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lokiduck

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General opinions so far:
Mao: All of this looks like a ploy to grab attention from everyone so the spotlight is on him so they can see he means business. I'm considering both the options that he really does want to Lunch Stan because of his role or that he is in fact not being serious about it and it's all an act to see people's reactions as he keeps insisting, see what people do about it.

nin: He's trying to be super nice and actively ask questions so he's coming off as town so we'll see how that goes for him in the scheme of things, mostly if people believe him.

Zeke: definitely seems more upbeat this game and is actually investigating a bit, though he has already had a few conspiracy theories and seems suspicious of Swamped when everyone else wants to give her a pass for now.

Swamped: I'm willing to believe her claim for now. At first i was confused why she claimed but then I looked up what millers actually do and now it makes sense. I also get Malus' question about her flavor because once I learned of the role, there was a character I was thinking she might be... (I don't have the greatest knowledge of LiS mostly because of watching an incomplete LP of the game.)

malus: it's interesting he focused on the flavor part of it, but I get why he would if he knows the characters.

Fireblend: Trying way to hard to blend in with younger people by using their hip new slang. XD

rac: Seems like normal rac so nothing surprising there.

Kitsunelaine: Seems like how she was in LB3 so far.

Everyone else is kind of a blur, and I'll mention them when they do more.

Edit: I changed Stan's name to nin because of a fuck up DX

He PM'd me and asked me to do it for him haha. I love that he actually went and played LiS for this game and now he's in there making references to it lol.

Awww that's cute. I do like that he played it too, and it shows a real dedication to the game.
 
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lokiduck

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I think B-Dubs so far has been asking some good questions, especially of Mao. Not sure what to think of him, but so far I like what he's asked.
 
Hello everyone. I'm spectating with you all. Does anyone have some popcorn?

Anyways, miller claim is interesting with so little players. It would make sense in the sense that town could shoot themselves in the foot.
 

lokiduck

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I nearly died in SU, not being able to edit my posts. Must have reread most of them at least three times.
 

Fanto

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Man, we aren't even 24 hours to EoD and there's already discussions about possible Scum Bombs!

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lokiduck

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The players keep wondering if Mao's actions are a scum ploy, but also dismissing it because why would scum be so obvious, but at the same time scum tries and pull crazy shit under the guise of "scum wouldn't do that" so who really knows. *shrug*

I'm willing to say that I don't think Mao is scum though, at least for now until I see more from him.
 

lokiduck

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Okay then, I was wondering why B-Dubs was asking how bombs work (mostly because I would assume he should know how that role works already), but what he just stated makes more sense with it.
 

Fanto

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B-Dubs said:
Well, that would explain the use for my role then. Here I thought it was totally useless.

Guys, I think we might have a scum bomber this game.
Oh this is too good lmao.

B-Dubs can't cast hammer votes.

No, there isn't a Scum bomb, his role is just a filler role basically, but I fucking love this lmao.
 
I don't get nin trusting Mao so easily. Like, I'm still unsure on him, but if there's one type of player I'd keep an eye on that would be a veteran of which you know nothing.

Unless they're partners and nin is the most transparent player this game.

Oh fuck in my read list I put Stan's name down for my read on nin DX

To be fair they had similar avatars not so long ago.
 

lokiduck

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I don't get nin trusting Mao so easily. Like, I'm still unsure on him, but if there's one type of player I'd keep an eye on that would be a veteran of which you know nothing.



To be fair they had similar avatars not so long ago.
That's true and at least absolves me a little bit of my mistake. =-=

I was thinking that out of all the people that have interacted with Mao, that nin is probably the most correct in that Mao might just be doing this to get reactions out of people, so his indifferent response makes sense.
 

lokiduck

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I have never seen melonrabbit play before so I don't know much about her, but so far I'd say she's being very chill and concise. How does she normally play like?
 

lokiduck

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Welp that's two full role claims (if true) on D1. That's one day early for B-Dubs compared to last game, but also one more claim than what happened in my game. XD
 

Fanto

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I have never seen melonrabbit play before so I don't know much about her, but so far I'd say she's being very chill and concise. How does she normally play like?
I don't even know if I have much of a meta on Melon. My two biggest memories about her involve ridiculous gambits, one of which I played a part in, both of which resulted in her death lol.

However, she's cool as fuck, and we are designing Easy Allies Mafia together, which is going to be quite the thing based on what we've worked out so far lol.
Welp that's two full role claims (if true) on D1. That's one day early for B-Dubs compared to last game, but also one more claim than what happened in my game. XD
Oh, did Dubs just claim? Lol, ok brb I wanna see.
 

Fanto

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Ok, so Dubs thinks his role is the counter to a Scum Bomb or something similar?

Well, I suppose minor spoilers for Scum roles if anyone is interested:
There is no Bomb.

Dubs just has a filler role, there's not really meant to be a use for it, it is kind of negative utility but it would never really hurt Town too much for him to have that power. Many people go entire games without casting a hammer vote...
 

cabot

Why.
Mao reminds me of batsnacks a bit actually. Wonder if his introduction will be as chaotic as batsnacks was in NX.
 
I'll echo the melonrabbit sentiment. Straight to the point, seems like the kind of player that can find small slips/contradictions.

I will have you know that this game is not just going to be wild, it's going to be H E L L A wild.

Is it true that LiS can feel like old people writing young characters at times? Can't remember where, but I feel like I read something along these lines.

The overuse of slang in the thread has been charming so far though.

However, she's cool as fuck, and we are designing Easy Allies Mafia together, which is going to be quite the thing based on what we've worked out so far lol.

You better tag me whenever this finally happens. I'd be devastated if I miss sign-ups.
 

Fanto

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Is it true that LiS can feel like old people writing young characters at times? Can't remember where, but I feel like I read something along these lines.

The overuse of slang in the thread has been charming so far though.
It's a common criticism of the first game yeah, but in my opinion though, it's part of the overall quirky/surreal vibe to the characters in the game that I think works really well. And for Max in particular, it just makes sense for her character that she tends to use outdated slang and not really understand why she sounds like a dork lol.
You better tag me whenever this finally happens. I'd be devastated if I miss sign-ups.
Me tagging you:

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lokiduck

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So it seems that Mao was definitely trying to cause an artificial Thunderdome. I'm curious to see how this works out for him in the end.
 
I like Mao's intention, not sure how it works out here though (if true).

There is something about Febe's post that rings my alarm bell.

Why in the world would Dubs claim here? BOMB was mentioned a bit too often by him. Seems like he wants to get a message across?
 

lokiduck

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I like Mao's intention, not sure how it works out here though (if true).

There is something about Febe's post that rings my alarm bell.

Why in the world would Dubs claim here? BOMB was mentioned a bit too often by him. Seems like he wants to get a message across?
Originally I thought he was a bomb defuser, which might make sense why he was asking about a bomb, but you are right that it doesn't really make sense for him to claim at this point considering all his ability means is that he can't hammer.

I also don't get why he needed to ask about bombs in the first place. I've only read/been in a few games and I figured out pretty quickly what a bomb role means.
 
If Febe and melon continue to push nin for his jumpy reads and vague explanations, we've found scum right there. They know how he plays, this argument reads artificial.
 

lokiduck

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You should read Kingdom Hearts Mafia sometime if you want to see a real, professional Bomb Defuser in action. Or for the short version, just check out these two posts lol.
As a fan of KH, I think I'll add that to my list of mafia to check out at some point. Thanks for the recommendation. XD
 

lokiduck

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Do you plan to read all the mafias suggested so far? If so that's a lot of reading haha. Just curious.
I plan on doing it when I have time at some point, I'm just not sure when (except probably between games actively going on). I just finished reading MafiEra which was a ton of reading, but as along as I enjoy reading them I might as well right?

I really enjoy good plot twists and mysteries to solve.
 

lokiduck

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Same lol I think that's probably one of the reasons that I got hooked on the game so quickly haha.
Have to admit though, it's a lot easier to do it when you are just spectating because then you can just sit back and relax at your own pace while you read through.

I enjoyed my first game but will not miss the more stressful points especially because I lived way longer than I expected ^^; We'll see how it goes with my next game though. XD
 

Fanto

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I just want to point out some fun flavor stuff for the spoiler crowd here so far:

Right now, Max and Chloe are leading the votes.

Dana and Juliet, BFFs, are voting together for Chloe.

Brooke is voting for Max.

Victoria is voting for Kate.

Nathan is voting for Warren.

This is almost too perfect so far lmao.
 

Fanto

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Swamped said:
If time zone was one of your factors for this vote, why not vote kits?

I'm not a fan of this pretend thunder dome that Mao is pushing us into. But if he comes forth with some good insights into other players' reactions based on it I'm all ears. It's what he's implying he's doing, but I haven't seen anything from him on this front yet.

Also, Aeleus didn't answer my question about who is lame in this game (i.e. Who is making this game "serious"), although they answered another question I asked after that. Care to elaborate?

Melon's arguments feel unnecessarily combative and as of yet, not productive. Maybe she is trying to get a rise out of mao. I kinda don't scum read this though.

I don't get the susp on nin. He feels like town nin to me. Also lol at the timing of the nin votes. At least, kits and Stan are likely not on the same mafia team.
This is the towniest post in the thread so far.

Just callin it like I see it lol.
 
Yeah Swamped is bringing some common sense into the game. To be honest I'm unsure of what to do with the whole Mao play and nin and Sparky being all over the place.

Quick comments;

Stantastic said:
This whole thing with Maol is just stupid. I thought he might be actually going somewhere with it but clearly not, and the one actual conclusion iv seen him draw is just plain incorrect.

so hey this was just a giant distraction, good job.

Meanwhile nin keeps insisting its been useful despite not making any actual use of any of it and something about this is really rubbing ne the wrong way.

vote: nin

This makes too much sense. But I'm cheering for nin, and you have to consider that;

Funky Dude Sparks said:
nin's behaviours not exactly AI meanwhile Maol's barking up Stan's tree for some absurd reason and even defending his meme (?) voter which is just the worst

That's right, that's nin for you. So, as pointed out earlier, Fireblend and melonrabbit jumping on him is a bit weird. But now we have Stan and Kitsunelaine too.

Verelios said:
This is a bad look Sparky

Stantastic said:
yet its something i can totally see him doing regardless of alignment.

NAI for Sparky too. So I don't really get how it serves any purpose until you get more information.

Swamped said:
I'm not a fan of this pretend thunder dome that Mao is pushing us into. But if he comes forth with some good insights into other players' reactions based on it I'm all ears. It's what he's implying he's doing, but I haven't seen anything from him on this front yet.

Maolfunction said:
And I'm withholding my insights for now on purpose. Wouldn't do any good to not try and drive people into the thunderdome if I'm giving away reasons to vote other people. If D2 comes and I'm still alive, I'll divulge what I think about today.

Not a fan either. It gives the idea that unless he has more information on the game state than he is willing to share, he shouldn't get anything more meaningful than any of the sharp town players on D1. And at that point, it'd be better to share if you have reason to suspect someone.

Swamped said:
On a second reading, this b-dubs statement feels off to me. He's the one who first brought up bombs, then asks about it, then just openly role claims with very little pressure? Why not just Google "forum mafia bomb", realize how useful your role is and keep it to yourself? We're you just trying to warn us that a mafia bomber could be in play?... But you didn't even know how a bomber worked. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something?

Honestly though I want to believe b-dubs' claim because it's a weird power for scum lol. Just want to make sure I understand the situation correctly.

Yes! Swamped is a new fave, especially now that it looks like nin won't survive for too long.

Kitsunelaine said:
and please, call it a Bandwagonin

Who cares about mystery and twists, this is the A+ content I signed up for.
 
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Hey everyone. Solid start so far with active players across the board and surprisingly few fluff posts for a D1. Getting excited for this.

cabot said it, Mao is too polarizing; and I don’t see him surviving much in the game, regardless of alignment. Pretty fun perspective though, town leaning so far.

B-Dubs claiming like that was weird (points for Swamped pointing it out), but I buy it as a town role. Although diferently from a “town defuser” like Zeke was in KH, it doesn’t mean a scum bomber is in the game.
 

Fanto

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So Pirate Bae is a moderator now, and you should all congratulate her, especially for officially having the best tag on ResetEra.

That is all. :)
 

lokiduck

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Lol took a nap because I didn't have to work tonight and nothing much happened while I'm gone so there wasn't much to catch up on at least.

I agree that what Swamped has said has made a lot of sense as I really do not get Mao's pretend Thunderdome at all. I also really do not get his flimsy excuse of voting for Stan just because of his time zone and while I assume it isn't the real reason for his vote, if it is then that's stupid and unfair.

It is a bit weird how people are piling on nin, but nin has also been playing a bit differently then usual so that doesn't help his case.

The same goes for B-Dubs who made a weird claim after asking about bombs and I'm glad people are discussing it in the thread. However, I have seen B-Dubs be suspicious twice (I even tunneled on him for a whole game) and claim early, so this isn't that different for him. I honestly assume he might be town.

Sparky seems to just being normal Sparks so nothing really there to say about his screw ups so far, just as Zeke is playing normally too.
 
I plan on doing it when I have time at some point, I'm just not sure when (except probably between games actively going on). I just finished reading MafiEra which was a ton of reading, but as along as I enjoy reading them I might as well right?

I really enjoy good plot twists and mysteries to solve.
There's longer ones than Mafiera, but you are right, some are tons of fun.
 
Why does everyone have a problem with Mao?

He already revealed everything there was to know in #309: "I want Stan lunched. Give me your gut reactions." He doesn't have any info, there is no ingame reason, it has nothing to do with timezones (other than having some time before Stan reacts, so people chime in first).
He purely stated this so people would have to react.
He's reading the room.
 
nin seems a good choice, I'd be going there today I think.
Why? Do you think his hyperactivity reads particularly scummy?

What do you think of Fireblend? His consice statements show a bit too much confidence so far *imo*, and some of his questions feel empty. So without much to go on, I'd definitely push there.
 

Fanto

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Feels like a slow approach to EoD here, hopefully things pick up soon.

I kind of doubt they'll actually vote for Nin, Mao, or Stan today tbh, so I have no idea where this is going to go or who's flip I'll be posting today lol.
 
I'm kind of surprised at how low the page count is, I expected more activity. Nin has the usual but I feel like others usually have more posts.
 

Fanto

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I'm kind of surprised at how low the page count is, I expected more activity. Nin has the usual but I feel like others usually have more posts.
Yeah, I would have at least expected some more posts from Kits and Zeke, I feel like they've both been quieter than usual for D1.

Maybe once some PRs get used tonight and some flips happen then we'll see some more stuff for everyone to talk about tomorrow.
 

Fanto

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Yeah, I would have at least expected some more posts from Kits and Zeke, I feel like they've both been quieter than usual for D1.
Hmm... spoilers lol:

Now that I think about it though, Kits has the Snitch role so she doesn't want to make herself an obvious night target for Scum. And Zeke, well, he's Scum, and in my experience at least, quieter Zeke is more indicative of a Scum Zeke.
 
Feels like a slow approach to EoD here, hopefully things pick up soon.
I kind of doubt they'll actually vote for Nin, Mao, or Stan today tbh, so I have no idea where this is going to go or who's flip I'll be posting today lol.
Ya, discussion fizzled and noboby is taking action. I'm interested in seeing if anyone (Mao) will create a wagon at the end. Otherwise Nin could be the go to lynch, because why not or a random choice in the end.

I'm kind of surprised at how low the page count is, I expected more activity. Nin has the usual but I feel like others usually have more posts.
Well, Verelios usually posts more. Kits might lay low because of past experiences with being too all over the place. Everyone else is up to par, I think.
 

Fanto

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Ya, discussion fizzled and noboby is taking action.
I feel like this would be a good topic to bring up in our strategy thread. Like, I know not everyone is in it to play as a "Town Leader" type, but if someone is Town, sees the game has stalled out, and they want to engage again, I could probably think of some tips based on my own experience.
 

lokiduck

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I'm really not sure about this train on nin as it really does feel like scum might be on him trying to take advantage of the train. While he certainly has been playing a bit weird as he does seem to be more calculated in how he responds to people, I don't really it as something scum him would do??? Wouldn't it make more sense for him to act like normal?
 

lokiduck

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Why does everyone have a problem with Mao?

He already revealed everything there was to know in #309: "I want Stan lunched. Give me your gut reactions." He doesn't have any info, there is no ingame reason, it has nothing to do with timezones (other than having some time before Stan reacts, so people chime in first).
He purely stated this so people would have to react.
He's reading the room.

I think it would have been fine if he had just explained that as his reasoning more instead of being so cryptic. People were asking him if he was voting because of his role and he cryptically answered promising to explain later. He has even said at this point that he'll explain on D2 if he lives that long, which is kind of annoying people because again he's not answering.
 

lokiduck

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It may be 3 AM for Stan right now, but he's doing a pretty good job holding his ground in his conversation with nin.
 

lokiduck

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Oh hey Mao pointed out that the train on Stan feels pretty weird, at least someone is. However I find it hilarious that he told Stan that he can see a possible reason why Stan is voting for nin compared to the others, yet he still is voting for him.
 
So Pirate Bae is a moderator now

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Congratulations!

It is a bit weird how people are piling on nin, but nin has also been playing a bit differently then usual so that doesn't help his case.

Do you think so? I'm a bit doubtful here because nin was mislunched last game for posting a lot and contradicting himself. Unsure if it's too different from SU nin.

Why does everyone have a problem with Mao?

He already revealed everything there was to know in #309: "I want Stan lunched. Give me your gut reactions." He doesn't have any info, there is no ingame reason, it has nothing to do with timezones (other than having some time before Stan reacts, so people chime in first).
He purely stated this so people would have to react.
He's reading the room.

Here's how I see it;
- He's forcing a thunderdome with someone he doesn't even mafia-read.
- He choose Stan for the timezone knowing that upsets him.
- He says he's getting something out of this but refuses to elaborate.

So basically "I don't really suspect him but want him dead, now how do you react good people?". If you're fishing for honest reactions, don't be that transparent. If you want to get a better understanding of the meta, there're plenty of games to read.

It reads as an overcomplicated ruse to get reactions that may not even be that useful, as Fireblend pointed out.
 

lokiduck

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Do you think so? I'm a bit doubtful here because nin was mislunched last game for posting a lot and contradicting himself. Unsure if it's too different from SU nin.
True. I guess the only real difference here is that nin is just at the risk of being lunched earlier than last time. >> I still feel that he seems a bit different from last time, just because he seems more nicer??? and trying to be more helpful then last game where he kept most of his opinions close to his chest.
 
Literally every time iv gone after nin for just weird obtuseness like this its been wrong. Like this exact bullshit happened 2 weeks ago in steven universe mafia
Thank you Stan.

Anyway at least people are taking stances now. Like Mao says, feels scum led.

Oh, Verelios newest post is making me feel even worse about him.
 

lokiduck

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Thank you Stan.

Anyway at least people are taking stances now. Like Mao says, feels scum led.

Oh, Verelios newest post is making me feel even worse about him.
Yep, I'm so happy Stan picked up that something was odd and decided to investigate further even though it's so late for him.

And yeah Verelios has been weird so far. I actually keep forgetting he's even playing as he hasn't had much of a presence so far. I've only seen him in one game so far, but I feel like he was more active on day 1.
 
Mao is constructing a case against Stan after voting him. And provoking him enough to get a vote in exchange.

If this is some distancing they're pretty convincing.

True. I guess the only real difference here is that nin is just at the risk of being lunched earlier than last time. >> I still feel that he seems a bit different from last time, just because he seems more nicer??? and trying to be more helpful then last game where he kept most of his opinions close to his chest.

Yeah I get what you mean. And Verelios can be right with his explanation of nin trying to fill a void.

To be fair I'm biased because I want nin to make it to endgame, but I have to agree with Stan and Mao that this is NAI for him.
 

lokiduck

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Mao is constructing a case against Stan after voting him. And provoking him enough to get a vote in exchange.

If this is some distancing they're pretty convincing.



Yeah I get what you mean. And Verelios can be right with his explanation of nin trying to fill a void.

To be fair I'm biased because I want nin to make it to endgame, but I have to agree with Stan and Mao that this is NAI for him.

I hadn't thought about this being the two of them distancing from each other :o but if it is the case, I would assume that Stan might have initally reacted more to the whole time zone thing, he actually seemed pretty calm compared to the other times, though that might just be exhaustion from this happening every single game he's in.

I honestly want nin to make it too endgame too, I can't help but find myself rooting for him. :o
 

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and if they vote out nin today I SWEAR TO GOD

They are literally just fixing on the player with the most posts. STOP.
 

heymonkey

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So you are not going to be a replacement anymore?

In either case, welcome Monkey! I'm glad you agree with us. XD
Nope, OA basically takes my place anyway, since his priority is over everyone. And I wanted to yell, since yelling is basically my hobby.

also tbh I need to make sure I make it into image mafia >.>
 

lokiduck

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Rac:
i think losing top posters on day one is a mistake

it's clear that when they are gone in this game discussion will plummet

don't do their job for them

Go rac Go!
 

heymonkey

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Anyway, I'm not getting weird vibes myself from Vere. Or rather I have come around to the notion that Vere is just going to maybe seem that way and to roll with it.

Dubs is one of the most suspect to me so far for contradictions but since much of that is role focused, I wouldn't vote him here, but I'd watch him. Tbh I would vote Sparks. He's much more engaged and coherent than usual and that screams scum to me.
 
Nope, OA basically takes my place anyway, since his priority is over everyone. And I wanted to yell, since yelling is basically my hobby.

also tbh I need to make sure I make it into image mafia >.>
Isn't Image mafia a mini? Aren't those treated differently?
 

heymonkey

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Isn't Image mafia a mini? Aren't those treated differently?
They don't add to priority but we still use priority to see who gets in. Every game does. No real other way to do it fairly.

And I agree that town needs some leadership but surely someone will step up starting with d2.
 

lokiduck

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I'm happy for Rac finding the fact that the top poster is being treated as a suspect, but then he went and voted for Sparks so that's a bit weird because I feel like so far Sparks is being very Sparks which is NAI, and might just be another train scum will take advantage of.
 

heymonkey

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I'm happy for Rac finding the fact that the top poster is being treated as a suspect, but then he went and voted for Sparks so that's a bit weird because I feel like so far Sparks is being very Sparks which is NAI, and might just be another train scum will take advantage of.
Nope, I support rac in this.

GO RAC GO
 
They don't add to priority but we still use priority to see who gets in. Every game does. No real other way to do it fairly.

And I agree that town needs some leadership but surely someone will step up starting with d2.
Oh I thought those were first come first serve.
 

lokiduck

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rac is so underrated.

And if Sparks IS scum, Mao's vig post looks mighty thought provoking.

Agree about rac, and Mao's vig comment is a bit weird especially since he says voting for Sparks is just an easy way out for scum as it'll come off as null. If Sparks does end up being scum then that'll def be a bad look for him even if he is in fact town.
 

lokiduck

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I'm having a hard time reading Malus, but I think most of that is because he has always been scum in the games I have seen him in so far.

He is asking decent questions at least?
 

lokiduck

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I still think it's a dick move if he genuinely just picked Stan because he knew Stan would be pissed.
 
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