Jailor Thread Thresh's Zone #2

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Natiko

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Holy shit we are linked at the fucking hip this game lol
 

heymonkey

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I will deliver a cake to you before I move to Michigan. <3 If it's safe, I might even get to hug you! Otherwise it's a through-the-window-wave.

Okay, I need to be writing so I'm curious if we will find out just what the fuck is up with this chat.
 

Natiko

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You are too kind. You don’t need to worry about all that! You’ll have plenty else to keep you busy than baking me a cake lol

I just checked Geno’s flip and his role is still there so this doesn’t appear to be the same thing as with Sorian’s role.
 

heymonkey

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this is because you secretly don't actually like cake, right? because you don't like anything?

I'm not saying anything of substance until we find out whatever. Though it would be hilarious if this triggered from before and Geno is not actually here and it's us chatting all night.
 

Natiko

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I like cake! Depending on the specifics at least.

Agreed 100%. Maybe it really will be nothing.
 
Sorry about all this, you guys were supposed to be in here during the day. I figured since you both had day kills it would be better to let you coordinate in a private chat, but apparently it didn't start until the night phase and won't last past tomorrow's day phase (?).

Anyway, this is dubs. Was stuck doing other things during the day's end yesterday. I swiped Geno's role, I have the ability to copy a power as a one-shot ability.

My plan *was* for you guys to coordinate your shots, and give you a bit more room to scum hunt without having to deal with any interference. That didn't work out too great, though Monkey still has one to use. I figure worst comes to worst, if you die tonight, I can copy it and use it the way you'd prefer it used.
 

Natiko

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Sorry about all this, you guys were supposed to be in here during the day. I figured since you both had day kills it would be better to let you coordinate in a private chat, but apparently it didn't start until the night phase and won't last past tomorrow's day phase (?).

Anyway, this is dubs. Was stuck doing other things during the day's end yesterday. I swiped Geno's role, I have the ability to copy a power as a one-shot ability.

My plan *was* for you guys to coordinate your shots, and give you a bit more room to scum hunt without having to deal with any interference. That didn't work out too great, though Monkey still has one to use. I figure worst comes to worst, if you die tonight, I can copy it and use it the way you'd prefer it used.
I’m guessing then that you aren’t taking responsibility for Sorian’s role change? What did you make of day end? You didn’t vote at all this phase if I’m correct.
 

heymonkey

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Okay, Dubs. I appreciate you being straightforward and I'm not surprised there are copy abilities in this game, much less multiple.

But I have questions. You picked us because of the ITAs? So you copied Geno last night without knowing what Geno's ability was? Just as a shot in the dark? And then invited us during the day?
 
I’m guessing then that you aren’t taking responsibility for Sorian’s role change? What did you make of day end? You didn’t vote at all this phase if I’m correct.
That wasn't me. In all honesty, I am still trying to catch up on the EOD, I was stuck handling real life stuff at the time. Kind of a miracle I made it through from what I can tell. Had a really rough couple of days to be honest. I'm hoping it lets up starting now.

From what I assume, whoever stole Sorian's ability has something similar to me and it got triggered around then or they just waited to see what other skills dropped before taking that one off the table.

In the morning I'm probably going to grab Stu's power and use his cop check the following night. Unless that power also gets scrubbed from the game by the morning. If either of you have a suggestion as to who to go for, I'd love to hear it.

Okay, Dubs. I appreciate you being straightforward and I'm not surprised there are copy abilities in this game, much less multiple.

But I have questions. You picked us because of the ITAs? So you copied Geno last night without knowing what Geno's ability was? Just as a shot in the dark? And then invited us during the day?
I can only grab skills at the start of the day. I grabbed this one because I thought it might be useful, then I saw the two of you getting day kills and figured maybe this skill might be useful in conjunction with that. So I invited you both to the chat thinking it would be immediate. Unfortunately, this is only available during this night phase. This has screwed over my plan somewhat. That said, I think we can all still get some use out of this. There's still your ITA on the table, so we can figure out what worked for the previous one and plan the second one to take advantage of what we now know.
 

Natiko

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Just clarifying - but the order of events was:

  • Day starts, ITAs announced
  • You select Geno’s role
  • We reveal the ITA info
  • You invite us to a chat
Correct?
 

heymonkey

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I assume you can also see the old chat with Muffin and Sneeks, Dubs. What do you think of that + their interactions in thread, how they revealed it, etc? Did you have access to that all day or did you just get it when night started?

If you'd known it was going to be a night chat, would you still have invited us? And don't get me wrong, us coordinating would have been nice and I wish that had worked, but why didn't you take Sorian's? Did you consider it? I'm just trying to get a better sense of you since you haven't been able to be too active.

I'm still salty about that day end but I dunno, maybe it was for the best. We did have two deaths this phase anyway but shame about Stu.
 
Just clarifying - but the order of events was:

  • Day starts, ITAs announced
  • You select Geno’s role
  • We reveal the ITA info
  • You invite us to a chat
Correct?
Yeah, that's how it played out.

I assume you can also see the old chat with Muffin and Sneeks, Dubs. What do you think of that + their interactions in thread, how they revealed it, etc? Did you have access to that all day or did you just get it when night started?

If you'd known it was going to be a night chat, would you still have invited us? And don't get me wrong, us coordinating would have been nice and I wish that had worked, but why didn't you take Sorian's? Did you consider it? I'm just trying to get a better sense of you since you haven't been able to be too active.

I'm still salty about that day end but I dunno, maybe it was for the best. We did have two deaths this phase anyway but shame about Stu.
I can see it now, but I couldn't see it before. I feel good about muffin coming clean, not as much about saw holding back. That said, I don't disagree with most of saw's reads in there.

In all honesty, I figured I could get more use out of this one given the situation. I still think there's some value in planning out the next ITA day.
 

heymonkey

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Oh, I figured I might not use it yet. N3. It really seemed to impact votes today
I can see it now, but I couldn't see it before. I feel good about muffin coming clean, not as much about saw holding back. That said, I don't disagree with most of saw's reads in there.
Yeah, I keep looking back and I just really think there was something odd about the way Sneeks talked around things without warning and then Muffin opened up and said more. I wish he'd come back in time to vote! Did you not get a chance, Dubs?

Oh, we should look back at who shot who today and see if we can use that to plan, too. I feel like I might just shoot malus though.
 
I honestly didn't have a chance to come back and vote. I sat down to read everything, then something came up and I couldn't play for that phase.

Also, I agree. We should get that list of who shot at who together and try and figure out who the targets would potentially be.

In addition, I'm looking back and goddamn it swung towards me pretty damn quick.
 
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Natiko

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There was a lot of dead air at the time, and honestly you hadn’t really done anything this game to make me think you were Town.

When ITA Part 2: Electric Boogaloo happens who do you think you’d most want to take out?
 

heymonkey

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Day ends get SO chaotic especially when a lot of people weren't voting. I feel better about you in this chat though, Dubs. I'm also curious who you'd shoot though. What about you, Nat? Everyone's almost got me paranoid about you. There were so many comments about you potentially being scum. >.> But I still really don't think you'd give me that shot if you were.
 

Natiko

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Day ends get SO chaotic especially when a lot of people weren't voting. I feel better about you in this chat though, Dubs. I'm also curious who you'd shoot though. What about you, Nat? Everyone's almost got me paranoid about you. There were so many comments about you potentially being scum. >.> But I still really don't think you'd give me that shot if you were.
Honestly? I’m still not convinced our acquaintance here isn’t scum. I’m actually really surprised that you are flipping so fast. What’s changing your mind?

For that matter, you actually were the person that forced the tie last second..
 

Natiko

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Dude, the vote tool was down, I had no idea. You're kidding me with that. And I made NO illusions about my indecision.
I’m not saying it’s like rock solid, put you in jail and throw away the key level shit. Just suddenly stood out a bit more now since you were into the B-Dubs vote then suddenly not, now you town read him. Dunno, just is a bit strange.

I get why people are paranoid about me, but I’ve done everything I can to be transparent. What all has you paranoid?
 

heymonkey

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Tinfoil-hat me wonders if Fran would have allowed same roles on same sides, but idk, I guess if there are copies too, it may not matter.

And I feel like people who'd invite us to chat are more likely town. Like - what would scum get out of that?
 

heymonkey

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Sigh, I'm sorry, Nat. You're right, I don't really have any reason to feel badly about you. People just got me paranoid because everyone keeps bringing it up.

We need to figure out what's going on with Sneeks and Aeleus/Donna. I want to trust A but something seems off. Not like usual. Ugh but I'm tired, so... in the morning.
 
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Natiko

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Yeah, I'm hoping to do some more digging before day starts today. I guess I forgive you, but I'm keeping an eye on you:eyes:
 
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Natiko

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@Thresh Any idea on who you would shoot if it was an ITA phase again, or for that matter who you suspect and will be looking into tomorrow?
 

Natiko

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You didn’t comment. Do YOU think scum would take a chat role and invite you or me, much less both?
I certainly can see why scum would pull you in as a claimed, but not activated, ITA role. Maybe that's why B-Dubs is so interested in talking about it. As for me? It could just be memeing, or perhaps they figure you'd be more likely to divulge info/thoughts with me present. I don't exactly see a reason they absolutely WOULDN'T be willing to pull us into a chat at least.
 

Natiko

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But what's the point? Why not take the switcher? The switcher can do a lot more for scum, therefore Dubs is more likely to be town.
I mean, sure, but the investigate from Sorian would have done a lot more for town as well which leans towards scum.
 

Natiko

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Personally I'd put it more like:

B-Dubs (sorry lol)
Malus
Zipped
Sawneeks
Aeleus
 

Natiko

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You don't think anything is up with A that you want to solve???? seriously?
I'm not saying that, just would probably leave it for last due to the nebulous "bad things" threat hanging over A and donna.
 
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