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  1. Franconp

    Franconp Frank

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    Welcome to the Neighbour chat.

    The same rules as in the game thread applies here so no editing, no PMs and all that.

    This chat will only be open during the Night Phase and will be closed when actions are locked (2 hours before day starts).
     
  2. heymonkey

    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Oh, hello, neighbor! Let's talk about all the egg on my face because I got played but also it was worth it because LOL.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    also NIGHT CHATS ARE MY FAVORITE so thanks!
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    oh no what if I have no friends

    it's what i deserve for defending Sorian
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    well, you’re not Fanto. Fanto would already be here. I wonder if this is a day command since I got invited immediately. Or if it was last night for tonight.
     
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    Something important: Players on future nights will be able to read all that is discussed in this chat
     
  7. Verelios

    Verelios Were-elios

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    Monkey, oh monkey, how you wound me.
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, see if they could become something more. See if they could work together when we needed them to to fight the battles we never could.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I’m the worst after today but I guess it makes me average because I was the best day one.

    Hi, Vere. I’m sorry you’re stuck with the worst.
     
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    I think I can trust you. Can I trust you Monkey?
     
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    I'm the damn fool gunning for our copper.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Well, I was too. But it really looked like he was an issue. We got learnt.

    I am gonna go through alllllll the votes tonight so I’m going to flood you but probably Kalor is okay. Tell me about Bae tho. Bae, Bae, Bae.

    I guess this just means Faddy is town. He WAS pissing me off more today.
     
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    Kalor seems okay.

    Bae seems problematic. It seems that Sorian would've voted Terra (he said as much) if it came down to them.

    Chuggs is also cause for concern, even if I didn't want it to be so.
     
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    So, chief advisor Dr. Mon-key, I have something to tell you. Don't freak out though.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I agree on Chuggs. But Fanto is probably okay. I think Mao is okay, too. Sorian would want me to stay alive to defend him so that switch seems legit.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Uh oh
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    That was a joke. I do not have 1 flash of poison gas.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    You better not be a Kingkitty arsonist.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    what
     
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    No, but I do want your opinion on who should be pulled into the council tomorrow.
     
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    A bit of brevity because we're here all game.
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    God damn you auto-correct
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    you’re totally an arsonist aren’t you
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    Well, no. Unfortunately.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Okay well

    You better not be

    :thisisfine:
     
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    So how do you view day end, and who pops out to you after the reveal?
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Who to invite. Hmm.

    I don’t know yet about Loki. I know folks have said she’s town but I’m not feeling it yet.
     
  28. Verelios

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    We could've killed all our scum suspects if I were though.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I don’t know. Too many unknowns. And I haven’t been back over it because I’m cooking. I’ll have some ideas in a bit.

    Maybe we should invite someone who has a bad schedule so at least they could be here?
     
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    Hm...who has a bad schedule? Stan isn't playing.
     
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    Loki is good people, but I expect her to be more active than she was as town. Didn't build confidence.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Agreed. 100%

    malus, feps, Nicole all have bad schedules and I’m iffy on all of them. Is Stan next on the list? He might come in for Edge.

    I’m gonna cook. And I’ll let you know I’m in the auction tonight. Seems to be the room with the most people. Were you in there?
     
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    Yeaaaaah, I'm im too. Seems to be room based in that case.
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    How about we say 1 item to see if there's only one auction or more.

    There's a hidden camera.
     
  35. heymonkey

    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Oh!! One last thing before dinner: did you mean to invite me? Wondering if I got switched or if he was lying. I assume lying. But curious.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    And also the camera.
     
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    I'm kind of stumped on Nicole, really can't get a read on her play this game.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Oh shit we can coordinate. I already sent my bid. Dunno if we can change. I bid 9 on the ballot and 1 on the camera. You don’t have to tell me if you don’t want to.
     
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    Meant to, yeah. Actually was going to do it N1 but missed the window.
     
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    I bid 3 on the camera, 0 on the ballot and 7 on the Stomach medicine.
     
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    Yeah, we have until 2 hours to day start to change apparently.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Vincent replaced Edge, not Stan. Drat. I would have thought Edge was pretty safe but I think I'd rather wait and see VA and how he rolls.

    Ynnek and Bae are in prime bus spots on Sorian's vote - when it's totally set and you might as well climb on. People who were around, I think, and didn't were:

    Chuggs
    Faddy
    malus
    nin? Was nin still around? He said he would be until day end but I'm not sure and I haven't looked yet

    Definitely not around at the time:
    loki
    SweetNicole
    Edge/VA

    People who look good/better right now:
    Terra, obviously
    Fanto - but I want to see if he keeps finding reason to defend Bae
    Faddy (sigh.)
    Kalor
    Mao, possibly/probably

    People who look real bad:
    Bae - Kalor is a weird wagon to push if it was already a Bae/Terra wagon building but maybe Sorian just wanted it to be s/t/t to give better odds of the scum surviving. There's no way it was town/town and he pushed another wagon, right?
    Blarg - I'm honestly feeling not good at all about Blarg in this game and Sorian continuing on the "ignore Blarg until day 3-4" looks bad in retrospect. Counterpoint: he knew it would look bad. But.
    Chuggs may go here but I'm gonna re-read him


    If d1 votes were spread around between Terra/Edge/Zeke, I think we need to look at: Bae, loki, Chuggs, maaaaybe feps, possibly someone bouncing early due to scheduling, which puts malus into contention there for an early vote on Sneeks, which would have seemed safe, and Nicole. Anyway, I think the larger PoE at this point is probably:

    Bae
    Blarg
    Chuggs
    loki
    -----
    feps
    malus
    Nicole
    Zipped

    Line divides more possible from less possible.

    I suggest you invite Aeleus. Probably won't be NKed for a minute - widely townread, but there are bigger targets (me, Faddy, Terra, Fanto) who if all town would go before Aeleus, I think. I'd say Fanto but there's something sticky there I feel uncertain about. Kalor might be okay. I'd suggest Terra but they're gonna kill him.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    If the thread doesn't want to turbo Bae, the best world is Blarg/Bae wagons with someone who's in the gray zone as a third. Maybe Ynnek, who maaaaay be scum but maybe not.
     
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    You raise some good points. I can definitely see Blarg being detrimental, and Faddy has me wondering if he's neutral.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Oh, INTERESTING. Has Faddy ever been neutral? That could explain why he's been just so weird.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    What's the bad thing that happens in two (now one) days?
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    And Faddy as neutral could explain why he wants to put off his "reveal" - he has to stay alive for something. But is it passive? He was in the bathroom, after all.
     
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    It might be. Or maybe he just has a day action PR, who knows.
     
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    This reminds me of HvV2 where I had the ability to push any action done to me forward by two days. It might be something similar with last nights NK.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I think too in case it's a bomb, we should avoid whatever room scum reads were in last night and whatever room they might be in as we get toward tonight.
     
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    That's good too. I wonder if it'll help if they move around though.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I hope we both live. I hope we get good info from a night kill. I hope we are right and Bae is scum and we quickly find the others.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I'll miss you, friend! I hope this is a town power and I can keep trusting you and you're not actually an arsonist building your stable of victims!
     
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    This chat is now locked.
     
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    this chat is now open.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    What a shitty phase. :/ but I called strong I guess.

    Did you guess my role? I’m a little miffed I had to spell some things out for folks.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    So I’m wondering if people guessed or if I’m paranoid.
     
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    So this is where the ghost of kingkitty burns us both Monkey?
     
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    In all seriousness the fact that you invited someone who was likely to be killed relatively soon (monkey) makes me fairly confident you're not.

    Auction is in my room (the quarters) and the items available are an old sign, a horse and taco bell.

    Haven't had time to properly catch up in the thread yet (other than seeing the flip, huzzah!) so I'll do that now, happy that the turbo freed up my birthday :)
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    GOD I HOPE NOT BUT I'M SERIOUSLY PARANOID ABOUT IT

    Is it your birthday, A? Mine is tomorrow! high five, birthday buddies!

    lol a taco bell
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    I'll think on what those items could be. I only guessed one from the last auction. They're tricky. But maybe together we can figure out something useful for you.

    Are you gonna give US a clue about your numbers? (a girl can dream...)

    Anyway, I'm not sure what my schedule will be today. I still have fallout from family things to deal with so I'll chat when I can.
     
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    Happy birthday Aeleus!!
     
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    If it's any consolation, I didn't though I don't go looking for breadcrumbs. Though now you've mentioned it I did a quick ISO and have some theories...

    Both the horse and Taco Bell sound like popular items so they'll probably be hard to obtain (the horse is pretty cool tbh), I think it's probably a good idea to avoid the Taco Bell all together.
    Depending on how safe you two think it is I might just claim to be honest, I highly doubt either of you are scum at the least.
    Heard about your situation on discord, wishing everyone impacted by it the best.

    Thanks Narf.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    we can't die this phase, because it is our birthdays.
    thanks. we are handling it.

    I might just claim also but I want to here from Vere first.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Okay, Fanto's in the quarters with you, and I think he's safe, so that's fine. Ketkat may be in there with you and she's probably safe, so that's also good. I think all the scum suspects are elsewhere. wee is the only ??? and I don't think she's scum at this point. Mao's fine, I think.
     
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    I picked up on something, but I don't think you were clear enough for a tell. Although you calling Bae PR as a strong kill being the reason scum team tried to save her is amazing. That's pretty good deduction.
     
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    Happy Birthday Aeleus =)

    Happy you don't need to read 10+ pages for it.
     
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    Wishing you and your family the best Monkey.
     
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    I'm actually unsure about Wee. I wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to be neutral or scum.

    Why don't you think she'd be scum?
     
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    The Taco Bell sounds like a trap, although maybe that's what Fran wants us to think? It depends on how many people are betting though so you don't void your bets.

    As for claiming, that's up to you, but we might invite someone else next day phase if I live and they'll see the chat too.
     
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    Aeleus Well-Known Member

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    Given we've got such a large night phase I'll give it some more thought then.

    One worry I have is the possibility of this games version of Splinter's Lover claim from Conspiracy 1. That role could have won them the game by itself if it hadn't been cop checked and we've lost our cop.
     
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    That is really true, because who would expect one lover pair to be scum?
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Well, I have additional information, see.

    I don't think I'll live much longer so I'll just claim to y'all. I'm the doctor, and I can self target. I have NO target restrictions, in fact, but there's a chance every night that my ability will fail. I self-protected n1 and lived so I figured if there was a strong kill they'd sat and waited to see if there was decent protection in the game. I didn't bother trying to protect Terra n2 because I figured they'd strong it and would only target him if they had a strong kill.

    Since I lived n1 I assumed any strong killer didn't move and after the note that's who they'd be trying to protect since there was a cop claim somewhere in the world (unless it had been a messenger). So with the info I had, the deduction was clear. But I really didn't want to be in the bathroom since tonight I can choose between covering several potentials and try to game the scum team to see if I can stop the kill.
     
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    On Bae's death:

    A) It's really really good to see her flip scum with that role because she links pretty neatly with Sorian and Sawneeks as scum, up until now I've been slighly worrying that Fran had been playing around with lunch PMs

    B) Do either of you agree that Bae's claim was unusually weak? Her no movement N1 suggests she used her ninja power (I don't think there'd be any reason for her not to do the kill) so why not just say she didn't move because she wasn't sure if her role would help or hurt town? And why weaken the claim even more by saying she targeted me who was in the bathroom? Most likely explanation is it was a panic claim rather than planned out in scum chat but I can't help but be paranoid (doubt it's something to give Fanto more town cred though given it'll be pretty susp if he survives till eod now)
     
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    I figured you'd probably be a protective role but as I looked through your posts I started to really hope you were breadcrumbing hunter with these posts
     
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    I roll doctor a lot (which is kind of hilarious). I rarely roll anything fun like that!

    I agree that Bae's claim was weak and it makes me wonder if the remaining team just wasn't around to discuss it with her and to work out permutations. Bae is certainly one to go her own way and I expect she really was legit mad (she has rolled scum so often) but I still think she'd have talked had people been around.

    As for wee, just a feeling, Vere. I wouldn't call her town but I also don't feel too badly about her.
     
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    I will say though I have really bad feelings about Faddy. He just has NOT seemed town. And he should - the shit with Sorian should make him town, right? Or more likely to be? I can't tell if he's just not invested in this game or neutral or lowkey scum or what but I have really bad feelings about him. If he's town I wish scum would kill him so I can stop worrying there.
     
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    Ok so claim for me too I guess (I'm trusting you in trusting Vere here monkey), much less exciting but you know solving the game and all that.

    I am an adrenaline junkie, if I'm NK'd my death will be delayed until the end of the next day phase. I don't know if I've been killed and apparently there's no way to prevent my death.

    Coincidentally Monkey I too thought I was the reason for the no kill N1, that's why I tried to be as aggresive towards Bae as possible and made a claims list so early, leave with no regrets and all that.

    The numbers were part of a fun breadcrumb because I just can't help myself.
    C9H13NO3, as in the chemical formula of Adrenaline.

    I really hope Scum wasted ages thinking about that :P
     
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    He was one of the people I had in mind when I was talking about Splinter's role, I'm really uncomfertable by how much he's pushing to wait on his role until LYLO
     
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    BRILLIANT, I hope they are EATEN UP with it
     
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    Yeah, there are a couple people I feel would make a good NK target.

    You
    Kalor
    Fanto is 50/50 if we get spicy
    Maol
    Zeke
    Aeleus might be good too since they're not widely scum read

    There's a pretty big spread on where it could land.
     
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    Yeah, there's literally no reason Faddy shouldn't use his PR tomorrow when we're 3 scum down and need more town clears, and if he doesn't I think that's a lunch. We'll see how willing Faddy is to use his PR.


    I didn't catch that, but that's cool! I guess town has another layer of insurance with you. But I hope you don't get hit NKed so you can live until Lylo. That would be insane.
     
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    And Ketkat.
     
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    Well, yeah. Ket too, but I feel like she would be down the ladder on NK targets.
     
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    @Aeleus who are your top 3 scum reads right now?
     
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    Currently I'd say Chuggs > Blarg > Nin, but I really need to find time to reread the thread as I'm a bit lost.
     
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    Blarg for sure. Sorian was body blocking there too. Not a smoking gun but combined with his behavior my gut is scum.
     
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    Ok so this post by Zeke
    He forgets that Sorian didn't flip switcher but redirector, do either of you buy this as genuine because I kind of do (especially as it seems you made the same mistake in this thread monkey).
     
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    I initially read it as a kind of switcher lol. Less a mistake of memory and more one of misreading for me.

    Zeke is a tough read in this thread and I wish scum would kill him.

    Watch Vere be scum and this is the most bastard role. oh no
     
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    If you haven't already considered the possibility that Vere is a secret cult leader who can't tell us anything and we're members of his cult then I don't know what to tell you.
     
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    Oh, I’ve considered all the possibilities but I’m here and I like Vere so I’m just gonna roll with it. But if I die tonight you should side eye him just in case.

    just in case.
     
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    Not going to lie, I thought his power was switcher at first (because I can't read) so that seems genuine.
    I like that conviction Monkey. You guys are stuck with me regardless after all ;)
     
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    Chuggs is coming off super weird. I don't think he's town but I also don't feel like he's scum. His detached mode of play definitely fits a neutral better.

    Blarg I can see as scum, and his weird vote switching might just be a smokescreen.

    Nin is blah to me. There's some fuckery going down with him.
     
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    How about Nicole? I don't like anything she did yesterday. I know some folks did but her behavior around the bomb stuff seemed deflective and I don't buy dumb clears. Who doesn't pay attention to flips? People who aren't invested.
     
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    Still Null. She hasn't set the world on fire but I can see most of her posts as coasting scum.

    Besides that one where she voted Terra but said she wouldn't mind a Bae flip, while also attacking Terra's Sorian kill option in PIK. That ended up looking pretty bad.
     
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    heymonkey yesssss my guinea pigs

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    Now it's MY birthday, so I decree no one in this chat can die this phase. Narf, take note. Birthday armor.
     
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    If Narf lets us die now it'll be confirmed he hates birthdays and fun in general.

    I'm in a similar position, feels like a player who'd eventually be lunched via POE if we get to that point so I want to strengthen my read on her?

    Any idea on who you're planning on recruiting. Ideally someone who is town and can contribute to discussion is some way, of my town reads I think Kalor might be a good idea.
     
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    Maaaaaan Kalor may be town but I'm not feeling his contributions to the thread so far. Why would you pick him, A? Please explain what you just explained.
    :laughing:

    why are our emojis so big: an outer mafia story
     
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    My town reads are (not including you two): Fanto, Sparks, Ketkat, Kalor and VA (faddy is off the list due to paranoia)

    Sparks is an obvious no go, there's a fair chance Fanto bites the NK and Ketkat has a lot going on about the bomb which honestly makes me more wary of her than before because hijinks (on that note how likely do you two think there is a bomber or do you just see it as a Fran distraction). Out of VA and Kalor I think Kalor is less likely to have been a scum counter bus and feel like he's a more active player who can make some decent arguements (though in retrospect I see that that's more based on my meta idea of what kind of player Kalor is rather than how he's particularly acted this game).
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    I'm thinking of either going all in on the old sign or going 9 ballot and 1 horse.