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cabot

Why.
Do you really believe his claim completely? Unlimited sounds absurd. He's definitely leaving something out. That being said, I think he's town.

I don't really care if it's unlimited, its not a particularly useful power now it's a known entity (much more useful for scum if its kept to mid-late game). He's claimed he can use it once a day, so he can prove that.

Outside of the claim, I can buy the plan of 'act scummy to attract scum votes'. I'm actually sort of baffled by B-Dubs' shutdown of that. If you're not looking for non-scum players acting shifty as a scum then you're not playing the game properly.

rac has a better point of mao being too obvious which would make his plan less effective.

Still pretty sure of a Town read.
 

cabot

Why.
Interestingly, there is one weird thing that could be argued.

Mao clearly stated earlier he'd have preferred a No Lynch on D1 as he didnt like any of the candidates on the table.


Perfect opportunity to use his power then, reboot the votes towards day end.


Why didn't he do that?
 

cabot

Why.
I think malus would probably top my 'most likely scum on Mao wagon' list.

I do agree with rac though, that Mao was too obvious and it's a credible point that scum may have hesitated voting him. So I maybe wouldn't push malus today.


It's because malus is playing pretty sensibly, and a sensible scum play would to see Mao's D1 actions and go after it, because it was pretty justified. Then once Mao had claimed he was certain he was town.


This is on top of his doubt of the Miller claim. There's little bits and pieces of stuff he's saying that implies he knows more about the game setup than a normal townie would.
 

cabot

Why.
I'm not buying this push by Stan on Mao. Can read it as a scum trying to keep a target viable for later game when it'll be more useful.

melon is even less convincing. She's not made a case as to why Mao is more likely scum than not other than 'gamerunner is wild' which is a bad reason.

kits just seems to be wanting to be contradictory for reasons so that's NAI, albeit frustrating.
 
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lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Do you really believe his claim completely? Unlimited sounds absurd. He's definitely leaving something out. That being said, I think he's town.

I'm willing to believe his claim because the power fits Max pretty good, I do think however that he is lying how many shots he has purposely to try and bait a night kill like most peeps do when they reveal to have a power.

Also getting a serious laugh about Mao not understanding how common fake claims are in this community. I've only seen a few game so far, but there have been a lot of ballsy claims made and at really weird times.
 

cabot

Why.
After all that back and forth, Mao isn't even a person of interest in Stans invest/kill/protect post.

So what was the point of his argument?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, since I was fucking ASLEEP instead of here to post the HELLA COOL posts I had ready for the REWIND power, I guess I'll just post them in here instead.

The First Post:
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DAY 2 ENDS

PLEASE WAIT

YOU MAY CONTINUE PLAYING SHORTLY



The Second Post:
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The events of the day have been rewound!

The votes have now been reset to zero.


DAY 2.5 BEGINS

Vote Tool:
https://vote.fireblend.com/128822/

Majority is 7

Day 2.5 will still end at the same time:
1wpc5y483w
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
To answer some questions about Mao's power for anyone interested:

It's a 1-Shot power, and he is Town, and he is Max. I don't understand why people would want to vote for him still, that makes no sense to me at all, but whatever I guess.
 
Perfect opportunity to use his power then, reboot the votes towards day end.
Why didn't he do that?
Maybe there is some kind of time limitation on his power.

So what was the point of his argument?
For me it looks like Stan was eager to show Mao some of our meta, and how he has to expect the unexpected here. Just for discussion's sake. I don't think it's overly scummy. I expect Stan to drop his suspicion and be a bit more rational.

Now Sparks however... I'd just lynch him. Sorry not sorry.

Furthermore I think scum!melon wouldn't go all in on this claim. Why go this confrontational on a harmless power? This is probably town!melon being a bit stubborn.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
To answer some questions about Mao's power for anyone interested:

It's a 1-Shot power, and he is Town, and he is Max. I don't understand why people would want to vote for him still, that makes no sense to me at all, but whatever I guess.
Oh, and there is one other thing I forgot to mention about Mao's power:

He can't use it less than 1 hour before EoD. I saw some people in the game thread and in here speculating on that. Yeah, I'm not that mean, we put a restriction on that at least.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
//is there any way to disable GIFs/images on OM? I have to watch my mobile data for a few days
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there is. I don't see any of the options that Era has for images in the account preferences. :(
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I can try to not post any huge gifs in here though haha, though knowing myself, I can't promise I won't. :P
 

cabot

Why.
Oh, and there is one other thing I forgot to mention about Mao's power:

He can't use it less than 1 hour before EoD. I saw some people in the game thread and in here speculating on that. Yeah, I'm not that mean, we put a restriction on that at least.

so he's baiting a night kill I suppose. I think his play was fairly good in theory, though the execution was abit lacking.
 

cabot

Why.
The lie about his uses will probably get him voted out. The power isn't so dangerous tosscum that they'll nk him anytime soon, so he'll attractall suspicion when he can't do it again.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The lie about his uses will probably get him voted out. The power isn't so dangerous tosscum that they'll nk him anytime soon, so he'll attractall suspicion when he can't do it again.
Yeah, I'm not sure it was the best idea to lie about the power. He could have just come completely clean and, if Town had any sense in them, they would realize that the protagonist of the game is probably Town, especially since they used a public command in the thread that had a tangible effect on the game. But I'm interested to see how this all plays out now.

Also, I have to say, I did not expect someone to use this power and then still be the vote leader afterwards lol.

Making/running a game is hilarious, because in your head you think "And everything will go like this, and it will be perfect and great!" and then in reality it's like "What? Why the fuck are they doing that? Wait, no stop, what are you guys doing!?"
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Unlimited data plan over here! /flex

Actually just recently upgraded to that, my sister has two kids and they like to use her phone/iPad in the car, and she was always going over in data, so we decided to go for unlimited instead haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
How much pay for that? Curious.
It's one of the Verizon plans, me, my sister, and my parents are all on the same plan, it's like $40 a month per phone I think? It ended up being a little cheaper than what we had before I think because me and my dad both have older phones, so it was a good upgrade.

Mobile plan chat!
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
unfortunate for maol to pick Stan for his plan, once you ruffle his feathers he won't get out of you
 
It's one of the Verizon plans, me, my sister, and my parents are all on the same plan, it's like $40 a month per phone I think? It ended up being a little cheaper than what we had before I think because me and my dad both have older phones, so it was a good upgrade.

Mobile plan chat!
That's just for data or talk, SMS and data? If it's all 3 then it's cheap.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
oh Stan let go of his tunnel, neat. I wonder what alignment melon is, one of the few persons I am not spoiled of or easy to infer( I know sparks is mafia, swamp the SK and infer febe is scum too)
 
oh Stan let go of his tunnel, neat. I wonder what alignment melon is, one of the few persons I am not spoiled of or easy to infer( I know sparks is mafia, swamp the SK and infer febe is scum too)
Iirc it's Febe ezekel and Sparks, swamped being the sk
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
That's just for data or talk, SMS and data? If it's all 3 then it's cheap.
It's all three yeah. It was a couple months ago that we went for it. We used to have a shared data plan, and then each extra phone on the plan added another like $20 bucks a month to it or something, but we were always going over data on it and paying more. Then I think switching to this kept us around the same total or a bit cheaper, but only until me and my dad upgrade our phones again I think, I can't remember why but I remember it being said lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well nevermind, Swamped saw a chance for another 3-way tie and she just couldn't help herself I guess lol. :P
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
if they mislunch today, as it will likely happen, I think swamped will aim for scum at night, I wonder if she will hit, without scum flips everyone is well hidden
 
It's all three yeah. It was a couple months ago that we went for it. We used to have a shared data plan, and then each extra phone on the plan added another like $20 bucks a month to it or something, but we were always going over data on it and paying more. Then I think switching to this kept us around the same total or a bit cheaper, but only until me and my dad upgrade our phones again I think, I can't remember why but I remember it being said lol.
Nice, I would've gotten that plan if I lived there, when my data ran out I had to pay 6 euros for 1 gb which seems pretty expensive to me.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
if they mislunch today, as it will likely happen, I think swamped will aim for scum at night, I wonder if she will hit, without scum flips everyone is well hidden
Scum spoilers:
I wouldn't be surprised if she shoots at least two Scum members for Town. I think only one of them has her fooled (the Simon Says flashbacks, oh no...), and I'm not sure if she'll want to only aim at Townies during the night when Town can easily feast on themselves during the day, and she needs at least two Scum dead to win.

Also one funny thing from Scum chat, Sparks suggested Roleblocking Swamped tonight, I think he had brought up on D1 that she might be a Neutral in there, and Febe was just like "Why would you roleblock a Miller?" and I'm just like "Oh, buddy..." lol.
 
Yay for the activity! And those gifs are great Fanto, a shame you couldn't post them.

Kitsunelaine said:
i like how everyone has their own target. this game is messy in a way I don't think I've seen before. Usually everyone's gravitating towards one player by now.

This so much. This game gives me the sense of a lot of players going in different directions. That should be common in early phases though, but for some reason other games have players centered around a couple of things per day. Or that's how it felt. Dunno.

rac said:
max is not scum people come on

also im gonna have to agree with this

its p obvious you were planning something mao

Agreed, Mao was a bit too transparent with the "I'm fishing for reactions" for mafiosi to play along so easily.

Although now that he has explained his ploy I feel a lot better about him. Max is the protagonist if I got this right, and Fanto wouldn't have the heart to make her a baddie right? No counter-claim either. Unless she wasn't included for some twisted reason, like making her a safe claim.

Stantastic said:
the claim as max helps a tidbit but if the last game taught any lesson at all its flavor is rarely reliable

We need a flavor stan hero here, the equivalent of what Z-Beat did last game.

Stantastic said:
i am so happy that this game caught on.

really should have figured out how to monetize it first tho.

Stantastic said:
yes. he was walking about the votes.

he took the vote tool out for a walk.

Maolfunction said:
I'm going to bed, lol.

Kitsunelaine said:
are you going to bed or is the bed claiming you for it's own nefarious purposes

Fireblend said:
Anyway. Looking back at my reads, very little had happened to change them up until mao claimed. The lack of a counter-claim for Max pretty much confirms him as town, as far as I'm concerned. I really disagree with his methods and his conclusions (how in the world that was payoff for D1's Stan tunnel I will never know) but I'm moving him to town in my reads. Heavily side-eyeing everyone voting him after his claim and that includes Kits who I had been voting before the rewind and I'm still tempted to vote for.

Out of the current wagons, I disagree with Mao being one and I would vote for B-Dubs given that his maneuvering about the bomb thing has been really off. As for Melon, I'm trying to understand the lynch. I can see them as coasting scum I guess, but I'm surprised to see them part of a three way tie at this point. Mao's reasons for reading her as scum really depend on the self-importance he placed on his play and I don't buy that scum would be more likely to vote for him than town. Swamped's vote is meh. As for stan:

I'm curious, since you just read through her posts, did you gather anything from our discussion with nin regarding his blindly following mao's play and calling his melon scumread "solid" after her bickering with Mao? Where are you nin ? Hope everything's alright!

For now I'm gonna return my vote to where it was, and will switch to B-Dubs if needed.

Vote: Kitsunelaine

My read on her remains true + is now being bolstered by her vote on mao:

How do people feel about Kits? Swamped just said they trust her because why would scum make such a bad play (lol), but I'd like to hear some more feedback.
Fireblend you're speaking with common sense but come on. We need Kitsunelaine and Stan for the dumb humor, don't lunch them this early.​

By the way, as has been said, melonrabbit seems like a player than can catch interesting stuff in the phrasing of things. But it really feels like she's commenting from the sidelines at what she doesn't like rather than taking a more proactive approach.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
We need a flavor stan hero here, the equivalent of what Z-Beat did last game.
I think if anyone brings the flavor to the discussions, it will probably be Rac since he just played LiS for the first time lol. There are plenty of others in the game who seem familiar with the flavor though, Fireblend has played, Swamped has played, I think Melon has played, Nin played the first episode, probably others have too since the first ep is free.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum Spoilers:

Oof, Scum could probably spin that last post from Malus to look pretty bad in the event of a Sparks Scum flip. He kind of waffled there saying he'd be ok taking him out, but that he thinks he's least likely to be Scum on the Mao voters. Not a good look.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
a 3-way vote is good and almost everyone is voting, if only there were scum among it... another reason to vote and waffle often

Also what happens to bdubs if he is the last vote on the lunch? He dies?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
//is there any way to disable GIFs/images on OM? I have to watch my mobile data for a few days

yeah lol my data ran out yesterday and I had to pay to buy more.
I'll pass this suggestion along to the two people that actually make tweaks to OM itself as opposed to just futzing with permissions and boards like myself. No clue if it's possible or what without being a nightmare but at least they'll be informed.
 
Fireblend / swamped / melon would add up nicely as a team. I'm not even scum reading 2/3 of them, but it's possible.

Mhm, Cabot's comments got me thinking about malus, but I can't wrap my head around it.

Edit: again, rac/kits/Mao/nin as town.
Melon/Stan as lean town
Zeke/Aeleus as null
Dubs/Malus/Sparks as lean scum
Febe as scum

Still unsure where to put Swamped.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
a 3-way vote is good and almost everyone is voting, if only there were scum among it... another reason to vote and waffle often

Also what happens to bdubs if he is the last vote on the lunch? He dies?
I don't end the day if B-Dubs hammers. So technically it's a way for him to prove his role because I wouldn't count that vote.
 
I hope that at least the top row is correct, it's sth. to work with. Looking forward to see how ridiculously wrong I was :)

And I just remembered one game in which melon was coasting scum, not posting at all (can't recall the name though). Why do I want her to be town?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Sorry again for giving away at least one thing in here without tagging it, I do really enjoy seeing everyone's reads/thoughts and I'm looking forward to seeing how they develop. :)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Alignment spoilers
Mao: Yeah, I'm Max Caulfied, the protagonist of Life is Strange. I just proved it to you all by literally rewinding time, like she does in the game.
Town: Ok, but I still think you are Scum though.
Me:
0H43pUw.gif
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Alignment spoilers
Mao: Yeah, I'm Max Caulfied, the protagonist of Life is Strange. I just proved it to you all by literally rewinding time, like she does in the game.
Town: Ok, but I still think you are Scum though.
Me:
0H43pUw.gif

Flavor is just flavor, we had many games where good guys were mafia and evil guys were town.

Though I wouldn't think that PR was a scum one.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Flavor is just flavor, we had many games where good guys were mafia and evil guys were town.

Though I wouldn't think that PR was a scum one.
Yeah I think it's mainly the role part that makes me facepalm a bit haha. They don't have any clues as to what the flavor of Scum is yet, but I don't think I would be scum reading a proven role like that this early.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hi Dubs! Sorry again if you were confused by your role, just meant to be a kind of filler role among the Madness, so to speak.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
if swamped hits town I think town will be on the bridge of defeat, there would be 10 players left, 6 town 3 scum 1 SK
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
if swamped hits town I think town will be on the bridge of defeat, there would be 10 players left, 6 town 3 scum 1 SK
Early Night Actions/Role Spoilers:
The Cop has already put in an investigation on a Scum player, and not their GF, so the PRs could still save the day.

The problem being, they aren't an ordinary Cop, they are a Careless Cop, aka an Amnesiac Cop, so their results are sent to a random player, meaning the results could be given to another Scum player...
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Fireblend / swamped / melon would add up nicely as a team. I'm not even scum reading 2/3 of them, but it's possible.

Mhm, Cabot's comments got me thinking about malus, but I can't wrap my head around it.

Edit: again, rac/kits/Mao/nin as town.
Melon/Stan as lean town
Zeke/Aeleus as null
Dubs/Malus/Sparks as lean scum
Febe as scum

Still unsure where to put Swamped.
I dunno. I can't see Melon as scum here, because scum Melon is wild and she's a lot more subdued here. I do have suspicions about Swamped/Febe/Malus and feel they could be a team, though maybe not Swamped/Malus.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Early Night Actions/Role Spoilers:
The Cop has already put in an investigation on a Scum player, and not their GF, so the PRs could still save the day.

The problem being, they aren't an ordinary Cop, they are a Careless Cop, aka an Amnesiac Cop, so their results are sent to a random player, meaning the results could be given to another Scum player...
I forgot there were a cop and GF in play, I like that modifier too
 

cabot

Why.
hmmm, currently town are in a bit of a funk. The likely targets for the next day don't look like scum to me.


I think some Night Actions are the only way to help here.
 
Things are tough for town
The whole game here is the cop and swamped, if swamped hits town twice and they mislynch again it's over. Or if cop results go to scum
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Just caught up because I went to my local pride event (it was a lot of fun BTW) and I'm not surprised to see B-Dubs get lunched and turn out as town because that unfortunately seems to happen to him a lot. (Sorry about that last game B-Dubs BTW)

I'm honestly surprised and a tad annoyed that they left Sparks alone because he is really coming off as scummy to me or at least a misguided townie just following other townies around and isn't really helping.

I'm really surprised why so many people voted on Mao because he definitely comes off as town to me now with that claim so I suspect that scum was one of the peeps trying to get him still lunched.

Melon hasn't posted that much but I think there is a possibility she could actually be town, but I need to see more from her first.

I think nin's right about sparks and I am disappointed no one else was willing to vote for him.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just caught up because I went to my local pride event (it was a lot of fun BTW)
Yay, glad you had fun!
and I'm not surprised to see B-Dubs get lunched and turn out as town because that unfortunately seems to happen to him a lot.
Yes, that does seem to happen too often unfortunately.

Not if we are playing a game where we can only post gifs though. For as much as he likes to bring up Bae fake claiming as a Cop, I seem to remember a certain someone trying to tell us he was a Cop in a certain game where we could only post gifs! Lol :P
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also, some more Night Actions/Role Spoilers, no player names:

So far, here's what I've gotten in:
The Cop is targeting the Mafia JoaT.

The Mafia are killing the Town Motivator. They seem open to others though, so the kill isn't set in stone.

The Mafia Roleblocker is targeting the Town Watcher, who already used their one shot.

The Serial Killer is targeting the Town Drug Dealer, which is a Fruit Vendor with a flavorful name.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yay, glad you had fun!

Yes, that does seem to happen too often unfortunately.

Not if we are playing a game where we can only post gifs though. For as much as he likes to bring up Bae fake claiming as a Cop, I seem to remember a certain someone trying to tell us he was a Cop in a certain game where we could only post gifs! Lol :P

At least in SU he lasted until near the end of the game before he got voted out. XD

And thanks! It was good getting to hang with my friends in my community. Also won a cool Skull shaped shot glass that was made by that vodka company that does the fancy skull bottles and bought a cool rock in the shape of a skull (this was before I won the other one). XD
 
Also, some more Night Actions/Role Spoilers, no player names:

So far, here's what I've gotten in:
The Cop is targeting the Mafia JoaT.

The Mafia are killing the Town Motivator. They seem open to others though, so the kill isn't set in stone.

The Mafia Roleblocker is targeting the Town Watcher, who already used their one shot.

The Serial Killer is targeting the Town Drug Dealer, which is a Fruit Vendor with a flavorful name.
The what now?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
One more night action in, nothing else has changed:

The Town Drug Dealer is targeting the Town Coroner, so they will receive a message saying they were dealt some drugs by them, and that the drugs do nothing.

However, as noted above, the Serial Killer is killing the Drug Dealer tonight as well, so it won't be of much help for the Coroner's reads unfortunately...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
One more night action in, nothing else has changed:

The Town Drug Dealer is targeting the Town Coroner, so they will receive a message saying they were dealt some drugs by them, and that the drugs do nothing.

However, as noted above, the Serial Killer is killing the Drug Dealer tonight as well, so it won't be of much help for the Coroner's reads unfortunately...
And one more note:

If anyone read this and went "The hell is a Coroner?" well, a Coroner is an investigative role that can target a dead player and receive some kind of result. In review, we decided to make it so that our Coroner will receive the flavor name of the person who killed their target. This mostly isn't going to help, since Scum and the SK have fake flavor claims, but if the moons were to align, there are a couple ways for it to be useful. One way would be combining it with possible info from the Watcher to catch someone in a lie. Another way is that one of Scum's fake claims is a 1-Shot Vig, and if they were to claim their fake flavor and their fake claim on their own kill, the Coroner could prove they are lying about their flavor.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Night action update?
Just posted above:
One more night action in, nothing else has changed:

The Town Drug Dealer is targeting the Town Coroner, so they will receive a message saying they were dealt some drugs by them, and that the drugs do nothing.

However, as noted above, the Serial Killer is killing the Drug Dealer tonight as well, so it won't be of much help for the Coroner's reads unfortunately...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh missed,
when do u determine the cop rng, when actions lock or is it predetermined?
I'm planning to do it when actions lock, just so I make sure I'm not sending it to someone who dies, because that would just make it pointless. I'm planning to randomize a list of the remaining players, minus the cop and their target, and then whoever comes out on top is the lucky winner.
 
I'm planning to do it when actions lock, just so I make sure I'm not sending it to someone who dies, because that would just make it pointless. I'm planning to randomize a list of the remaining players, minus the cop and their target, and then whoever comes out on top is the lucky winner.
yeah that's one way to do it
 
Short on time, unfortunate for B-Dubs to be lynched over the bomb mentioning... but that narrows it down more.

Swamped opened another tie and Fire was again swinging it against a townie.

Predicting rac death and everyone will go for Mao because reasons.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Final Night Action Results (no player names):

RIP to the Town Motivator and the Town Drug Dealer.

The Cop check did go out on the Mafia JoaT.

The player who received the results of the investigation is the Town Watcher.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
spoilers of everything:

I want to see how rac will play this

Come forward with it from the beginning or wait to see what the scum does first
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
That's a role I'd love to do one day
Yeah, I had a modified SK role in House of Horrors, and I was SO PUMPED, and then Scum shot me on N1 lol womp womp.
spoilers of everything:

I want to see how rac will play this

Come forward with it from the beginning or wait to see what the scum does first
Same, I could see him waiting a bit maybe. I think it will also be interesting to see who claims first, the Cop or Rac.
 
Yeah, I had a modified SK role in House of Horrors, and I was SO PUMPED, and then Scum shot me on N1 lol womp womp.

Same, I could see him waiting a bit maybe. I think it will also be interesting to see who claims first, the Cop or Rac.
The cop will probably stay silent, I don't see a reason to claim yet.
 
Was Malus killed by a vig? Surprised they went for nin. Could be because of sparks or wifom.

I'd lynch fireblend today and sparks afterwards
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The flavor of this game is pretty dark so far lol.

Only using flavor names, but it's still major spoilers:

Victoria, Nathan, and Jefferson all teamed up to vote out Kate on D1, and now Nathan shot Chloe on N2. Dear god, I need to go lie down lol.
 
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lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
It really does suck that nin was killed (I was rooting for you honestly), but at least now that Chloe has flipped town maybe scum can't try and argue that Max is scum (which might get Mao NK'd for being confirmed town if they really believe he's Max after he lied about how many shots he has.)
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
well this is some swing, if as common sense dictates they lunch fireblend this phase, I think town will have the upper hand as the cop claim will be a confirmed townie who trusts rac and viceversa
 
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