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Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
I missed day end because I was driving for the past three hours. I see it ended in a three way tie...

I started this room, it’s part of my Role, I’ll explain once I see who is in here
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
We should have one more person in the room...

you were invited dr. Monkey/heymonkey.

I invited two people into this chat,
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
I invited you two last night as you two were my top town.

Im going to Give the other player a little bit to get in here.

If someone else shows Up I think that will be crazy.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Are they still your top town? Am I?

I would guess this is more of a town-aligned role then, possibly (unless it's designed to pocket), which makes me glad I soft-pushed to hold off on you. I know your weekends are busy.
Extremely glad you decided to hold off on me for the night.

you are still top town, with your ITA role. I can’t think of a reason why that wouldn’t be town.
 

Natiko

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I’m still pretty busy so you’ll have to excuse me being sporadic for a bit, haven’t even had time to dig into what just happened
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
If the other person who I invited shows up, then yes they are among my top town as well.

I’m super nervous about switchers/claiming too much before we both see who is in here.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
So I chose to try for both.
Every night I have a different ability I can do, of increasing power.

so last night I could create a chat, but tonight I couldn’t do anything.

tomorrow I watch myself (can see anyone who comes to visit me) as well as motion detect another person.

the fourth day or fifth day I have options though. I can either do the fourth day activity or the fifth day activity
 
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Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
As you both can see i thought it was absolutely hilarious that both the ITA people were invited to this chat.
 

heymonkey

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Okay, that's pretty cool. Very creative. And does not seem scummy at all.

So I don't want to say what it is, but y'all can help me decide something. I have a modifier. It is a VERY GOOD modifier, so good that I was not allowed to get a second one (I tried lol). But if I use my ITA game command, I lose it.

I fear if I don't use my game command people will doubt me but at this point my modifier will be better and skipping an ITA day is better, too. Especially with no death today (ughhhh).
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Do you think scum will try to take you out?

if so they I’m always a “use it before you lose it” fellow.

if not I say wait.


My night four is a full investigation. My night five is a mod post where I am confirmed town at the start of the next day.

so I’m glad the role stealer already did it.
 

Natiko

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As you both can see i thought it was absolutely hilarious that both the ITA people were invited to this chat.
Oh wow, that you picked us in advance is hilarious.

I agree that your role sounds pretty solidly Town which fits with where I was leaning on you anyways at this point.

Okay, that's pretty cool. Very creative. And does not seem scummy at all.

So I don't want to say what it is, but y'all can help me decide something. I have a modifier. It is a VERY GOOD modifier, so good that I was not allowed to get a second one (I tried lol). But if I use my ITA game command, I lose it.

I fear if I don't use my game command people will doubt me but at this point my modifier will be better and skipping an ITA day is better, too. Especially with no death today (ughhhh).
I mean is there any limit on how long you can hold the ITA? If scum are worried about the ITA phase they’re going to go for you tonight presumably and you’d be denied the phase regardless at that point. If you think holding it is best I would trust your judgement.
 

Natiko

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Man, I should just tell y'all, I guess. Nat, if you're lying to me, I CAN FIND YOU AND ALSO YOU GET NO CAKE.

I'm a paranoid gamerunner. If I'm killed before I run my game, I kill my killer. So I kinda hope scum does go for me.
Don’t be mean to me D:

That’s actually pretty great for us and probably is better than the ITA, at least for now. I don’t know if it was the ITAs or it being a weekend phase but our voting data ended up being really suppressed in comparison until the last ten minutes.

We need to talk about:
Muffin
Sneeks
malus

The donna/A situation
Blarg

honestly everyone except maybe Salva and Flush.
Yeah, later tonight I’m going to dig into everything again. Votes were SO QUIET and then it was a flurry.
 
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Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
I really think malus might be scum coasting. Because his votes/reads on me seem cheap. I mean if you are the low poster, why only really develop a read on the other low poster?

donna & A? Anyone remember Star Wars mafia on the old site (season 2)? In it we had a neutral bounty hunter and a “target”. And the only way for the bounty hunter to win was to “protect” their target until the end. Sounded great, except their target was scum, so it ended up with the rare Neutral + scum win. That’s the vibe I get from their dynamic.
 

heymonkey

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I really think malus might be scum coasting. Because his votes/reads on me seem cheap. I mean if you are the low poster, why only really develop a read on the other low poster?

donna & A? Anyone remember Star Wars mafia on the old site (season 2)? In it we had a neutral bounty hunter and a “target”. And the only way for the bounty hunter to win was to “protect” their target until the end. Sounded great, except their target was scum, so it ended up with the rare Neutral + scum win. That’s the vibe I get from their dynamic.
I have big suspicions on malus. I posted all of them, really. But I feel like there's something there I'm not sure about. I never played SW tho. That was before my time and I haven't even read it. But interesting, I'll go look at the game sheet.

I am more wary of Donna than of A, honestly. Dragging info out of Donna seems like a trial. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, maybe A just wanted to keep looking super nice and forthcoming.

If someone did copy Sorian, I really hope they check there or Muffin.
 

Natiko

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Yeah, I really don’t know what to make of Muffin. His emotion felt genuine, but that’s about the only thing I can honestly say doesn’t make me scum read him.
 

Natiko

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The vote tool was borked and it was chaos. It was definitely a shitshow.

Nat, I think we should be pretty forthcoming with Zipped. I think I trust him.
Yeah, I don’t really have any qualms with having him in my town core at this point.

I have big suspicions on malus. I posted all of them, really. But I feel like there's something there I'm not sure about. I never played SW tho. That was before my time and I haven't even read it. But interesting, I'll go look at the game sheet.

I am more wary of Donna than of A, honestly. Dragging info out of Donna seems like a trial. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, maybe A just wanted to keep looking super nice and forthcoming.

If someone did copy Sorian, I really hope they check there or Muffin.
I personally would lean towards A being the more trustworthy just because the negative stipulation of whatever is going on there sounds like it’ll apply to A and not Donna.
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, I don’t really have any qualms with having him in my town core at this point.
Okay, good, because I want a safe place to talk about that other chat.

We were also both (lol this is hilarious) invited to a chat by Dubs, who says he copied Geno's ability and invited us but thought it would happen during the day it so we could coordinate ITAs. I'm trying to get more info from him on when all this happened. He's also talking about copying for MORE ITAs. If we have someone we can talk about it with outside maybe we can figure out if Dubs is okay or not.

But if Zipped is town and IF Dubs is town, scum is....

?? Certainly at least one of the people no one's looking at right now.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Copying MORE ITAs? That’s dangerous.

copy roles in general make me think scum, especially if dubs hasn’t told you the drawbacks yet.

I would find out those drawbacks. My guess is that dubs can copy one role a day, but not permanently, and each day must be different.

which is rough for my role. If someone steals my role night 5... that’s a Mod post that messed up town’s game right over.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Between muffin and sawneeks. Muffin came right out with the gossip, and then was the first to add “geno said if I die then one of you is scum”.

if one of them is scum and one isn’t, then as I said in the game “smelt it and dealt it”. Muffin tried to get ahead of the accusation first by posting about it.


There is the possibility that BOTH were scum but that’s insane for a first night gossip invite.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Donna is more likely scum if Donna and A are not the same alignment. Director just sounds like it could be the role as is from the wiki... but it could easily have been renamed.

i deliberately named my role different. It’s only If you get the whole role that you see something.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Also why did B-dubs not vote? I’m already going to have to explain a bunch about what I was doing today,

but BOTH of us have some ‘splainin’ to do (as Ricky would often ask Lucy).
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
I was in a car during day end. But I should have posted more during the morning before I packed up the kids and left my parents house. I should have but I didn’t.

poor time management, let’s call it that. First time my family saw my parents in months because of quarantine. IRL stuff. We just wanted to tell them that my wife is pregnant and we are having another baby.
 

heymonkey

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Copying MORE ITAs? That’s dangerous.

copy roles in general make me think scum, especially if dubs hasn’t told you the drawbacks yet.

I would find out those drawbacks. My guess is that dubs can copy one role a day, but not permanently, and each day must be different.

which is rough for my role. If someone steals my role night 5... that’s a Mod post that messed up town’s game right over.
He says he can only copy them as a one shot, and I guess it's from dead people. Apparently he copied Geno immediately at day start and then invited us. I know he was active at day start. I want to go look at how he reacted.
 

heymonkey

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Between muffin and sawneeks. Muffin came right out with the gossip, and then was the first to add “geno said if I die then one of you is scum”.

if one of them is scum and one isn’t, then as I said in the game “smelt it and dealt it”. Muffin tried to get ahead of the accusation first by posting about it.


There is the possibility that BOTH were scum but that’s insane for a first night gossip invite.
There's no way they are both scum. They've both been weird but Sneeks has many more town glimmers than Muffin, but I don't think they faked their fight.

Donna is more likely scum if Donna and A are not the same alignment. Director just sounds like it could be the role as is from the wiki... but it could easily have been renamed.

i deliberately named my role different. It’s only If you get the whole role that you see something.
I also gave mine a different name.
 

Natiko

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So Monkey, I just asked a clarification to Dubs and I’m curious to see what he says. If it went down how he says, it means he selected the chat role PRIOR to thinking he could use it to allow us to coordinate. That would mean he believed a role that allows him to talk to two people would be more beneficial than a role that allows him to scan two people. That..seems unlikely from B-Dubs. Maybe a player like you or Sorian that can read players really well, but otherwise? Seems like a bit of a stretch. We now know Sorian’s role got stolen but clearly he didn’t know that at day start or he would’ve pointed it out. It seems like he had no interest in a cop shot.
 

heymonkey

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So Monkey, I just asked a clarification to Dubs and I’m curious to see what he says. If it went down how he says, it means he selected the chat role PRIOR to thinking he could use it to allow us to coordinate. That would mean he believed a role that allows him to talk to two people would be more beneficial than a role that allows him to scan two people. That..seems unlikely from B-Dubs. Maybe a player like you or Sorian that can read players really well, but otherwise? Seems like a bit of a stretch. We now know Sorian’s role got stolen but clearly he didn’t know that at day start or he would’ve pointed it out. It seems like he had no interest in a cop shot.
No, that was a really good post to him and I kinda followed up. I do NOT get why he wouldn't take the cop shot and we didn't reveal until much later. (well, a while later lol)
 

Natiko

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Yeah, I’m not coming straight out with it. It’s certainly eyebrow raising though.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
Hey no problem, I figured you two could use a place to discuss yesterday. That was before all this ITA business.
 

heymonkey

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Okay, I've got some stuff to do but I want to go back over malus with a fine-toothed comb, especially with regard to Dubs. I want to look back harder at those ITA shots, too.

Zipped if you turn out to be scum I'm gonna laugh so hard, this game is wild.

My action is at night, too, and I assume Nat's was. I wonder what would have happened if we'd used ours at the same time? Would it be a 20% shot? or just a dud? I'm glad we didn't.

I'll be back. Also. Should I try to bait the kill somehow? Since I'll take someone with me?
 

Natiko

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dubs+muffin scum lol
That answer lol YIKES

Sorry that you have to see us just making comments Zipped. Basically B-Dubs claimed he though the chat was more useful than a cop check, and gave a horribly wishy washy response about why Saw looked worse than Muffin even though he couldn’t really say why.
 

Natiko

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Okay, I've got some stuff to do but I want to go back over malus with a fine-toothed comb, especially with regard to Dubs. I want to look back harder at those ITA shots, too.

Zipped if you turn out to be scum I'm gonna laugh so hard, this game is wild.

My action is at night, too, and I assume Nat's was. I wonder what would have happened if we'd used ours at the same time? Would it be a 20% shot? or just a dud? I'm glad we didn't.

I'll be back. Also. Should I try to bait the kill somehow? Since I'll take someone with me?
Hmm, maybe. He definitely seems a little too interested in discussing what the plan is with the ITA. I wonder if his intention is to see who we suspect/when it will get used in order to determine if/when they should kill you.
 

Natiko

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Yeah, I don’t know if I’ll get to too much tonight but I plan on doing digging tomorrow before day start. I want to look at the day end vote breakdown, finish looking at the D1 votes, and look at the ITA shots.
 

heymonkey

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ONE SEC -

I think this is all malus has ever said about Dubs:
"B-Dubs reaction was a bit exaggerated in my opinion, but I'm not sure I want to put him into Scum lean territory for it yet."

He also answered one post by Dubs about you, Zipped. But that's it. And he voted Blarg rather than Dubs.

Scum malus + Muffin + Dubs + ???

Muffin wasn't there and Dubs didn't vote - so we didn't see a scramble to save anyone.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
And malus might be bitter because scum team was largely afk.

Do you think Dubs' ability steal killed Geno or did he really get it from the flip?
My thoughts? Scum had to kill someone, and the role looked good enough for scum to steal.

im still not sure why geno night one.
I can get behind malus + dubs scum team. Add in muffin that makes sense.


And then maybe one of A or Donna, with the other neutral? I mean if you can make your role WHY make a protector, or why make a director role.


It’s the biggest hook in my mouth (bone in my craw, name your idiom) why would Donna or A give themselves those roles...
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
And malus might be bitter because scum team was largely afk.

Do you think Dubs' ability steal killed Geno or did he really get it from the flip?
Malus might be happy too, I mean one more vote when you swapped would have meant lunch time plate of malus
 

Natiko

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My thoughts? Scum had to kill someone, and the role looked good enough for scum to steal.

im still not sure why geno night one.
I can get behind malus + dubs scum team. Add in muffin that makes sense.


And then maybe one of A or Donna, with the other neutral? I mean if you can make your role WHY make a protector, or why make a director role.


It’s the biggest hook in my mouth (bone in my craw, name your idiom) why would Donna or A give themselves those roles...
Donna voted Blarg as well, and generally has been peddling the same reads all game. Maybe Donna or someone on the scum team came up with it almost as a weird lynch bomb almost. Donna is scum, a townie is told she is town and that they must protect her or else. If Donna ever dies, she gets to take said townie with her. It would basically be like a false innocent child + bomb in one role. I could maybe buy something like that as the explanation. It has to be something scummy at this point.

I’ll do the vote breakdown first tomorrow to see if that tracks with Malus and B-Dubs potentially being w/w
 

Natiko

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Maybe we can push against each other some and see at day start if anyone else is suddenly spouting similar lines in case Dubs is feeding this to anyone. I’m also going to take the more hardline stance and see if maybe they’ll hit me with the NK since my role is spent.
 

Natiko

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Hey the good news is, if you do die we'll get some immediate verification of if we're on the right track lol
 

heymonkey

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Either we are going to get an academy award for this back and forth or Zipped is actually also scum and they are all getting a good laugh out of this.

:laughing:

I'm enjoying it no matter what! But now that everyone's settled at the house I'll do some digging.
 

Natiko

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Finished my look of the D2 votes. The TLDR of it is that most of the vote movement came from people that are more likely town than not (Me, Monkey, nin, Royal, Vere, Salva). Maybe we're wrong on one person in that group, but I doubt any more than that. Makes me think most of the vote shifting was town shuffling. Extrapolation from there is scum weren't moving votes because either it was a good vote for them or they weren't present/were frozen on votes. I'm guessing it's the latter. Also of note that malus was around, but only mentioned a willingness to move to Zipped - never made any move towards B-Dubs and in general vanished once that shift happened.
 

Natiko

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Either we are going to get an academy award for this back and forth or Zipped is actually also scum and they are all getting a good laugh out of this.

:laughing:

I'm enjoying it no matter what! But now that everyone's settled at the house I'll do some digging.
At this point I'm all in on trusting Zipped, and based on his claim if he's lying it'll likely be revealed in due time. The ULTIMATE plot twist would be if these are both chats created by scum and they're playing us like a fiddle lol
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, I really felt like the vote shuffling was town panic. It was palpable in the thread, but there's gonna be heat on it tomorrow, I think. So we need to figure out how to herd everyone - do we want to just spill everything that happened + vote analysis or take another approach?
 

Natiko

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Yeah, I really felt like the vote shuffling was town panic. It was palpable in the thread, but there's gonna be heat on it tomorrow, I think. So we need to figure out how to herd everyone - do we want to just spill everything that happened + vote analysis or take another approach?
I was debating that as well. I think we keep Zipped's role in this a secret unless he is forced to claim because somehow people decide the takeaway from D2 is to vote Zipped, which, while asinine isn't out of the equation for town sometimes lol It makes it a bit harder to explain our good cop, bad cop routine with B-Dubs but I'd rather try and preserve Zipped's role as a secret. I doubt he gets NKed soon and he could end up being an innocent child in late game if we play our cards right. I don't know that there's much use in preserving B-Dubs chat/role as a secret, inevitably the information will come out especially if we drill into B-Dubs today.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
I'm ok with keeping this chat as a secret once day 2 starts. IF you two want to at least. I Think that puts scum dubs in a rough position (that you two were able to talk "off chat" with Dubs) and for town dubs its A-OK as well.

nope definitely town, no worries on that here. How do you two want me to feel around with dubs tomorrow? I don't think the others will really lay in on me too much, what with a three way tie to try and pick apart.

Of course it depends on who dies tonight, as with every night action.
 

heymonkey

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I think with Dubs and you specifically, Z, you should explain why you didn't vote and then go after the others who didn't: Muffin and Dubs.

And then we will interrogate based on our chat with him and reveal that chat as needed. This chat never needs to come up. Really don't scum to NK you but we also don't want town to vote you out so I'll probably keep you in my low suspect pools as an outlier choice. Unless we can get everyone on board with the scum team we're betting on and roll with that and then there's no need. We'll have to just see how things go. But I think we are on a VERY good track.

The more I think about it, the more certain I am about Donna. What better protection than to link a townie to you? I almost want to use my ability just so we can all shoot at her because I don't think A dies if she's shot. I have an hour to decide.
 

Natiko

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The boon to using the ITA now is we can try and burn through our scum reads and react faster, odds are at least one person will hit. The downside might be the one that hits is one of the scum players shooting at town lol Sorry, I got sucked into meetings but I'll go grab the ITA list.
 

Natiko

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Post #2387

The Claim List DIY edition: I think that's everything (presented by Aeleus)

Verified Powers List:
-Sorian, Linked Cop: Checks 2 players each night to find if they share alignmen. Emitter?
-Turmoil, 2-shot Switcher: Manipulator?
-Geno, Lantern Master: Each day adds two players to a permanent gossip chat with geno, if a town player in the chat dies they enter a special dead chat with geno, targeted Muffin and Sawneeks D1. Transmuter?
-Stu, Insane Killer: Had 3 cop shots, 1 day vig shot (to be used by D3 and couldn't target a invest target) and an activatable BP vest, shot Sorian D1 and green checked Verelios N1. Conjurer.

-Kalor, Vote Hoarder: Planted a bomb on target who would die 24hrs into next day phase, Kalor would get a point for every vote on the target when they died and winned with 10 points. Specialist?

Claimed Powers List:
-Dr. Monkey, ITA creator: Can start an ITA mini game with a 10% hit chance at the beginning of the day, mini game lasts 24 hours. Emitter.
-Natiko, ITA Creator and Master: Can start an ITA mini game with a 10% hit chance at the beginning of the day, mini game lasts 24 hours. Boosts theirs and a targets hit chance to 100%. Ability verified D2, no-one hit with a random shot. Emitter.
-Sawneeks, ???: Learnt Royal was town at start of game, claims role was based on the Emissary. Transmuter.
-Royal, ???: Targeted Monkey and Kalor N1, power seems to come into affect after target dies.
-Malus, ???: Had a 1-shot BP vest claimed to have lost all power after losing it. BP verified by being shot D2.

Mysteries:
The Director: Donna was told they were the director at game start and Aeleus was told that Donna was the director, was town and that something bad would happen to them if Donna was lunched. Whoever caused this effect hasn't claimed so is likely an evil ability.
The vote locker: At some point in D2 Salva couldn't unvote Stu and Blarg couldn't unvote blarg, causing stu to die. Almost certainly a scum ability.
The post mortem vaniliser: Sorian's Will was altered to become vanilla at some point. Edit time indicated it happened during N1.

Case Closed:
The hijacked powers!: It was initially thought Monkeys power had been hijacked but it turned out that her's and Natiko's were just very similar. Sawneeks role also seems to share similarities to the director mystery but seems unrelated.

ITA results:
Dr. Monkey -> Kalor [Neutral]: Hit and killed!
Natiko -> Malus: Hit and survived...
Bear/Nin [Nin] -> Nin [Nin]: Miss
Stu [Town] -> Kalor [Neutral]: Miss
Donna [Town?] -> Blargonaut: Miss
Royal [Town?] -> Kalor [Neutral]: Miss
Blargonaut -> Donna [Town?]: Miss
SalvaPot -> Stu [Town]: Miss
Muffin -> Kalor [Neutral]: Miss
Verelios -> Blargonaut: Miss
malus -> Zipped: Miss
Zipped -> Muffin: Miss
Aeleus -> Zipped: Miss
Kyanrute -> Muffin: Miss
B-Dubs -> Zipped: Miss
Sneeks -> Malus: Miss
Kalor [Neutral] -> Zipped: Miss
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
lol... I just noticed that as well.

what does your paranoia do? I know it has a modifier on it from above,

I still think Malus would be a good target for ITA as well, since we already know Malus had a vest and now doesn't.
 

Natiko

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I wonder if order of operations would have the ITA go through if you died tonight? If not, presumably that means your retaliate would kick in still and simply no ITA would happen.
 

Zippedpinhead

I'm a wee bit mad at Weemad
And dubs is a wild card with that role copy ability.

I’m leaning toward losing it now, it is a terrible loss though.

is your chance 10% as well?
 
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