pissed me off and wasn’t cool.

I’ll drop it now. Be back eventually.
Take all the time you need :(
 
Wonder if Baelus claiming they were full cop could do them any good. Not the best idea, but they don't have much wiggle room as is with everyone on their ass.
 
Also damn, just caught up to the thread where Bae lashed out. Glad that it sounds like you took a step back from the screen, and hopefully you calm down and feel better. It's easy to get emotionally invested or frustrated in games like this. Just take your time and you can replace out if worst comes to worst.
 
Also what the heck CS. You really took MY OWN post from this thread into the main thread??? Jesus man, this isn't the time to be bussing outside of Baelus. The rest of us were fairly in the clear up till now. Fanto was literally the only one who suspected us.
 
Also what the heck CS. You really took MY OWN post from this thread into the main thread??? Jesus man, this isn't the time to be bussing outside of Baelus. The rest of us were fairly in the clear up till now. Fanto was literally the only one who suspected us.
Eh, it's not even bussing you, I think no one really is looking at you. Being open to the possibility of everyone and clearing up minor inconsistencies helps us seem town.
 
Eh, it's not even bussing you, I think no one really is looking at you. Being open to the possibility of everyone and clearing up minor inconsistencies helps us seem town.
Yeah my bad for lashing out so hard, but that was frustrating you see almost copy my post here beat for beat. But luckily literally no one saw that post it seems, and I;m not touching it with a ten foot pole until someone else brings it up again.

But it would totally be bussing if anyone actually looked into it now that you laid it out so plainly. I'm just lucky most people are town reading me so they likely didn't even notice.
 
Yeah my bad for lashing out so hard, but that was frustrating you see almost copy my post here beat for beat. But luckily literally no one saw that post it seems, and I;m not touching it with a ten foot pole until someone else brings it up again.

But it would totally be bussing if anyone actually looked into it now that you laid it out so plainly. I'm just lucky most people are town reading me so they likely didn't even notice.
The thing about mafia is, you can put it out in front of someone, but most of the time because it's in front of them that can't be the truth to them.
 
Sorry that came off as I know all or some shit, I more meant thats the logic I'm playing off of. I'm also usually ignored when proven town so eh.
 
The thing about mafia is, you can put it out in front of someone, but most of the time because it's in front of them that can't be the truth to them.
Yeah of course, but when you're playing with players with enough experience they'll often fact check because lazily making comments is a pretty general scum tell. I know if I scumread someone and there was a bus like that on my scum read I would have noticed it. Luckily it passed Fanto and no one else really scum reads me, which I think plays more of a role into why it bypassed everyone more so than it being about people overlooking it for some other reason.
 
I guess I'd say "yeah" but to an extent is essentially what I'm saying. Linking someone directly to multiple weird lynches isn't a good look if anyone bothers taking the time to analyze them. Though I've noticed the Mafiera community often puts less weight into rereading votes from prior days, so that's good for us I guess.
 
Yeah in hindsight and time off and coming back, it was probably a dumbass move and I wasn't risking myself but a fellow scum member. Sorry Terra, it seems I'm an ass to play with. I need to work on not being a solo jerkwad during these games.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Either way we all must must must remember if we get gossiped to not say we can see chat. I feel like we shouldn’t let the gossip live more than one additional night or so.
 
I mean, if that's an intentional choice by Bear then it's unfortunate for us. If it's just a mistake, I feel like it's going to sway the game one way or another.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
There’s always the chance it was a legitimate mistake. If so Bear should at least be able to confirm that. It would be really fucked up if it was unintentional and he won’t acknowledge the mistake.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
LmvRSOB.gif
 
I keep forgetting half of you are scum, and am shocked cause you are pretty decent town players convincing me as you gaslight the town players in what to do.

Thank god I'm not town this game.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
That's some bullshit mechanic with no way to anticipate it. At least we served some fine wine...
Sorry I couldn't support you more in the whole claim fiasco dragon mom.

Also I guess removing Monkey asap will be your best bet going forward.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
malus said:
Now before you all break your neck from patting yourself on the back, why would the gossip mechanic work differently for scum and town? The only explanation for this discrepancy I can come up with is if the gossips can choose what exactly happens to the gossipee. I don't see why scum!Geno would lie about this if he would be inevitably lunched tomorrow, but if the gossips can choose the restriction that would sow some mighty distrust once it is revealed.

The only other option I see is if the doctor interferes with the gossip, but that seems a bit too bastard.

With that said
vote: Kyanrute
That was the most bullshit post I ever posted anywhere, please just turbo.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
That's some bullshit mechanic with no way to anticipate it. At least we served some fine wine...
Sorry I couldn't support you more in the whole claim fiasco dragon mom.

Also I guess removing Monkey asap will be your best bet going forward.
You didn’t do anything wrong, don’t feel guilty. Really glad you’re my partner. <3
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Yeah I thought about it when I first came into the thread yesterday, but stupid me decided against it anyway, since I figured there would be more contention.

Anyway you guys should be well off after that. It looks like you're pretty commonly town read.
 
Welp, it's done. Just have to make it through these next few days. Fatbro and CS have a lot going their way, and I'm mostly town read so in theory we should be definitely fine until after a Vere drops dead. SkyChuggs and XReki are also good potential mislynches.

Right now I'm feeling block Monkey, Kill Fanto. Fanto is the main one against me and Nat, and she pointed out that Vere looks scummy after all his talk towards EoD, so we could pin the blame on him. Plus Fanto is one of the more talkative players, and by killing town's activity we can slow down the game to a grinding halt.

That gif is great.

Sorry for being more AFK than usual but I'll try to catch up tonight. It should be 48 hours right?
Yepper. Well, I dunno if Bear will make it exactly 48 hours from now or when we were supposed to end. I don't recall how you guys deal with reaching an early majority in this community.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don't think there's any real point to blocking Dr. Monkey unless there's something that popped up since last night that I haven't read. We blocked her N1 and if she had something that can be blocked she likely would have turned on Bae sooner right (since it would mean a blocker exists and opted to not target Bae)?

I'm okay with getting rid of Fantohead though. I could see us maybe waiting one phase before going for the active boats, but I won't make a big stink out of it. I kind of wonder if rac/VA are the trackers - would explain why he was so determined Bae was lying if he tracked her to a different target than she claimed. Dunno.
 
Side note, but damn this blows because we were doing so well, but I may need to replace out if this isn't over in a week. I was hoping we'd be done or close to it by then, but I have a family vacation starting next friday. it's particularly an issue because it's a cruise, so internet access is going to be super limited for us so i wouldnt be able to do much of anything.
 
I don't think there's any real point to blocking Dr. Monkey unless there's something that popped up since last night that I haven't read. We blocked her N1 and if she had something that can be blocked she likely would have turned on Bae sooner right (since it would mean a blocker exists and opted to not target Bae)?

I'm okay with getting rid of Fantohead though. I could see us maybe waiting one phase before going for the active boats, but I won't make a big stink out of it. I kind of wonder if rac/VA are the trackers - would explain why he was so determined Bae was lying if he tracked her to a different target than she claimed. Dunno.
That's fair. I'm guessing Dr. Stu is just nilla, so it couldn't hurt to try elsewhere.
 
Fep. Block Fep. I will try to find the post, but he said something that in my read made me positive that he was the town watcher.

also I'm really sorry for not being around. I hope to be more active next day phase. My remaining dog is not taking the loss of my girl very well, and so we're looking at getting another dog probably a little sooner than I wanted to. But he really needs a friend, he's never been an only dog and he's 7ish now.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Side note, but damn this blows because we were doing so well, but I may need to replace out if this isn't over in a week. I was hoping we'd be done or close to it by then, but I have a family vacation starting next friday. it's particularly an issue because it's a cruise, so internet access is going to be super limited for us so i wouldnt be able to do much of anything.
Boat buddy :(
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Fep. Block Fep. I will try to find the post, but he said something that in my read made me positive that he was the town watcher.

also I'm really sorry for not being around. I hope to be more active next day phase. My remaining dog is not taking the loss of my girl very well, and so we're looking at getting another dog probably a little sooner than I wanted to. But he really needs a friend, he's never been an only dog and he's 7ish now.
Take care of what you need to - no worries.

What if we block FEP and kill rac/VA? Unless suddenly people were turning on rac/VA in the stuff I haven’t read yet. Then every night after that we just kill the active boats (Fantohead then Dr. Stu if not voted out by then)
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh I forgot about Kyonna as well. They’re basically confirmed town too. May be good to get rid of them before they can cause too much chaos so slot them in somewhere
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Would really love some more thoughts. Here’s where I’m at:

Kinda want to eliminate Kyonna due to the role being disruptive and it being mechanically impossible really for them to be scum/scum with Bae.

Wouldn’t mind a Geno/Sparks kill eventually but they’re not super active so I could see waiting. I’m not sure if it’s worth killing active players yet when they’re all convinced on the wrong targets.

Another idea I want feedback on: I think it’s very likely the only town PR left to worry about is tracker/watcher. Maybe we should just not block to avoid increasing chances of being seen moving? If it’s a tracker neither of our other boats are likely to be tracked. Watcher is a little dicier but even then we have a decent chance of our kill move not being seen.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kind of thinking kill order wise:

Kyonna
Fantohead
Geno/Sparks
Dr. Stu or Rac/VA just depending on who is alive
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
Geno is a good pick

Getting Dr. Monkey out of the way would help as well, getting rid of the more active towns can breed inactivity and malaise.

Then we can become the more talkative ‘Town’, and drive the day conversations.
 
Dr. Monkey or Geno would be my pick. We know Kyonna's power and can avoid that particular pitfall. We don't know who the motion detector is, so I think we're better off searching for that with the remaining abilities. (Block and/or kill)
 
And yeah, we don't really need to use the block at this point if we don't want to. Unless someone claims watcher we would be firing blind
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I still don’t love the idea of leaving Kyonna around long just in case we lose more people. The more boats we lose the more interference the thievery can cause. I can see going Geno first though.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
I can pull the trigger on Kyonna if y’all want

I doubt that a watcher/tracker would latch one to us tonight
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So Kyonna or Geno sparks?
CoolestLP or AbsoFat to kill?
Do we block and if so who?

Those are the things we need to answer in ~6 hours
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF Fat4all & absolutbro:

KILL: Geno

Since none of us were grabbed tonight we can go here first. Maybe Kyonna grabbed one of Vere/Apollo and not killing Kyonna can create some WIFOM around that? Tomorrow night I think we kill Kyonna no matter what - no matter who was grabbed.

I don't think a block in the dark is worth it when a movement PR is out there, may as well just sit on it at this point unless @Terraforce strongly disagrees. Doubt there's any other role worth blocking.

Probably going to bus AbsolutFat today with the intention of "locking" the scum team as them, Vere/Apollo and either SkyChugg or FEP/Stan.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Or maybe it's better to kill Kyonna since they didn't grab us and create WIFOM around whoever claims it...

Idk. If someone wants to override it to Kyonna feel free, but I wanted a kill down.
 
I’m down for the Geno kill. Are you still thinking of claiming jailer partner, or would you rather go vanilla? Just asking since you decided against acting tonight which is perfectly fine, just that it could potentially go against our claim if we’re tracked.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m down for the Geno kill. Are you still thinking of claiming jailer partner, or would you rather go vanilla? Just asking since you decided against acting tonight which is perfectly fine, just that it could potentially go against our claim if we’re tracked.
I think we’re better off going vanilla and hoping no one saw us move. I don’t think people would buy the jailer claim at this point, especially with what our targets where so if we were seen moving we’re probably hosed regardless.
 
I am so sorry I have not been around. We have been jumping through hoops for my remaining dog who is in full blown depression. He's not eating and we've been doing everything we can to make him feel better but he's just not used to being alone. We may be introducing him to a new pup on Tuesday or Wednesday and hopefully that helps. I am really sorry. Bear if you would rather replace me I understand but I know it's kind of late also. I will try to do better.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I am so sorry I have not been around. We have been jumping through hoops for my remaining dog who is in full blown depression. He's not eating and we've been doing everything we can to make him feel better but he's just not used to being alone. We may be introducing him to a new pup on Tuesday or Wednesday and hopefully that helps. I am really sorry. Bear if you would rather replace me I understand but I know it's kind of late also. I will try to do better.
Seriously don’t worry - you take care of you. You could go the rest of the game hitting only the minimum and I don’t think it would have an impact on the outcome. This is just going to be down to can town break out of their POE before it’s too late or not.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Maybe don’t kill Kyonna for an additional night just in case they’re actually neutral lol
 
Side note, but looks like I shouldn't have to drop. I forgot weekends are 48hour nights here, so I'll miss the end of D4 and beginning of D5 but I'll just preface it in the thread to excuse my absence. Works out because I hate replacing out of games so late into the game.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So looks like we may need to get our claim right sooner rather than later. Which pear o bears do you want to claim, Nat?
Let’s take the country bears and be vanilla. Baelus took banjo right? Someone check that
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just going to have to pray he hasn’t seen or tracked us. Kinda nervous, but he never showed much interest in us. If he followed us it would have to of been N1. N2 if he saw us go to Brazil we would be dead.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kind of shocked Fantohead are a PR too. Town seems stacked compared to us.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Bit nervous about how Fanto is implying his role will lock him as town. Kind of obnoxious the PRs town has compared to us.
 
Damn I been missing shit. And the game is truly afoot now, since they seem to be able to find out what we up to if they look hard enough.
 
I am so sorry I have not been around. We have been jumping through hoops for my remaining dog who is in full blown depression. He's not eating and we've been doing everything we can to make him feel better but he's just not used to being alone. We may be introducing him to a new pup on Tuesday or Wednesday and hopefully that helps. I am really sorry. Bear if you would rather replace me I understand but I know it's kind of late also. I will try to do better.
No worries man, hope it all works out over there, you're dealing with real shit.
 
Bit nervous about how Fanto is implying his role will lock him as town. Kind of obnoxious the PRs town has compared to us.
To be fair, we got Double Voter, which basically makes me and L-P look town and can coast to victory, along with a few other good roles.

IDK, I feel we're pretty well off.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
To be fair, we got Double Voter, which basically makes me and L-P look town and can coast to victory, along with a few other good roles.

IDK, I feel we're pretty well off.
But even so the double vote is neutered - more like a 1.5 vote and it was one shot.
 
Fair, my thoughts were more if used like we did it confirms a player and lets them abuse their position to lead town (which I've been lacking in), but I guess I'm out of my depth with this topic.

But hey, we gonna win still so...
 
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