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Discussion in 'Conspiracy Mafia 2 - Scum Chat' started by Franconp, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Franconp

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    Welcome to the Scum chat!

    The scum team is:

    Sawneeks

    Sorian

    Pirate Bae

    flatearthpandas

    EzekelRAGE

    The same rules as in the game thread applies here.

    Safe claims that you can use:

    commuter
    switcher
    silencer
    Vanilla
    Move stopper
     
  2. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Oof, that vanilla fake claim, what a trap.

    Also posting in what should be an epic mafia team chat.
     
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    This is beautiful
     
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    Also I didn't play in Conspiracy 1...

    Is it safe to assume another scum team or a cult? Flavor keeps mentioning aliens and as far as I'm aware we aren't aliens, we're just a bunch of weird flat earthers who want murder.
     
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    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    The whole gimmick of conspiracy 1 was that a lot of people had roles and flavor that indicated multiple factions (aliens, cultists, whatever other weird shit Fran came up with) and then the big twist was that I was the only real cop whereas the other two or three cops were looking for factions that weren’t actually there.

    I’ll assume the same gimmick isn’t being used here but......?
     
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    This is like the fourth or fifth time in a row that I’ve rolled scum I’m so mad
     
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    Hi again Zeke

    it’s always you and me
     
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    dragon mom Plays the Game of Chairs

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    Stuck in this never ending hell
     
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    Poor Fanto
     
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    Sawneeks Queen Doppelpopolis

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    Ah, okay. We're a pretty good sized group considering the game size so that would make sense.
     
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    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    just realized the Actress role has great counterclaim potential in it. if someone we target claims the next phase we can just get a free mislunch off of them almost 100% guaranteed. feps would need to be in the hot seat already tho but it's an idea.

    or we could go funsies and target one of us. make them think another role is dead when it actually isn't and just completely ruin all balance talks :>
     
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    @Franconp
    Just to be sure, I'll flip with that player's role but what alignment will I show?
     
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    The same as your target.
     
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    dragon mom Plays the Game of Chairs

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    Fran can I use a silent kill every night or just once during the game?
     
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    Every night you can make a silent or a strong kill. Only once during the game you can use both modifiers on a single target.
     
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    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    I guess I’ll verify too, I have 4-shots overall right? 2 redirects and 2....uh, I’m sure there’s a term for the other thing.
     
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    Yes, 2 and 2.
     
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    Seems like it would be best for me to be targeting town always then. I get punk'd and town can walk into lylo without realizing it. I'll try to keep my eye out for breadcrumbs but I'm not that great at it
     
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    Seeing as we wont know what you hit unless you die I'd say it's a safe bet to target those who are unlikely to be killed. that if you do end up flipping with something important we know who to aim for.
     
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    ello govna
     
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    Wouldn't we want to take advantage of the confusion? Ie, using it to push a middling mislynch?
     
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    think it's gonna depend on FEP's standing as the days go on. if he gets town read really hard i'd rather not sacrifice him.
     
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    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Well sure, there is no reason to ever sacrifice him but I'm saying we probably don't want to use his death (if it happened) to PR hunt because we would have effectively removed that person's claim which means they would be screwed late game by town.
     
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    In other words, we wouldn't want to NK that person.
     
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    If I'm taking heat i think it's be best to targeting someone with breadcrumbs so i can counterclaim them or even get the jump on them before going out. If I'm doing well, i guess just whoever.

    Ideally you'd want whoever i target to be left alive so town at large doesn't realize there was any fuckery for as long as possible.

    Don't think it's something we need to majorly strategize now
     
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    I laughed
     
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    wait no, ignore me. that's a way better idea.
     
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    Been awhile since I’ve been in a day one back and forth.

    What fun this is
    :truffleshuffle:

    What noise this is
    :truffleshuffle:

    What busywork this is
    :truffleshuffle:

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    looks like I'm going to the bathroom tonight?
     
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    it's sparks so there's a strong chance he changes his mind.
     
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    speaking of i think his role is a modified Bus Driver? Takes someone and locks them in the bathroom for a Night Phase and Day Phase so they can't do anything/nothing can be done to them. The soundproof bit is weird, though. If I had to guess it means whoever he places in there can't talk in Night chats and possibly the game thread the next day? Or maybe just all chats for a whole phase.

    then again this is also Sparks and it's possible his role is being misinterpreted. i do think he is telling the truth though it's just the details will be fuzzy.
     
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    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    No outside chats sound likely. Which....kind of whatever since the person can't act either. Shame that they can't give opinions but we would have already lost their power anyway.
     
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    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Though that said, strong kill from within the bathroom still sounds like a reasonable legal action.
     
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    No, they aren't. Players in the bathroom are not blocked or jailed. They are unable to perform any action, no matter the modifier.

    Also they are untargeteables during the night phase so a strong shot will fail if it targets a player in the bathroom.
     
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    The pressuring of ael’s numbers thing is odd to me. It’s role madness. Seems stu and nin are pressuring them for nothing tbh.

    im gonna ignore it since I have already been too linked to ael it seems.

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    So sparks has a power to force ppl into rooms or something

    :truffleshuffle:
     
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    Sparks isn't fancy when he claims so I'm sure it's as simple as he can put one person into the bathroom which bumps out the second person who tried to enter that day phase.
     
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    What’s with the energy in this game loloolol

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    Saw few with the sentiment of voting mao let’s see if we can get this train going

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    I don’t like being labeled as tunneling on mao. The tunnel was being done to me. I was just trying to block it’s advancement.

    I was the tunnelee, mao the tunneler.

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    So..... is my pm the only mention of auctions?

    were they not in the original game?
     
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    you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the tunneler
     
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    fuuuck, didn't really think zeke would happen. i'm not sure i can really bail off the cow cleanly unless fanto surges
     
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    yeah, i'll be honest i'm not sure what to do either. to say im rusty is a huge understatement
     
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    @flatearthpandas do not move off of me. You can’t do it w/o looking scummy. You questioning the votes on me was already a slight bad look

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    The lesson here is..... don’t buss day 1. No reason to.

    :joffrey::joffrey::joffrey::joffrey::joffrey::joffrey:

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
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    Gah, bullshit.

    Sorry guys, I feel awful about that. Dunno what happened. Good luck, ya'll got this
     
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    balls, sorry saw
     
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    Best I could do was just not be there, I’m sorry Saw :(
     
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    If we win, I promise it will be because town ate themselves not realizing that no one bussed.

    Mark it down.
     
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    Wasn’t sure if I should’ve fake claimed or not. So went with real one.
     
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    Honestly, was just looking for some vote to put down that probably wouldn't be questioned or followed and you stuck out
     
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    Hopefully for the best. Our fake claims seem pretty easy to prove as lies
     
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    Is everyone in the auction?
     
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    I think it may be random with who gets in. I skimmed the pm and didn’t see any disqualifier.

    for those who got in, what will your bids be?
     
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    1 thing about me claiming my real role is the auction confirms it, since no one else knew about it.

    with saw claiming a fake role and me a real role, could help me out.

    I could say I am a neutral if need be(if I get red checked). With a win con of winning a certain number of auctions.
    ——————
    1 flaw is someone could say the power favors mafia so they can have someone in every auction.
     
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    I have no idea what any of you are talking about so I assume I’m not in the auction?
     
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    No you are not. Got a pm about auction at day end. Bid on items, items help you while in the bunker. 3 items.
     
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    As mafia our goal should be to block town from getting as many previous Zeus as possible.
     
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    Day autocorrect lololoool

    prizes as possible *
     
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    act: Blargonaut

    fran, can we bid in this chat?
     
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    No, only by PM.
     
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    zeke, thinking 3 1 6
     
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    Ok, hmm trying to think if I want to go 10 on one item or not.

    if not will go 442
     
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    Wouldn’t it be wise for you too to just put 10 into two different ones? (If I understand the rules right?)
     
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    Also, I assume we use just a silent kill tonight? Unless we wanted to kill Faddy (I don’t see the point), we shouldn’t need to worry about protection.

    Anyone have good ideas on the kill and/or how I should use my power. I feel like early on, I should just randomize someone and hope for confusion?
     
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    O yea, if you have matching numbers with someone else, you both miss the prize and it goes to the next bid.

    although I guess we could both still put 10 and different items.

    due to the tile above it’s also possible for ppl to get multiple items from bidding.
     
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    Due to the rule*
     
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    EzekelRAGE *truffleshuffle*

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    Silent kill mao

    confuse kalor?

    Just randomly picked the confuse person. Idk if someone stuck out to you?

    think fep should target someone else other than blarg. Possibly someone that will make it to the late game?

    :truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle::truffleshuffle:
     
  85. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Blarg is 100% cursed to make it to late game again. I think it's good enough personally. Mao is the only one who jumped out at me as maybe something interesting. I think he was the one that probed others for who they would kill. Otherwise, not really, I'm fine with whoever.

    Speaking of, I'd really love pirate bae to talk so we know she isn't locked in a bathroom.
     
  86. dragon mom

    dragon mom Plays the Game of Chairs

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    Hi I’m fine, sorry I took a long nap

    we should probably silent kill monkey since she’s pretty much confirmed town at this point
     
  87. flatearthpandas

    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    I have to use the command every night if I understand correctly. I chose blarg because with him copying people yesterday, people might not believe him is I happen to flip tomorrow and he tries to claim the same role.

    As for nk, maybe monkey would be fine. wouldn't be so bad for her to go out with relatively nice reads on me and Sorian. merc monkey, pressure faddy into using his command tomorrow and Sorian can pretty much slip right into town leader if he's up for it.
     
  88. flatearthpandas

    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    Not sure what the best strategy is on the auction. If we both went 10 on different items, maybe we'd have a pretty good chance of getting at least one.
     
  89. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    I feel like Monkey and Fanto being alive will be the primary driver keeping me alive if things move on the same trajectory. I'm hoping if I play horrible reads all game Monkey will get shades of our hydra game and see too much town in me and Fanto is going to start having minor flashbacks to Conspiracy 1 but I'm not married to either of them staying alive.
     
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    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    Maybe I'm putting too much faith in you or not enough in town but I feel like you can stay alive without monkey's help. i think Faddy and fanto are okay left alive since faddy is either a liar or will be useless for one phase and fanto could probably be lynched at the rate he's going. i don't see monkey going out without a nk
     
  91. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    I don't fly as far as I used to without an airtight claim and I can make that switcher fake claim work but it'll be with a lot of luck. That said, yes I agree that Monkey goes out of this game via NK like 99% of the time.
     
  92. EzekelRAGE

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    Weems was off by like 50+ it seems

    :pikathink:

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    EzekelRAGE *truffleshuffle*

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  94. flatearthpandas

    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    do what you gotta do. I'll let you make the call what you want to do on auction but gotta be quick, i need to go to bed soon
     
  95. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Don’t have an answer for the auction thing since that’s between you two. I’d still think single players would be scared of going 10 in something due to the double rule but that’s up to you two.

    I’m going to DRUNK: Maolfunction and I’m fine with silent kill on Monkey.
     
  96. EzekelRAGE

    EzekelRAGE *truffleshuffle*

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    Auction ok let’s do 10s. I’ll do 10 on the book and you do 10 on whichever you want.
     
  97. flatearthpandas

    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    flatearthpandas Round Moon Bears

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    Wonder if the kitchen has anything to do with the auction tonight
     
  99. Sorian

    Sorian Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop

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    Well remember that what Zeke did doesn’t matter, he plays in all auctions no matter what.
     
  100. dragon mom

    dragon mom Plays the Game of Chairs

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    Betcha anything that the rooms we go to make you eligible for whatever auction is happening. So today is dining hall, tomorrow is something else.