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Lone_Prodigy

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Yes I posted this before.
 

rac

whatever
the 50/50 thing with nin and i being on haw is so funny to me now

in both our heads we were probably thinking why isnt this guy defending us any better
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
At least i’m still king of reading zeke.
the rest is too out there for me to follow with my brain level lately.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Lol, this is amazing! At the start of D3 it definitely felt like some Scum figured out that they had to hunt other Scum, but I didn't expect that everyone was Scum.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
This thread is full of, uh, double entendres too if you read back.

It's like that game with the arsonist (Kingkitty) where all the mods posted fire puns in the thread before it lit up.

Yep I love it. I also loved Sawneek's reality tearing comments and just everyone playing along with their flip when they died.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Too lazy to count but I think 3/4 of the scum chats have had more posts in the chats than the game thread today. We will be going to 24hr days after today.

Edit: Actually just counted votes and I was wrong but the point that it's dead still stands.
 
Fran you are right, Launch and Fate are scum. Unfortunately for you they aren't on the same team.

No way realistically I see fran not being the vote, two teams about to team up on him.

Stu basically being vanilla town could be clutch. I wonder.
 

rac

whatever
honestly fran
i consider you part of the bourgeoisie
the fat cats of mafia era, part of the same group as sawneeks, natiko, monkey, hedin and othersetc
the people up there trying to supress us, the poor blobs

tho i find it odd you would want to reach further into endgame with question marks like EC and blarg around unless....

?
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Launch has been considering claiming alignment cop. If he does and Fran is voted out Fran will flip as an alignment cop which would make the next day very interesting.
Are flips based on claims in the main thread?
 
Reading the thread after knowing the truth is so weird now. It's a completely different game, or it always was but I was looking for the wrong thing.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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They're all too scared! I mean Stu did gambit and it appears to have worked for today at least.
 

rac

whatever
It was the first one that I wanted to make (have two more done & waiting). My old community like 10+ years ago did it and it was a lot of fun so I wanted to try it out.
anything that happened that you weren't quite expecting?
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Endgame is about to start getting interesting depending on who the kills are tonight. In a perfect scenario for one team it could potentially end D5 night.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Fran must be feeling like what we felt in MGS as the second scum team. Your arguments are sound and you think you've got scum but they outnumber you and "town" is on their side too. You can't do anything because you're scum too and no one will listen to you once you flip.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Maaaan, Bojak is my MVP at this moment, the way he is just tearing through some of the players especially launch is some good shit.
At least someone is reading his posts. As spec, I’m not bothering really, and the thread sure won’t.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
A lovely graphic was posted in our chat asking for guidance -- but IMO my teammate(s) is/are doing great! If they had complete information they would be killing it, but as it is I don't even know how close they are. There could be full 4-player teams remaining.
 
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Hedin

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A lovely graphic was posted in our chat asking for guidance -- but IMO my teammate(s) is/are doing great! If they had complete information they would be killing it, but as it is I don't even know how close they are. There could be full 4-player teams remaining.

They obviously have no clue but they should have hammered there. Depending on night orders now it could be game over.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Really hope the rest of Team Thorny doesn’t take this too hard if they lose, because they’re both doing real good. They just don’t know the actual situation they’re in, but based on what they think is the case, they’re playing really well!
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Yep they are playing very smartly they are just dealing with limited info. No one has assumed there is more than 2 scum teams yet and without even considering that they're just in a tight spot.
 
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Hedin

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I was actually trying to work and come up with flavor so just went with the first way to destroy a book that came to mind.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Hi. I don't have time to read spec chat now but I need to know this: Why was Rac's voting poll allowed?

We did talk about it when it came up. We decided that with it being public and him having to deal with any game fallout it was ok. Plus it appears as if there has been prior precedent with polls being allowed in the past. If we had decided it crossed the line I would have had him edit the post to remove the poll, I would not have modkilled him for it. I do think it might be something that we should bring up in the review thread at the end of the season.
 

Franconp

Frank
Rule 4 says:

4. Unless explicitly told otherwise, players may not discuss this game outside of this thread.

What is that poll if not that? I wasn't lying when I said that I didn't voted on the poll. So someone else besides the players alive did.

What's the difference with creating a thread in another forum, posting a link to the game and asking for people to give input on who is scum? What's the line?

We have rules. Bending them just because it's funny it's not the right way. Let's eliminate the rules then.

I'm tired of being scumreaded because gamerunners don't enforce the rules.
 

rac

whatever
edit: i don't agree that it's the same as going to another forum but i agree that it could be abused by people watching the thread, i wouldn't have done it if i thought spec or anyone else besides the players in the game would use the poll
 
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Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Rule 4 says:

4. Unless explicitly told otherwise, players may not discuss this game outside of this thread.

What is that poll if not that? I wasn't lying when I said that I didn't voted on the poll. So someone else besides the players alive did.

What's the difference with creating a thread in another forum, posting a link to the game and asking for people to give input on who is scum? What's the line?

We have rules. Bending them just because it's funny it's not the right way. Let's eliminate the rules then.

I'm tired of being scumreaded because gamerunners don't enforce the rules.

That example is literally discussing outside the game (and scum) thread. Rac's poll was public in the game thread, there is a distinction there. I asked players in spec not to vote in it and I believe this community knows well enough not to interfere with an ongoing game, it's easy for one active person to vote more than once using two devices.
 

Franconp

Frank
edit: i don't agree that it's the same as going to another forum but i agree that it could be abused by people watching the thread, i wouldn't have done it if i thought spec or anyone else besides the players in the game would use the poll

I believe you but you broke a rule anyway. We have modkilled players before when a player posted their role PM in the main game by mistake. This should work the same way.
 

Franconp

Frank
That example is literally discussing outside the game (and scum) thread. Rac's poll was public in the game thread, there is a distinction there. I asked players in spec not to vote in it and I believe this community knows well enough not to interfere with an ongoing game, it's easy for one active person to vote more than once using two devices.

I don't agree. It doesn't matter that Rac poll was in the thread, he shouldn't have made it when he couldn't control who was voting. And it shouldn't be allowed when the gamerunner can't check that all the votes come from players currently in the game.

But it was funny so it must be all right.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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If they go a certain way it's over. Preliminary discussions are pointing to the day continuing.

Also I was slightly wrong before, Haw's team was basically in a no win vote there. The other way would have been slightly better for them but only slightly.
 

heymonkey

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I disagree re: the poll. I think the poll is fine; there's no way to know where any votes come from and the use of it also had consequences. I think there's a difference between real info and something anonymous and spammable. I think if we ban things like the poll, then using things like spreadsheets or whatever also get sketchy and that's not a road I want to go down.

I do think it's skirting close to a line and I understand the concern. But I think it's a balance between fun and choices and things that can actually impact the game. In this case, that tool only has the impact it's given. No one knows anything about the votes, so they are meaningless until given meaning, really. But I think it's something that should go on the list for review thread, because there may be some harder lines we want to draw. I think if that's a question the community wants to take up, we can do it together.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I don't think the poll breaks the "no external discussion" rule. It's external, yes, but it doesn't affect the game. It's non binding, anonymous, and public. The rule is more for, say, PMs with another player.

However I don't think that is something that should be done again. If you want to poll your fellow players, do it in the game thread. Plus as the poll creator, rac has an advantage in that he controls the poll contents and can see voting activity while others can't.
 

rac

whatever
as for the content part, yeah i guess that's partly true but i control the content of what i post anyways and it's not like i forced anyone to engage with me or the poll

even so if it diminished anyone's enjoyment of the game i apologize
and if it means anything i didn't do it just to be a funny character, i was formulating (or attempting to) a strategy around it
 
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