Scum Thread Fire Lord's Throne Room

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  1. Sawneeks

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    Welcome, Scum Team!

    Here you can chat, plan, scheme, and commit mischievous acts to your hearts content. Within reason, of course.

    Good luck! May you destroy the Avatar and his allies!
     
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    Some safe fake claims:
    Sokka / Water Tribe
    Roku / Fire Nation
    Kanna (Gran Gran) / Water Tribe
    Mechanist / Earth Kingdom
    Guru Pathik / No country
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Hi there scummies

    I am 1 shot bulletproof and 1 shot hammerer
     
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    Great Fire Lord Ozai! Forgive the intrusion. Your powers allow you an unlimited amount of Hammers as per your role.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sup ch'all. I'm a 2-shot role cop.

    Who are the best town players to look out for on RA? Anyone I should be worried about?
     
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    Don't concern yourself too much, nobody is particularly a good or bad player and we will make decisions based on guts

    Is this your first time playing mafia/forum mafia?

    Don't be afraid of asking anything you don't understand, although general questions about the game you could ask in the main thread to play the innocent newbie card :eyes:
     
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    nah ive played since 07 or 08. i got recruited from a thread advertising this game on mafiauniverse
     
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    speaking of, whats your role zbeat?
     
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    also that being said, dont think i am particularly good or rely on me just because i have played for a while, lol. i think i'm average at best, just hoping to have fun here
     
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    dont worry

    regarding my role, being hammerer is kinda negative utility imo and probably I won't use it (although I may for the lulz)

    being bulletproof has circumstancial utility

    so if worse come to worst dont doubt to bus me for the #towncred

    OTOH You should be saved while you have shots
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    oh and @Z-beat who of our fake claim list would fit well with a bulletproof fake claim if I were to go that route? I pick that name for myself
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Fanto tends to put in the most work
    Azula goon
    hmmm, hard to say. I guess the guru if anyone since he succeeded in not having Appa Maul him to death, but also Roku's a ghost
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    @fowl playa as a role cop you may want to take Sokka since he's the tactical dude (and was a detective for one episode) but up to you. If you do there are plenty of GIFs to use to nonchalantly breadcrumb
     
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    I pick ghost Roku Fire Nation person, I think I can remember that

    I doubt claiming role cop would be wise for him as it's a scum role 99.9% of the time :p
     
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    Do you think the Nation/Kigndom could have weight gameplay-wise?

    Like an investigator who checks what nation someone is aligned too, it would be a weaker version of a cop
     
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    I am
    same as the roku fakeclaim that I picked, lucky

    Maybe you both should pick names that fit your actual nation just in case
     
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    yeah sokka probably fits my role well
     
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    I think so, yeah. Roku is Fire Nation so it works out.
     
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    It's a fallback
    [​IMG]
     
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    Also we may want to be wary of a Toph. I have the sneaking suspicion that they're a lie detector.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Or are a tracker to sense movement
     
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    That's really smart. I'm used to playing vanilla games so I don't usually make inferences off of flavor like this, but this is all good stuff.

    Lie detector shouldn't be problematic if we hold off flavor claiming with the safe claims for as long as possible.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    fowl what was your flavor btw?
     
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    You being a BP definitely confirms that town has KP, probably limited kill power but KP nonetheless. In that sense it's extremely valuable in that you get a second chance if the vig is suspecting you and you can just play it off saying you thought scum hit you for read x or read y such and such.

    You don't have to publicly announce when you use your hammerer role right? Just be on the lookout for possibly cheesing a quick kill on someone who has good reads. I don't necessarily think it's useless
     
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    I am long feng of the earth kingdom, something something leader of Ba Sing Sei's secret police. I wish I got some sort of brainwashing power.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Mmmkay, so between you and Fanto (who is either Iroh or Zuko), kingdom alignment is not indicative of actual alignment. In that case you may want to take the earth kingdom flavor claim
     
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    you're referring to the mechanist? whys that more advantageous over claiming sokka?

    i think a lie detector would hypothetically ask about my character claim instead of my kingdom claim

    maybe there is a kingdom cop? kingdoms seem to play a big role in the role pms
     
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    yeah my bet is that kingdoms matter and being caught claiming one you aren't is a gotcha in the design

    re: hammerer

    details of my power: anonymous, can be used multiple times but NOT in mylo/lylo

    My issue with it is that it can give extra info to town, ie, to use it I have to hammer someone I am not currently voting for, so town can deduct the hammer isn't one of the people currently on the wagon, that would be to my detriment if it happens I am last scum standing during end game
     
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    that's a fair point
     
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    turmoil i had to vote you for now because it'd look bad if i didnt but i'll peel off in a few hours

    you answering my Q about faddy in the thread should help me do that
     
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    or not, since its apparently your meta as Fran just pointed out. whatever you think is best i'll play by ear
     
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    Pretty sure Fran's Kyoshi
     
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    how so thats a bit specific
     
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    don't mind riding my bus until the direst consequences if you must, fowl
     
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    I kinda want to bus z beat
     
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    death to flavor
     
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    hmm z looks under the radar to me

    i dont want to actually bus d1, just putting the ideas there so it looks believable later
     
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    Kyoshi's the only avatar character with any sort of major fleshing out in ATLA through a novel which Fran mentioned is why he bailed out of researching his flavor role, and his hesitation at the mention of alignments and benders makes me think he's one.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    I've breadcrumbed it just to be on the safe side.
     
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    i think he was referring to the length of the article but you may not be wrong

    interesting
     
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    we're doing quite well today doesn't look like any of us are close to dying

    what do you guys think about the NK tonight? any PR hunches?
     
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    I feel like Z-Beat is going to be the one of us that has the most chances of being the deep wolf that goes to the very late game, so I propose we start a killing strategy based on leaving a town that trusts him in the endgame
     
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    If faddy/fran keep their quarrel, I think we should rolecop one of them and side on thread with whoever has the strongest role, mislunch the other

    Dunno qho could be a decent NK choice

    AB is good in the late game, maybe him
     
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    it does not look like AB will be lynched any time soon so if hes very good late it seems like a good kill

    rolecop strat looks good
     
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    I'd rather keep it open. I sense a trap that might not be avoidable and if I hit it the whole thing could fall apart. It's happened before
     
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    what kinda trap?
     
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    based on AB's final 3-read list the kill looks good for the purposes of misdirection
     
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    movement and kingdom tracking traps. That's why I advised that the cover match the kingdom, at least until we know what's up. Then you can pick whatever cover you want. I think it's also why we were only given the amount of fire nation covers that we have. It's for balancing reasons
     
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    Are the three of our actual (scum) names fire kingdom?
     
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    You two are Fire and I'm earth, AFAIK
     
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    wow that was very unexpected
     
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    no matter what I am a goner tomorrow but I regret nothing
     
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    huh, well I did my best to defend you Stan, truly
     
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    yeah im going to be "looking for scum" tomorrow in the faddy wagon formation, that looks like textbook scum saving scum, avoiding flipping stan via lynch can help me sustain that longer

    not planning to land on you first though, theres enough to go around
     
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    i still like the AB kill you sugested but im open to anything
     
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    yep
     
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    We could kill Fran if Z-beat thinks he is a PR

    Also so that he keeps Faddy company in the spec thread
     
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    i have no clue who to rolecop, not fran now
     
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    Since I am the most scumreaded I will send the kill

    Do we agree on AB?

    We can change it later so

    KILL:Absolutbro

    Not sure who to rolecop

    yolo it
     
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    we got 24h to figure this out so im teaking a break for the day,

    im fine with you guys taking the wheel on my rolecop and the kill. i have no opinions and have no clue how anyone acts as pr

    other than my preferred preference for propping up ZB later because i can envision roughly that turmoil and i will eventually be lynched if the game goes long due to the fact that both of us stick out more
     
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    you yolo it for me

    AB looks good
     
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    See ya tomorrow

    fowl playa:ROLECOP:TearablePuns
     
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    ROLECOP: TearablePuns

    ROLECOP: TearablePuns
     
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    Commands received!

    You can always change them up to 2 hours before day start. :>
     
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    My guess for what PRs town has based on ours is

    kingdom-cop
    X-shot tracker/1-shot cop
    doctor
     
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    but complexity unusual
     
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    My take is that the game is mostly normal + kingdoms

    We have fairly normal roles after all

    Also throw a vig at that power composition I posted, I forgot it
     
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    x-shot vig seems almost certain

    could be a kingdom vig
     
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    So that you know in this community dayvigs are more common than the normal variety, at least that is my perception
     
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    Your target is Vanilla
     
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    Woah, the vig killed fanto
     
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    Or serial killer...
     
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    Ayylmao I will read stan's rant later but I am glad I saved him
     
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    Typical balancing layout is 1 scum for every 3 town. There are (were) 16 players. That'd put us at 12 Town 4 scum. There is ABSOLUTELY a serial killer/Hitman, and it's either Hama or Combustion Man. Be wary of remaining water tribe/fire nation players
     
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    We won't know for sure until the following night
     
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    I read the rant and now I feel guilty and I did nothing
     
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    I legit did my best to save Stan
     
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    Here's the thing: if I'm right about Nin being Hama, then if I keep the pressure on he'll likely not go for me in the night because that'd be suspicious as fuck, but if I'm wrong, the actual neutral might just keep me alive so that I continue to throw everyone off. But you may think that it'd mean that scum would just kill me to implicate Nin. Maybe, but a smarter scum play would be to keep the supposed neutral alive for as long as possible to help thin out the herd at night, hence why I might not be NK'd after making such a drastic assumption
     
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    Executive summary: nin is dangerous?

    I already knew it

    :nin:
     
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    Nin might be dangerous. But even if he's not, it's best that they assume he is for as long as possible.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Plus I think the only one truly aware of how I play as scum was Fanto
     
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    That looks more like an SK kill to me.

    I'll reread d1 again to see if anyone wasn't too hot on Fanto to find a possible vig but he looked pretty UTR to me.

    That would imply town has no vig or an even-night vig though
     
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    Who were all of Fanto's suspects?
     
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    I didn't expect Stan to show up this big so my next move is puzlzing lol
     
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    im in the most logical position to turn up the heat right on turm now but im afraid of getting SKed
     
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    this play is a bit ambitious but YOLO

    im relying on you to explain your faddy read in a bit more depth if you were ever going ot change my mind here fmpov if i was town
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    I doubt I can convince anyone I am town, just do what you are doing
     
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    On the off chance that you live today and I get killed by the SK tonight you can use me pushing on you as a defense

    You don't necessarily have to give up, I think if you give a good explanation for d1 there are other people that guys will be willing to kill
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Stan got saved for some reason and that reason is no reason

    Which is enough
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    I think that Z beat should keep the Roku claim just in case he considers wise using it later, as we only have one Fire claim

    I'll take Guru Pathik No country
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    I think my fakeclaim will be guru patik the faith healer*

    *50% success rate on healing
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    I don't know if this is a thing but you could probably also take reverse roleblocker or something since that's what he does.
     
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    you can BS something about guru pathik taking the kingdom of the person he visited the night before if you get kingdom investigated
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    So Double D was water tribe. If they weren't Sokka, Gran Gran, or Katara, as far as major water tribe characters that only leaves Batu, Khota, Pakku, and Yue who wouldn't be scum
     
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    as mechanist i'm just going to claim JOAT since he's made a lot of inventions that really perfectly fits his flavor
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Mmm

    We're probably both gonna catch heat for that change. You were better off letting the tie happen.

    It's fine. I'll think of something
     
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    Tie is NL which is too -EV from town POV

    It's better to ML than to not get any new info

    I had intention to ride out my vote until EOD but nobody else was changing with 2 mins left so I just decided fuck it

    I'll just act frustrated that malus forced us to lynch him