Gossip Thread Gossip Chat 1: Dinner under the paintings NX


The happy expression of a popular hero encourages a question.

Chef: ¿Conoces la historia del Negro Matapacos?
(Do you know the story of Negro Matapacos?)

Comensal: Sí.
(Yes.)

Chef: Ah, bueno.
(Oh, ok.)

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Welcome to the Chef chat! This thread will be open for you to talk until the night ends.

Be nice and have fun!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I wonder who you are...

Let me guess. I bet this is Chugg, or else maybe Polter? I'm trying to think who else had me down as a top Town read today. Fran?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I suppose this could be Vere righting his wrong from Conspiracy 2 where he actively refused to invite me to his Gossip chat!!
 

rac

whatever
i was so happy when i got this role you know i had to invite you

can you explain what the fuck just happened at eod
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So what do you make of that EoD?

I'm kind of disappointed that Meatwad's role PM clearly told him what a Super Saint was but he didn't tell us that, and also pretended it was a Cop claim, but whatever.

Oreo's claim was hella sketchy too, I'm not giving him any points yet.

I'll be looking back on things over the night here. Did anything stick out to you at all?
 

rac

whatever
actually got frustrated and didnt even read through most of the day, my motivation sucks
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
i was so happy when i got this role you know i had to invite you

can you explain what the fuck just happened at eod
<3

It was a shitshow. Oreo made some weird vague claim, and while we were considering that, Meatwad claimed as a Cop then immediately walked it back into some weird sounding role that was hardly as important as a Cop, it looked really sketchy.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
It sucks because I would say my first instinct is to look for people who were fine with both and didn't really push one way or the other, but that includes me, and a lot of people, both of them were looking scummy.

I maybe want to take a closer look at Muffin, his train fell apart. Kawl gives me weird vibes sometimes, but he feels pretty Townie on a gut level, need more to go on there I think. The people who were voting Coolest are kind of suspect too. And LP didn't vote at all, which is sketchy for him, he'll usually always vote as Town if I remember right.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
how come no one went to geno at all or even mentioned my vote there?
i guess i should be used to people not really paying me any mind
Someone did mention Geno as well, I'll have to look back but I remember someone calling him out towards EoD.
wait what
Yeah, it was weird as fuck. He was like a Bomb Cop basically, he searches for someone and finds out if they have the role of Super Saint or not, which is a Bomb that only goes off on the person that hammers them. We can assume it's a Scum role now since it wouldn't make sense for a Town role to exist solely to out another Town role. We can likely just avoid it by not hammering.
 

rac

whatever
And LP didn't vote at all, which is sketchy for him, he'll usually always vote as Town if I remember right.
my head is still stuck in last game and i feel really badly about tunneling lp so i wasnt looking there at all honestly
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
my head is still stuck in last game and i feel really badly about tunneling lp so i wasnt looking there at all honestly
Yeah I know what you mean, I was turning a blind eye to Kopite kind of since I did feel bad about him getting voted out first last game, but D2 now we'll have to start looking at everyone.
 
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rac

whatever
Yeah I know what you mean, I was turning a blind eye to Kopite kind of since I did feel bad about him getting voted out first last game, but D2 now we'll have to start looking at everyone.
fuck, i really don't feel like backtracking right now

any posts you can bring up that are substantial?
the two pages of people switching/joking about avatars was draining
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
any posts you can bring up that are substantial?
the two pages of people switching/joking about avatars was draining
I would say if you're going to read EoD, start from the post where Oreo claims as a "Town PR". He was just sitting there making a ton of sketchy posts that we were starting to discuss, when all of a sudden Meatwad claims as a Cop and derailed everything. They were both fine targets after that, but Meatwad's claim was so sketchy I couldn't resist breaking the tie in that direction, and then it just solidified on him after that. The discussions around those posts are probably a place to start looking, since Scum would already know Meatwad was telling the truth at the least, possibly both if Oreo is Town too.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm going to play a little Animal Crossing for now, but then I'll probably do a full reread and get my thoughts down in here. I'll check in to respond to anything you want to discuss though or if you have other questions.
 

rac

whatever
yeah ok i dont know what the heck all that was
this is why i kinda just glaze over claiming theories and shit i guess, im just fucking terrible at it
 

rac

whatever
also yeah i think imma take a breather from my pc for awhile we got two days to look at shit and im just tired of my screen rn honestly
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh yeah, it's a weekend night phase, just realized that.

We can take our time for sure, no problem. I'll probably wait til tomorrow to dig in then in that case yeah.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Reading back on some things while I wait for my joycons to charge, I feel like I shouldn't have let Muffin off the hook when I did. He reads kind of scummy to me, we'll see how he looks tomorrow but he's going on the suspect list for sure. He just has a weird vibe to him, maybe I'll need to read back on one of his Town games to be sure, but I just get Scum vibes when reading his posts.

Like this one:
Muffin said:
Then I'm sure it won't faze you either if we vote you out?
Jumping on a post from Coolest, like yeah whatever at that Coolest post, who really cares. It just felt like an easy thing to jump on from him, made all the better by him eventually voting for Coolest which I thought was the sketchiest wagon of the day, and then moving his vote to Oreo at EoD during the claim nonsense. I also felt like he was kind of pocketing me when I was arguing with Geno a bit by sticking up for me.

Oof, and this morning he had a couple of different posts that feel really self conscious, like you can tell he's thinking ahead to how people will react to his posts.
Muffin said:
I dont like whats Coolest doing. And before its repeeated, no, I dont care what weird stuff he did last game as town, I wasnt there and cant properly judge based on it.
Muffin said:
Before you wonder why I didnt respond to you in my earlier post:
I have nothing to respond with. It's D1 and I'm not going to throw out random speculation to appear to have done something.
That last one, woof, I should have hounded him a bit more on that. "Throw out random speculation to appear to have done something" is some cool shade, should have asked who he was referring to with that in contrast to himself.

Other than Muffin, maybe one of Kawl and Geno? I'm worried that Kawl is a wolf in sheep's clothing, I like a lot of his posts and have agreed with some of his points, but I don't know what he's like as Scum so I'm kind of scared of being wrong on him.

Geno felt like he was hamming it up a bit when reacting to the claims of Oreo and Coolest at EoD tbh, like really trying to make sure one of them was mislunched, especially when he said that he thought they were Town v Town earlier in the day.

Then I don't know, possible on Fran, keep an eye on him regardless as the days go by. Nin/Blarg/Coolest is a rough trio to have in a game together.

Here's a full read list from me for now, this might change as we discuss things further though and I read into some players more closely, especially the ones in my Null zone.

Town:
Rac
Chugg
Polter
Vere

Lean Town:
Fran
Kawl

Null:
Nin
Blarg
Coolest
Stan
Aeleus
Kopite

Suspect List:
Muffin
Oreo
Geno
LP
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
However, when I look at the vote tool, that suspect list doesn't really track that much.

I'd say the real suspect list is:
Muffin
LP
Two of the Meatwad Voters.

I'll figure out which two tomorrow.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Geno can be on the suspect list too though really, I was just trying to imagine what a spread out vote for a Scum team would look like.
 

rac

whatever
this progression is just sticking out in my head
muffin voting coolest
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...o-con-mi-guitarra.178436/page-8#post-30464452

geno asking if anyone can make the case to not lunch cs
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...o-con-mi-guitarra.178436/page-8#post-30467223
then geno says they don't like muffin's vote
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...o-con-mi-guitarra.178436/page-9#post-30468261

i guess that just sticks out to me
i dont think they could be scum together
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, that's a good read, that along with how the votes fell at EoD definitely feels like they aren't Scum/Scum.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, I think this is Scum LP btw lol. If he's Town, whoops, not so sick of a read I guess, but I'm calling it now.

This post: https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...s-golpeo-con-mi-guitarra.178436/post-30467874
Lone_Prodigy said:
Not a fan of some of these sheep(dog) votes. 4 hours left and it's easy to park a vote on someone to prop them up as a candidate.

Stuff like Muffin being the 3rd vote on Coolest, nin's old vote on Blarg and Muffin, Kopite on Meatwad, even Chugg's vote on Blarg. I'm conflicted on Blarg: it's easy to vote there since he's never a D1 candidate, but on the other hand, why isn't he ever a D1 candidate?

Re: Meatwad, he hasn't come back since saying his vote would move. Dodging heat so another wagon could build?
All of these words, no conclusions, and no vote.

This post: https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...s-golpeo-con-mi-guitarra.178436/post-30473992
Lone_Prodigy said:
Light pressure and both oreo and Meatwad roll over and claim.

Both are kind of weak IMO which is a good cover for fake scum claims.
Said this when they were tied at 5-5. He's not taking a stance, lumping them both together by not distinguishing between the two, and again, he's not voting.

This is Scum LP, I swear to god lol.
 

rac

whatever
why does it feel like a lot of these players is gonna be a tossup
players like lp and coolest could go either way to me
do you know how scum coolest acts?
and even though i love him as a poster i always let other people deal with blarg

also i still dont have the motivation to go back and read right now, i think ill probably start that tonight
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
do you know how scum coolest acts?
I think I've only seen him as Scum in LB3. If I remember right, he was more reserved and was kind of playing dumb a lot. Town Coolest from the last game was also a bit reserved, but he wasn't playing dumb, he knew what was going on, he had the one stupid gambit where he lied about your friendly neighbor message but then he turned around and was pretty serious from then on even in his jokey style of posting.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
@Reki a question if you don't mind:

Am I still going to be able to read this thread after the night phase ends, or will I lose all access to it? The OP isn't clear on that.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Thanks for the clarification.

Well, @rac, hopefully you've had a chance to look things over. My suspect list stands as it is above, so consider my top Scum reads to be Muffin and LP.

I could see either of us dying tonight tbh, me if they want to make the game more quiet and you if they want to try avoiding a doctor or something. Neither of us were getting any heat yesterday, so Mafia would likely look at both of us as being hard to remove without a night kill.