HYPE CHAT 3

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Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Welcome to your HYPE CHAT!!!

Please don't copy/paste anything from this thread into the game thread.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I'm fairly certain you're town, rac, and even if I can't be totally sure, I think this is worth sharing with someone I'm townreading, though, in case I end up dead the info can still be usable somehow.

I'm Sophie, a Dog Investigator. I can sniff a player each night and it will tell me whether the player is a dog or not; the role PM specifically says "like you", so I was pretty sure at the start of the game that was code for town PR. My frame of mind when I came into the game was that it was a weak cop and I could confirm specific players. So, when I saw Kyanrute post this:

Kyanrute said:
I ate my PM.
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I was like alright, cool, I've identified one of the dogs already. That's why I led with saying I was pretty sure he was town when the game started.

Then I started looking for more breadcrumbs. I saw Reki with the dog profile pic, so I thought that was worth checking; and VA posted a dog gif out of nowhere on N1 (in my paranoia, I even tried googling some terms to see how he found that gif and the term was "dog shake it off gif").

Then, the post that really spooked me was this:

Maolfunction said:
You're a dog, maybe you have to sniff your lover out.
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I thought this was straight up bait for like a dogfather or maybe a trap, maybe Maol was scum and they had a role cop. It came in on D2, also, so he could have that information by then and it was just way too specific, like he was trying to fake claim an complement to my role. Given my results, this might still be the case. I'll get into that in a second.

These breadcrumbs all came to me around the same time, so what I did was passed over Maol the night phase after he seemed to be baiting the check and came back around to him.

N1 Reki - Not a dog
N2 VA - Not a dog
N3 Maol - Not a dog

My frame of mind after VA came back with "not a dog" was "fucking yikes, I think Maol may have been an actual dog lover and that's the point of my role". So I came into the thread hat in hand, ready to explain some of what was going on and having vastly overestimated the utility of my role. I checked Maol N3 and he is also not a dog and I'm not dead, either. So what I'm left with is:

1) I read too much into what Maol said or
2) whatever bait Maol laid out for me expired

I've been townreading Maol for a bit now, but of course there's always room for error in a read. I was hoping this would make me certain on him; however, I've got even more uncertainty now than I did before.

On a serious note, there's a very real chance I'm a false cop. Three checks and no usable results is rough, but being a bastard game, it's definitely possible.
 
rac

rac

whatever
i don't have much time to talk and process at the moment but im p sure i was blocked because all i got was a message back saying i should town read them now

it was p confusing
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
i don't have much time to talk and process at the moment but im p sure i was blocked because all i got was a message back saying i should town read them now

it was p confusing
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Take your time putting your thoughts together.

That is a weird message to get back
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
The summary is:

Sophie, Dog Investigator; I sniff players to find out if they're dogs.

N1 I checked Reki - they are not a dog
N2 I checked Vincent Alexander - they are not a dog
N3 I checked Maol - they are not a dog

Maol may have baited me to check him, but I'm not sure.

I may be a false cop.
 
rac

rac

whatever
im not even sure what to do with this info

how do you know i won't just go into the thread and post all of it?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
im not even sure what to do with this info

how do you know i won't just go into the thread and post all of it?
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Would it matter? Do you see anything useful in here?

The only way any of this is useful is if any of those three players were scum and tried to claim dog. I think it makes sense for more than one of us to have this information.

As I type it out, I realize how silly this all is and how hard Fanto must be laughing at my misery.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
i don't have much time to talk and process at the moment but im p sure i was blocked because all i got was a message back saying i should town read them now

it was p confusing
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Could you clarify a bit what the response was, if you've got the time now?
 
rac

rac

whatever
i didn't get anything about the quote i submitted be truth or false or that i was roleblocked

just that i received a message saying

Okay, NOW do you think you can townread me, just a little, just this once?
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LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
hmm we may need to think on this one. That's definitely a strange result.

Do you think maybe this is a godfather effect?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
i think something might have fucked with my item and scum sent me a message
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yeah, the language is just too specific. hmm.

I wonder if they're shot limited. Maybe we can get you some money again to do the same thing discreetly. How much do you have currently?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
It’s true.

I’ve been thinking about your result some more. I don’t want it to affect how you’re going to play your result (I see you’re trying to push Pancakes in the game thread), but what I might do is use my investigation on Pancakes tonight to see if I also get a weird result.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
uhhhh maybe ask Fanto. I mean, it’s still up to the gamerunner if a shot (in this case, I’d say it’s interchangeable) gets refunded when roleblocked, but it might be useful information for deciphering the results.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
This thing going on with Maol and Monkey right now is pretty sketchy. I have no idea if they think it’s the right thing or if they might be scum. It’s blind-sides me a bit.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
So since I cooled off a bit, if monkey sent you the message, and you didn’t actually get a result from the Prove-It Ticket, maybe Panckes is investigation immune? It’s a type of godfather still, but it would explain not even getting a “no result”. It would also give my role some kind of utility, but not enough to know what I’m looking at without more info like this.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
maybe dogs are cultist
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Maybe. That’s something to keep in mind, although given how my PM is worded, I would’ve expected them to be town since it says “like me”.

Do you have any suggestion who I should check if not Pancakes? If she’s investigation immune or if whatever screwed yours up happens to me again, that’s a good indication she’s scum, but since you brought up cultists, do you have any inkling who might be one?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Well, that theory’s not helping my paranoia any lol

The one other player that I thought might be breadcrumbing something about dogs was Monkey. I haven’t checked her yet, but I did breadcrumb a response back to her thinking she might know what was up (I don’t think she does).

Either way, I’d rather suss out whatever is up with Pancakes first. We’ll see how today goes when Vere flips.
 
rac

rac

whatever
well if it makes you feel any better it makes me feel better that you haven't been trying to get recruited by them or whatever
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
yeah, I thought Maol was trying to get me to recruit *him* when he said that dog lovers thing. Like maybe the turmoil/Zipped situation, where one player has half the information and the other has the other half.

I had considered coming into the thread today and claiming, try to bait scum into thinking that being a "dog" means town and maybe catch a few of the ones I already check. Glad I didn't, and I guess I'll need to hold onto the info for a bit just in case.
 
rac

rac

whatever
here's the thing they are gonna find you eventually right, so would you rather tell town now or after they do


like it basically means death for you so i dunno what you wanna do, get lunched or recruited?
 
rac

rac

whatever
guess we should talk some about reads
ive got a weird feeling that scum was trying to give a light push to turm yesterday that just wasn't working something happened in scum chat and chuggs was bussed

even before i voted there

in any case im very wary of monkey

and what does it say that almost no one engaged with my point that in the thunderdome sparks voted everyone except pancakes?
 
rac

rac

whatever
im weirded out by today, i could definitely have you lunched right now just by sharing your role and results in the thread and it's weighing heavy on my mind
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
here's the thing they are gonna find you eventually right, so would you rather tell town now or after they do


like it basically means death for you so i dunno what you wanna do, get lunched or recruited?
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If I get something useful and I can put away someone, then I'll come forward first. Otherwise, I figure it's best to keep quiet about it. The thing I have going for me is I have a lot of heat on me, so if there is a cult, there's a low chance they'll try to recruit me since I might get lunched the day after or something.

Seriously hoping there isn't a cult now lol

rac said:
guess we should talk some about reads
ive got a weird feeling that scum was trying to give a light push to turm yesterday that just wasn't working something happened in scum chat and chuggs was bussed

even before i voted there

in any case im very wary of monkey

and what does it say that almost no one engaged with my point that in the thunderdome sparks voted everyone except pancakes?
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Even though I agree your read there is a possibility, I am hesitant to go after monkey seriously in the thread because it may be seen as OMGUS. That said, after all that hemming and hawing about Sawneeks being a really weird kill, there's no real conclusion. The Sawneeks kill is weird because it doesn't remove a widely town read player from the game, and I'm not saying this is one of the reasons, but removing a widely townread player does give Monkey less players to hide behind.

rac said:
why send a message like that when im expecting a result from an item?
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so, that does seem uncharacteristic of Monkey to mess around with that, and on top of using the message to send a message that's so useless lol

This Blarg post is interesting:

Blargonaut said:
ok I got this

Dr. Monkey stabbed rac with the PEN which overwrote his PROVE-IT TICKET with a message which caused rac to not get any confirmation of the consumption of his item which he doesn't want to admit since in possible actuality he did get a confirmation of a certain truth about a particular player's quote and thus that player's Alignment if he had indeed checked one of the "I'm Town" statements from Yesterday but since ATP revealed a red-check against Verelios Today rac wants to fake-out scum by claiming he didn't get any viable result from his PROVE-IT TICKET nor confirmation from the host that it was even expended and in his possession still or not because it in fact might be a 2nd red-check which rac is saving for us to pursue Tomorrow but if rac dies before revealing that result then all of his efforts will have been for nothing so surely it doesn't behoove him to refrain from divulging that result from us Today because at least if he announces a confirmation of that actual possibility of a 2nd red-check of his that info will be immediately actionable upon Tomorrow's start so it would truly be in the best interests of Town if he did so so why doesn't he do so so I'm thinking it's because rac's trying to draw more attention towards Dr. Monkey right now in a subtle attempt to paint her as a potential Roleblocker or Item Thief who interrupted his PROVE-IT TICKET use last Night because maybe she actually is and possibly rac doesn't really have anything for us but doesn't want to commit to accusing Dr. Monkey publicly yet without any Town cred to his name after this result-less setback so is waiting for one of us to say it first like I'm doing now upon which he and the rest of scum team will seize this opportunity to push a scum-read of Dr. Monkey but then why would both she and he mutually admit to respectively having sent and received a message if not to corroborate each other as being truthful players which would go against my theory of rac trying to scum-ify Dr. Monkey by withholding last Night's homework unless they're both scum at the same time in the exact same place as ATP allegedly red-checking Verelios which Verelios denies is true all in the context of him having been the replacement of Aeleus who was in a Gossip chat with Town!weemadarthur who was killed after having been in the Thunderdome which we don't know who it was who activated that yet not to mention the fact that if it was scum's Power that means the Night-killing of wee was done by scum within the confines of their own Power's enforced participants and why would they do that if not to reinforce said participants of which only Fat4All and Conditional-Pancakes remain alive as seeming Town but before wee died Ael was being pressured as being scummy by them yet most of that sentiment against Ael seems to have waned since wee was killed which has been mighty convenient for a scum!Vere unless all of this actually an elaborate multi-stage setup by scum!rac, scum!Dr. Monkey, scum!Fat4All and scum!ATP to incriminate a Town!Vere through faking a red-check whilst pretending to fumble a possible 2nd red-check while ignoring that all the DICE belong within this pool of players but what did the KEYS do
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There might actually be some truth to this? The parts that make sense are whether the Pen overwrites results from another item.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
im weirded out by today, i could definitely have you lunched right now just by sharing your role and results in the thread and it's weighing heavy on my mind
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Well, we don't know if there is a cult or not at this point. It's just a guess. I don't know how misleading about its utility my role is meant to be.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
The problem is, even if there isn't a cult, that will be the angle scum pushes to get rid of me and there will be enough legitimately spooked town that the information will be skewed.
 
rac

rac

whatever
LaunchpadMcQ said:
There might actually be some truth to this? The parts that make sense are whether the Pen overwrites results from another item.
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you read all that? and now apparently vere had my result, i mean why not just tell me that originally?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I would believe Vere was trying to see how people reacted to the red check.

There's some weird shit going on here and I can't piece it together lol but I think ATP may have gotten a red check on your target, Pancakes, actually
 
rac

rac

whatever
i completely overlooked the prove it pm

i get no result if the statement can't be proven or disproven
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
The thing that's weird is that I don't see how you get no result from the Pancakes quote, unless something got swapped or she is investigation immune. It seems pretty clear cut otherwise.

rac said:
hey you think i should just come out with it?
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yeah, you might have to. I don't think us two are enough to understand this.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
No, I think this was the right call. Holding it back until Vere said something about receiving the result was a good play, even if it was partially luck that he was bold enough to get out in front of it. He had time to plan and this was his way of dirtying up ATP’s red check.
 
rac

rac

whatever
so when monkeys asks me how i feel about our chat i dont really know what to say without blowing up your spot
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
so when monkeys asks me how i feel about our chat i dont really know what to say without blowing up your spot
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:|

Alright, I’ll level with you here and see if it puts your mind at ease. I’m going to tell the game thread today that I’m going to roleclaim next day phase without saying what it is yet to not draw attention to it, but just that both of us think it’s a good idea to get it out of the way. That’ll put me on the spot for tomorrow, so you won’t have to sweat over it even if scum kills you tonight. If we lunch Vere and he is indeed scum, that will gives us some breathing room to discuss it and lunch me if they think the cultist idea is viable. I’ll give them all the details from my investigation and all the results.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Actually, thinking outside the box for a bit here, scum might even be the ones looking for me.

I definitely think with no meaningful results to my name at this point, I might by the turmoil in the turmoil/Zipped relationship, but the Zipped in this case may even be scum that gets some new ability if they kill me instead of winning the game.

That might also explain why scum killed Sawneeks if they were trying to find me, since the towncore has mostly all role claimed and they know none of them are Sophie. Scum hasn't tried to kill me yet because 1) I claimed to have some investigation and they haven't connected the dots that roles are being given some useless utility like turmoil and me, and 2) I'm not widely townread.

In which case, if I claim tomorrow, we need to give town all these thoughts and push for my lunch. Either way, I think it's dangerous to have me out here still at this point.

The paranoia is setting in...
 
rac

rac

whatever
yeah i dunno if that's even smart ya know

in any case i do still trust you but if i die and scum finds or someone recruits you it could be bad news

and what if i was scum? and the reason im but
 
rac

rac

whatever
but then again how bastard has this game really been? it's kinda been in the back of my head but this shit always happens when town is feeling good

then you get cultists controlling the whole game because everyone thinks it's already solved
 
rac

rac

whatever
three only thing im sure of is town and scum are going to be pushing to solve you if you claim and i dunno how i feel about that
 
rac

rac

whatever
sorry for all the typos and weird breaks in that post i just woke up and my phone isn't agreeing with me
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
It’s all good man

I definitely feel where you’re at. We might have to play it by ear. I think it’s maybe still likelier I’m just a false cop or maybe just exist to find a contradiction in a godfather, so I’ll target one of my scum reads tonight - likely Hedin.

I think there’s a low chance of you dying tonight since you divulged your information publicly already versus scum wanting to keep you quiet, so hopefully you’re around to sort this out tomorrow.
 
rac

rac

whatever
also dunno what this means about the prove it yesterday

if i really did get no result would fanto have sent me a no result pm?
was my item stolen?
is pancakes a neutral or town that was turned?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Oh snap, I didn’t realize this chat was still open!

poor fat4all :(

I think it means that it was another scum on the team that messed with your ticket, likely stolen. Fanto would have sent a “no result” if you hadn’t gotten results imo.

I don’t think we know enough about Pancakes/Malus at this point to make a call there. You just know how town does sometimes, sometimes they’re just not having fun and stop cooperating. Maybe that’s what happened with Pancakes, but I’m not ready to write off that slot yet (even though Malus is acting like town!Malus).
 
rac

rac

whatever
also 3/4 out of the thunderdome have flipped town

kinda hesitant to go there again with a prove it but i did buy one
i guess i shouldnt say who im going for cause then no one is going to have trust in the result right?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
also 3/4 out of the thunderdome have flipped town

kinda hesitant to go there again with a prove it but i did buy one
i guess i shouldnt say who im going for cause then no one is going to have trust in the result right?
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If Pancakes was in your scum reads, solving that spot is in no way a bad idea. Worst case is they are town but that’s one less roleclaim to t.

No need to say who you’re going for. I trust your judgement, and like you say, people might not trust it if you told me.

As for me, I might hang back at day start. I need to keep an eye out for any utility I can squeeze out of my role at this point. An easy one is catching a flavor contradiction. I don’t know how likely it is scum got fake role names that are dogs, but I’ll play that angle. But then there’s the other concern of whether someone is looking for me. Need to be on the lookout for just any weirdness at this point.
 
rac

rac

whatever
if you look at aeleus' posts it seems like scum were trying to make a mess out of the whole faddy situation early
 
rac

rac

whatever
tunnel continues!

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Easy Allies Mafia |OT| Death & Distrust OT

In the middle of some stuff here - hope to come back with a more developed vote/read on either him or someone else - but, at least until I read the case I asked him about; Vote: nin Agree with Kyan; nin shaded Launch for a vote without a case, but doesn't develop his own case too much either...
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rac

rac

whatever
so in recap aeleus spent day 1 on mechanics, dancing around the faddy topic and trying to tell town not to kill the lovers with more mechanics talk

with a post about pancakes casting shade and then suddenly pancakes pops up in a towny list

but actually i just looked at this vote
www.resetera.com

Easy Allies Mafia |OT| Death & Distrust OT

Oh, I thought my predecessor lost a bet - was that the basis of it? bet ambulance: 500, ambulance will meet the post minimum in well under 24 real hours A bet, a donation; pick not one but both.
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and it seems p genuine and i thought that pancake's unvote happened before faddy was actually killed

maybe scum!aeleus saw that vote and faddy's kill and just didn't want to gain heat by going after pancakes anymore
 
rac

rac

whatever
also if you are a cultist do not bother recruiting me because i will get drunk and pissed of that you did that and i will give up our whole team i swear to fanto
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
rac said:
if you look at aeleus' posts it seems like scum were trying to make a mess out of the whole faddy situation early
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ya, this is one of the big reasons Hedin stands out to me. Hedin seems to barely interact with anyone, and only once every few pages, yet makes the effort to engage with Faddy when Faddy was trying to gather money up. It stands out from his usual behavior a lot.

www.resetera.com

Easy Allies Mafia |OT| Death & Distrust OT

So uhh the Get wee Lightning fund doesn't seem to have taken off. Remember you (yes YOU) need to contribute some Don Bucks so we can get the cool item. I would prefer wee gets it with pooled money and a coming together of a community and not chuggs who has tried to gain money through gambling...
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rac said:
so in recap aeleus spent day 1 on mechanics, dancing around the faddy topic and trying to tell town not to kill the lovers with more mechanics talk

with a post about pancakes casting shade and then suddenly pancakes pops up in a towny list

but actually i just looked at this vote
www.resetera.com

Easy Allies Mafia |OT| Death & Distrust OT

Oh, I thought my predecessor lost a bet - was that the basis of it? bet ambulance: 500, ambulance will meet the post minimum in well under 24 real hours A bet, a donation; pick not one but both.
www.resetera.com www.resetera.com
and it seems p genuine and i thought that pancake's unvote happened before faddy was actually killed

maybe scum!aeleus saw that vote and faddy's kill and just didn't want to gain heat by going after pancakes anymore
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The only reason I didn't question that Pancakes vote is because the Faddy claim came in right after, but that's a super sketchy vote. She seemed to be overly deliberating the whole thing, as she has many things in the game.

For the record, I think Hedin and Reki are still probably my top 2 scum at the moment, but Pancakes has always been a "maybe? I can see it" to me and what you've said in this chat has brought me around to thinking there's a strong possibility.

rac said:
also if you are a cultist do not bother recruiting me because i will get drunk and pissed of that you did that and i will give up our whole team i swear to fanto
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I may just sell them out myself at this point lmao
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I guess I should post a full list of where I'm at. Now that ATP has been proven as a cop, I shouldn't forget I have a green check and could be killed, too.

Strong Town - (Blarg/turm get bumped up to strong just on the basis that I think they've been acting as scummy as they do when they're town and not more lol)
  • ATP
  • Monkey
  • Donna
  • Kyan
  • VA
  • rac
  • turm
  • Blarg
Lean Town but would give a second look
  • Maol (especially because he seemed to be baiting the dog thing, I've become a bit shaky on Maol)
  • Pancakes/malus
  • Stan
Lean Scum
  • Reki
  • Hedin
 
rac

rac

whatever
has mostly everyone claimed?
barring any neutral party how much scum should be left? around 3?
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

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rac said:
has mostly everyone claimed?
barring any neutral party how much scum should be left? around 3?
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ATP, Monkey, VA, you, and turm have claimed or soft-claimed. I believe Donna, Kyan, Blarg, Maol, Pancakes, Stan, Reki, and Hedin have not.

I think it's 3 scum or 2 scum and another neutral.
 
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