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[Illuminati member 3]

Probably best to keep it simple, like maybe just put a gif in your next post or something? I think we can reasonably assume that would be enough of a hint to us that you are Fando.

Done!

 

[lokiduck]

I'm pretty tired so I'm probably going to get ready for bed now, don't think I'll be around in the thread anymore, but I'll keep an eye on things on my phone for a bit still probably haha.

Okay then night! I'm going to try and find a reasonable reason for liking Swamped and hope for the best.

 

[lokiduck]

Done!

Thanks Fando! it was a good choice too.

 

[lokiduck]

ANd yes I'm going to call you both Fanto and Fando... just to... make it fun >:3

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Nah, it's just Fran. If he asks for more just say you agreed that I needed to explain those reads and liked that she asked about them.

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And yeah that's a good gif lol.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

Welp fuck my life. I made a comment about Swamped because you did Fanto and now Fran ad probably others will find it weird. :/

Hahah that's a non-issue. Don't get nervous about your honest reads.

Just post that "confirmed town" gif and shut Fran up lol.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

ANd yes I'm going to call you both Fanto and Fando... just to... make it fun >:3

Just don't Sorian it up lol

 

[lokiduck]

Thanks for the help there guys, I'm hoping it's enough and knowing Fran (from what I've seen), it may not be enough but here's hoping. XD

 

[lokiduck]

I honestly do not know how much more I can do tonight, because I have a headache ><

 

[Illuminati member 3]

Thanks for the help there guys, I'm hoping it's enough and knowing Fran (from what I've seen), it may not be enough but here's hoping. XD

That was a good reply haha. I think Fran will stop badgering you for now.

But I'll be going to sleep soon too. 2 AM here already and things have slowed down on the thread. No need to keep up for too long either, loki.

 

[lokiduck]

Just looked over Fran (I was before he questioned my basic read) and most of his comments have been about the chests (such as asking you Fanto why you didn't pick one and asking Neon why he never did) and debating whether Geno would lie to us or not (partly connected to me but mainly with the highlight thing)

 

[lokiduck]

That was a good reply haha. I think Fran will stop badgering you for now.

But I'll be going to sleep soon too. 2 AM here already and things have slowed down on the thread. No need to keep up for too long either, loki.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was a good response at first. ^^: Either way I have a feeling i may be one of Fran's targets for a while. XD

Have a good sleep then! I'll probably mention my headache and focus on some light reads for tonight. >>

 

[Illuminati member 2]

Chuggs not wanting to vote is weird.
i’d say it was weirder if we were midgame and later though because at that point scum needs every vote they can get.
so, a neutral role would make more sense at this point.
mostly because if he is town, in order to help us with his ability he needs to vote.
also, if he has no other abilities, all the power he has as a townie is his vote.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Tearable is still my #1 Scum so far btw. If there is a Scum player in here and you are allowed to talk about this place in Scum chat, you can go ahead and relay that to him in there lol.

Also, bookmark this post for when I end up being totally wrong lol.

 

[lokiduck]

I'm awake finally, but I got to do laundry which requires me going back and forth between the facility for it and my apartment so my posting will be random. I'll mention as much in the thread once I start posting there. In the mean time I'll catch up and maybe try and do some reads on the higher posters since I can't really get anything from the low posters.

I do agree with your theory numbah 2 that Chuggs may be a neutral. If his power is real then he's probably a neutral or town, if he lied about his powers then he is probably scum. But for now I'll give him a pass until we see more, I just want to see him vote more.

 

[lokiduck]

Oh bob I'm still catching up and now I have to go get laundry >< This is going to be a long day isn't it?

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

You might miss out on the next event, which starts in about half an hour.

I think that's why the game kind of hit a pause, people said their thoughts on the first half and now we're waiting to see whatever Geno and Gorlak have for us next lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Yeah the plan was to be here at 12 when it starts but laundry D: <

 

[lokiduck]

In any case I signed up. If I get picked I'll make sure I'm here at 12:30 to see if I was picked.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Yeah, I don't really know what to expect, I just want to play some Blackjack lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Go Fanto Go!

Also i'm feeling a lot better about Wee. They seem really active and scumhunting now that aren't just asking questions.

 

[lokiduck]

Welcome to the roleblock club Fanto. XD

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

It is what it is lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Just want to also mention that while we can't fully trust each other in here, I think part of the intention for this thread is a place to give us a chance to share our reads and discuss some matters privately like what Numbah 2 did earlier with me.

During the night phase I will probably analyzing the votes and doing more indepth reads just on the off chance that if I get killed, you guys will have my reads to use as a reference point.

So even if Numbah 2 and 4 wish to keep their identities anonymous, I encourage you both to do the same if you want to.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

was hoping Fantomas would win so we could touch upon items a bit if possible.

also, i'm taking Cap by her word when she says she's infected. with that being said, there's no reason non-townies would be infected.
so as of Day 1, i'm confident Cap is town. what madness occurs after night 1 is another story.
alignments can definitely change

 

[lokiduck]

was hoping Fantomas would win so we could touch upon items a bit if possible.

also, i'm taking Cap by her word when she says she's infected. with that being said, there's no reason non-townies would be infected.
so as of Day 1, i'm confident Cap is town. what madness occurs after night 1 is another story.
alignments can definitely change

Yeah i was hoping as well. I am wondering how items will work in this game however, as it mostly seems like we will be hunting for the stones.

As for your theory, i'm not entirely sure that non-townies can be infected just because the las plagas of last game seemed to just spread to whoever interacted with the infected, but that was because the wincon for L_P (Who was Wesker) was to infect everybody. I'm actually a bit concerned that our infection works the same way...

You are right either way that alignment can change, which is why if there is a way of dealing with the infection we need to find the solution sooner than later.

 

[lokiduck]

*can't

 

[lokiduck]

Also i was going to post my early read list in here first, but I realized that'd be a bitch since I'd then have to retype my list for the actual thread in a different way so as to not quote myself (had to do that last time too), so I'll just post the list in the thread when I'm done. Any interesting things I notice but don't want to mention in thread, I'll say here.

 

[lokiduck]

So far I'm getting a bunch of null reads from my reads and I'm unsure on who to vote for. I'm almost half way through the list. Oliver's posts have mostly been fluff, but he feels like too easy of a train at this point, as would voting most of the inactive players.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Vote for Tearable with me lol. At the least it breaks the spread and puts two votes on someone, which can perhaps apply some pressure. Tearable needs it.

 

[lokiduck]

Vote for Tearable with me lol. At the least it breaks the spread and puts two votes on someone, which can perhaps apply some pressure. Tearable needs it.

I'll consider if if I feel like he'd be a good choice after doing my read on him. I'm definitely townreading you Fanto, but I want to vote who I think is scum. XD

 

[lokiduck]

I'll be honest. I really want to vote Apop for really stupid reasons, but I won't because no one seems interested in voting for item holders which does makes sense. XD

 

[Illuminati member 3]

I think I want to look more into Tearable. I can't actually remember any actual content he brought up so far, and I'm normally wary of his weird takes but I didn't see much so far.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

I'll be honest. I really want to vote Apop for really stupid reasons, but I won't because no one seems interested in voting for item holders which does makes sense. XD

Wait, what are those stupid reasons?

If we go by HvV it's very possible that we got a good number of neutrals out in the open, so especially at the start I'll try to focus on town-hunting rather than scum-hunting. I think it's important to remember that even scum is looking for scum so early into the game.

 

[lokiduck]

My reasoning is what i said to Fanto here:

My thing about Apo is that he said originally that he wasn't going to open a chest when all four monster chests had been found. When he made that comment it was right after Mao's opening which was the 18th chest opened meaning that any additional traps would have probably been found at that point. I asked him at the time why he wasn't and he never responded, only to open 19 when he said he'd open 16.


Ultimately it's NAI and since he won we should leave him alone for now, but I still find it weird.

And that the jerk never answered my question when I asked him about it :<

Mainly it's kind of a gut feeling...??? Him and Fran are standing out as people I'm not getting good vibes from.

And valid point about town hunting there Fando. So far most of my list has been either town or null so that works. XD

 

[lokiduck]

Oh wow this read on Puns will be really easy because it's literally a page.

Man do I love early game.

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler about my read list: If you have less than 20 posts you are getting a null read and "want to see more" comment from me. XD

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Spoiler about my read list: If you have less than 20 posts you are getting a null read and "want to see more" comment from me. XD

Yeah, I'm not going to bother with a full read list until later in the day for this reason alone haha, still a lot of folks who haven't really checked in all that much.

 

[lokiduck]

Like Brazil you mean. XD I'm still doing a full read list, because that's what this reading turned into so *shrug* I may remove all the "null for now need to see more" peeps and just say the rest are null until then, but I do have some comments about them so maybe not.

I also should probably mentioned Swamped just in case Fran asks me about it (which you guys are right that he left me alone).

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Yeah, my anticipation for Brazil's arrival is pretty high at this point lol.

 

[lokiduck]

It would be hilarious if he ends up getting replaced by L_P (if it comes to that). XD

 

[lokiduck]

Okay i posted my reads. We'll see what everyone thinks.

 

[lokiduck]

Me: Apop's actions during event 1 is NAI.

Fran: I think it's really NAI.

Me: Really I'm so surprised.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

this whole 16 and 19 conversation isn’t getting us anywhere.

people are worried about what will happen to Chuggs’ item if he dies, but we have 2 others with items as well. if one of them gets NK’d, that item is gone and it couldn’t potentially create another Apoclyptomon or w/e it was called. the abilities that thing had were OP.
that’s what I’m worried about

 

[lokiduck]

I agree completely that it's a wasted conversation, but Fran is the one who won't let me stop talking about it when that wasn't my only concern =-=, well that and the others.

Yeah I'm worried about that as well.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

yeah, that’s how Fran plays. him asking about the Apo situation when he entered was rhetorical. he knew what was going on. he was saying that it wasn’t a big deal

 

[lokiduck]

Yeah I get it.

Apop's original comment in event 1 was one of the things that has stood to me as weird even if it is NAI, which is why I brought it up. I'm not going to vote for him just based on that.

 

[lokiduck]

I mentioned as much earlier that my reasoning for wanting to was stupid. XD

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i wish there was a 1 post per day minimum for this thread. at least then we’d for sure know if there is a member #1.
5 seems like a solid number for this kind of thread but still

 

[lokiduck]

I'm pretty sure at this point that I'm supposed to be member 1, since I was probably always supposed to be here and 5 does seem like a good number, but who knows.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

I'm trying hard to not drop some possible identity reads on Member #2 right now out of respect for their decision to stay anonymous lol.

 

[lokiduck]

I'm trying hard to not drop some possible identity reads on Member #2 right now out of respect for their decision to stay anonymous lol.

Honestly me too... Mind you I am keep notes on all of you just in case you do end up as scum. ;D

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i just haven’t found the need to reveal myself just yet. if I did say I was so and so, what would that prove? it wouldn’t green check me. we still have no idea which alignments are among us.
it would only associate me with that one player in the game thread.
i will give you something to nibble on though: im a hero that was present in HvV1.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i wasn’t playable, but I spoke in the story

 

[lokiduck]

Oh okay, thanks for the info then. I'm not actively trying to figure who you people are because it's your choice (my notes are more of keeping tabs on what you are saying just in case it becomes important later), but thanks.

However, i would like to hear more from Numbah 4 because they have been pretty quiet.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

However, i would like to hear more from Numbah 4 because they have been pretty quiet.

as would I.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

i just haven’t found the need to reveal myself just yet. if I did say I was so and so, what would that prove? it wouldn’t green check me. we still have no idea which alignments are among us.
it would only associate me with that one player in the game thread.

Not looking for a green check, just to have familiarity with one another in here I suppose. I suppose my perspective is that if we know who each other are, we have more to build our reads on with each other. Like, I have posts in here to judge Fandorin by as well as his posts in the thread, I think that helps me to better inform my read on him, which is currently at a Lean Town.

It would also be helpful if we all knew who each other were because if one of us flips, we can see whether or not the Illuminati part of our Role PM is included for sure. Also, if someone from in here flipped as Neutral or Scum, it might help us to feel a bit safer knowing there is at least one less anti-Town player in here.

I'm not actively trying to figure who you people are

Not gunna lie, I totally am lol.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Not gunna lie, I totally am lol.

And to follow up, I thought Fandorin was maybe Zipped at first, how about that! Lol.

 

[lokiduck]

I'm too embarrassed to say who I thought Fandorin was. XD

 

[lokiduck]

Not gunna lie, I totally am lol.

Yeah well you do you. Maybe it's the boy scoutness that is in because I'm playing cap but I want to respect my fellow illuminati members as what kind of super secret global organization would we have if we don't respect each other. XD

 

[Illuminati member 2]

my initial thought of #4 was Verelios.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

My current best guess is that #4 is Ketkat.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

As for #2, it seems as though you were in the original HvV game, am I correct that you have made references to it already? That narrows the list down a bit.

I have a notepad open with this stuff lol, it's the same thing I did when I played in the GTA Costume game, trying to solve identities is fun too lol.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

And you don't need to answer me if you want to stay anonymous still, I'm just saying, I can't help but try to figure out who the rest of you are on my own lol.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i won’t spoil your fun lol. i don’t mind you trying to solve. like I said I don’t intend on revealing myself just yet though.
#4 being ketkat would explain the inactivity.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

Yeah, my anticipation for Brazil's arrival is pretty high at this point lol.

Brazil is against weekend phases lol, he just doesn’t like it lol

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

As for some actual reads to share in here though I suppose...

If I had to put together some kind of feels list at the moment, I suppose my mind is organized somewhat like this right now (no particular order):

Townish Thoughts:
Loki
Chugg
Sorian
Fran
Wee

Lean Townish:
Cat
Kalor
Fandorin
Zipped
Faddy

Null Zone:
Mao
Vere
Muffin
Apo
Vincent
Malus

Lean Scummish
Tearable
Kits
Oliver

Everyone else I just don't really have any feelings when I look at their name on the roster I guess, either because they haven't posted enough or didn't leave much of an impression on me either way I suppose.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

I’m not sure on #4, I think Vere makes sense but the lack of activity would be weird.

#2 gives me Muffin vibes, but punctuation isn’t right. Unsure right now.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

I'm willing to bet that I am wrong about at least one of Sorian/Fran/Wee being Town.

 

[lokiduck]

That's a good list there Fanto, I agree with pretty much all of it. I'm still trying to figure out my vote. I'll be around for EoD, but I want to get something down.

 

[lokiduck]

I'm willing to bet that I am wrong about at least one of Sorian/Fran/Wee being Town.

Out of them my bets on Fran but that's on a weird gut feeling I have that I can't back up.

Mind you I scumread Oreomunsta in SU day 1 for weird reasons and I was right... sooo

 

[lokiduck]

Still feel bad about calling Oreo a bastard in my lover chat when he got lunched because I was right :/

 

[Illuminati member 3]

Let me share a quick and dirty read list with you guys.

At the moment I’d probably vote Oliver but I’m not too confident about it. I want to question him a bit more because the only thing that stuck was his waffling back at the first day.

There’s a huge “null” pile in there with the rest of the players which I can probably order, but nothing really stuck to me.

Anyway, here’s the list, roughly going from most to least:

Town:
Loki
Fantomas
Chugg

Lean Town:
Stuart
Swamped
Sorian
Vere
Ketkat
Fran
Faddy
Cat
Kitsu

Lean Scum:
Weem
Oliver

 

[Illuminati member 3]

On my weem read, I want your guys help. The thread seems to lean town on them and Fanto even put them as town, but I’m not really feeling his contributions.

My first mafia game ever had them as the last remaining scum, and I got utterly fooled until quite a bit into the game. I feel like they are playing mostly like that on this game as well, with a lot of prodding and questioning but not much substance on actual reads. I’m worried this might be meta clouding my judgement though.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

On my weem read, I want your guys help. The thread seems to lean town on them and Fanto even put them as town, but I’m not really feeling his contributions.

My first mafia game ever had them as the last remaining scum, and I got utterly fooled until quite a bit into the game. I feel like they are playing mostly like that on this game as well, with a lot of prodding and questioning but not much substance on actual reads. I’m worried this might be meta clouding my judgement though.

their contributions*

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

On my weem read, I want your guys help. The thread seems to lean town on them and Fanto even put them as town, but I’m not really feeling his contributions.

My first mafia game ever had them as the last remaining scum, and I got utterly fooled until quite a bit into the game. I feel like they are playing mostly like that on this game as well, with a lot of prodding and questioning but not much substance on actual reads. I’m worried this might be meta clouding my judgement though.

Well, for Wee I want to give them a bit more time at least. They're not going to be here for EoD because they said they'd be busy, and they were being active and sharing enough thoughts on D1 that I expect we can continue to get more on them in the coming days to build a better read.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Like for example, if we were to vote Oliver here and he flipped Scum, I would probably doubt that Wee would have decided to spend their time scum-reading their own teammate and then drop a vote on them before leaving for D1. It would have been a lot safer to fake a scum read and drop a vote on them instead.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

I agree they are being active and moving discussion along, so I’m not too worried about voting there now.

And that’s a good point on their Oliver vote. Scum partners wouldn’t do that, especially on D1 when votes can end up anywhere.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Just FYI: This is what happens when NO ONE VOTES ALL DAY!

I make my case as to why my vote is where it is, suddenly people decide to vote there, then out of the woodwork come the people with no vote going "Whoa there, why are you voting?"

Like, COME ON!!!

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i admittedly agree with Kalor and Malus I think it was? Tearable’s post seem very typical of a day 1 poster.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Yeah but something has to get going here. This is at the least a conversation starter.

I think he's Scum, you don't. There we go, now find someone else to also put up for the vote. 28 players in this game, the majority is 15 on D1, there is a 0% risk of a turbo. We see who votes where, we interact with each other, we agree and disagree, maybe switch our votes, and eventually we see a flip and get a bunch of vote data to look back on.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Also I'm 90% sure that #2 is Vere.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

If not, then possibly Apo?

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

My identity reads are bad lol.

 

[lokiduck]

yo everyone I'm going to catch up and figure out who I'm voting on. Like Fando I'm considering voting for Oliver but something does really seem off about it making me unsure.

Additionally Fando, I'm also townreading Wee right now as I've been feeling better about them. I also voted out town wee in my first game so I want to be really sure before I would consider putting a vote on them ^^;

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

Just vote wherever your heart desires at this point I'd say, or wherever you feel your strongest case can be made.

Voting Oliver wouldn't be bad right now, it would make it a 4-4 tie, ties at this point could be interesting especially if one of them is Scum.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

yo everyone I'm going to catch up and figure out who I'm voting on. Like Fando I'm considering voting for Oliver but something does really seem off about it making me unsure.

Additionally Fando, I'm also townreading Wee right now as I've been feeling better about them. I also voted out town wee in my first game so I want to be really sure before I would consider putting a vote on them ^^;

I really wanted to see more from Oliver this phase. He's known for sucking hard at D1s, so I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I found Mao's vote and this sudden burst of activity really suspect. I understand it could be a townie under heat during D1, but still it's the biggest scum tell in the game so far.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

i agree that a tie vote will be interesting to watch. 30 minutes of sudden death might really show some players’ true nature.

 

[Illuminati Member 5]

I could see myself voting Malus, that vote on Stu from him felt odd.

 

[lokiduck]

Okay everyone I'll consider it if I get caught up in time.

 

[lokiduck]

I also could vote for Malus, he hasn't posted much, and his posts have been weird for the most part aside from like one.

 

[lokiduck]

Also Fando good job pointing out Kalor and Malus' activity. I was really unsatisfied with both of their lack of activity and mostly weak posts.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

I could see myself voting Malus, that vote on Stu from him felt odd.

I actually liked on unsual his push was, but he had an earlier post hedging Stu almost in preparation to the vote.

 

[Illuminati member 3]

Also Fando good job pointing out Kalor and Malus' activity. I was really unsatisfied with both of their lack of activity and mostly weak posts.

It kinda went unnoticed in the end, but both acted pretty weird then.

 

[lokiduck]

lol Brazil questioned your gif post Fando. XD

 

[Illuminati member 3]

lol Brazil questioned your gif post Fando. XD

I didn't realize that *groan* post of his was before game started lol

He went "Wtf is this?" to me IRL lol

 

[lokiduck]

Also do we know if Oliver will be around for EoD. I don't want to make a tie if he isn't.

 

[lokiduck]

I didn't realize that *groan* post of his was before game started lol

He went "Wtf is this?" to me IRL lol

Oh shit he's onto you XD

 

[lokiduck]

I'm also really glad I got up 2 hours before day end, because it's giving me plenty of time to catch up >> Got two pages still.

 

[Illuminati member 2]

Also do we know if Oliver will be around for EoD. I don't want to make a tie if he isn't.

that’s a good point. he said he won’t and he’s not placing a vote until day 2. so if he shows up and places a vote somewhere, that would seem really weird.