Lovers Thread This Chat Is Made of Love

Discussion in 'Steven Universe' started by heymonkey, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. heymonkey

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    Welcome! You two have found each other at last. As a result, you have gained a night-only chat... but you've also become Lovers, which means if one of you dies, you both die. Be careful out there.

    This thread will be locked during the day phase, but you'll still have read access.
     
  2. heymonkey

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    Your thread is open for the night!
     
  3. lokiduck

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    Thanks! And sorry for messing up the voting tool there. .-.
     
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    Holy crap we got scum good job Ketkat!
     
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    We did it! I kind of waffled there at the end, but I'm glad it worked out.
     
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    Hey Ket, I'm happy we can finally chat!
     
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    I slightly wonder if I'll get heat for staying on Oreo but I'm actually still convinced he might be scum, the sudden push for Chuggs was weird and the only reason Zeke got hit was because Chuggs made a defense vote besides yours of course.
     
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    Also I have to make a run to storage today and it will probably take an hour. I wanted to give us a chance to talk properly so I was wondering what your schedule for mafia was going to be like since you are EST and I'm PDT.
     
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    Right so I'm leaving, but a question I have for you is related to my role. If you were to shoot one of the remaining players that you are convinced are scum, who would it be?

    When we get the chance, I'd love to discuss this more and what our individual roles are so we can better plan our strategies.
     
  10. Ketkat

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    I'll be in and out a lot today, but I'm typically always around. I don't expect you to get a lot of heat, but we'll figure it out if you do.

    I need to look a little closer at that flip before I can say how I feel about most people but I'll let you know soon!
     
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    Before I dive too deep though, I would not want to shoot any of these people.

    Us
    exodus
    B-dubs
    Queen Kong
    Sawneeks

    Sawneeks was pushing Ezekel really hard throughout that phase before the train really picked up on him, so I feel like she's probably town unless some other stuff happens later.
    I believe Queen Kong hinted that she was Pearl from the Crystal Gems on Day 1, and everything I'm seeing leads me to believe that flavor is worth trusting, at least for now.
    B-dubs and Exodus could have scum powers, but I'm not sure I see it from either of them. Our role is pretty weird, so I can see the same for Exodus, and a Dayvig being town in a role madness game checks out for me.
     
  12. Ketkat

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    Although, having said that. If you actually have a shot, B-dubs should be looked at a bit closer.
     
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    Yes that is exactly why I am suspicious of B-Dubs. So let me explain my Role though i'd like to know what your role is as well.
     
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    Role power i mean.
     
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    lokiduck Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs

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    I'm a potential lover as your know but I'm also a potential vigilante, I get one shot if the right conditions are met, that condition being you getting NK'd. If you were NK'd before we fused then I would have been able to take the shot during day or night, I just have to PM Monkey.

    But now that we are fused we will both die, but if you are NK'd then I still get to take the shot before day starts as Monkey will notify me as soon as night actions lock if you are. If I get NK'd then we die. If either of us get lunched or Smashed by b-Dubs we both die.
     
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    I was more suspicious of B-Dubs when he revealed to be basically a Vig. because it seems weird for town to have two of them, but considering i'm only a potential one based on if certain conditions are met, there is a possibility that B-Dubs is still town. I'm unsure because he was basically fed his flavor name by the thread, and he would lie anyways if he's scum.

    As of right now, my top choices are B-Dubs for that reason, and Oreomunsta because I have honestly been scumreading him since day one, I just didn't have enough proof to vote him day 1, and Day 2 I stayed on him for that reason.

    Also i didn't notice the breadcrumb from Queen Kong, but that is interesting.
     
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    Oh, that's pretty neat. My only power was to check players to see if they were you so that I could fuse. If I hit anyone else, I would get no result. Did you have any way of looking for me too?
     
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    Also Sawneeks had a crazy theory that Scum have day roles that are public and I kind of wonder if that's the case for some of their roles. I can only take the shot PMing Monkey, and my Role PM even mentions that I'd have to tell people I started the party.

    This party thing going on currently reads like a power Town would have to make find scum via seeing who isn't chatting as much ??? and was probably PM'd to Monkey as well.
     
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    I did not, basically my job was to wait and hope you found me, or take revenge if you didn't. However I have to say I'm quite proud I noticed your hints. XD I was keeping track of the gifs people were posting for that reason.
     
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    My plan if you hadn't found me in a few days would have been to breadcrumb my flavor as subtle as possible but I didn't wan to take a risk the closet I ever did was comment on a ruby gif pregame and responding to your Garnet question even tho that was genuinely me saying I love Garnet. Why did you guess it was me?
     
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    That comment is how I guessed it was you. I wasn't 100% sure, but we were actually the only two people to mention Garnet outside of speculation surrounding Exodus. And no one had mentioned Ruby or Sapphire.

    Your role being dependent on whether I found you or not leads a lot of credibility to Exodus for sure. However, I'm not quite certain about B-dubs still. I had no knowledge of your role whatsoever, and if you had died before I found you, I wouldn't have gained anything. So, it wasn't guaranteed that we would get our dayvig shot no matter what if you had been nightkilled, or taken out by town. If it was, I would feel 100% certain B-dubs was lying. I dunno how to feel about it right now!
     
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    Lol i'm glad i commented now. I found it amazing Sawneeks said that we don't even know if fusion is a thing in this game when we had literally fused during the first night.

    Yeah definitely. I'm willing to wait on B-Dubs until we have more info then and maybe shoot someone who is more suspicious if i get the shot. Mind you that all depends on how things go. As of right now we are just lovers. if you had gotten lunched before we fused i would have just been a vanilla.
     
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    My plan if you got NK'd actually was to take the shot, out myself, and hopefully bait a NK so the others with powers still could live.
     
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    Anyways my leading theory is that oreo is scum and the Chugg train was an attempt to pull votes from him since he went from being in the lead to only having me and Neon on him. I'm going to look over the peeps on that train and the ones on the zeke train because usually scum do vote for scum so there should be at least one.
     
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    Mind you I am feeling good about the people on Zeke :/ So def starting with Chugg train since Nin was trying to convince Neeks, me, and WSD of oreo, and WSD was being weird.
     
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    WSD being weird is definitely something to take a closer look at for sure. Looking at WSD's post history, there really isn't much there at all.

    That's the only read list that I see and it was pretty recent.
     
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    I find it hilarious that he thought he didn't need to explain why he's townreading B-Dubs, and his reasoning for why ended up being crazy. I'm going to be watching a lot of his comments on day 3 for sure. He comes off as either a confused townie trying to catch up or scum making some weird decisions.

    Again nin tried to get me and Sawneeks (who he had just said he suspected) to vote WSD, but that doesn't prove anything as either WSD is town or he knew an actual train wouldn't get started in time and was just trying to get the heat off Oreo without giving Zeke as an option. Not to mention that nin wasn't feeling the zeke or oreo trains and his reasoning was just "because I don't think they are scum" without explaining why until we asked him.
     
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    I'm also investigating Z-Beats, 90% of his comments are on flavor and when i asked fore more, what he said wasn't all that convincing. He didn't even give a full list.
     
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    Also proof that the flavor speculation is somewhat pointless, several peeps thought Jasper would be a strongman, and she was a roleblocker.
     
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    Though admittedly Saphy being able to look for Ruby and Ruby being a vig only if Saphy is hurt makes complete sense.

    But even then people are expecting someone to be Garnet (which someone might be after we learned about Stevonnie) but instead they have us. XD
     
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    It is somewhat pointless, but it's also weirdly accurate for a lot of town. And yeah, us being the way that we are is why I was pretty suspicious of that Stevonnie situation
     
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    Here's oreo's read list from before day end by the way.

    Oreo is town reading you, me, EzekelRage, Chuggernaut, Exodus, and B-dubs. Basically, the big claims, us, and then a scum member and an unknown. If oreo flips as scum, I'd look back at these null reads more than anything.
     
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    Agreed. I actually asked nin about it because he's been null reading Oreo. I need to see what his stakes on zeke was though he has admitted that he was wrong. Let me go grab Z-Beats bad list too. Which if Z is scum that might make sense as maybe he's covering for scummates by suggesting in thread what their flavors are??? I'm not sure.
     
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    Nin's list:
     
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    And yep he gave both nulls to Zeke, Z, and even B-Dubs (before the smash reveal) Interestingly he considers you a threat. And I guess he was on my case mainly for the wee vote and not being as active.
     
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    Lol I keep almost posting in that main thread, that would be horrible. Maybe I should change my avatars after all.

    Anyways Z Beat was willing to believe Zeke. Town Z might do that because Onion speaking gibberish for role block might make sense to him, but scum him could have been trying to save a mate.

    Also his only scum reads are B-Dubs, Chuggs, and Exo. Everyone else is null
     
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    Here's the thing though, the only player who he has really focused on is B-Dubs. He voted for B-Dubs on day one, and yet while he is scumreading B still and even annoyed people weren't putting on heat on Dubs like they were Exo, but he voted for Chuggs.
     
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    I asked Oreo for a new reads list since he claims he got it wrong, we'll see how his opinons change there compared to the first.
     
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    I'll be back later, but oreo's new read list is up. Let's see what some other people in the thread think as they come back too
     
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    The updated list

    He feels less favorable on you, and is outright scum reading nin and WSD, but Dubs is still fine. Z also still scum.
     
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    Yep I agree. XD I got to go hang laundry anyways.
     
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    Little confused why Reki is looking more favorably due to EoD when they weren't there??? But maybe that was the conversation last night he's referring to.
     
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    One more thing of note about this whole party business. I didn't think anything of it until I reread my role PM, but Monkey mentions the word party there too.
     
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    NEVERMIND. I was told to ignore it.
     
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    Neeks made a very lovely summary of the whole nin and votes thing yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. Found it hilarious that nin's first rebuttal was against my comment. It'll be interesting to see him go on the defensive.
     
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    That and he mentioned he'd rather take a risk and get lunched instead of being town read and getting NK'd to me. >>
     
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    That is like the third time he has been cryptically threatening to me. >>;
     
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    I almost didn't comment on the discussion about him because I knew he'd specifically respond to me and sure enough.
     
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    Either way, hopefully we'll get a chance to discuss it tomorrow more while I'm at work, but I'm still leaning on shooting oreo if I get my shot. His flip would help in figuring out if nin was trying to save him or nin really was just being weird trying to figure out who to vote for. Way i figure, nin is going to have town him, so why not look into one of his possible scummates and B-Dubs is too much of a risk of actually being town compared to oreo.

    Also I just realized that this chat will be public once the game is over, so that's great I mentioned my interactions with nin because now everyone will be able to see it later. >>;
     
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    Sorry I was so quiet there, I conked out like a rock. If we do get taken out by scum, shoot for who you feel is best. I think you're on the right track with a lot of your current angles, but we'll figure it out over the next day for sure!
     
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    Okay thanks. I honestly hope we lived tonight because out of the two, I've been townread more, so I'm worried they'll NK me instead of you, though they went after LP the first night.
     
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    I got my thoughts down in the party (thanks for that party power person who I suspect is Sour Cream), so if we do die, people will get an idea who I was suspecting besides nin and oreo.
     
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    Also how do you want to handle if we have to role claim? Becuase us just claiming lovers will make us suspect due to there already being lovers in the game, though maybe saying potential lovers and that we only could be through the right conditions might help our case.
     
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    Oh thank fuck. You are safe.
     
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    I'm wonder if it's better to be honest about one of us being a potential vig with out explaining what the conditions are and which one is Ruby might be a bit of a gambit but maybe it will allow me to make the shot in the end.
     
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    At the very least we can use that Garnet quest and my response as proof of "breadcrumbing" XD
     
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    I've breadcumbed the role slightly beforehand, the very first post I made in the thread should help with that. And I think that our role is sufficiently complicated that most people won't want to kneejerk vote us out for being lovers. I would hold off as long as possible on claiming though. If we claim early, and then get NK'd by scum, and then miss the shot, we will end up hurting town really badly.
     
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    I agree completely there on waiting, I was mostly just asking for if there is a point where we have to claim. If we can avoid it, I definitely want to though. Anyways I have to leave for an hour or so, will be back hopefully before day begins. So if you have any more thoughts and opinions feel free to express them so I can at least see them.
     
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    This will be shut down soon, just FYI. I have to get another mod to do it because I'm mobile for now so here's your warning.
     
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    Thread is open for the night.
     
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    Thanks! Well that was certainly an interesting day to say the least. I'm going to have to rethink my strategies a bit now so let me get my thoughts put together Ket.
     
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    Sure, take your time. That day phase was a bit eh, but we'll sort it out and figure out where to go from here. I'm going to take a shower and try and relax for a little bit before I pop up in here. This Etika stuff brought up a lot of uncomfortable feelings personally and people have been hurting and lashing out at the mental health community so it's a lot of stress to manage. That's kind of where I was this past day phase, but I'll be here soon, don't worry!
     
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    Oh okay, in that case take your time. c:
     
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    Hey, Ketkat, we all love you and we are here if you need anything.
     
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    I agree 100%.
     
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    First of all I'd like to bring your attention to this question by Queen Kong which was
    I found this comment interesting because I do in fact believe that this is what happening a lot this game. My argument for this is based on the fact that we are potential lovers when there were town lovers and I'm a potential vig when B-Dubs has vig like powers. It would also explain how we could have a gem redirect and someone with a lightning rod if that really did happen to exodus.

    I found it interesting that kong asked that question and it does make me wonder if she has a similar power to one that has already been revealed.

    For this reason I do think it is possible that B-Dubs might be in fact town, but I'm still going to list him as suspect until I see otherwise, partly because if I suddenly drop him as a suspect, people will wonder why.

    Anyways I'm still suspicious of B-Dubs, but one way I feel I can get a better handle on him is if we look into Z-Beat.

    Besides focusing on flavor, Z-Beat has mostly gotten into arguments with B-Dubs and exodus. On day one Z-Beat argued with B-Dubs and then voted for him on a train that never really took off. Then day 2 he was again focusing on B-Dubs (especially after the smash) and exodus again, but he voted for Chuggs because he suspected scum of trying to lynch oreo. Personally, I think that there is the possibility of Z-Beat picking a fight with B-Dubs but not really arguing against him because they are both scum, though it might also be possible that only one of them is.

    For that reason I'm leaning towards using my shot on Z-Beat if I get it as flipping him might help in understanding the whole exo/Z/B debate.

    oreo is still one of my suspects, but now that nin has flipped town I'm not entirely sure on that and I need to figure some stuff out. nin seeming to defend him was one of the reasons I suspected him more honestly. However, there is the possibility that oreo is in fact scum but with the leading trains as him and Zeke, scum wasn't sure what to move and town just happened to accidentally take votes on oreo.

    I'm trying to figure out what happened day 2 and I think that's where we should focus honestly as 3 didn't really provide us with anything major except for the fact that Z-beat wasn't interested in the whole nin might be scum debate and focused on exodus.

    Anyways that is my current thoughts, I'm going to do some work.
     
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    *take votes off oreo.
     
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    Thank you. But, not really the place to talk about it so I'm going to focus on accidentally killing some more town!
     
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    Sounds like a plan partner *thumbs up* I'm mostly just hoping I don't end up voting with Chuggs again!
     
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    Forgot to mention that on day two when I was riding the Oreo train with Neeks and Chuggs, I got paranoid that it'd look bad especially if oreo ended up being town, so when you joined us for a while I got even more worried. XD
     
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    I'm going to do this for quick reference too :

    Us
    [she/her] KetKat - EST
    [she/her] lokiduck - PST

    Claims
    [he/him] exodus - EST - Double Voter that's gone once either Steven or Connie die - Stevonnie
    [she/her] Queen Kong - GMT+9 - Unknown role - Pearl
    [he/him] B-Dubs - EST - DayVig - Sugilite

    Unclaimed
    Protector role - Steven (Presumably, he has a big shield and can be tied to Exodus that way)
    Lightning Rod - Unknown flavor
    Party - Unknown flavor


    [he/him] WhySoDevious - UTC-6
    [she/her] Sawneeks - PST
    [he/him] Stantastic - GMT+12
    [he/him] NeonBorealis - CST
    [they/them] Reki - UTC-4
    [he/him] Z-Beat - PST
    [he/him] TheChuggernaut - CST
    [he/him] oreomunsta - MST


    Dead
    [they/them] saenima - Lover #1 - Sadie
    [he/him] Meatwad - Lover #2 - Lars
    [he/him] Lone_Prodigy - Thunderdome - Amethyst
    [he/him] nin - Deflector - Peridot
    [they/them] weemadarthur - Commuter - Connie
    [he/him] EzekelRAGE - Scum Roleblocker - Jasper

    I believe that's everything, but if I forgot something, let me know! Thoughts in next post to keep it cleaner
     
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    That looks good to me, though WSD will be getting replaced it seems.
     
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    I believe that even if exodus is scum, now is not the time to really be looking there and I feel that scum should be looked at closer within those unclaimed people. I'll wait for a Steven flip/claim somewhere because he has to be in the Steven Universe game!

    I agree with you about B-dubs and honestly, I've never seen a scum DayVig in any of the games I've watched or played in, so I'd keep an eye on people who immediately questioned if he was scum or not based on that shot.

    I'm incredibly suspicious of Z-beat at this point, but I honestly have a lot of people that I'm null on which is worrying. But, I'm looking at this role claim list. And there are 3 roles out there and 10 people to fill those. I don't think Pearl would fit those roles, so I'll count her out for now. Which leaves 9 people for those 3 roles, if we slot those in, that leaves us 6 people who haven't claimed a role or power. If there's 3 or 4 scum left, would it be beneficial for us to try and get a mass claim going?
     
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    I agree that Steven has to be in this game somewhere (as a protector most def) and that exodus gets a pass for now as I'm more concerned about others.

    I personally think that having the dayvig be scum would be a pretty good cover, and something I could see happening because the only other vig we know of (me c:) can only PM Monkey and there for takes an anonymous shot. I wouldn't put it past Monkey to pull something like that. Though I also wonder if B-Dubs is neutral because Sugalite would fit that alignment pretty good.

    As for the mass claim... I'm not sure. I've already expressed my concerns about us having to claim because if we fuck it up, either we get lunched or I get NK'd meaning I can't take the shot, and I don't feel comfortable lying about being a vig because it'd look bad if everyone finds out before we die. I agree though that it'd be good to focus on those that haven't claimed at all though, especially if it proves my theory that some roles are overlapping this game.
     
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    I also suspect that this party power is town though, as I think it's a way for town to be able to keep talking and air out their theories about the EoD just in case they get NK'd.
     
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    I'll be so disappointed if the party power doesn't belong to Sour Cream or one of the other teens. It just feels so right.
     
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    Anyways out of the unclaimed people, I'm most suspicious of Z-Beat, oreo (Am I tunneling him too hard?), and whoever is replacing WSD.

    I feel pretty good still about Chuggs and I'm feeling better about Sawneeks as her vote is basically what sealed it for Zeke since Chuggs followed suit by voting for him. Reki has been super helpful in asking questions, but I'm still not sure on them as they mostly haven't put forth many theories. I have liked the votes they have made though (not just because they voted oreo day 1 >>). I've mostly been townreading neon and his summary of events was pretty good, but at the same time he was mainly just saying what everyone else was.
     
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    One note about Reki is that they have been suspecting Queen Kong of being scum, which is also interesting. Queen has been asking a lot of questions in the thread, but I find that weird in a way because she has a mentor like me (Mind you I have only asked like 1-3 questions and most of my mentor thread is me talking to my self with my theories for posts on end. XD) so why isn't she asking them?
     
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    *mechanical questions I mean.
     
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    Dunno, she might not be using her mentor thread very much at all either. I really haven't felt anything from Queen Kong except new town vibes, so I'm pretty okay with her right now

    I do think that Z-beat is who we should be taking a look at first, and if we get taken out tonight, I would probably aim there. I'm going to do a reread over him and get back to you on that soon!
     
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    Sounds good, I'll take a look as well and find the posts I had found earlier (I was all prepared to make an argument about him yesterday but decided against it), I'll just have to do it in between jobs at work. c:

    And yes, I was pretty committed to the Z-Beat shot when I started wondering if oreo really is scum and at the very least his death will help give info even if he ends up being town.
     
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    Of course, I'm super worried I'm going to be the one that's NK'd first out of the two of us. I've been largely townread by everyone so I'd be a good target, while more people have been suspicious of you. In some ways my only hope is that I'm not considered much a threat, because in that case they'll let me live until it gets more down to the wire when they only want suspicious/not as useful townies left.
     
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    Andddd now we have Malus in place of WSD. This will be interesting.
     
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    Z-Beats comment about Garnet and Jasper also liking to smash stuff made me laugh because the thought of us suspecting our fusion (B-Dubs) just because he and I are both vigs is hilarious, but I doubt it because I'm sure town B-Dubs would have just said no to be sugilite, unless that was just an out for him so people wouldn't keep asking what his flavor is.Though in that case I'm sure he would have just listed his flavor if they were a town one.
     
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    One weird thing I noticed (might be nothing) Z-beat said
    and when voting for nin to end the day he used a gif of Bismuth hammering.
     
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    ALSO also!!! Z-beat posted twice now at least two different gifs of Moonstone!
     
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    That could be hinting at something, but I don't remember that character if I'm being honest. What kind of character were they?
     
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    I had to go through most of the game to find them (why did I stop keep track of gifs after you found me???) but one thing I'll point out about Z is that he posts a ton of gifs of a variety of characters, but he also the only one that has really posted homeworld gems and hell he even posted that reaction gif of yellow diamond.

    Part of me wonders if he has breadcrumbed something in his gifs, he's just hiding it but posting a whole bunch.

    Anyways back to the actual reading, I'll wait to see what you think about these findings (I feel excited because I feel like I noticed something big but I might be wrong.) XD
     
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    Moonstone (both of them) are lawyers from homeworld. One is the prosecutor that always wins and the other is the defense attorney that always loses (because the diamonds always get what they want.
     
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    What I'm trying to say is I wonder if Z has a power connected to courts...? (I think there's like a judge role???) based on the two moonstone gifs, and the two mentions of hammering (yea know like a gavel ;D)
     
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    Hm. I've never heard of a judge role before, and I only see that in the Starcraft 2 version, so I dunno if we'll gain any insight there. Unless Monkey also played in the horrors that were SC2 mafia!

    There is this : https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lawyer

    But I dunno if they would breadcrumb a lawyer role since that seems very anti-town.
     
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    Interesting then. It's definitely something to think about or pay attention to with Z.
     
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    Okay I have finished my reads of Z and my quick analysis that is obvious is that Z has 118 comments currently but 90% are flavor talk, and suspecting B-Dubs, Exo, and a little Chuggs of being scum and that's it.
     
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    I'll also add that Z-Beat has weirdly aligned with Zeke on a lot of things.

    -He was the first one to wonder if B-Dubs killed Meatwad to frame Neeks and then Zeke supported it, expanding on it more.

    - Zeke suspected B-Dubs of being scum for this but voted Chuggs (which was consistent for him.)

    Z-Beat voted for exodus and suspected B-Dubs, but then switched to Chuggs when he thought that Chuggs was scum trying to push the train on oreo (which is weird as he also thought oreo would flip scum.

    -Both were actually on exodus' case at least at one point on day 2.

    - Finally Zeke asked what everyone thought on B-Dubs powers (which led to Stan voting for him), but thought it was weird that everyone was suspicious of exodus, but not B-Dubs.

    Z-Beat voted annoyance later on day 2 that everyone let B-Dubs off scott free but then he votes for Chuggs.
     
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    What I suspect at this point is that either Z's suspicions of Dubs are fake and they are both scum because Z never really stays on Dubs, or Zeke and Z were trying to set up Dubs because he's town and he made a mistake on who to smash.
     
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    Also he is tunneling so hard on Dubs and exo. The only times he has really mentioned other players have been minor and that makes it hard to get his reads on the other players.

    Here is the list of times he has mentioned peeps
    -Me because I might have faked an argument with exo (nope)
    -Thinks wee asked about stevonnie because they were connie even though wee wouldn't know connie is the other half as no one mentioned that ???
    -He thought oreo might be scum but thought Scum!Chuggs was busing him.
    -Chuggs for above.
    -Asked Stan to save Zeke if he's town because Zeke claimed to roleblock him.
    -When told he's tunneling too much, Z-Beat asks Saw if he should make a claim against her.
    -Believes that nin is Peridot and that makes exodus suspect due to lightning rod claim.
    -Votes for him so he could self hammer and turbo.
     
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    Anyways I have to leave to go drinking and have dinner. I'll be back on later and hopefully I'll be able to help out more XD
     
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    Don't worry, you've been doing more than enough already. You're making a very convincing argument here for Z-beat and honestly you should bring these up once the day starts tomorrow. Just that list right there + a callout towards him could get a train going, or at the very least lead to some answers. I'll absolutely support voting there, although I might not put it down immediately to see where other people are falling