Gossip Thread The cage of the stolen... (Night 4)

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  1. The Bear

    The Bear Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society

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    TheChuggernaut has been stolen by a pair of thieves! Whatever may this mean?

    This chat is to be used between the thieves, and TheChuggernaut until the end of the night phase.
     
  2. empressdonna

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    Phantom Thieves, appear!~

    Welcome to our hugbox of love.

    First query, though it doesn't matter much now, can you still see your chat ^_^?
     
  3. Kyanrute

    Kyanrute kyan-rute

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    what a stupid day end

    hurrdurr town
     
  4. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Oh Jesus, I was just checking this to see if Sky got back, I didn’t even realize the turbo happened and I was wondering how I got yoinked in the middle of the day phase.

    Anyway, yeah. Only this chat is showing up. Think it actually confused my notifications
     
  5. empressdonna

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    That was a right old mess for certain :(, if they didn't turbo we could have at least went over their theories though like I said in the main chat, I'm not buying a stu/monkey scum world.

    So that leaves nat/terra, stan/fep or abs4all as our maybe vanillas
     
  6. Kyanrute

    Kyanrute kyan-rute

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    Ok Chuggs, time to play for the town.

    I want you to post your command for tonight in this chat. I want you to override Sky if he posts something. I want you to message me and donna. You can pick the contents, the message must be longer than zero characters though.

    I'll explain the reasoning for this after the commands have been locked, this chat stays open for something like an hour or so after the lock so you can still see the explanation. Should things go as I expect them to go, I will in addition ask you to keep the explanation hidden from anyone who is not us three and Sky and ask you to tell Sky to do the same.

    If you choose to not do this, I will mention it in the main thread tomorrow as a thing against you and push for your lynch.
     
  7. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Wait, they turbo'd themselves? Why on earth?

    And yeah, I really don't want to enter Stu/Monkey are scum world. Stu getting that Baelus is exactly why I argued that I didn't want to kill Monkey/Stu day 1. They're basically our MVP's at this point. I feel like town would win a lot more games if they didn't waste days flying off into conspiracy land and just went for the simple solutions.
     
  8. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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  9. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Works for me, Kyan
     
  10. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Me and Sky talked about what happens if one of us gets taken so I don't think he'll be mailing anyone.
     
  11. Kyanrute

    Kyanrute kyan-rute

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    Cool, cheers for the cooperation. This does not have a high profit ceiling but could be useful if some certain things happen or do not happen.
     
  12. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Screw it, I'm a mail bear. I do what I want. I'll repost this a bit before EoD just in case Sky loses his mind while I'm gone. Is your partner notified that you got taken?

    Mail: Kyanrute and empressdonna
    ACT III
    SCENE I. Rome. Before the Capitol; the Senate sitting above.

    A crowd of people; among them ARTEMIDORUS and the Soothsayer. Flourish. Enter CAESAR, BRUTUS, CASSIUS, CASCA, DECIUS BRUTUS, METELLUS CIMBER, TREBONIUS, CINNA, ANTONY, LEPIDUS, POPILIUS, PUBLIUS, and others CAESAR [To the Soothsayer] The ides of March are come.
    Soothsayer Ay, Caesar; but not gone.
    ARTEMIDORUS Hail, Caesar! read this schedule.
    DECIUS BRUTUS Trebonius doth desire you to o'erread,
    At your best leisure, this his humble suit.
    ARTEMIDORUS O Caesar, read mine first; for mine's a suit
    That touches Caesar nearer: read it, great Caesar.
    CAESAR What touches us ourself shall be last served.
    ARTEMIDORUS Delay not, Caesar; read it instantly.
    CAESAR What, is the fellow mad?
    PUBLIUS Sirrah, give place.
    CASSIUS What, urge you your petitions in the street?
    Come to the Capitol.
    CAESAR goes up to the Senate-House, the rest following

    POPILIUS I wish your enterprise to-day may thrive.
    CASSIUS What enterprise, Popilius?
    POPILIUS Fare you well.
    Advances to CAESAR

    BRUTUS What said Popilius Lena?
    CASSIUS He wish'd to-day our enterprise might thrive.
    I fear our purpose is discovered.
    BRUTUS Look, how he makes to Caesar; mark him.
    CASSIUS Casca, be sudden, for we fear prevention.
    Brutus, what shall be done? If this be known,
    Cassius or Caesar never shall turn back,
    For I will slay myself.
    BRUTUS Cassius, be constant:
    Popilius Lena speaks not of our purposes;
    For, look, he smiles, and Caesar doth not change.
    CASSIUS Trebonius knows his time; for, look you, Brutus.
    He draws Mark Antony out of the way.
    Exeunt ANTONY and TREBONIUS

    DECIUS BRUTUS Where is Metellus Cimber? Let him go,
    And presently prefer his suit to Caesar.
    BRUTUS He is address'd: press near and second him.
    CINNA Casca, you are the first that rears your hand.
    CAESAR Are we all ready? What is now amiss
    That Caesar and his senate must redress?
    METELLUS CIMBER Most high, most mighty, and most puissant Caesar,
    Metellus Cimber throws before thy seat
    An humble heart,--
    Kneeling

    CAESAR I must prevent thee, Cimber.
    These couchings and these lowly courtesies
    Might fire the blood of ordinary men,
    And turn pre-ordinance and first decree
    Into the law of children. Be not fond,
    To think that Caesar bears such rebel blood
    That will be thaw'd from the true quality
    With that which melteth fools; I mean, sweet words,
    Low-crooked court'sies and base spaniel-fawning.
    Thy brother by decree is banished:
    If thou dost bend and pray and fawn for him,
    I spurn thee like a cur out of my way.
    Know, Caesar doth not wrong, nor without cause
    Will he be satisfied.
    METELLUS CIMBER Is there no voice more worthy than my own
    To sound more sweetly in great Caesar's ear
    For the repealing of my banish'd brother?
    BRUTUS I kiss thy hand, but not in flattery, Caesar;
    Desiring thee that Publius Cimber may
    Have an immediate freedom of repeal.
    CAESAR What, Brutus!
    CASSIUS Pardon, Caesar; Caesar, pardon:
    As low as to thy foot doth Cassius fall,
    To beg enfranchisement for Publius Cimber.
    CASSIUS I could be well moved, if I were as you:
    If I could pray to move, prayers would move me:
    But I am constant as the northern star,
    Of whose true-fix'd and resting quality
    There is no fellow in the firmament.
    The skies are painted with unnumber'd sparks,
    They are all fire and every one doth shine,
    But there's but one in all doth hold his place:
    So in the world; 'tis furnish'd well with men,
    And men are flesh and blood, and apprehensive;
    Yet in the number I do know but one
    That unassailable holds on his rank,
    Unshaked of motion: and that I am he,
    Let me a little show it, even in this;
    That I was constant Cimber should be banish'd,
    And constant do remain to keep him so.
    CINNA O Caesar,--
    CAESAR Hence! wilt thou lift up Olympus?
    DECIUS BRUTUS Great Caesar,--
    CAESAR Doth not Brutus bootless kneel?
    CASCA Speak, hands for me!
    CASCA first, then the other Conspirators and BRUTUS stab CAESAR

    CAESAR Et tu, Brute! Then fall, Caesar.
    Dies
     
  13. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Anything else you want to talk about?
     
  14. Kyanrute

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    I think the others have said that the lone partner did get notified about the steal, we haven't seen that in action though.
     
  15. empressdonna

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    Of the vanillas, who do you think is most likely scum?

    With xbro's flip, abs4all certainly doesn't look good and we have some thoughts on who scum will go for tonight too.
     
  16. Kyanrute

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    Yeah, reads are the thing here I guess. I need to think a bit.
     
  17. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Hm, I'm kind of not sure who I'm going to be gunning for tomorrow as of yet.

    Natiko was gunning for Abs4all pretty hard today which makes me they probably aren't scum together, but that could easily be bussing especially at this stage of the game were town is looking at the pool of people most likely to be scum under a microscope.

    I still feel better about Stan, but I think Monkey laid out some really good points against Panda.

    Abs4All is probably the most likely to be scum and needs to be the next target. With that flip from Reki and Xbro, the vote list on them is just a covered in town.

    We have to be careful with this next day because we're probably closer then we would like to be game over and that just seems like the safest choice
     
  18. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    I would like to hear your thoughts and reads and what not also if you have the time
     
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    Just woke up but I can give you the gist.

    - stu/monkey: town, been reading them as town since D1, never going to change
    - nat/terra: originally couldn't read nat, terra though felt very townie to me. I felt better about nat since but he is a good player and could be scum.
    - abs4all: our 'green check', look worse after that flip and could clear stan/fep?
    - stan/fep: town? scum? neutral? hard to read sometimes

    - verollo: our celebs, d3 end didn't help them but they are cleared.
    - fantohead: been swaying between town/scum for these two but they are our motion detectors
    - cs_lp: CS is always someone to be wary of but how often is double voter scum?
    - raxander: originally thought rac was hinting at two other powers haha, but they did get a track.
     
  20. empressdonna

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    oh i forgot you guys, sorry. like i said, still waking up XD

    skychug: our messenger friends ^_^, I will admit to having worries before but leaning town :).
     
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    Kyanrute kyan-rute

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    hmm ok reads time here there be much zzz am le tired so imma wing em a bit and ignore obvious peeps like verepollo

    lets start with them messengers - hmm. i was thinking that you are like fanto and cannot prove yourselves but nooo you are more like rac. fanto at least has a chance of getting in on some hardcore scum MURDER action, meanwhile messengerbet-duo-duo are sitting on the sidelines, writing dank betposts about who gets killed 1st. your role is a ez lynch to make when most of the competition can actually bring a role that is worth something. in addition some of your reads have been bad i think but HELLO IT IS ME POCKET GOSSIP talking here so hmm. yeah, if you are all town i think you have a hard time ahead of you. do i think you are town? well i can't say i can call you town - i'll counter myself with xbro and reki here tyvm.

    abso hmm. never finished that reread because DA HAMMER struck. praise the hammer. really, i dunno. could be could not be.

    natiko and terra might need like a single flip or two more to have a case against them, don't think they are getting it tomorrow. certainly, the longer they are in the longer the chance they are meanies. could flip abso to see what that tells of their d1 d2 push there, could look at vote record etc. possible scum yeah but dunnos the chance really.

    i'll entertain doc stu mafia at endgame.

    rac va is like i said before unprovable and might be some neutrals or something, don't remember how that lines up with their claimed bets. if neutral and can exit the stage before game ends maybe we have 3 scum? dunnos. really if not for the bizarre ass role i'd not even bother thinking that they are scum, mostly because of VA feeling so town.

    coolest is ??? some of the choices made are bit extreme and kinda feel like something that scum would not do but then again it is coolest. tossing away the vote was wat but it is coolest. is double a scum thing? why not really, it really only is BONKERS OP REMOVE THIS GRR if it gets to endgame and pulls a lol flip a day before anyone expected and i think that is just fine. would tell something about the scum powers though, they'd be a bit toned down in this world as well and 3 meanies would be a thing so i guess he is town but i should reserve my thoughts for flips.

    stanpandas is scum maybe. could be. could.

    fanto being all reserved fits with the role he claimed. i wish he dies so i need not worry about it. ifwhen he lives i need to be thinkings of role balance and whatnot - does town need him or is he fake claiming. could use someone like the messengers dying HINT HINT to get some sense of the claim bit of the unknowns.
     
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    i dunno what is the thought to go for, vanilla or claims.

    mabby try to solve the mystery of the vanilla. natstanabso? at least that'd have some discussion, the alternative just kills the poor messengers, not like coolest is going to gain any notable traction lol.
     
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    Kyanrute kyan-rute

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    could there be two in the three above? needs a 4 person team then. coppers and ninja and two goons or something like that. or have one of the goons be a messenger teehee.

    there should be a single mislynch still at least i think. after that this shit gets really serious but im sure we will handle this devastation as well as global warming.
     
  24. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    Team Rac and Team Fanto looked pretty good during the whole Baelus stuff, imo. Like they would be heavy in my "Do not vote for them." pile at this point even if they didn't claim. I think it would be best to go for a vanilla tomorrow and I say that not just because me and Sky would be getting the ax if we didn't lol. There has to be scum between those 3. If there isn't then I'm never playing mafia again. Team Abs is who would I guess is getting it tomorrow. I have a feeling Stukey will probaly be looking there too.
     
  25. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    I think that flip gives us the most information at this point considering votes that were on him during day 1.

    Also, I'm going to laugh if Coolest actually hit scum with his first attempt at the double vote after we told him that was a bad place to put his vote.

    I keep forgetting Coolest. I haven't been playing that long, but I've never seen a scum double voter before which makes me think that's a town role, but who knows. As of now I'm still thinking he's town based on nothing but my gut
     
  26. Kyanrute

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    see this is why chats are nice you already brought so many things back to my mind

    rac and fanto gangs did look niceballs during the revelations of the pirate malus so if them gets dropped our glorious pool of toxic scum waste gets reduced to

    FRIENDLY TOWN MESSENGERS OF HAPPINESS :3
    natiko and terra
    stan and feps
    abso and replacement
    coolest and lp

    and them contain at least two meanies times two

    hmm stanfeps versus absoplacement huh
     
  27. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    I'm actually starting to think it is a scum team of 3 because I just can't see 3 different scum teams in that group.

    My current scum lean order from most to least scummy is Team Abs > Standas > NatForce > CoolestLP

    Town will probably kill me and Sky after Stan's team gets dusted so hopefully we by then we will have flipped a scum or two so town will be able to eat the miss.
     
  28. TheChuggernaut

    TheChuggernaut I'm always town.

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    I'm pretty sure Sky wouldn't send anything, but I'm going to send this again just in case

    Mail: Kyanrute and empressdonna

    ACT III
    SCENE I. Rome. Before the Capitol; the Senate sitting above.
    A crowd of people; among them ARTEMIDORUS and the Soothsayer. Flourish. Enter CAESAR, BRUTUS, CASSIUS, CASCA, DECIUS BRUTUS, METELLUS CIMBER, TREBONIUS, CINNA, ANTONY, LEPIDUS, POPILIUS, PUBLIUS, and others CAESAR [To the Soothsayer] The ides of March are come.
    Soothsayer Ay, Caesar; but not gone.
    ARTEMIDORUS Hail, Caesar! read this schedule.
    DECIUS BRUTUS Trebonius doth desire you to o'erread,
    At your best leisure, this his humble suit.
    ARTEMIDORUS O Caesar, read mine first; for mine's a suit
    That touches Caesar nearer: read it, great Caesar.
    CAESAR What touches us ourself shall be last served.
    ARTEMIDORUS Delay not, Caesar; read it instantly.
    CAESAR What, is the fellow mad?
    PUBLIUS Sirrah, give place.
    CASSIUS What, urge you your petitions in the street?
    Come to the Capitol.
    CAESAR goes up to the Senate-House, the rest following

    POPILIUS I wish your enterprise to-day may thrive.
    CASSIUS What enterprise, Popilius?
    POPILIUS Fare you well.
    Advances to CAESAR

    BRUTUS What said Popilius Lena?
    CASSIUS He wish'd to-day our enterprise might thrive.
    I fear our purpose is discovered.
    BRUTUS Look, how he makes to Caesar; mark him.
    CASSIUS Casca, be sudden, for we fear prevention.
    Brutus, what shall be done? If this be known,
    Cassius or Caesar never shall turn back,
    For I will slay myself.
    BRUTUS Cassius, be constant:
    Popilius Lena speaks not of our purposes;
    For, look, he smiles, and Caesar doth not change.
    CASSIUS Trebonius knows his time; for, look you, Brutus.
    He draws Mark Antony out of the way.
    Exeunt ANTONY and TREBONIUS

    DECIUS BRUTUS Where is Metellus Cimber? Let him go,
    And presently prefer his suit to Caesar.
    BRUTUS He is address'd: press near and second him.
    CINNA Casca, you are the first that rears your hand.
    CAESAR Are we all ready? What is now amiss
    That Caesar and his senate must redress?
    METELLUS CIMBER Most high, most mighty, and most puissant Caesar,
    Metellus Cimber throws before thy seat
    An humble heart,--
    Kneeling

    CAESAR I must prevent thee, Cimber.
    These couchings and these lowly courtesies
    Might fire the blood of ordinary men,
    And turn pre-ordinance and first decree
    Into the law of children. Be not fond,
    To think that Caesar bears such rebel blood
    That will be thaw'd from the true quality
    With that which melteth fools; I mean, sweet words,
    Low-crooked court'sies and base spaniel-fawning.
    Thy brother by decree is banished:
    If thou dost bend and pray and fawn for him,
    I spurn thee like a cur out of my way.
    Know, Caesar doth not wrong, nor without cause
    Will he be satisfied.
    METELLUS CIMBER Is there no voice more worthy than my own
    To sound more sweetly in great Caesar's ear
    For the repealing of my banish'd brother?
    BRUTUS I kiss thy hand, but not in flattery, Caesar;
    Desiring thee that Publius Cimber may
    Have an immediate freedom of repeal.
    CAESAR What, Brutus!
    CASSIUS Pardon, Caesar; Caesar, pardon:
    As low as to thy foot doth Cassius fall,
    To beg enfranchisement for Publius Cimber.
    CASSIUS I could be well moved, if I were as you:
    If I could pray to move, prayers would move me:
    But I am constant as the northern star,
    Of whose true-fix'd and resting quality
    There is no fellow in the firmament.
    The skies are painted with unnumber'd sparks,
    They are all fire and every one doth shine,
    But there's but one in all doth hold his place:
    So in the world; 'tis furnish'd well with men,
    And men are flesh and blood, and apprehensive;
    Yet in the number I do know but one
    That unassailable holds on his rank,
    Unshaked of motion: and that I am he,
    Let me a little show it, even in this;
    That I was constant Cimber should be banish'd,
    And constant do remain to keep him so.
    CINNA O Caesar,--
    CAESAR Hence! wilt thou lift up Olympus?
    DECIUS BRUTUS Great Caesar,--
    CAESAR Doth not Brutus bootless kneel?
    CASCA Speak, hands for me!
    CASCA first, then the other Conspirators and BRUTUS stab CAESAR

    CAESAR Et tu, Brute! Then fall, Caesar.
    Dies
     
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    Night actions lock in like 40 minutes, yeah?
     
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    Oh boy, we're under a tornado warning.

    So I'll try to pop back in here to see your explanation, but if I don't it's because I'm trying to not die.
     
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    Hoping for calm winds here.

    Anyways, the idea is to compare / test you and Fanto. See how your role interacts with the chat, mark it down, then have Fanto do the same. Since Bear wasn't all mean about you posting the command here, Fanto should be able to write his command here as well, assuming he has one. The chance that he is lying isn't that great I think but it is better than nothing / just chatting about reads.

    Unless something extreme happens, we will be stealing Fanto tomorrow to test him out. Should we die on that night, it could tell something about Fanto, but I should state that on the other hand it could hardly be called anything but conclusive.
     
  32. The Bear

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    This chat will be locked now, and the stolen will be returned to where they belong...