Extremely glad you decided to hold off on me for the night.Are they still your top town? Am I?
I would guess this is more of a town-aligned role then, possibly (unless it's designed to pocket), which makes me glad I soft-pushed to hold off on you. I know your weekends are busy.
Oh wow, that you picked us in advance is hilarious.As you both can see i thought it was absolutely hilarious that both the ITA people were invited to this chat.
I mean is there any limit on how long you can hold the ITA? If scum are worried about the ITA phase they’re going to go for you tonight presumably and you’d be denied the phase regardless at that point. If you think holding it is best I would trust your judgement.Okay, that's pretty cool. Very creative. And does not seem scummy at all.
So I don't want to say what it is, but y'all can help me decide something. I have a modifier. It is a VERY GOOD modifier, so good that I was not allowed to get a second one (I tried lol). But if I use my ITA game command, I lose it.
I fear if I don't use my game command people will doubt me but at this point my modifier will be better and skipping an ITA day is better, too. Especially with no death today (ughhhh).
Don’t be mean to me D:Man, I should just tell y'all, I guess. Nat, if you're lying to me, I CAN FIND YOU AND ALSO YOU GET NO CAKE.
I'm a paranoid gamerunner. If I'm killed before I run my game, I kill my killer. So I kinda hope scum does go for me.
Yeah, later tonight I’m going to dig into everything again. Votes were SO QUIET and then it was a flurry.We need to talk about:
Muffin
Sneeks
malus
The donna/A situation
Blarg
honestly everyone except maybe Salva and Flush.
I have big suspicions on malus. I posted all of them, really. But I feel like there's something there I'm not sure about. I never played SW tho. That was before my time and I haven't even read it. But interesting, I'll go look at the game sheet.I really think malus might be scum coasting. Because his votes/reads on me seem cheap. I mean if you are the low poster, why only really develop a read on the other low poster?
donna & A? Anyone remember Star Wars mafia on the old site (season 2)? In it we had a neutral bounty hunter and a “target”. And the only way for the bounty hunter to win was to “protect” their target until the end. Sounded great, except their target was scum, so it ended up with the rare Neutral + scum win. That’s the vibe I get from their dynamic.
EXACTLYYeah, I really don’t know what to make of Muffin. His emotion felt genuine, but that’s about the only thing I can honestly say doesn’t make me scum read him.
anyway, I say this because there are definitely other people I do NOT trust, you know?Nat, I think we should be pretty forthcoming with Zipped. I think I trust him.
Yeah, I don’t really have any qualms with having him in my town core at this point.The vote tool was borked and it was chaos. It was definitely a shitshow.
Nat, I think we should be pretty forthcoming with Zipped. I think I trust him.
I personally would lean towards A being the more trustworthy just because the negative stipulation of whatever is going on there sounds like it’ll apply to A and not Donna.I have big suspicions on malus. I posted all of them, really. But I feel like there's something there I'm not sure about. I never played SW tho. That was before my time and I haven't even read it. But interesting, I'll go look at the game sheet.
I am more wary of Donna than of A, honestly. Dragging info out of Donna seems like a trial. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, maybe A just wanted to keep looking super nice and forthcoming.
If someone did copy Sorian, I really hope they check there or Muffin.
Okay, good, because I want a safe place to talk about that other chat.Yeah, I don’t really have any qualms with having him in my town core at this point.
He says he can only copy them as a one shot, and I guess it's from dead people. Apparently he copied Geno immediately at day start and then invited us. I know he was active at day start. I want to go look at how he reacted.Copying MORE ITAs? That’s dangerous.
copy roles in general make me think scum, especially if dubs hasn’t told you the drawbacks yet.
I would find out those drawbacks. My guess is that dubs can copy one role a day, but not permanently, and each day must be different.
which is rough for my role. If someone steals my role night 5... that’s a Mod post that messed up town’s game right over.
There's no way they are both scum. They've both been weird but Sneeks has many more town glimmers than Muffin, but I don't think they faked their fight.Between muffin and sawneeks. Muffin came right out with the gossip, and then was the first to add “geno said if I die then one of you is scum”.
if one of them is scum and one isn’t, then as I said in the game “smelt it and dealt it”. Muffin tried to get ahead of the accusation first by posting about it.
There is the possibility that BOTH were scum but that’s insane for a first night gossip invite.
Donna is more likely scum if Donna and A are not the same alignment. Director just sounds like it could be the role as is from the wiki... but it could easily have been renamed.
i deliberately named my role different. It’s only If you get the whole role that you see something.
No, that was a really good post to him and I kinda followed up. I do NOT get why he wouldn't take the cop shot and we didn't reveal until much later. (well, a while later lol)So Monkey, I just asked a clarification to Dubs and I’m curious to see what he says. If it went down how he says, it means he selected the chat role PRIOR to thinking he could use it to allow us to coordinate. That would mean he believed a role that allows him to talk to two people would be more beneficial than a role that allows him to scan two people. That..seems unlikely from B-Dubs. Maybe a player like you or Sorian that can read players really well, but otherwise? Seems like a bit of a stretch. We now know Sorian’s role got stolen but clearly he didn’t know that at day start or he would’ve pointed it out. It seems like he had no interest in a cop shot.
Also a great point lolAlso if he's not posting much, why would a chat be better????? SO many questions
That answer lol YIKESdubs+muffin scum lol
Hmm, maybe. He definitely seems a little too interested in discussing what the plan is with the ITA. I wonder if his intention is to see who we suspect/when it will get used in order to determine if/when they should kill you.Okay, I've got some stuff to do but I want to go back over malus with a fine-toothed comb, especially with regard to Dubs. I want to look back harder at those ITA shots, too.
Zipped if you turn out to be scum I'm gonna laugh so hard, this game is wild.
My action is at night, too, and I assume Nat's was. I wonder what would have happened if we'd used ours at the same time? Would it be a 20% shot? or just a dud? I'm glad we didn't.
I'll be back. Also. Should I try to bait the kill somehow? Since I'll take someone with me?
My thoughts? Scum had to kill someone, and the role looked good enough for scum to steal.And malus might be bitter because scum team was largely afk.
Do you think Dubs' ability steal killed Geno or did he really get it from the flip?
Malus might be happy too, I mean one more vote when you swapped would have meant lunch time plate of malusAnd malus might be bitter because scum team was largely afk.
Do you think Dubs' ability steal killed Geno or did he really get it from the flip?
Donna voted Blarg as well, and generally has been peddling the same reads all game. Maybe Donna or someone on the scum team came up with it almost as a weird lynch bomb almost. Donna is scum, a townie is told she is town and that they must protect her or else. If Donna ever dies, she gets to take said townie with her. It would basically be like a false innocent child + bomb in one role. I could maybe buy something like that as the explanation. It has to be something scummy at this point.My thoughts? Scum had to kill someone, and the role looked good enough for scum to steal.
im still not sure why geno night one.
I can get behind malus + dubs scum team. Add in muffin that makes sense.
And then maybe one of A or Donna, with the other neutral? I mean if you can make your role WHY make a protector, or why make a director role.
It’s the biggest hook in my mouth (bone in my craw, name your idiom) why would Donna or A give themselves those roles...
Go for it, anything to muddy the waters at this pointI might fight with you too Nat.
At this point I'm all in on trusting Zipped, and based on his claim if he's lying it'll likely be revealed in due time. The ULTIMATE plot twist would be if these are both chats created by scum and they're playing us like a fiddle lolEither we are going to get an academy award for this back and forth or Zipped is actually also scum and they are all getting a good laugh out of this.
I'm enjoying it no matter what! But now that everyone's settled at the house I'll do some digging.
That's so good I wouldn't even be mad.At this point I'm all in on trusting Zipped, and based on his claim if he's lying it'll likely be revealed in due time. The ULTIMATE plot twist would be if these are both chats created by scum and they're playing us like a fiddle lol
I was debating that as well. I think we keep Zipped's role in this a secret unless he is forced to claim because somehow people decide the takeaway from D2 is to vote Zipped, which, while asinine isn't out of the equation for town sometimes lol It makes it a bit harder to explain our good cop, bad cop routine with B-Dubs but I'd rather try and preserve Zipped's role as a secret. I doubt he gets NKed soon and he could end up being an innocent child in late game if we play our cards right. I don't know that there's much use in preserving B-Dubs chat/role as a secret, inevitably the information will come out especially if we drill into B-Dubs today.Yeah, I really felt like the vote shuffling was town panic. It was palpable in the thread, but there's gonna be heat on it tomorrow, I think. So we need to figure out how to herd everyone - do we want to just spill everything that happened + vote analysis or take another approach?