FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
our NK didnt go through
so we have to deal with another fractional kill and some sort of vig
so we have to deal with another fractional kill and some sort of vig
Scum Thread High House Chains
- Thread starter Hedin
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Leo
Quack Pack King
I'm 80% sure there are two teams now. But the question now is, are the two teams the same faction or not?
If they're different factions, then there really are 8 scum in the game which is crazy, but maybe the balance is that they can kill each other (in MGS only one had a killing power).
If they're the same faction (and this is kind of a crazy theory), then there are probably impostors in each team and there might be really only 4 scum after all.
How we are going to figure that out, i have no idea. What do you think it's more likely? I think it's different factions, even if that brings the total of scum to 8. In that case, we should try to kill the other team asap.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Leo
Quack Pack King
Do you think the vig is still a thing? I think the two kills tonight could have be the other team's faction kill and our kill being redirected/switched.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
do you think launch is scum? reflect their shot?
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i mean if scum team is fran/launch and stu
then we are at 50% scum right now
then we are at 50% scum right now
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
think we should push launch ?
Leo
Quack Pack King
Right, that could be a scenario too. Okay, let's see how the day rolls out, see if we can gather any info from the talks in the thread to help us plan next night.
We have to figure out if Fran and Stu are really mafia. Why would scum!Stu do what he did? But why would he lie if he wasn't scum? Or maybe he isn't lying and your RB didn't go through. Fuck, idk, my brain is melting, I have to take a break lol I'm going on a jog, will catch up later
Leo
Quack Pack King
Seems likely he is, if our shot really got redirected. Let's keep an eye on how he behaves today.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Leo
Quack Pack King
The completed games section, it shows nothing there to me.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Leo
Quack Pack King
I can lol Was looking at completed games, thought it was there. Sorry guys!
Leo
Quack Pack King
Okay, Fate, reading again, Fran said this too:
I think we got him here, didn't we?
Why would town Fran think it's impossible for Geno having been tailored by his own team into the power he claimed himself? It's quite the contrary, he would be tailored to what he actually claimed, that's how tailoring is supposed to work. I checked MGS, Monkey could write a role for herself and submit it, and that was what town would get.
This game is different because the tailoring is done by the game runner and is random, but only us scum know this, town doesn't.
The trick is how we can point this without disclosing we know that Hedin is doing the tailoring and convince town he has privileged info so he must be scum.
I think we got him here, didn't we?
Why would town Fran think it's impossible for Geno having been tailored by his own team into the power he claimed himself? It's quite the contrary, he would be tailored to what he actually claimed, that's how tailoring is supposed to work. I checked MGS, Monkey could write a role for herself and submit it, and that was what town would get.
This game is different because the tailoring is done by the game runner and is random, but only us scum know this, town doesn't.
The trick is how we can point this without disclosing we know that Hedin is doing the tailoring and convince town he has privileged info so he must be scum.
Leo
Quack Pack King
I'm conflicted if Stu is scum or not. The evidence we have is that he could have lied about checking rac tonight.
I can definitely see a ton of coordination between him, Fran and Launch. His whole claim would be an intricate ploy to frame dead townies as mafia and mislead town and us. But one thing doesn't make sense here: why would they make us believe nin was town, then? They could just not mention nin and let town believe he was mafia, and frame another dead player. Stu saying that also hints even more at there being two scum teams, an information i don't think they would want town to have. It doesn't quite add up.
If Stu isn't scum, idk why he would lie about rac, which means our RB didn't go through. It's possible, as Stu would be an obvious target tonight and another townie could have protected him from night actions.
As much as Stu being teamed with Fran and Launch is tempting, I think he's town and our RB didn't work. This would also explain Fran's clumsy reaction, they got surprised when it was disclosed Zipped was their mate.
I can definitely see a ton of coordination between him, Fran and Launch. His whole claim would be an intricate ploy to frame dead townies as mafia and mislead town and us. But one thing doesn't make sense here: why would they make us believe nin was town, then? They could just not mention nin and let town believe he was mafia, and frame another dead player. Stu saying that also hints even more at there being two scum teams, an information i don't think they would want town to have. It doesn't quite add up.
If Stu isn't scum, idk why he would lie about rac, which means our RB didn't go through. It's possible, as Stu would be an obvious target tonight and another townie could have protected him from night actions.
As much as Stu being teamed with Fran and Launch is tempting, I think he's town and our RB didn't work. This would also explain Fran's clumsy reaction, they got surprised when it was disclosed Zipped was their mate.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
ok fine
lets see what pushing fran does
lets see what pushing fran does
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
im worried about the night tbh leo
we dont have our shots anymore
if we get fran lynched, there might be a chance scum takes us both out tonight
we dont have our shots anymore
if we get fran lynched, there might be a chance scum takes us both out tonight
Leo
Quack Pack King
I have my nexus shot, i can survive at least another night. I think you should lay low as much as possible today so the other team won't suspect you're scum, lemme me draw the attention and they will waste their shot on me.
Hopefully our NK will go through today, i mean, they have to be running out of power shots too, right?
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
we will see
we just have to keep pushing on
gonna be hard to stay low today, when the current town alive are pretty low posters
we just have to keep pushing on
gonna be hard to stay low today, when the current town alive are pretty low posters
Leo
Quack Pack King
Saaaame we have to rely on EC, Ynnek and Blarg engaging to lynch Fran and that isn't super great
I'd hope Bojack would be on board, it's weird how he's ignoring all the shit against Fran
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i think blarg is in cahoots with fran
they seem to be voting in line with fran
yesterday they kept going off and on me
they seem to be voting in line with fran
yesterday they kept going off and on me
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
I think if town dies
their flips arnt altered and its only if scum dies when it is
what u think?
their flips arnt altered and its only if scum dies when it is
what u think?
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
if we think rac was indeed scum
that scum team is down 2 and so are we
that scum team is down 2 and so are we
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Leo you better not be the snitch
Leo
Quack Pack King
Yeah, i think so too. The alignment most certainly isn't altered or we would have had at least 1 scum flip at this point. And altering only the role wouldn't serve much of a purpose.
Leo
Quack Pack King
Lol I'm not, I'm the most paranoid about the impostor in the team.
But if there was a player in both scum teams, they would probably be neutral, right? So not a snitch per se.
I'm leaning on two completely separate teams.
Leo
Quack Pack King
If Stu is town and is telling the truth, than rac was town.
If Stu is lying, then rac might be scum but we don't know how many are dead on their side because Stu would be lying about Zipped.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
this game sucks
next game im going to be LOLvillager and OPENwolf
next game im going to be LOLvillager and OPENwolf
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Nope! Thats what you get for calling me a bourgeoisie fat cat.
Also if you didn't call me that the answer would be the same.
Leo
Quack Pack King
If Fran isn't scum I'm retiring from mafia. Launch i don't know, we will see how far they go with their fight.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
alright
i doubt we will get much out of EC
think we should pressure blarg?
i doubt we will get much out of EC
think we should pressure blarg?
Leo
Quack Pack King
It's... Unlikely anyone can convince Blarg of doing anything lol the best we can hope for is convincing Bojack and Ynnek, and pray they arent mates with him.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
you think we should ask town if any1 wants to own up to any NKs?
Leo
Quack Pack King
Should be pretty safe, right? They already had 3 shots. I haven't seen any power have 4+ shots yet, as it might as well be unlimited at that point.
If that was a town vig, they're either out of shots and are safe to claim, or have unlimited shots (very unlikely).
I am actually writing a post that goes a bit into this and i could make that part of it, or you can go for it
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
if you hav a solid way to post that then go for it
otherwise it might take me some time so it wont look like im baiting
otherwise it might take me some time so it wont look like im baiting
Leo
Quack Pack King
I was writing a lengthy post about what I think is happening in general in the game but i had two thoughts about it because it might bring town's attention to there being two scum teams which isn't good for us. It's better to focus on getting Fran lynched now and getting town cred for it.
I think bringing up the fact that there probably isn't a town vig would make them consider the two teams theory more carefully, althought it would help debunking Fran's arguments.
Leo
Quack Pack King
If we can get Fran lynched today, what are the next steps?
We still have:
Launch
Stu
Bojack
Ynnek
Blarg
EC
I'm leaning on Launch being town now. Of course, he could be bussing Fran hard and have realized I'm on the other team.
Stu could be our NK, no one will protect him i don't think so we can probably get rid of another one of them.
The others i don't know, we'll have to see how they will behave during the day. I'm especially curious about Blarg.
We still have:
Launch
Stu
Bojack
Ynnek
Blarg
EC
I'm leaning on Launch being town now. Of course, he could be bussing Fran hard and have realized I'm on the other team.
Stu could be our NK, no one will protect him i don't think so we can probably get rid of another one of them.
The others i don't know, we'll have to see how they will behave during the day. I'm especially curious about Blarg.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
stu should be our NK IMO
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
sorry bout that leo
was building some patio stuff, and then i went for dinner and then i played some GENSHIN IMPACT and then skyward
but im here now!
was building some patio stuff, and then i went for dinner and then i played some GENSHIN IMPACT and then skyward
but im here now!
Leo
Quack Pack King
I won't forgive you!
for playing SS when I've already blown my gaming budget for the month :(
Leo
Quack Pack King
So we're hammer -2, and you haven't voted yet. Might be risky, but if Blarg or anyone else else shows up and vote for Fran, i think you should hammer.
Hopefully (pls pls pls) his flip won't get tailored and we won't have to worry about it tomorrow. Plus, if we manage to kill Stu and he flips scum, their whole case falls apart.
Hopefully (pls pls pls) his flip won't get tailored and we won't have to worry about it tomorrow. Plus, if we manage to kill Stu and he flips scum, their whole case falls apart.
Leo
Quack Pack King
We're at 9 players now, and i think it's unlikely either of us will be lynched today, so we should be at 6-2 when the day ends.
During the night, I'll use nexus and hopefully they will target me and it will kill someone else randomly (let's hope that it isn't you lol), and we have our own NK, so if everything goes right, we will be at 4-2 tomorrow.
So if we can lynch someone other than us tomorrow, we might win this fucking game.
During the night, I'll use nexus and hopefully they will target me and it will kill someone else randomly (let's hope that it isn't you lol), and we have our own NK, so if everything goes right, we will be at 4-2 tomorrow.
So if we can lynch someone other than us tomorrow, we might win this fucking game.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
sounds like a good plan leo
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
im just going to lay low and post when necessary today
im under a mountain of work zzz
im under a mountain of work zzz
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
alright reading thru thread
launch or fran, do we care?
launch or fran, do we care?
Leo
Quack Pack King
I think so, cause if Launch is lynched it might be one of us tomorrow, and I think Launch is town, and our main concern now is to kill the other scum team so they won't NK us.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Leo
Quack Pack King
I think you should hammer. If it's really 25%, there's a 75% chance he will flip scum and that will clear us, and even if he flips town, we will kill Stu tonight and that's another 75%. With Stu flipping scum we can connect all the dots and convince them Fran was scum retroactively.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
you sure blarg isnt reading this thread lol?
just odd they will go after bojack and call them pro fran lol
just odd they will go after bojack and call them pro fran lol
Leo
Quack Pack King
It's all there lol they're not being super subtle, they panicked.
Bojack has hesitated a lot, i called his attention to corner him into taking a stance, he ended up agreeing with him because he didn't have counter arguments. Then, he stalled a lot and did this bs iso to justify voting for Launch instead of Fran.
Leo
Quack Pack King
But that said, i don't think you will have the chance. Blarg is too smart, he probably knows there's something fishy with us, especially you not having put down a vote yet. He won't vote Fran now, i don't think.
And Ynnek implied he would only vote at eod.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Haw haw, nin
show me the path
show me the path
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
lmfao if EC flips to be scum LOL
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
alright while we wait for the fran flip
lets discuss night actions
you do your thing
and i will kill stu
does that look good to you?
lets discuss night actions
you do your thing
and i will kill stu
does that look good to you?
Leo
Quack Pack King
Leo
Quack Pack King
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i say lets use our NK to kill someone in spec thread
:kappa
:kappa
Leo
Quack Pack King
It's all fun and games until you're killed and you're not even in the game
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
what you think of the fran flip?
" I will be randomly selecting one of you to flip with a random town role should you be killed. You will not be told who gets selected each day."
do you think cop is still around or was that a tailor
fran was on launch, maybe we should try them again?
" I will be randomly selecting one of you to flip with a random town role should you be killed. You will not be told who gets selected each day."
do you think cop is still around or was that a tailor
fran was on launch, maybe we should try them again?
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
frick
i dont like us moving into 1 day clocks
we might lose this to the other scum team
if they are trying to fool us thinking one of them is dead :(
i dont like us moving into 1 day clocks
we might lose this to the other scum team
if they are trying to fool us thinking one of them is dead :(
Leo
Quack Pack King
Okay, thanks!
Leo
Quack Pack King
That flip has to be bullshit, Fran wasn't acting like he had a check on anyone, it also doesn't explained why he seem to know about the tailor mechanic.
I don't know if there is a cop in the game, I'm starting to think all these flips aren't accurate. They all have super powers, we've had a tracker with 3 shots, a doctor with three shots, now a cop with 3 shots... That's too op for town. Also, might be nothing, but Haw's fake town flip was a three shot town power. Maybe all the three shot town powers are tailored, i don't know.
Leo
Quack Pack King
What do you mean?
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Leo
Quack Pack King
Then we're fucked and i don't think there's anything we can do at this point lol
The only reason I firmly believe there is other scum team now is because i think Fran got the same instructions about the tailoring we did. If he was town, there might not even be another team, just a sk.
This game is batshit crazy
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
we ride to dawn leo
lets just sleep on it and come up with a NK
lets just sleep on it and come up with a NK
Leo
Quack Pack King
So How are you feeling today? Still rather NK launch? I really think launch being alive is our best chance at surviving a lynch tomorrow. Even if we don't target Stu, i think we should target someone else.
Also, remember Stu most likely lied about having checked rac. Even if Fran wasn't scum, Stu probably is.
Also, remember Stu most likely lied about having checked rac. Even if Fran wasn't scum, Stu probably is.
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
yea lets kill stu
either stu or bojack
either stu or bojack
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
launch could be scum too idk
yesterday felt weird, they gonna push us but oh well, if the other scum team dosnt tke them out then its kinda weird their still alive
yesterday felt weird, they gonna push us but oh well, if the other scum team dosnt tke them out then its kinda weird their still alive
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
ok how about this
you kill stu, and use ur skill, and then if we are both alive trmw, we push launch
you kill stu, and use ur skill, and then if we are both alive trmw, we push launch
Leo
Quack Pack King
Sounds like a plan!
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
it's been an honour playing with you leo
if i die tonight, i want you to know im proud of you
if i die tonight, i want you to know im proud of you
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
reading thread again
im pretty scummy at EOD with my hammer on fran
i think the 2nd scum team will target you and if our NK dosnt get switched we should be good
im pretty scummy at EOD with my hammer on fran
i think the 2nd scum team will target you and if our NK dosnt get switched we should be good