Spectator Thread Inside Muffin

[Aeleus]

I had figured out stuff about the chat and who had what item years ago but I only realized what was up with ketkat when I was making the post

 

[lokiduck]

But at least Sneeks got cured of Las Plagas LOL.

 

[Maolfunction]

*pokes head in*

This game sure has gone places.

 

[lokiduck]

I had figured out stuff about the chat and who had what item years ago but I only realized what was up with ketkat when I was making the post

Either way you did a good job figuring out the Super Secret Illuminati Zombie Cult :p

 

[Fanto]

For the record, we were not actually a Zombie Cult, we just wanted to turn into one, so that's what we called ourselves lol. :P

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I thought town might be boned, but...Abs makes it pretty simple. It really does come down to Cat, Brazil, and Muffin. And Cat honestly shouldn't be questioned at this point either. Town should have this.

Scum have to turn on Abs to pull it home. Lunching him is their pathway.

 

[Fandorin]

Bro, victory is at hand my man! Lunch Muffin and we are gold! Dat epic clutch win.

 

[lokiduck]

If only ABs knew the X-Blade was his item LOL

 

[Fandorin]

Muffin and Brazil look the sketchiest out of the claims I think.

But Brazil role is literally his townie one. Zero scumminess about it.

 

[lokiduck]

For the record, we were not actually a Zombie Cult, we just wanted to turn into one, so that's what we called ourselves lol. :P

Shhhhh don't tell them that. They can find out the truth when they read our chat later.

 

[lokiduck]

I know I'm town, I believe Sawneeks is now confirmed town. I believe Natiko is neutral.


Brazil, Muffin, absolutbro


One of you is presumably town or neutral. The other two are presumably scum.


Lalala, I have no choice but to do a reread.

Come on Cat I believe in you!!!

 

[Fanto]

So, this is currently LyLo, correct?

6 players left.

3 Town, 2 Scum, 1 Neutral.

Lunch Scum today.

3 Town, 1 Scum, 1 Neutral.

Neutral and Scum both kill Town.

Neutral exits game with win.

1 Town, 1 Scum. Scum wins.

They can still lose even if they go for Brazil or Muffin today unfortunately. It will come down to Night Kills for Town, similar to how LiS ended actually with the Neutral/Scum relationship.

 

[weemadarthur]

The thread title has COME to mean that muffin is the inside man that nobody suspected

 

[Maolfunction]

Bro, victory is at hand my man! Lunch Muffin and we are gold! Dat epic clutch win.

Honestly can't believe our last second recruit target has worked out this well, lol.

 

[Fanto]

But Brazil role is literally his townie one. Zero scumminess about it.

Still, it's a sketchy NAI role. AB maybe comes close as well, but I think Cat should not be considered here, and they already know Saw is Town and that Natiko is a Neutral.

 

[Aeleus]

Really enjoyed the game, Fando janitor is bad luck so I'm fine with Brazil (I guess -_-) but I'm a bit salty on the muffin one, oh well

 

[Geno]

So, this is currently LyLo, correct?

6 players left.

3 Town, 2 Scum, 1 Neutral.

Lunch Scum today.

3 Town, 1 Scum, 1 Neutral.

Neutral and Scum both kill Town.

Neutral exits game with win.

1 Town, 1 Scum. Scum wins.

They can still lose even if they go for Brazil or Muffin today unfortunately. It will come down to Night Kills for Town, similar to how LiS ended actually with the Neutral/Scum relationship.

There's only 3 ways they can win.
1. Muffin is lynched, Galeem kills Brazil
2. They lynch Muffin, Natiko kills Brazil and exits
3. They lynch Brazil, Natiko kills Muffin and exits.
Any other scenario is game over.

 

[Stuart444]

I did warn them about leaving things til MyLo/LyLo :P

Honestly though. congrats to whoever wins this haha.

 

[Sorian]

It's not lylo. They could mislynch AB, Natiko could shoot either Muffin or Brazil and/or Muffin could shoot Brazil and town still has plurality to keep playing.

 

[Fanto]

It's not lylo. They could mislynch AB, Natiko could shoot either Muffin or Brazil and/or Muffin could shoot Brazil and town still has plurality to keep playing.

True, and if the killers hit the same target that also keeps their numbers up.

 

[weemadarthur]

It's not lylo. They could mislynch AB, Natiko could shoot either Muffin or Brazil and/or Muffin could shoot Brazil and town still has plurality to keep playing.

Leave it to u to rely on a neutral to save the day

 

[lokiduck]

LOL at Muffin trying to throw suspicion on Cat.

 

[Sorian]

Leave it to u to rely on a neutral to save the day

Natiko hated me in the moment but he'll love telling this story later.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I'll be happy as long as Muffin doesn't win.

LOL at Muffin trying to throw suspicion on Cat.

Yeah. That "what a wild theory" post would have sealed the deal for me that Muffin was scum. Jiminy. lol.

 

[Geno]

Natiko really wanted to throw the game when he got the sword, glad he didn't and kept playing. He deserves that win (You also do Stu)

 

[Aeleus]

Wait I'm catching up and was Wee town?

 

[Fanto]

Wait I'm catching up and was Wee town?

Yes, Fandorin killed her and wrote a fake Scum Role PM for her if I remember right.

 

[Sorian]

Wait I'm catching up and was Wee town?

Yes, with a few changes, the role you actually read was for Fandorin, Wee did not lie, she was a watcher.

 

[lokiduck]

I'll be happy as long as Muffin doesn't win.


Yeah. That "what a wild theory" post would have sealed the deal for me that Muffin was scum. Jiminy. lol.

It's funny how retrospect works.

Muffin instantly assumed that Stan was killed by Natiko and no one batted an eye at it, that and him not wanting to die during the boss fight.

 

[Fanto]

I have no fucking clue who else it would be unless you're lying and Brazil is scum for some reason.

Lol

 

[Stuart444]

him not wanting to die during the boss fight.

Never forget Muffin convincing people to rez him before the doctor.

Well played Muffin.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

It's funny how retrospect works.

Muffin instantly assumed that Stan was killed by Natiko and no one batted an eye at it, that and him not wanting to die during the boss fight.

This is probably my favorite Mafia game I've played so far, but every time I thought Muffin was scum, I talked myself out of it because I really dislike the mechanic of scum copying a mod confirmed town. Oh well...it was still a good time. The EoD shenanigans are always fun.

 

[weemadarthur]

Wait I'm catching up and was Wee town?

AAUUUGGGHHHH

 

[Neon]

Hello everyone. Just went back to catch up on the goings of this game. And man. This sure has become quite complicated.

Also, I always had my suspicions about Fran. Glad to see that he was scum all along.

 

[TearablePuns]

This is going to be a great day phase

 

[Maolfunction]

Muffin is clearly flailing for anything atm, why is nobody noticing, lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Lol just got an achievement for making 1000 messages, most of that is game chats and my three game planning threads, but still I'm catching up Fanto!

 

[lokiduck]

This is going to be a great day phase

Yes it is, I'm having a hard time focusing on work.

Muffin is clearly flailing for anything atm, why is nobody noticing, lol.

Yes that is what makes it so infuriating. Brazil is trying his hardest though. You guys picked a good recruit. XD

 

[Aeleus]

Well played to Fandorin with a hand crafted role PM, I'm amazed that role exists and disguested I didn't role scum.

So at page 6, still no idea why my thunderdome hit Brazil

 

[weemadarthur]

If muffin gets lynched i think brazil will win.
Nobobdy seems to want to believe both are bad guys.

 

[lokiduck]

Sneeks please don't be suspicious of Cat. Don't fall for it!

 

[Maolfunction]

Yes that is what makes it so infuriating. Brazil is trying his hardest though. You guys picked a good recruit. XD

Funnily, the only real reason we picked him was because of his green check, given to him by Muffin.

 

[lokiduck]

Honestly thought I'd get an achievement for liking too much, but getting one for posting a bunch makes complete sense...

 

[lokiduck]

Funnily, the only real reason we picked him was because of his green check, given to him by Muffin.

Yep, which is why I'm hoping it'll end up being his very own downfall.

 

[Maolfunction]

Well played to Fandorin with a hand crafted role PM, I'm amazed that role exists and disguested I didn't role scum.

So at page 6, still no idea why my thunderdome hit Brazil

Me, my role gave me a command that forced players to use their abilities on a specific player.

I don't know why I was switched out tho.

 

[Sorian]

Well played to Fandorin with a hand crafted role PM, I'm amazed that role exists and disguested I didn't role scum.

So at page 6, still no idea why my thunderdome hit Brazil

It was the simplest explanation. Maol forced you to target Brazil. I don't know how that removed Maol as well but here we are.

 

[Neon]

Don't really know if town will actually make it out alive. Even if they guess right, they have up to two boss battles ahead of them. And seeing how he last one almost ended up in a bunch of deaths, I don't think they'll come out unscathed.

 

[weemadarthur]

Well played to Fandorin with a hand crafted role PM, I'm amazed that role exists and disguested I didn't role scum.

So at page 6, still no idea why my thunderdome hit Brazil

I....don’t thinkk we’ve had this explained.
That is, not why if they were switched i couldn’t see it. Unless someone was also ninja at the time. I’m very confused lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

Ok, @Geno, i’m fine with the role name stuff, but maol should NOT have been removed from a thunderdome with no limit.

 

[Sorian]

Don't really know if town will actually make it out alive. Considering they have up to two boss battles ahead of them. And seeing how he last one almost ended up in a bunch of deaths, I don't think they'll come out unscathed.

Just the one, I don't think the boss battles are very likely to cause full party wipe, just a death or two. They'll be fine.

 

[Aeleus]

That was not the answer I was hoping for...

 

[Geno]

Well played to Fandorin with a hand crafted role PM, I'm amazed that role exists and disguested I didn't role scum.

So at page 6, still no idea why my thunderdome hit Brazil

Lol rolling scum is fun in bastard games yeah.

 

[Maolfunction]

Ok, @Geno, i’m fine with the role name stuff, but maol should NOT have been removed from a thunderdome with no limit.

Yeah, honestly, I would have preferred to be in the thunderdome as being out of it put a giant, massive target on my back that the entire game took advantage of.

 

[Fanto]

Lol rolling scum is fun in bastard games yeah.

Yes it is.

 

[Geno]

Ok, @Geno, i’m fine with the role name stuff, but maol should NOT have been removed from a thunderdome with no limit.

There was a debate in modchat about this and we decided that the redirect would swap out one of the chosen targets at random.

 

[Neon]

What I'd given to have Natiko's role in this game. Vig roles are always the most fun for me.

 

[weemadarthur]

There was a debate in modchat about this and we decided that the redirect would swap out one of the chosen targets at random.

That turns it into a switcher role. I consider that a mistake. I mean, if it was LISTED as a switcher role, whatever.

 

[Geno]

That turns it into a switcher role. I consider that a mistake. I mean, if it was LISTED as a switcher role, whatever.

The reasoning was that Mao can't influence the amount of targets Aeleus targeted, the amount would always be x.

 

[TearablePuns]

This song fits the mood of this day phase

 

[weemadarthur]

Has nat got 2 kills to his name already?

 

[Geno]

The way Galeem is set up now there's no way they come out of it with no deaths.

 

[Maolfunction]

The way Galeem is set up now there's no way they come out of it with no deaths.

Everyone just fucking dies, that's how this game should end.

 

[lokiduck]

Everyone just fucking dies, that's how this game should end.

Well in that case FoL would win which means Muffin wins anyways.

 

[Geno]

Should've made it so if bosses won nobody won, everyone wasted 3,5 weeks of their lives for nothing

 

[lokiduck]

Should've made it so if bosses won nobody won, everyone wasted 3,5 weeks of their lives for nothing

In that case the Game Runner wins with the boss :o

 

[Sorian]

There was a debate in modchat about this and we decided that the redirect would swap out one of the chosen targets at random.

So it was random then? That I agree with. The intended point was to stop the player from targeting one way and move them to someone else. It being random and just happening to end on Maol looks rough but I agree with the decision.

 

[Neon]

Should've made it so if bosses won nobody won, everyone wasted 3,5 weeks of their lives for nothing

Best ending IMO

 

[Maolfunction]

Well in that case FoL would win which means Muffin wins anyways.

Yeah, technically, but do they really?

 

[Geno]

So it was random then? That I agree with. The intended point was to stop the player from targeting one way and move them to someone else. It being random and just happening to end on Maol looks rough but I agree with the decision.

Maol got lucky with that one yeah, although the chances weren't really that small anyway.

 

[Maolfunction]

Maol got lucky with that one yeah, although the chances weren't really that small anyway.

"lucky"

 

[Aeleus]

Kill everyone but Natiko wins with his 3 kills, that seems like the true ending

 

[lokiduck]

Yeah, technically, but do they really?

Yeah they do, it's like if Town wins because Galeem takes out Brazil after town takes out Muffin. Or Brazil wins because town takes out Muffin and Galeem takes out the last remaining souls you guys need.

 

[lokiduck]

Kill everyone but Natiko wins with his 3 kills, that seems like the true ending

Honestly I'd be fine with that. Stuiko deserves this win.

 

[Geno]

"lucky"

I have never manipulated the rng in my games, only once back in gamefaqs because I was bored af.

 

[Sorian]

I have never manipulated the rng in my games, only once back in gamefaqs because I was bored af.

He put it in quotes because it ended up hurting him more than helping him.

----

Let's just all agree that Stu wins and go home.

 

[Geno]

He put it in quotes because it ended up hurting him more than helping him.

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Let's just all agree that Stu wins and go home.

Ah ok totally misread that post then

 

[Maolfunction]

I have never manipulated the rng in my games, only once back in gamefaqs because I was bored af.

Yeah, no, no hard feelings, but considering how it went for me the next day phase, being out of the dome and looking like I had obviously switched myself with Brazil did me no favors, lol.

 

[Sorian]

Oh man, I feel bad now. Muffin is having a sad day in scum chat.

 

[lokiduck]

Oh man, I feel bad now. Muffin is having a sad day in scum chat.

My only comfort is that he has to read... the main thread, scum chat, and the illuminati chat.

I actually doubted we have scum because that seemed like a lot of chats but I guess I was wrong right Fando the Betrayer? :p

 

[Geno]

Feels bad when he comes in and sees you all wanted him to die. Post something to cheer him on so he can have something positive to see

 

[lokiduck]

Feels bad when he comes in and sees you all wanted him to die. Post something to cheer him on so he can have something positive to see

I think Muffins are a delicious lunch choice especially chocolate ones :P

 

[Maolfunction]

Feels bad when he comes in and sees you all wanted him to die. Post something to cheer him on so he can have something positive to see

I mean, he played very well considering his team was wiped out so early on and now he's practically at endgame. Don't think he could have done any better. If he gets lunched today it's only because PoE is a pain in the ass.

 

[Sorian]

 

[Aeleus]

Feels bad when he comes in and sees you all wanted him to die. Post something to cheer him on so he can have something positive to see

On my final post I almost made a note that I was impressed that FoL was still in the game and that I was rooting for them

I am very happy I didn't make that post

 

[Fanto]

I'm sure everyone agrees that Muffin has been playing great with basically no team but himself for many days, and was only recently caught by some players doing some outside of the box thinking as they approached end game, otherwise he would still be looking pretty safe here.

That being said, I was Town and he was Scum, of course I want him to die, that's just how it works lol. :P

 

[lokiduck]

Ok so then unlikely to be Cat?


That leaves AB, Muffin, and Brazil.


In any scenario here Muffin has to be lying....

 

[lokiduck]

Brazil/muffin scum and scum!Brazil just accepted the clear for his advtange but now realized muffin has to die so he can win?

 

[Sorian]

AB has been lying the whole time. His role involves cake clearly.

 

[lokiduck]

Sneeks in Illum chat:

Are you Kyaning me, muffin. Are you pretending to be a friend as you sharpen your knife?

Like unless Brazil got through your power then it's only AB and Cat but. Idk Cat seems to town.

I really don't think Nat is lying here. Which means you have to be lying. It's the only other logical conclusion left.

Holy fuck I am so proud of her now ;-;

 

[lokiduck]

LOL congrats Stu you are getting a cake!

 

[lokiduck]

Please Sneeks go in for the kill with that Double Vote TT_TT

 

[lokiduck]

Is the robot/town thing confirmed? I've been under the impression that was a Sorian theory that mixed with the Genochip.

Yes Cat, follow this lead.

 

[Fanto]

Is the robot/town thing confirmed? I've been under the impression that was a Sorian theory that mixed with the Genochip.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Honestly I was legit considering Muffin since Stu brought him up, but I couldn’t manage to wrap my head around him being straight confirmed as Megaman

 

[lokiduck]

Honestly I was legit considering Muffin since Stu brought him up, but I couldn’t manage to wrap my head around him being straight confirmed as Megaman

Sameeeeeeeee I believed his lies in Illum chat.

 

[Fandorin]

Muffin is playing great, definitely the MVP scum. It’s pretty awesome how far he got alone like that, and that’s after his fame as Cell last HvV. I mean, look at the name of the thread lol

If Brazil wasn’t there struggling for my faction I would totally be rooting for him. He deserves that win.

 

[lokiduck]

Muffin is playing great, definitely the MVP scum. It’s pretty awesome how far he got alone like that, and that’s after his fame as Cell last HvV. I mean, look at the name of the thread lol

If Brazil wasn’t there struggling for my faction I would totally be rooting for him. He deserves that win.

Honestly I think Muffin having Spec chat named after him is a nice Consolation if he ends up losing :p

But yes he is def MVP scum.

 

[lokiduck]

Update from Sneeks in Illum chat:

If I'm getting pocketed in a secret chat AGAIN I'm disavowing all secret chats forever

Don't worry Sneeks :o we were all town except for Fando the Betrayer and the Infiltrator.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh, so if Wee isn’t scum who wrote those controlled posts for me?

 

[lokiduck]

I don't like Natiko's plan of killing Muffin at night :o Lunch him!

I'm scared to see spec

Poor Sneeks :< I believe in you!!!