Scum Thread Phantom Troupe

Franconp

Frank
Welcome to the scum chat!

The members are:

Salvapot:

SalvaPot, "I'll bet my life" (Modified Motivator/Modifier/Amplifier) You are aligned with Scum.

Your scum partners are Natiko, B-Dubs, Blargonaut and Kyanrute.

Komugi, The Gungi Player. "A sweet, inoffensive girl who lives for one thing and one thing only: Playing the game known as Gungi. By herself, she seems more like a nuisance than a useful member of society, but her strategic ability for the game, and only the game, makes her literally unbeatable and constantly evolving. Her story makes it clear than humanity is more than simple food, and that there is more types of strenght than just fighting prowress. Passion, inspiration and never giving up. She always bets her life." -

During the night If I use the command LET'S PLAY GUNGI!: Playername I enhance the strategic mind of my target, allowing them to have one of the next 1-shot perks APPLIED TO THEIR ROLES of their choice:

-Unblockable. (They can't be blocked when doing their role)
-Unkillable. (They can't be killed when doing their role)
-Untracable. (They can't be traced/investigated when doing their role)
-Unlynchable. (They can't be lynched when doing the day phase they activated their role)
-Undetectable. (They can't be detected during the day phase they activated their role, for example, if their day ability would reveal their identity, it won't.)


You can only send all of this perks once.

They can't use this perk the night it is given, but they can use it at any other moment when they use their role by seding the command STRATEGIZE: Role in a PM to the Game Runners.

Also, LET'S PLAY GUNGI!: Playername also doesn't distract the target in any way AND can be used on any player, regardless of alignment.

Finally, when I'm killed, I inspire feelings of humanity on the mafia team, giving them one extra kills if they have a killing role, that can be applied in day or night, depending on the role its applied to. If the extra kill is used during the day, they will reveal themselves as the monsters they are. To use the extra kill they'll just have to add the command DIE: Target
Natiko:

Natiko, Ascetic ITA Creator, Manipulator, and Master

Pew pew pew

You are aligned with Scum. Your scum partners are Salvapot, B-Dubs, Blargonaut and Kyanrute.

Once per game you may PM the gamerunner at night the command Suns Out, Guns Out: Player A, Player B. The next day phase, and just during the first 24hs of the day all living players will be granted an ITA shot with a 10% chance of succeeding with the exception of you, Player A, and Player B. Your ITA shot will have a 100% chance of succeeding, as will Player A’s. Player B’s shot will have a 0% chance of succeeding. Player A will be notified of this, Player B will not. You are immune to all ITA kill attempts. You are also ascetic and cannot be targeted by night actions other than kills.
B-Dubs:

B-Dubs, Role Pillager

You are aligned with Scum. Your scum partners are Salvapot, Natiko, Blargonaut and Kyanrute.

You take the power of the most recently killed players and can use them as one-shot abilities. These powers can be stored for later use, but only 2 powers can be held at any one time and must be decided at the start of the day.
Blargonaut:

Blargonaut, "The Flypaper Origami Artist"

You are aligned with [/highlight]Scum[/highlight]

Your scum partners are Salvapot, Natiko, B-Dubs and Kyanrute.

This Role mainly manipulates players' ability to unvote/move their votes during the Day:

Each Night, I pick a player as a target by PM'ing host the command: STICKY: player_name; during the Day,any players who vote against my target become UNABLE to unvote/move their vote off that player for the rest of the Day.

Any affected player who tries to unvote/move their vote, is publicly warned by the host in the game-thread with a mod-post, "PLAYER_NAME's vote on target_name was locked and can't be moved or removed today."

However, if I vote against my STICKY'd player that Day, I remove the STICKY on that player; so anybody who was stuck/locked on that player, can now unvote/vote normally for the rest of the Day.

During the Day, if I self-vote against myself, I become immune to all Daytime Powers for the rest of that Day; however, I am unable to unvote from myself / vote against anybody else for the rest of that Day. Although, any Daytime Powers that were used on me before I self-voted, are not nullified/dispelled when I self-vote (they will still remain in effect on me). But I will become immune to any further Daytime Powers that Day. Also: after any Day that I've self-voted, I lose the ability to use my STICKY Power that Night.[/highlight]
Kyanrute:

Kyanrute, Giftmaker.

Flavour: chocolate.

You are aligned with Scum. Your scum partners are Salvapot, Natiko, B-Dubs and Blargonaut.

During each night, you may gift a bomb to a player of your choosing with the command GIFT: [PLAYER].

Once during the game, during day, you may post the public command BOOM :D in the game thread to explode all the bombs that have been gifted so far. A bomb that explodes kills the player holding it.

Killing even a single player with an exploding bomb will trigger your special bomb.

You passively possess a special bomb. This bomb cannot be removed from your possession. This bomb is disarmed only by your death. This bomb explodes only after at least a single player is killed when the command BOOM :D is used. When this bomb explodes, YOU DIE.

Gifted bombs lay dormant until triggered by the command BOOM :D. Gifted bombs stick to their targets and cannot be moved between players. The bombs you gift can be disarmed if the player holding a bomb targets you with a night action. Gifted bombs can only be blown up by the command BOOM :D.

Players who receive the gift of a bomb will receive a message that they received something during the night. The exact nature of this something is left unsaid. Players who receive the gift of a bomb will not be notified who or what gave them this something. Players can only hold a single bomb and nothing will happen if any instance of this role attempts to gift a bomb to a player who already has one. This rule makes no difference between a gifted bomb and the special bomb - a bomb is a bomb.

You may not use your night command and the factional kill during the same night even if you are the last member of your faction alive.
 
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Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
This scum team lol We have some pretty crazy powers. Ironically my original submission was close to B-Dubs and had to be replaced, then my second I almost put something similar to kyaa before opting to go with what I did.
 
Originally I had it set to being able to store 3 at a time, but I guess being able to fire off more than two abilities in a single day was seen as too much.

Blarg, however, has a truly evil power.
 
I decided to go full support and try to hide myself between the town players. If you want any specific perk, let me know to hit you up first.

Honestly there are some really creative roles here, blarg in particular is going to make for some hilarious shenanigans and paranoia.
 
I also think that the town team must have tons of ludicrous powers to counteract ours, for example I can already tell any protective or investigative role is going to be extremely creative and will backfire on us, hard.

For example, with @Natiko's ability, I can totally see a role that can prevent getting killed during the day, or taking him down with them. So with the support I can give him he can choose what perk he wants so his kill will go without any issue.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
My ability is a gamble given I’m handing (very weak) guns to all of town, but I figure it on average will get us maybe three extra kills and it’s an ability I feel I can reasonably claim is a town one. That’s another positive benefit to a lot of these abilities is they can be claimed as town ones (just maybe not with the full details revealed). I fully expect town to have some absolutely crazy stuff though especially with those that got the special modifier or whatever.
 
My ability is a gamble given I’m handing (very weak) guns to all of town, but I figure it on average will get us maybe three extra kills and it’s an ability I feel I can reasonably claim is a town one. That’s another positive benefit to a lot of these abilities is they can be claimed as town ones (just maybe not with the full details revealed). I fully expect town to have some absolutely crazy stuff though especially with those that got the special modifier or whatever.
Yup, and also what are the odds town won't hit other town. The odds also makes it so it would make sense you don't die when attacked, so people are going to be less likely to call you out on this.

Also, if I read it correctly, Player A can also be a scum teammate? That is pretty strong.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
Yup, and also what are the odds town won't hit other town. The odds also makes it so it would make sense you don't die when attacked, so people are going to be less likely to call you out on this.

Also, if I read it correctly, Player A can also be a scum teammate? That is pretty strong.
Yep, no limitation on who I boost. I can use my ability fairly early and hopefully we can keep as much heat off kyaa a season possible. If so we should at least have a shot no matter how crazy the town powers are.
 
Yep, no limitation on who I boost. I can use my ability fairly early and hopefully we can keep as much heat off kyaa a season possible. If so we should at least have a shot no matter how crazy the town powers are.
My ability can boost yours (And Kyaa) so you can use it without getting detected. The way "Undetectable" is worded is so you can use that ability without getting revealed, this should work for when Kyaa bombs everyone else or for if you decide to do your 100% sure kill.

Or you can choose unblockable in case the target has some kind of defense.
 
If Kyaa goes down I can just ditto their power and we'll go from there.

With any luck we'll get a strong kill or a cop killed on D1 and we can use that power to cause some trouble.
 
Obviously all of you don't get fake claims. If you need one you can create whatever you want.
If I come up with fake claims for the rest of the team, would it be ok to check them up with you?

I was thinking B-Dubs can be Ikalgo



Living Dead Dolls
kalgo is capable of inhabiting and taking control of a corpse, manipulating its movements, and utilizing its voice[20] and Nen abilities.[19] When he does so, he seems to reside in the head of the host,[2] but can apparently leave its body from other points.[20] Although Ikalgo can manipulate a corpse, he is powerless to stop its decomposition.[19]

And believe it or not, Ikalgo is a bad-guy-turned-good-guy in the series, so it would make a great claim.


Blargonaut is Kalluto Zoldyck, who could be argued is a spider but by the point of Greed Island is actually neutral, so that one works by itself. If he had to come up with a better fake roleclaim, I'll suggest (lol) Hisoka due to bungee gum, that has both the properties of rubber and gum, so it would justify his role, his tricky personality, and he can play the shit out of that and still come up like a good guy.

Kyanrute is the Bomber, as in Genthru, and that is cool and all, but would make a terrible role-claim. But since he can gift things there are a few options we can go for here.

He could be Knuckle, whose ability let's his opponents "borrow" part of his aura when Knuckle punches them. If they don't return that borrowed aura after a while, they will lose their own ability. But if they give it back, they'll be safe. This will help justify them losing the bomb when they attack @Kyanrute back.

Natiko was the hardest one, but let's give it a crack. There really are no "good" characters that I can think of that uses guns, so there really is no way we can justify this one unless we change the flavor of the guns. And even then I'm still having a hard time finding a flavor for it. Oh well.
 
Ok, I got it, I know what Natiko can fake claim as: Nasubi Hui Guo Rou


He is the ruler of the Kakin empire and in the manga he makes his sons put their hand on a sacred urn, giving them powers, so they can kill each other and earn their spot as the next emperor.

As for this game's flavor, we can say he gives everyone power to show him what they got and scout people to take in his expedition to the Dark Continent.


Since technically he is not "evil" per se, you can easily justify this flavour as a town role.
 

Blargonaut

#Team800Feet
:o

Natiko, heads-up me when you're gonna activate The Shooting because that definitely needs to be a Daytime invulnerability self-vote Day for me, probably

[...] Blargonaut is Kalluto Zoldyck, who could be argued is a spider but by the point of Greed Island is actually neutral, so that one works by itself. If he had to come up with a better fake roleclaim, I'll suggest (lol) Hisoka due to bungee gum, that has both the properties of rubber and gum, so it would justify his role, his tricky personality, and he can play the shit out of that and still come up like a good guy. [...]
stew's going
 

Blargonaut

#Team800Feet
Query: let's say Kyan gifts me a bomb at Night, right?

So if I activate my Daytime invulnerability, then Kyan chooses to detonate the bomb(s) with his Daytime BOOM command in the game-thread; do I survive, because that counts as having used a Daytime-type Power against me (which I'd be invulnerable to while self-voting)?
 

Franconp

Frank
additional kills as in we do get to enjoy the factional kill, even when nobody bothered to write that in, rite? right?

narffff - @Franconp give faction murder. give.
All of you can do the factional kill. Either you use your power or do the kill. You can't do 2 commands the same night.

Query: let's say Kyan gifts me a bomb at Night, right?

So if I activate my Daytime invulnerability, then Kyan chooses to detonate the bomb(s) with his Daytime BOOM command in the game-thread; do I survive, because that counts as having used a Daytime-type Power against me (which I'd be invulnerable to while self-voting)?
You are protected.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
I don’t think people are being given flavor or names my Fran, so I don’t think we have to worry too much about that side of things.

If Kyaa goes down I can just ditto their power and we'll go from there.

With any luck we'll get a strong kill or a cop killed on D1 and we can use that power to cause some trouble.
Oh that’s a really good point!

:o

Natiko, heads-up me when you're gonna activate The Shooting because that definitely needs to be a Daytime invulnerability self-vote Day for me, probably


stew's going
I will definitely make sure we’re all in agreement for when I send it.
 
Wait, just checking, but if Kyaa dies will the bombs disappear or will they remain? So if they die after handing out like 3, can I just explode those three with my copy power or does it reset?
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
My interpretation is that the bombs remain even after my death, it just is that only my command can blow them up. No Kyaaa, no command, no murderdeath.

unless someone was to copy kyaaa's command!
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
Weak. So back to protect kyaa we are. I’m just going to do everything I can to not bus since I feel like it’s what I usually do as scum. I’m going to be laid back and just try and seem like my town self.
 
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So, usually Kyaa would die when activating his special bomb, but if used with my unkillable boost, would he be able to survive?
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
KYAAA: BOOM :D

NARF: STAND BY.

a billion people die. kyaaa lives.

NARF: RESUME.

KYAAA: it wasn't me :DDDDD

I don't think it matters really if my bomb blows up or not, in most cases. Though if it is possible to circumvent my death with Salva-shot, that could be a +1 for a majority in an opportune moment. Would need to be timed absolutely correctly though, since I don't survive a single lynch if town has more than a minute to think things through.
 
No. Because he must use his command in the main thread and yours can't be used there. Same with ITAs.
But I inteded my boosts to work by "Strategize: Role" in a PM to you, as said in my role, so the boost would be applied before using the role in the thread.
 
I agree with the ITA's, but Natiko should still be able to activate, say, his unblockable boost when using the command in the night when activating his role, making his and only his shot unblockable.
 

Franconp

Frank
But I inteded my boosts to work by "Strategize: Role" in a PM to you, as said in my role, so the boost would be applied before using the role in the thread.
That's what you wanted but it's not what you get. Allowing using them during the day phase with all the roles we have could be broken. I have to balance the game in some way, so the perks only work on night abilities.

I agree with the ITA's, but Natiko should still be able to activate, say, his unblockable boost when using the command in the night when activating his role, making his and only his shot unblockable.
No.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
That's what you wanted but it's not what you get. Allowing using them during the day phase with all the roles we have could be broken. I have to balance the game in some way, so the perks only work on night abilities.



No.
How..does that work with the last two that explicitly talk about day abilities..? lol
 
How..does that work with the last two that explicitly talk about day abilities..? lol
Yeah, I was thinking this. If we had to rebalance them for night use only, then maybe using it on our faction kill will make the shooter unable to be lynched during the day, or unable to be detected (as in, inspected) by a day-cop during the day.
 

Franconp

Frank
How..does that work with the last two that explicitly talk about day abilities..? lol
Unlynchable is for the next day phase. But if you are getting lynched you can't use a day ability to prevent the lynch at the last second.

Undetectable, sure it can be used during day phases. In that case the player will send the command by PM.

But all the others are really OP with all the roles that you have.
 
Unlynchable is for the next day phase. But if you are getting lynched you can't use a day ability to prevent the lynch at the last second.

Undetectable, sure it can be used during day phases. In that case the player will send the command by PM.

But all the others are really OP with all the roles that you have.
Sounds good boss.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
blargs min-max image made me think about how I usually play a glass cannon in rpgs where you can design your builds

then I realized I made myself into a glass cannon here too

most curious indeed
 

Blargonaut

#Team800Feet
Game Master Fran, you're needed in the main game-thread I flagrantly threw a rule at your face and I need to be punished, sorry
 
hey, I am the idiot who wrote in all his restrictions, barring one

there is no sadness in BOOM :D - it'll be fun, assuming I get to pull it off
What makes your role really strong is that they can't tell what it is. I guess exploding with friends makes it worth it.

If I die first, you could combo my DIE command with your boom, that would be fun.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
Everyone is tiptoeing on eggshells since we know everyone probably has something fun.
 
Sorian is baiting hard to be targeted. I kinda want to give him one of my shots later in the game if he survives.

First night I wanted to target you Natiko, but since we can't use the boost on your role its not worth.

I'm thinking I'll boost you B-dubs first, so you can take advante of any power that might flip as soon as its possible.
 
Sorian is baiting hard to be targeted. I kinda want to give him one of my shots later in the game if he survives.

First night I wanted to target you Natiko, but since we can't use the boost on your role its not worth.

I'm thinking I'll boost you B-dubs first, so you can take advante of any power that might flip as soon as its possible.
Ideally we'd find a night kill or cop role today so I can use it during the night phase and we could either get another power or get a better idea of who we should go after next.

Not gonna lie, Sorian makes me feel like he'll kill whoever votes for him. Like a suicide bomber, or maybe he can see the alignment of those who vote for him, and I'd like to know for sure what he can do first before we do anything.
 
That said, if we can get a strong power killed today that would be ideal. Regardless of what it is we'd likely get some use out of it.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
I’m personally just fond of going for stronger players early. It’s very pragmatic and particularly not fun for town.
 
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That makes sense and I agree, I'm just wary of what powers could be out there given the game type. Who you all think we should be taking a run at?
 
That makes sense and I agree, I'm just wary of what powers could be out there given the game type. Who you all think we should be taking a run at?
I honestly think that we should just, like the spider, all do our own thing and not vote as a team, just go all around and try to get our very own reads and targets by ourselves.

Personally I already got beefs with Sawneeks, The bear, Blarg (lol) and turmoil.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
That makes sense and I agree, I'm just wary of what powers could be out there given the game type. Who you all think we should be taking a run at?
I’m inclined to say to go with the flow for now. No need to coordinate when there isn’t even much to go off. As for being wary of specific powers, odds are a majority of people we could hit we’ll end up considering a success (except those that will inevitably have picked something that blows up in our face but that’s bound to happen).
 
I’m inclined to say to go with the flow for now. No need to coordinate when there isn’t even much to go off. As for being wary of specific powers, odds are a majority of people we could hit we’ll end up considering a success (except those that will inevitably have picked something that blows up in our face but that’s bound to happen).
I'm harrasing you now, feel free to go hard on me, I don't mind, I'll do the same to you.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
I'm harrasing you now, feel free to go hard on me, I don't mind, I'll do the same to you.
I don’t have anything hard to go on. Just playing it casual but you can push back as much as you want
 
I think is funny how people try to figure me out, when my "brand" is mostly making people angry and having them lynch me.
 
When Natiko uses his gun power, I'm going to quote this post and say to Sawneeks "Was that a breadcrum?" And see how she reacts.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
I also got a laugh out of those posts. Had to bite my tongue to not soft my role there since I know it’s not my MO.
I wonder how the 10% is calculated...
Each individual shot should be rolled at that success rate.
 
I also got a laugh out of those posts. Had to bite my tongue to not soft my role there since I know it’s not my MO.

Each individual shot should be rolled at that success rate.
@Franconp gets 10 guinea pigs and makes them race, if the one with the number 7 wins, your shot goes through.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
help it is only 8 hours into the game and some weird man is already waving at me to get in his long car-vehicle that is commonly used to transport tens of people on the road from place A to B on schedule

heeeeelp
 
Well, the work is done, Dr. Monkey is just tired of me now, all according to keikaku.

Can't get called scum if you act like scum.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
Just keep doing what you're doing Salva. It's getting you a lot of town reads.
 
Just keep doing what you're doing Salva. It's getting you a lot of town reads.
That is not a good thing, whenever I get townread it means they actually are ignoring me or saving me for later. And SalvaPot doesn't like getting ignored, so I'll have to do either something stupid or something drastic.
 
Unrelated, but I was thinking that since my support abilities don't really help any of you right now (Thanks Fran), I'm gonna use my first shot in Sawneeks to pocket her and make a claim on Day 2, since I am fairly sure I'm getting inspected, and I want to claim miller, that it was my idea because my ability is too broken as support.
 
To further explain the Sawneeks pocket, when I claim people are going to ask for who I targeted, and of course it would be her. If I die later, she will be the first suspect because of course I would use my first shot on a scum mate.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
The whole goal as mafia is to be saved for later lol I also don’t think you should claim miller, just feels unnecessary. I doubt you’ll be one of the first to be investigated.
 
Odds are I'll be first, given there's a few people already scum reading me (which is totally normal as I always get scum read on D1). I might be able to get away with just claiming my role, saying it's way stronger than it is, and that the condition for it being so strong is that I show up as scum when investigated.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
You guys have got to stop wanting to put yourself as roles that will scan as scum. If there are cops let them actually pick you out and claim. If anyone is an investigative role it’s probably something that a godfather status or miller claim won’t even protect against. If I was a town player in this game building an investigate role I would say I want my results to return their entire role PM. Worrying about trying to protect against a scan is just not worth it, especially in this game.