Spectator Thread Secret Tunnel, Yeah!

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  1. Sawneeks

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    welcome to the secret spec chat
     
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    Lone_Prodigy Am I at 10 posts yet?

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    All this Nation talk is gonna bite some people later on :x
     
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    Lone_Prodigy Am I at 10 posts yet?

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    FYI I average 60 posts a game.
     
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    it's true, you typically live to Day 6 on average
     
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    Ooohh, nice.
    I hope this is something like that Resetera Mafia mechanic where the neutrals got conversion shots (?) for every weird game mod the thread voted for. I liked how that screwed us good.
     
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    Liking the discussion so far. Monkey feeling bit too pushy and Stan a bit too cautious.
     
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    Same. There's a lot of good talk going on here. Polter is doing a good job explaining his thoughts and what he thinks. Fowl is posing good questions and his follow ups are good.
     
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    Oh, Fowl. When you get here I want to ask: where is your avatar from? It's absolutely adorable.
     
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    An unfortunate consequence of making the game smaller, AB. Though it kinda worked out in our favor considering the conversations happening right now lol
     
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    I can't believe they killed The Boulder on Day 1. I'm so heartbroken :'(
     
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    RIP me. I was surprised with a few of the votes at the end. But I didn't see any votes go on Stan which is probably means nothing.

    I'm not confident in any of my reads. But if Fran is scum I am going to be annoyed.

    Am I an idiot for thinking Nin claimed seer in like his 2nd post. No way that was just a typo.
     
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    Which nin post are you referring to?
     
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    Those final reads on Stan and Turmoil came off pretty definite lol

    GG Faddy, surprised you were the D1 lunch like that; got zero scum vibes from you. Wouldn’t be surprised if scum had a stake in this due to that.
     
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    Faddy of, having, or involving transitory whims

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    You gotta project confidence even if you don't know anything.

    Not like anyone is going to listen anyway.

    RIP Fantomas
     
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    Faddy of, having, or involving transitory whims

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    And RIP absolutbro I guess even though he completely betrayed me.
     
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    Faddy of, having, or involving transitory whims

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    Oh yeah this.

    nin said something like "did you seer the last game"

    Now maybe that is just a typo but I get super paranoid over people just dropping huge breadcrumbs like that.
     
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    nope that's just nin being nin. his flavor name isnt even remotely seer related either :p
     
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    There are some reaaallll good plays happening right now and it's getting a lot harder not to talk about them. I'm really impressed by these and I hope those people end up winning here.
     
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    But soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and [​IMG] is the sun!
     
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    Hello, finally!

    Those punks that voted for Faddy are lucky I got killed! I was gunna be all like this at day start:

    [​IMG]



    My suspect list coming in to the day was:
    Stan
    Turmoil
    Fran
    Malus
    DoubleD

    I'd be voting for Turmoil right now along with my Town, Fowl and Monkey, if I was still alive. If either of them are Scum, then fuck me lol.

    If I'm wrong on anyone else that I'm Town leaning, it's likely Royal. I have Nin and Castamere in my Null Zone.


    I'm not sure if I got killed because of my flavor claim or not, but I'm glad I did it either way, and I'd do it again lol almost everyone was Town reading me for it.

    ----

    Put it on my tombstone.

    Here lies Fanto
    Probably killed because he was townread
    She is likely Scum here, actually. I may have just mentioned above that she's my top Town read, but don't let that fool you, she can still be Scum here.
     
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    I thought that might be the case. If it won't spoil anything, what was Katara's PR originally?

    FWIW, I legit felt bad about voting you. No one was going to trim Nin with me and I fully thought that the Stan train was pure BS.

    Also, glad I died, because at this point I would probably be tunneling hard on Monkey. That first post of the day (or one of the early ones at any rate) got my hackles all up.

    Of course, knowing my luck Stan is in fact scum and I fully fucked town over D1.
     
  25. Fanto

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    Nah, I'm pretty sure he's Town at this point, I liked Fowl's read on that situation.

    (Fuck me for real if Fowl is Scum though, he has to be Town, right?)
     
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    Katara was originally going to be the Doctor. Scum also had a x-shot Strongman to counter but that role got tossed into the trash as well.
     
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    Was I always going to be Vanilla? Because come on, Ty Lee is the perfect Roleblocker!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Think in a realllyyy early draft of the game we had Ty Lee as a Roleblocker for anyone using bending. We cut back on a lot of roles as time went on
     
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    Scum doesn't trust me and Faddy together on Town, look what happened last game while we were both alive! :P
     
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    Don't think people were expecting Stan to make such a townie opening statement to the Day. It's really slowed momentum while people look for new fodder :p
     
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    Can see Monkey as scum right now, maybe with a turmoil on the ticket. I think I'd vote between Monkey and Fran this phase to see what flipped and go from there right now.
     
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    Monkey just over here flattering me, but no, I was likely the target because a Doctor would have been protecting Fowl or you, Monkey, not me lol.
     
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    There's no way Monkey is town. None. I'd guess Fran is scum as well, based on their posts back and forth today.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    This is my playstyle as well. I always start by figuring out who my current Town reads are because it makes it easier for me to figure out who I want to prioritize from the remaining pile.

    I really like Fowl lol, he's my kind of Mafia player.
     
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    I dont buy the Turm claim.
     
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    Given I was supposed to be the doctor, I really don't believe it. Now it's just a question of how many other scum jump on the bus.
     
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    PLEASE STANDBY

    Finally, some action!
     
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    OMINOUS
     
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    \o/
     
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    Ignoring the maybe ominous announcement

    curious to see who they vote off the island today. Kinda hoping they ignore [redacted] since they have one of my favorite roles in the game. :<
     
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    Kinda bummed that we have so many folks under the post count limit right now. LoC already said he was likely busy this weekend so that makes sense but Nin and Turm? Think I know way the latter is doing this at least.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    I'll just say this: scum is shockingly quiet considering one of them may be lunched here
     
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    oh my god

    oh MY god

    i...that.....holy shit
     
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    Did they really let Turmoil get away with this?
     
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    y...yes??

    i'm at a total loss but, yes, i think they did.
     
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    Amazing EoD lol
     
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    I'm trying so hard not to use this gif in malus' flip

    [​IMG]
     
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    Well, first PR command we've received may turn Town around. We'll see how it keeps going.
     
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    I should have taken that break I was talking about before the game. I was completely disengaged and not really motivated to play at all. Monkey is town for sure and I probably just saved scum, so I also managed to ruin it for everyone on my team.
    Sorry to all I have disappointed, I will probably not play in any game for a while.
     
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    Nah you're good, Malus. Honestly there's a decent amount to look at this phase and especially at the end if Town can get itself back together again.
     
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    You're all good malus.

    although I dont think Monkey is town :P

    Seriously though, take all the time off you need. These games get intense.
     
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    Oof, good luck in there Vere lol.
     
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    I don't think I've ever seen 3 overnight replacements before, tomorrow is going to be an interesting day with all the fresh faces.
     
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    Yeah, it's gonna be a bit rough. :<

    Think the activity will kick up for sure since all 3 of these replacements are covering low post count folks.
     
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    I'm guessing Fowl is the Mafia NK for tonight, though that's not really a bold prediction lol.
     
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    The bold prediction is that Natiko is Town and Scum are so fearful of him entering the game that they just shoot him immediately, like Scum did to Gorlak in GoT lol. :P
     
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    Well...good news is the Tracker caught the kill tonight.

    Bad news is they were the kill.

    :(
     
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    RIP Royal.

    Surprised at no kill on Fowl or Monkey yet...
     
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    Hi everyone, I subbed out because I was feeling awful, and I am taking a mafia hiatus (tm) regarding playing

    No kill? I guess the double kill was a vigilante then
     
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    So Polter is Aang? Interesting... That's a weird role claim, I don't trust him lol.
     
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    Blatantly admitting to not reading every post!

    I am so offended by this lol.
     
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    I'm 80% sure I would have solved the game for Christ's sake.
     
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    Was it a bad move pushing away from turmoil? I'm a tracker I can verify his claim or catch him red-handed?

    malus just looked exactly like me when I'm Scum with nothing to talk about because I know too much.
     
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    Also we need to talk about how signing up for a game is a commitment and doing so and then dropping without some unexpected real life shit is disrespectful of the game and the community imo.

    (this especially means loc is excused)
     
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    That fowl playa slip with Verelios as the only named replacement... it has to be real, right?
     
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    WHO TOLD YOU ALL THE SCUM FLAVOR NAMES. SPILL.
     
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    If you hadn't of been killed you coulda really helped out there. Think once one scum falls they can easily catch the others.
     
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    Mmmm, yes. This is the chaos and infighting we need!
     
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    Feel like we've hit the point with Monkey's meta that anything she does now is 'not solving/pointing fingers/asking questions' and thus means she is scum. It feels like the bar has been set super high for her to hit it and, i dont know, it feels weird.

    Is she really not solving this time around? To me it looks like she is.
     
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    Also side note since we are speaking in meta. Stan going from a possible Day 1 lunch to nothing now is highly amusing. He puts in some effort with that pretyped post and suddenly everyone doesn't want to look at him funny incase he pulls out a knife. It's great.
     
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    Thought i got to this earlier but guess not. :x

    We've brought it up in the last 2 review threads and during post game in some cases. we've been trying to really hammer home how much of a commitment it is but that gets skewed when games have slow sign ups I think. People end up joining despite being unsure of a time commitment because X game has taken a while to fill up so instead of sitting out people hop in so the game can 'go'.
     
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    I'm just catching up on the thread now.
    Vote: Verelios

    In other news, Monkey being Scum would be wild, I currently do not have her as Scum yet and I think the arguments against her are bad. I think her Scum likeliness goes up if Vere is Town, but I highly doubt that at this moment.

    I suppose my overall reads are like:
    Town:
    Fowl
    Monkey
    Stan
    Fran
    Polter
    Z-Beat

    Which leaves me with:
    Tearable
    Verelios
    Natiko
    Zipped
    SalvaPot

    I wouldn't be terribly shocked if the Scum team was in that PoE? A lot of it does rest on Vere being Scum though, I'd toss that whole read list out the window if he flipped Town here.
    She's been saying all day I think that she doesn't have much time, she just seems like busy Monkey who hasn't had time to do her usual thing yet today. She's been "solving" all game so far imo.
     
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    I'm sort of on both sides (lol) of this argument.

    1. I absolutely loathe meta arguments. I know that's slightly hypocritical since even in this game I've explained some things as meta (see: Faddy throwing out ideas as hard facts), but does anyone remember Cherry who would change their entire playstyle each game? I feel like heads would explode if she was still around, since people lean on meta so, so hard. Meta "so and so would be doing ___________" arguments are frustrating because there's no real defense against them. "Town Bro usually does _____" quick hint: I dont have separate play styles for town and scum. No one really does.

    2. Granted I havent read over the last page or two of the game thread, but start of day that I died made me really scumread Monkey. I'm probably 100% wrong though.

    3. Turmoil is still scum, and town just going 'oh, you're a weak doctor? okay, moving on' is just ... get it together town!
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    semi off topic

    Just saw this and had a good laugh
     
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    I'm just kind of skimming through the thread and lol, there's so much paranoia and huge posts in there I can't even follow what's going on anymore.

    I just hope they vote for Vere.
     
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    Uhg salva misgendered monkey in post 1463
     
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    Okay, that's what I thought.
    Heh, Cherry in this environment would be a lot of fun to see. If I played more often and could pull that off even half as well as she could I would try for it.

    Honestly this monkey fixation feels more like a byproduct of no scum lunches than monkey doing anything. Sucks. :(
     
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    This argument about monkey being scummy because of Stan/Turm is nonsense by the way. If she is scummy because of them then why not flip them first? Especially Turm/Vere. Hell, it seems like almost everyone agrees against Turm/Vere??????

    idk
     
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    This is what I would be arguing in there, but from what I read I was seeing multiple people still treating the 50% Doctor claim as being worthy of considering as real, so...???

    Turm/Vere was the flip that should have happened yesterday, and now they are trying to talk themselves out of it today. My guess is that Town is starting to go into ultra-anxiety mode since they still haven't hit Scum and the numbers are (probably) going to start getting dire after today if they hit Town again, so they are worried that taking out an "easy" target like Turm/Vere today, and them flipping Town, will doom them for the rest of the game.

    I'm also skimming and not totally caught up on the thread, so that's just my guess based on what I did read lol. :P
     
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    Catching up with the thread and reading all the "turm vere" I feel like if I am blending into a single person with Vere :p

    Sorry for the shitty position I left you in, vere
     
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    Right. And him flipping Town, plus a protective PR at that, would seriously hurt.

    But this still doesn't disregard all of the evidence against him that didn't go away. Plus I think Salva said it but it's a common scum tactic to claim a PR near Day End to either bring out a real claim or to live. His claim fit that bill.
     
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    Exactly, there are perfectly good cases still from before his claim, and the claim itself is a classic Scum claim. And even though I always say this, I think this is classic Scum Vere running around in there as well from what I've read, I just don't think anyone is calling him out for it.

    I would be pushing that as the obvious vote for the day if I was in there still, and hard defending Monkey too lol.
     
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    I know it's not the same but I did as tracker

    It got me lunched too
     
  87. Fanto

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    Ok, actually reading some things now, and oh my god! I am in love with this post!
    Oh my gooooooooddddd, I love this so much! Yes, hard defend Monkey! Call out the people who are saying she's playing sloppily, of all fucking people lol.
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    Thank you lol, Vere is being his Scum self here 100%.
    Look at this list, what? No kill? Protect Stan? Lmao.
    RIGHT!?!?!?!

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    My Scum Team is Verelios/Salva/Natiko currently? I think that makes sense as long as Vere flips Scum today.

    I'm pretty sure Natiko is just Scum here tbh. I'm not like, fully reading his posts, but when I see his reads and his votes, and when I do read his posts, I'm just like "You're not Town, are you?"

    Fran is a mayyyyyyyyyybe if I'm wrong there, but I think he's more likely Town right now than Natiko, his reads make sense at least.

    If I'm wrong on Salva, then maybe Tearable or Zipped is, idk, but out of those 3, Salva seems most likely.

    I have Polter as Town, but Z-Beat is basically my Null right now, he might just be fucking around, idk.

    In before Monkey and/or Fowl are Scum instead.
     
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    I will assume this means that I am 100% correct and your eyes are looking down at the Scum team list to confirm how right I was!
     
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    Just as a heads up, I'm taking a break from Era for a while, so I wont' be reading the game either, but I'll still pop in here to see how things are unfolding now and then.

    My reads above are locked in, I have no changes to make. I fully expect to be completely wrong and for Fowl and Monkey to be Scum together or whatever, but meh, that's the best I can do.
     
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    that's fine, Fanto. I'm sure reading just the spec thread will make complete sense and won't be confusing at all :p
     
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    RIP my favorite role in the game. never even got to be used ;;7

    and Vere. RIP. for jumping into a rough spot he for sure succeeded with creating chaos before he died.
     
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    Oh boy, good looking out Spec. I thought I'd be able to wiggle out of this but the moment I saw the doc claim two thoughts came to mind:

    1. I'm definitely dead.
    2. I could either come forward and say it was a joke right then, the moment I stepped in, or I'd have to take it to the grave.

    In hindsight I probably should have come clean on the doc claim and based my play from there. It would have at least bought me a day (maybe).

    I failed you mate @turmoil7.
     
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    No, this phase was a very good game by you given the circumstances, at some point others would had to self defense vote and we were the one everyone has as 1st or 2nd so it was a foregone conclusion

    Good job!
     
  95. Fanto

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    I took a peek at the flip just to be sure I was right lol.

    My reads still make sense with the vote count too, the people voting Monkey look so bad, and then Natiko with the customary bus vote to seal it.
     
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    Lol, I live being eternally scum read.
     
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    Now to see where Town goes from here! And if that extra kill may or may not show back up.
     
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    I am forever mad I didn't have a limit break ability called Sozin's Comet.
     
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    will scum remember to send the kill command?

    :eyes:
     
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    5 minutes late

    :eyes: