Scum Thread Fire Lord's Throne Room

Sawneeks

Queen Doppelpopolis
Welcome, Scum Team!

Here you can chat, plan, scheme, and commit mischievous acts to your hearts content. Within reason, of course.

Good luck! May you destroy the Avatar and his allies!
 

Sawneeks

Queen Doppelpopolis
Some safe fake claims:
Sokka / Water Tribe
Roku / Fire Nation
Kanna (Gran Gran) / Water Tribe
Mechanist / Earth Kingdom
Guru Pathik / No country
 
Sup ch'all. I'm a 2-shot role cop.

Who are the best town players to look out for on RA? Anyone I should be worried about?
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Don't concern yourself too much, nobody is particularly a good or bad player and we will make decisions based on guts

Is this your first time playing mafia/forum mafia?

Don't be afraid of asking anything you don't understand, although general questions about the game you could ask in the main thread to play the innocent newbie card :eyes:
 
also that being said, dont think i am particularly good or rely on me just because i have played for a while, lol. i think i'm average at best, just hoping to have fun here
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
dont worry

regarding my role, being hammerer is kinda negative utility imo and probably I won't use it (although I may for the lulz)

being bulletproof has circumstancial utility

so if worse come to worst dont doubt to bus me for the #towncred

OTOH You should be saved while you have shots
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
oh and @Z-beat who of our fake claim list would fit well with a bulletproof fake claim if I were to go that route? I pick that name for myself
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Sup ch'all. I'm a 2-shot role cop.

Who are the best town players to look out for on RA? Anyone I should be worried about?
Fanto tends to put in the most work
speaking of, whats your role zbeat?
Azula goon
oh and @Z-beat who of our fake claim list would fit well with a bulletproof fake claim if I were to go that route? I pick that name for myself
hmmm, hard to say. I guess the guru if anyone since he succeeded in not having Appa Maul him to death, but also Roku's a ghost
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
@fowl playa as a role cop you may want to take Sokka since he's the tactical dude (and was a detective for one episode) but up to you. If you do there are plenty of GIFs to use to nonchalantly breadcrumb
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
I pick ghost Roku Fire Nation person, I think I can remember that

I doubt claiming role cop would be wise for him as it's a scum role 99.9% of the time :p
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Do you think the Nation/Kigndom could have weight gameplay-wise?

Like an investigator who checks what nation someone is aligned too, it would be a weaker version of a cop
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Do you think the Nation/Kigndom could have weight gameplay-wise?

Like an investigator who checks what nation someone is aligned too, it would be a weaker version of a cop
I am
Fire Lord Ozai, a member of the Fire Nation
same as the roku fakeclaim that I picked, lucky

Maybe you both should pick names that fit your actual nation just in case
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Do you think the Nation/Kigndom could have weight gameplay-wise?

Like an investigator who checks what nation someone is aligned too, it would be a weaker version of a cop
I think so, yeah. Roku is Fire Nation so it works out.
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Also we may want to be wary of a Toph. I have the sneaking suspicion that they're a lie detector.
 
That's really smart. I'm used to playing vanilla games so I don't usually make inferences off of flavor like this, but this is all good stuff.

Lie detector shouldn't be problematic if we hold off flavor claiming with the safe claims for as long as possible.
 
dont worry

regarding my role, being hammerer is kinda negative utility imo and probably I won't use it (although I may for the lulz)

being bulletproof has circumstancial utility

so if worse come to worst dont doubt to bus me for the #towncred

OTOH You should be saved while you have shots
You being a BP definitely confirms that town has KP, probably limited kill power but KP nonetheless. In that sense it's extremely valuable in that you get a second chance if the vig is suspecting you and you can just play it off saying you thought scum hit you for read x or read y such and such.

You don't have to publicly announce when you use your hammerer role right? Just be on the lookout for possibly cheesing a quick kill on someone who has good reads. I don't necessarily think it's useless
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Mmmkay, so between you and Fanto (who is either Iroh or Zuko), kingdom alignment is not indicative of actual alignment. In that case you may want to take the earth kingdom flavor claim
 
you're referring to the mechanist? whys that more advantageous over claiming sokka?

i think a lie detector would hypothetically ask about my character claim instead of my kingdom claim

maybe there is a kingdom cop? kingdoms seem to play a big role in the role pms
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
yeah my bet is that kingdoms matter and being caught claiming one you aren't is a gotcha in the design

re: hammerer

details of my power: anonymous, can be used multiple times but NOT in mylo/lylo

My issue with it is that it can give extra info to town, ie, to use it I have to hammer someone I am not currently voting for, so town can deduct the hammer isn't one of the people currently on the wagon, that would be to my detriment if it happens I am last scum standing during end game
 
turmoil i had to vote you for now because it'd look bad if i didnt but i'll peel off in a few hours

you answering my Q about faddy in the thread should help me do that
 
hmm z looks under the radar to me

i dont want to actually bus d1, just putting the ideas there so it looks believable later
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
how so thats a bit specific
Kyoshi's the only avatar character with any sort of major fleshing out in ATLA through a novel which Fran mentioned is why he bailed out of researching his flavor role, and his hesitation at the mention of alignments and benders makes me think he's one.
 
Kyoshi's the only avatar character with any sort of major fleshing out in ATLA through a novel which Fran mentioned is why he bailed out of researching his flavor role, and his hesitation at the mention of alignments and benders makes me think he's one.
i think he was referring to the length of the article but you may not be wrong

interesting
 
we're doing quite well today doesn't look like any of us are close to dying

what do you guys think about the NK tonight? any PR hunches?
 
I feel like Z-Beat is going to be the one of us that has the most chances of being the deep wolf that goes to the very late game, so I propose we start a killing strategy based on leaving a town that trusts him in the endgame
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
If faddy/fran keep their quarrel, I think we should rolecop one of them and side on thread with whoever has the strongest role, mislunch the other

Dunno qho could be a decent NK choice

AB is good in the late game, maybe him
 
it does not look like AB will be lynched any time soon so if hes very good late it seems like a good kill

rolecop strat looks good
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
I feel like Z-Beat is going to be the one of us that has the most chances of being the deep wolf that goes to the very late game, so I propose we start a killing strategy based on leaving a town that trusts him in the endgame
I'd rather keep it open. I sense a trap that might not be avoidable and if I hit it the whole thing could fall apart. It's happened before
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
what kinda trap?
movement and kingdom tracking traps. That's why I advised that the cover match the kingdom, at least until we know what's up. Then you can pick whatever cover you want. I think it's also why we were only given the amount of fire nation covers that we have. It's for balancing reasons
 
yeah im going to be "looking for scum" tomorrow in the faddy wagon formation, that looks like textbook scum saving scum, avoiding flipping stan via lynch can help me sustain that longer

not planning to land on you first though, theres enough to go around
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
We could kill Fran if Z-beat thinks he is a PR

Also so that he keeps Faddy company in the spec thread
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Since I am the most scumreaded I will send the kill

Do we agree on AB?

We can change it later so

KILL:Absolutbro

Not sure who to rolecop

yolo it
 
we got 24h to figure this out so im teaking a break for the day,

im fine with you guys taking the wheel on my rolecop and the kill. i have no opinions and have no clue how anyone acts as pr

other than my preferred preference for propping up ZB later because i can envision roughly that turmoil and i will eventually be lynched if the game goes long due to the fact that both of us stick out more
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
My guess for what PRs town has based on ours is

kingdom-cop
X-shot tracker/1-shot cop
doctor
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
My take is that the game is mostly normal + kingdoms

We have fairly normal roles after all

Also throw a vig at that power composition I posted, I forgot it
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
So that you know in this community dayvigs are more common than the normal variety, at least that is my perception
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Typical balancing layout is 1 scum for every 3 town. There are (were) 16 players. That'd put us at 12 Town 4 scum. There is ABSOLUTELY a serial killer/Hitman, and it's either Hama or Combustion Man. Be wary of remaining water tribe/fire nation players
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Here's the thing: if I'm right about Nin being Hama, then if I keep the pressure on he'll likely not go for me in the night because that'd be suspicious as fuck, but if I'm wrong, the actual neutral might just keep me alive so that I continue to throw everyone off. But you may think that it'd mean that scum would just kill me to implicate Nin. Maybe, but a smarter scum play would be to keep the supposed neutral alive for as long as possible to help thin out the herd at night, hence why I might not be NK'd after making such a drastic assumption
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Nin might be dangerous. But even if he's not, it's best that they assume he is for as long as possible.
 
That looks more like an SK kill to me.

I'll reread d1 again to see if anyone wasn't too hot on Fanto to find a possible vig but he looked pretty UTR to me.

That would imply town has no vig or an even-night vig though
 
this play is a bit ambitious but YOLO

im relying on you to explain your faddy read in a bit more depth if you were ever going ot change my mind here fmpov if i was town
 
On the off chance that you live today and I get killed by the SK tonight you can use me pushing on you as a defense

You don't necessarily have to give up, I think if you give a good explanation for d1 there are other people that guys will be willing to kill
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
I think that Z beat should keep the Roku claim just in case he considers wise using it later, as we only have one Fire claim

I'll take Guru Pathik No country
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
I think my fakeclaim will be guru patik the faith healer*

*50% success rate on healing
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
I don't know if this is a thing but you could probably also take reverse roleblocker or something since that's what he does.
 
you can BS something about guru pathik taking the kingdom of the person he visited the night before if you get kingdom investigated
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
So Double D was water tribe. If they weren't Sokka, Gran Gran, or Katara, as far as major water tribe characters that only leaves Batu, Khota, Pakku, and Yue who wouldn't be scum
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Mmm

We're probably both gonna catch heat for that change. You were better off letting the tie happen.

It's fine. I'll think of something
 
Mmm

We're probably both gonna catch heat for that change. You were better off letting the tie happen.

It's fine. I'll think of something
Tie is NL which is too -EV from town POV

It's better to ML than to not get any new info

I had intention to ride out my vote until EOD but nobody else was changing with 2 mins left so I just decided fuck it

I'll just act frustrated that malus forced us to lynch him