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nin1000

Chilean German Madman
oh and @Fantomas. My avatar was taken from this pretty image
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turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
All this time I thought Chloe was the MC, just going by avatar popularity :eyes:
 
I'm wondering what the game maol mentioned was, the 40 person bastard game with the NPC Tom Nook, did a brief search but couldn't find it.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
*Face Palm* Chloe has been revealed to be town but Kits still thinks Max is scum and was being protected by scum.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
All this time I thought Chloe was the MC, just going by avatar popularity :eyes:
I wanted to dress up my avatar as Max, but the brown hair looked strange on the teal of my avatar.

Also I just read the spoilers and I'm so mad right now.
"Miller is totally a believable claim", "Why would you doubt a miller claim?", "You must be scum for doubting that claim!" AARGH!
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Rac has been doing really good, but I also like a lot of the questions Zeke has been asking people. He definitely seems engaged in scumhunting.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also I just read the spoilers and I'm so mad right now.
"Miller is totally a believable claim", "Why would you doubt a miller claim?", "You must be scum for doubting that claim!" AARGH!
I realized a bit after she sent in the kill on you that that was probably the reason why lol.

And yes, good instincts, it was the fake claim I decided to provide her with if she wanted to use it. It's actually proven rather useful, but at the end of the day it was all down to how Town chose to deal with it if she chose to claim it, and so far they are basically just choosing to forget about it.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think the stars have aligned for swamped, at night scum will have their hands full with rac and the cop, sparks will be next in the chopping block,

10 players, febe lunched, townie NK'd(rac or cop), townie SK'd -> 7 players(4, 2, 1) there they would lunch sparks over her and only the godfather Zeke would be left alive, that is the best scum role to keep hidden for her miller claim

I doubt sparks will survive after FB falls so D5 would have only 4 players, 2 townies, Zeke and swamps and if she avoids being luncheon there I think she wins?

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think the stars have aligned for swamped, at night scum will have their hands full with rac and the cop, sparks will be next in the chopping block,

10 players, febe lunched, townie NK'd(rac or cop), townie SK'd -> 7 players(4, 2, 1) there they would lunch sparks over her and only the godfather Zeke would be left alive, that is the best scum role to keep hidden for her miller claim

I doubt sparks will survive after FB falls so D5 would have only 4 players, 2 townies, Zeke and swamps and if she avoids being luncheon there I think she wins?

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Yep, I was talking about this a bit in modchat before the day started.

Basically, if both Scum and the SK continue to shoot at Town instead of each other, it can get down to a 2-1-1 MyLo scenario where Town basically can't win, unless they No Lunch and the SK and Mafia shoot each other, which is highly unlikely.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
maol is a saint lol he takes it very well being tunneled all game
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
I wanted to dress up my avatar as Max, but the brown hair looked strange on the teal of my avatar.

Also I just read the spoilers and I'm so mad right now.
"Miller is totally a believable claim", "Why would you doubt a miller claim?", "You must be scum for doubting that claim!" AARGH!
If it makes you feel better...

I was cheering you on!
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
well I think maol is closer to being lunched than sparks next phase given the current situation, fb did well defending him
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
well it may have gotten heated, but now it seems the game has gotten quiet again. XD
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Oh shit Stan's the town coroner which means he's town :o I don't click on spoilers except for the night action ones and that's who malus gave his drugs too. :O
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Stantastic said:
Oh also, anyone want some drugs?

Malus gave me some ladt night, which was pretty exciting until i saw how thry dont do anything.

The hell kinda drug dealer sells dud drugs.

A Townie one i guess but still. Dissapointing.
I mean, he could still RP with the drugs if he wants to, they are his, he got the PM. They just don't have any tangible effect on the game, that's all. :P
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh shit Stan's the town coroner which means he's town :o I don't click on spoilers except for the night action ones and that's who malus gave his drugs too. :O
Ah, yeah sorry about that. The claims will kind of end up spoiling the role spoilers eventually, since if someone says something I didn't say, you will probably know that one is a lie...
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Ah, yeah sorry about that. The claims will kind of end up spoiling the role spoilers eventually, since if someone says something I didn't say, you will probably know that one is a lie...
I'm totally cool with it. All your spoiler tags are so juicy and enticing, but so far I have managed to resist most of them but figure the night action ones would be reasonable to look at.

It's my own fault if I put two and two together. Besides some people could be lying about what happened. XD
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm totally cool with it. All your spoiler tags are so juicy and enticing, but so far I have managed to resist most of them but figure the night action ones would be reasonable to look at.

It's my own fault if I put two and two together. Besides some people could be lying about what happened. XD
Yeah, I remember feeling the same way in spec chat for The Mansion. I had to tap out on like N3 or something haha.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah, I remember feeling the same way in spec chat for The Mansion. I had to tap out on like N3 or something haha.
Honestly I think it will be worse when I sit in on modchat on another game in prep for my own game just because I'll learn all the spoilers right away.

I'm a sucker for spoilers (partly because I don't want to have to look back at previous spoilers to see what I missed) so I'm sure eventually I'll cave fully.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Honestly I think it will be worse when I sit in on modchat on another game in prep for my own game just because I'll learn all the spoilers right away.

I'm a sucker for spoilers (partly because I don't want to have to look back at previous spoilers to see what I missed) so I'm sure eventually I'll cave fully.
Yeah, SU was the first time I've known full spoilers from the start, so this is two times in a row that I've been able to watch a game from this vantage point.

It is fun being able to observe things like this I think. It helps me to figure out how Scum interact with each other during the day, and what is actually indicative of Scum behavior vs. what are things that are more NAI than they are scummy. It's also helping me with spotting scummy votes, being able to really pay attention to how they differ from townie ones, or at least some common patterns that I've picked up on that seem more likely to be indicative of a scummy vote I suppose.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah, SU was the first time I've known full spoilers from the start, so this is two times in a row that I've been able to watch a game from this vantage point.

It is fun being able to observe things like this I think. It helps me to figure out how Scum interact with each other during the day, and what is actually indicative of Scum behavior vs. what are things that are more NAI than they are scummy. It's also helping me with spotting scummy votes, being able to really pay attention to how they differ from townie ones, or at least some common patterns that I've picked up on that seem more likely to be indicative of a scummy vote I suppose.
That's neat and not something I had considered. Might be interesting to see what I see.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm heading to bed now, probably should have like an hour ago, but I just wanted to say thanks to everyone hanging out in here for making it a fun place to chill. I've been feeling like shit and kind of lonely lately just due to life stuff, and running the game has been a good escape but also kind of stressful, but it's still fun to come in here and joke around/reminisce about past games or see people's reads/thoughts on this game so yeah, I really appreciate all the enthusiasm in here. <3
 
I'm heading to bed now, probably should have like an hour ago, but I just wanted to say thanks to everyone hanging out in here for making it a fun place to chill. I've been feeling like shit and kind of lonely lately just due to life stuff, and running the game has been a good escape but also kind of stressful, but it's still fun to come in here and joke around/reminisce about past games or see people's reads/thoughts on this game so yeah, I really appreciate all the enthusiasm in here. <3
Hope you feel better soon. But yeah running a game is always fun.
 

cabot

Why.
I wanted to dress up my avatar as Max, but the brown hair looked strange on the teal of my avatar.

Also I just read the spoilers and I'm so mad right now.
"Miller is totally a believable claim", "Why would you doubt a miller claim?", "You must be scum for doubting that claim!" AARGH!
For me it was less you doubting the Miller and more you doubting the Miller instantly after claiming with no further evidence.

There wasn't really a good reason why you'd suspect a Miller after swampeds claim, made me suspect you knew more about the game than everyone else. I was split between you being a cop of some form vs scum as well.
 
I'm probably way too deep into my idea, but

Fireblend + Swamped + Sparks would be my guess.

I'm wary of Aeleus, especially because of the reaction at day start. They fit the low coaster scum bill, but they could be the vig.
 
I'd go for one of Fireblend or aeleus today I think.

Think there's a good chance of hitting scum.
Yeah, I'm most suspicious of Fire. Town has two chances to hit scum before they lose. I think those are good targets.


Edit: rac got the right idea!
 
Vig talk: Aeleus+Zeke and an offside mention from Fireblend.

Mao comes in and immediatly draws attention to Malus being convinced of him. Nin was obviously in favour of Mao. Kill two players to frame one single target? This feels like a scum ploy. Scum!Mao could probably pull this. But I think it's more likely for Aeleus to be the vig shooting malus. And nin was the maf kill, because he wasn't really in contention (maybe even rolecoped before, who knows he left some big hints d1). Rac was probably blocked and left alive.
 
townie: rac, kits
mao
stan, zeke
aeleus, melon, swamped
sparks
scummie bears: #1Febe

argh, It feels like people are getting away with far too much. Stan and Zeke were never really under any suspicion, if they are scum they got away so easily.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Okay so yeah, been a busy week (due to ya know, getting married last Tuesday) and only just now catching up on the game. Skimmed a lot of it but I think I get most of what's gone down. And of course the last page of what I read was heated stuff.

Fun stuff so far though.
Congrats on the marriage!

And I agree, it's been a very interesting game so far.
 
Soooo
6 town-3 scum-1 sk, they lynch Fireblend today 100%, 6-2-1, Mafia shoots rac probably, sk kills not rac. 4-2-1, assuming they lynch sparks, mafia then probably goes for the claimed cop, sk goes for someone else. 2-1-1. Now it's a 50/50, they either lynch swamped because they have to or they realize zeke is scum. Either way I don't think town will win this if Swamped doesn't go for the obvious kill(rac/cop)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Soooo
6 town-3 scum-1 sk, they lynch Fireblend today 100%, 6-2-1, Mafia shoots rac probably, sk kills not rac. 4-2-1, assuming they lynch sparks, mafia then probably goes for the claimed cop, sk goes for someone else. 2-1-1. Now it's a 50/50, they either lynch swamped because they have to or they realize zeke is scum. Either way I don't think town will win this if Swamped doesn't go for the obvious kill(rac/cop)
Yeah, the 2-1-1 is the worst spot for Town to end up in. They basically need Swamped to shoot at Scum for them, or for Scum to try to shoot Swamped to have a chance going into the final days, otherwise the numbers just don't work for them in endgame.
 
I don't think scum ever shoots swamped, miller claim will be lynched late so they would rather wait for that, might be wrong though
 
Honestly I think it will be worse when I sit in on modchat on another game in prep for my own game just because I'll learn all the spoilers right away.

I'm a sucker for spoilers (partly because I don't want to have to look back at previous spoilers to see what I missed) so I'm sure eventually I'll cave fully.
Whose game modchat will it be? Mine or later?
 
You're tempting spoilers, but you'll have to wait.

I'm feeling good about Mao, Kitsunelaine (outside of the tunneling) and rac. And call me crazy, but Fireblend too.

Stan is starting to look weird for some reason. Like, he's been too calm for normal Stan. Dunno.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Whose game modchat will it be? Mine or later?
I'm not sure when, I kind of want to get the gam reviewed and done and put on schedule first, but depending on how many games will be before mine I might end up sitting in on yours (I know already I won't be able to play it anyways unfortunately but maybe being in modchat might be fine.)

You're tempting spoilers, but you'll have to wait.

I'm feeling good about Mao, Kitsunelaine (outside of the tunneling) and rac. And call me crazy, but Fireblend too.

Stan is starting to look weird for some reason. Like, he's been too calm for normal Stan. Dunno.

I'm feeling good on Mao, Kits, and rac but I am a little suspicious of Fireblend so I support rac's plan to focus on him.

Stan has been different but I kind of like it. It reminds me of him at the end of SU when he was taking things calming and making sure he was making the right decisions. He's already stated that he's starting to learn from his past tunneling on nin and B-Dubs so this attitude make sense. Nin came in as Nin 2.0 but maybe it was really Stan that is the 2.0 :pikathink:
 
I'm not sure when, I kind of want to get the gam reviewed and done and put on schedule first, but depending on how many games will be before mine I might end up sitting in on yours (I know already I won't be able to play it anyways unfortunately but maybe being in modchat might be fine.)
That's a shame, I was hoping you would play. But yeah if they allow you to be in modchat then you should grab that opportunity.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
That's a shame, I was hoping you would play. But yeah if they allow you to be in modchat then you should grab that opportunity.
There is a possibility I may be able to actually play, it just all depends on how my job is going and if I have the energy plus everything else going on currently.

If I can't then we'll see about modchat. c:
 
I'm feeling good on Mao, Kits, and rac but I am a little suspicious of Fireblend so I support rac's plan to focus on him.

The thing with Fireblend is that the reasons as to why he's getting votes seem weak. I'd expect mafia!Fireblend to be cautious enough not to cast that rushed vote on Kopite so close to EoD, so Zeke giving him a hard time for that feels a bit weird. And I actually buy Fireblend's argument that his case went from 0 to 100 extremely fast and players don't seem interested enough to engage with his counter-arguments. So it feels like an orchestrated attempt to take down a dangerous player.

Then you have him putting out some long posts too. I'd prefer to look for meanies between those avoiding to participate too much first, just in case you're barking at the wrong tree and risk losing a good asset to town.

To be fair I'm biased due to recently reading Fireblend being super frustrated after Conspiracy.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
The thing with Fireblend is that the reasons as to why he's getting votes seem weak. I'd expect mafia!Fireblend to be cautious enough not to cast that rushed vote on Kopite so close to EoD, so Zeke giving him a hard time for that feels a bit weird. And I actually buy Fireblend's argument that his case went from 0 to 100 extremely fast and players don't seem interested enough to engage with his counter-arguments. So it feels like an orchestrated attempt to take down a dangerous player.

Then you have him putting out some long posts too. I'd prefer to look for meanies between those avoiding to participate too much first, just in case you're barking at the wrong tree and risk losing a good asset to town.

To be fair I'm biased due to recently reading Fireblend being super frustrated after Conspiracy.

Yeah I can see that, his vote on Kophite really did come off to me as trying to break up the tie because no one else was really, I guess I'm just still unsure about him. Out of the people in the game he's someone I'd probably keep my eye on but I'd focus on other players that are more suspicious to me (like Sparks who he has been trying to keep focused on.) XD

I could see a world where scum is taking advantage of Fireblend being suspicious to throw the heat off of them.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
To be fair I'm biased due to recently reading Fireblend being super frustrated after Conspiracy.
Ah, I see someone has read the fine game of Conspiracy! Yes, Fireblend loved that game so much that he's been actively working to wipe it from his memory ever since it ended lol.
 
Ah, I see someone has read the fine game of Conspiracy! Yes, Fireblend loved that game so much that he's been actively working to wipe it from his memory ever since it ended lol.

I liked it being a relatively normal design under the disguise of misleading mechanics and useless roles, and the review thread loving that.

Fake-real edit: and you acting super offended before being lunched.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I liked it being a relatively normal design under the disguise of misleading mechanics and useless roles, and the review thread loving that.

Fake-real edit: and you acting super offended before being lunched.
Good times lol. Still don't know what they were thinking, clearly I had been framed! :P
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Looks like the game slowed down.
I wonder if rac plans to reveal the info or not
Scum Spoilers:
It would probably be a good idea to do it soon I think. 24 hours have passed, I think coming out with the red check now would give everyone some time to react and discuss a bit while also looking back on FB's posts knowing that he is Scum. The Sparks connection should sink in I think since people are already talking about that, Zeke will probably still be fine though.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Hmmm something about Swamped's read list makes me a bit suspicious of her. She is largely town reading people that are being townread right now (Except for Mao who is being scumread by a few still), she's scrumreading Fireblend and Sparks who have been getting a lot of heat, and she's neutral on most of the people I'm unsure of.

Also I found it weird when looking at the Kophite vote she completely gives Zeke a pass (Who I have been largely liking the posts of) while putting all suspicion on Fireblend (something he keeps getting flack for) without even discussing her own involvement.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Spoilers for Aeleus:

I think Aeleus is trying to get the person who got their results to come out with it, in case it was Scum and they are trying to keep it hidden.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yes I was just about to comment on it. A messenger claim is an interesting one to claim as it is certainly a way of claiming they are town, but they also mentioned possibly being roleblocked which would explain why no one got one and be a easy cover if they are in fact scum.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I can definitely see where rac is coming from by being a bit annoyed with yet another role claim. He might be right about just wanting to ignore them. XD
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
oh damn this miscommunication between aaleus and rac is so unfortunate, they need to come clean fast or this can become a disaster
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
oh damn this miscommunication between aaleus and rac is so unfortunate, they need to come clean fast or this can become a disaster
Yeah, it's unfortunate that Aeleus wasn't able to get the hint from Rac. Like, it wasn't a coincidence that someone came out and immediately called the person they targeted Scum and dropped a vote on them...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
It's going to be interesting to see if Aeleus can convince everyone that these results are real once they show up again lol.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
rac and aaleus must feel so bad rn :(

Also:

If you honestly thought it was a legitimate red check, why not come out and say you got a red check?

I want someone to tell fb to not play dumb so bad, leave my boy rac alone
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm pretty sure Aeleus went to sleep shortly after making that post, so it's probably going to be a few hours here still until they check back in again and see what Rac said.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
HOLY CRAP this is annoying me so much right now. When rac mentioned he got the check I got excited because that means rac is the town watcher and therefore town. I didn't actually think Aeleus was the amnesia cop but I checked your spoilers figuring it was about the check (I'm fine with that XD)

I'm just so upset because rac has just stated Fireblend is scum and no one believes him because of the way Aeleus went about it. UGGGGGGHHHHHH.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
HOLY CRAP this is annoying me so much right now. When rac mentioned he got the check I got excited because that means rac is the town watcher and therefore town. I didn't actually think Aeleus was the amnesia cop but I checked your spoilers figuring it was about the check (I'm fine with that XD)

I'm just so upset because rac has just stated Fireblend is scum and no one believes him because of the way Aeleus went about it. UGGGGGGHHHHHH.
Yeah, it's a very unfortunate sequence of events here.

I would literally pay money to see Aeleus's face when they read Rac's post tomorrow lol.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah, it's a very unfortunate sequence of events here.

I would literally pay money to see Aeleus's face when they read Rac's post tomorrow lol.

I swear if rac gets lunched because of this I'll be so annoyed. XD The problem is if Aeleus comes forward fully town may not believe them or they will get Nk'd :/

It's a bit silly that rac didn't want to humor Aeleus' claim now considering.
 
Good morning :)

So Aeleus claimed messenger, because rac _didn't_ talk about the msg, but he obviously pushed Febe. Was there ever even any talk of potentially lunching Aeleus? This seems super self-conscious. While I don't think scum are in any need to fakeclaim, sometimes the worry gets to you. Mhm, something is up with Aeleus.
Aeleus said:
given my mess with B-Dubs I had assumed I was going to need to claim today anyway
Just no. Even more nobody pushed them about it today.

Aeleus is either misguided townie or neutral. Scum are in an A+ position to not draw any attention to themselves. So why try and frame rac in this flimsy way? [insert rac's watcher claim nobody seems to remember]

Let's try something new. Let's assume Fireblend is town. What happened there? Rac votes and Zeke goes with it immediatly. Swamped is the most obvious going with the flow - what did she say about Febe up to this poin? I might take a look.
Melon and Mao were only into each other, with Stan nibbling at the edge, trying to talk with melon. Others just ignored it.
Oh Mao did respond and said Febe's response was fishy. Mhm.

New all star scum team: Swamped / Sparks / (Stan? Zeke?)

Tbh: I have no idea -.-
 
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