Spectator Thread Mansion and Simon Spectator Thread

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Fanto

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Hi everyone, hope you all have some fun!
Hi! Feel free to ask any questions about the game in here by the way, I'm sure all of us would be more than happy to answer.

It's fun seeing so many new faces recently, I think it was Saenima who had fun spectating the last game and is now playing in his first one this time.

Hopefully you enjoy watching the games! It can get pretty wild both in the game threads and in here haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh god, I'm actually kind of glad I wasn't in this game now lol. I don't know if I'd be able to handle another game where we have to vote for modifiers.

This looks like it was a lot of work though, so great job Brazil! Can't wait to see how this goes haha.
 
Oh god, I'm actually kind of glad I wasn't in this game now lol. I don't know if I'd be able to handle another game where we have to vote for modifiers.

This looks like it was a lot of work though, so great job Brazil! Can't wait to see how this goes haha.
Bear totally stole my thunder there, hahaha.

Some of my modifiers are a bit crazier, though :D
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Bear totally stole my thunder there, hahaha.

Some of my modifiers are a bit crazier, though :D
I tried making some guesses, but I have no idea honestly.

My best guess is that the Green Room is something like Cthulhu was in MafiEra with a post count limit. But then there are others that say something about "the voices" too, so I have no clue what that actually means yet lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lmao yessss, Z-Beat with the Clue gifs! He wanted me to use those in Gif Mafia, but I never had the chance since we cleaned up so fast in that game haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
For the record, I know Z-Beat outside the game, so I'm automatically rooting for him to have a good game regardless of his alignment.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
that is so adorable, even if they don't follow a Pokémon theme i'll find a way to use it.
 
Hi! Feel free to ask any questions about the game in here by the way, I'm sure all of us would be more than happy to answer.

If I got this right the game happens on the dedicated thread on Era and this board is for private conversations?

Also, we can talk about any aspect of the current games in this thread, right? Since it seems like only admins and spectators can access it.

By the way, thanks for all the responses, the community has been super nice and helpful.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If I got this right the game happens on the dedicated thread on Era and this board is for private conversations?

Also, we can talk about any aspect of the current games in this thread, right? Since it seems like only admins and spectators can access it.

By the way, thanks for all the responses, the community has been super nice and helpful.
Yep, this thread is basically just for us to chat with each other about the games while they're going on, we can talk about any aspect. After a player dies they can join in here too so it will gradually start to fill up over time. Or in this case since there is another game running concurrently, they'll also have the option to join the replacement list for that game too.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
And yeah, no problem at all! Like I said, it's great to see new people interested in the game. I played in my first game last August, and now it's like one of my favorite games of all time lol.
 
These games are gonna be a ton of fun. Can't wait for tomorrow and the hopefully-not-huge deluge of vote tool bugs :p

I've always been bad at keeping up with spec threads but I'm feeling pretty energized this season.

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Nice to see you again Donna! Feels like it's been a while since we've hung out in a Spec Chat together haha.

It does, doesn't it? :D

Also, I looked at my screen just at the right time to see both the penguin in your gif and the girl in my gif wave at the same time XD.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Haha yeah, the only reason I know of that gif's existence is because of Rynam. It is extremely cute though, so I'm glad I do lol.
 

Fanto

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Side note: WSD is my secret favorite new player because he has Sophia as his mentor, and she was my mentor, so I am excited to see a new player under the tutelage of Sophia since she literally taught me how to play the game, and in my opinion, she did a pretty good job of it. :)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Grizzly said:
I'm going to assume we won't have surprise "choosing a room gives a secret cult recruitment shots" mechanic this time around :P.
Grizzly said:
pretty sure this was advertised as not-bastard.
Grizzly said:
I don't think we should be stuck discussing the rooms that much, because I assume Brazil didn't put a cult in this game or something, no GM would ever do that, right?

Right?....
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We just had a game like that also.

It totally did not have cults.

Trust me.
FOR GRIZZLY'S EYES AND USE ONLY
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Grizz with the same thoughts I had about that series of posts from Stuart there...

I just can't help but scum read Stu on D1, it's only been an hour and he's already my top scum read lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
It's always like that for him XD. Town or Scum.
I think he might be right when he said that he words things like shit lol.

Like, with this:
We don't know how rooms will work yet. Be they ones that do exactly what they say or if it's something more obscure.
I understand what he means I think, but if I were playing, I'd quote that and say "Stuart, the room descriptions are all given in riddles, how could they do exactly what they say?" And then I'd vote for him lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think I'd be petitioning Town to vote for one of the rooms that has the "voices" description, since that could help them figure out what all of those do better once they learn what "voices" means in the context of the riddles.

I think I saw one person mention this early, but no one else has brought it up again I don't think.

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Also, yep, I figured FEPs was going for that reference lol. Him and B-Dubs got in a little scrap in GoT because he kept asking Dubs for a read list lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
It would be like if I asked Ketkat for her "top two Town" right away in our next game together lol.
 
I'm just reading some of the stuff from the Mansion thread and I've got a bunch of questions already!;
- So, given Brazil's counter, each day phase takes 3 hours? What's the meaning of "Phase lengths: 48/24"? My bad!
- What do you all mean by "cult" (in the context of the game ofc)? Best guess is an old mechanic.
- Is "scum" your word for mafia members? So... mean (but in good fun I guess).
- I believe I didn't spot this in the rules, but do you use extra roles like doctors?

Finally, who do you want to win?
 
I'm just reading some of the stuff from the Mansion thread and I've got a bunch of questions already!;
- So, given Brazil's counter, each day phase takes 3 hours? What's the meaning of "Phase lengths: 48/24"?
- What do you all mean by "cult" (in the context of the game ofc)? Best guess is an old mechanic.
- Is "scum" your word for mafia members? So... mean (but in good fun I guess).
- I believe I didn't spot this in the rules, but do you use extra roles like doctors?

Finally, who do you want to win?
1. Each day phase is 48 hours and each night phase is 24. This is the counter you should be looking at, posted here.
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2. Yes, a cult is a third faction that typically starts with few members and can recruit through some mechanic. It's not common in our games, but it happens. We just had a game featuring a cult, in fact!
3. Yes, scum=mafia.
4. Yup, we use common and non-common roles such as doctors, different sort of investigative roles, masons, etc.

And I want my mentee's faction to win of course :D
 
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- I believe I didn't spot this in the rules, but do you use extra roles like doctors?
To elaborate on this: Whenever a game is announced, it's announced along with its complexity rating, which can be any of these, which is determined during the game's design and review:
  • Normal: a setup with common mechanics and roles mixed in with vanilla roles.
  • Unusual: a setup that includes mechanics and/or roles that are rarely seen, or were never seen, in games run in or community.
  • Role madness: a setup entirely, or almost entirely, composed of power roles. A power role is considered any role that is not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon.
  • Bastard: a setup in which the gamerunner divulges false information to the players or that contains roles incovenient to play with and encourage bad sporting behavior, such as Voteless or Tanner.
Here's our list of usual roles and modifiers.

Both Simon Says and Mansion were advertised as Unusual.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm just reading some of the stuff from the Mansion thread and I've got a bunch of questions already!;
- So, given Brazil's counter, each day phase takes 3 hours? What's the meaning of "Phase lengths: 48/24"? My bad!
- What do you all mean by "cult" (in the context of the game ofc)? Best guess is an old mechanic.
- Is "scum" your word for mafia members? So... mean (but in good fun I guess).
- I believe I didn't spot this in the rules, but do you use extra roles like doctors?

Finally, who do you want to win?
So, a Cult is a specific kind of Neutral faction that can be put into a game. Typically they can recruit Town members to their Cult at night. In the last game, MafiEra Mafia, there was a Cult, and we didn't find out about it until way late into the game. Grizzly was the Gamerunner for that game, so he's making some jokes about how some of us weren't too thrilled with that mechanic lol.

Scum is a slang term for Mafia, yeah. In my first game, there was a bit of a debate about whether Scum meant any non-Town member, or just Mafia, but so far I've usually just seen it used as slang for the Mafia.

A doctor could certainly be in the game, most of the games that I've seen so far here don't specify what roles could be in the game unless it is an "open" setup, meaning it's a prepared one that can be found online.

I always root for Town from Spec Chat, but I'll be honest that if some of the players I like on a personal level end up being Scum, I might root for them lol especially if they are doing a good job at deceiving people together. It's hard not to appreciate a Scum Team that is performing really well, especially from the comfort of Spec Chat.
 
Thank you both.

To elaborate on this: Whenever a game is announced, it's announced along with its complexity rating, which can be any of these, which is determined during the game's design and review:
  • Normal: a setup with common mechanics and roles mixed in with vanilla roles.
  • Unusual: a setup that includes mechanics and/or roles that are rarely seen, or were never seen, in games run in or community.
  • Role madness: a setup entirely, or almost entirely, composed of power roles. A power role is considered any role that is not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon.
  • Bastard: a setup in which the gamerunner divulges false information to the players or that contains roles incovenient to play with and encourage bad sporting behavior, such as Voteless or Tanner.
Here's our list of usual roles and modifiers.

Both Simon Says and Mansion were advertised as Unusual.

So that's what unusual meant then… I thought it was related to the perceived difficulty of the game or something. I'll check that list too.

By the way, the tracker tool is really helpful.

I always root for Town from Spec Chat, but I'll be honest that if some of the players I like on a personal level end up being Scum, I might root for them lol especially if they are doing a good job at deceiving people together. It's hard not to appreciate a Scum Team that is performing really well, especially from the comfort of Spec Chat.

Agreed. But of the current players that I've read across the forum, Fat4All seems to be one of the most consistently funny. And he has a dog as an avatar, so his faction has my unconditional support.
 
By the way, the tracker tool is really helpful.
Thanks! It's exciting to see the new version working so well with Mansion. I was expecting it to break way more :D

Any feedback on formatting/readability as well as feature requests are more than welcome btw. I've already got a couple ideas for the next update :)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Agreed. But of the current players that I've read across the forum, Fat4All seems to be one of the most consistently funny. And he has a dog as an avatar, so his faction has my unconditional support.
I desperately want him to play in the next Gif Mafia game lol. (Gif Mafia was a game that Pedro ran a couple months ago where we could only post gifs, it was wild haha)
 
I desperately want him to play in the next Gif Mafia game lol. (Gif Mafia was a game that Pedro ran a couple months ago where we could only post gifs, it was wild haha)

That sounds… fun but exasperating, if that makes any sense.
 
This entire conversation about the glass wall is really great. I think those are the two hints that really accomplish what I wanted they to do. Many of the different interpretations being brought up could potentially fit the hints.

Agreed. But of the current players that I've read across the forum, Fat4All seems to be one of the most consistently funny. And he has a dog as an avatar, so his faction has my unconditional support.
There are some insanely funny players in this community. Blargonaut is another good example. A couple of seasons ago he had a short cameo appearance in a game called Heroes Vs. Villains and I'm laughing out loud just thinking about it now.

That's a good reason as any for choosing who to root for, haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
This entire conversation about the glass wall is really great. I think those are the two hints that really accomplish what I wanted they to do. Many of the different interpretations being brought up could potentially fit the hints.
I'm amazed at some of these guesses that are coming out because I had no clue what some of that stuff was supposed to mean lol. Like I think the idea of there being "sister rooms" is really good, and now the glass wall speculation is really interesting to me.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Haha, just noticed you gave yourself a new tag Brazil. ;)

Also, melon:
melonrabbit said:
Hi, this is my first game :)

Please be nice. Color theory is the worst.

Vote: Splinter
So predictable, lol. <3
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Looks like not too much happened while I was asleep, just a little more mechanics talk and Splinter's arrival.

Hot Take Reads based on the first 12 hours of the game: Stuart and Grizzly are both Scum.
 
I'm so happy to see Fat4all in this game :D one of my scum buddies from my first game here.

Hot Take Reads based on the first 12 hours of the game: Stuart and Grizzly are both Scum.

If this is true, then maybe Stu still wants revenge for Monopoly but I don't know, Stu's play so far just reads as the same as the previous games to me?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If this is true, then maybe Stu still wants revenge for Monopoly but I don't know, Stu's play so far just reads as the same as the previous games to me?
I just thought that little thing between them felt a bit manufactured maybe? I don't have much else to go on yet, but both of them had some posts that stuck out to me early on.

I've never seen either of them as Scum yet though, so no meta reads or anything, just vibes haha.
 
I just thought that little thing between them felt a bit manufactured maybe? I don't have much else to go on yet, but both of them had some posts that stuck out to me early on.

I've never seen either of them as Scum yet though, so no meta reads or anything, just vibes haha.

Fair enough ^_^, I can understand that. I'm not so sure though haha but maybe that's because Stu has been town in every game since Monopoly rather than anything else.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
BronsonLee said:
also if I was doing that was super weird/confusing to people in a Mafia game and got called out for it, and I could stop doing it, I would
It's a damn shame that Blarg isn't in this game lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hmm, weemadarthur might be on to something here. I could see people having unactivated PRs that get powered up once they enter a specific color room. Could even be a Scum role, like a JoaT that starts with 0 shots but earns them based on certain colors? That sounds like it would be a fun role lol.

Or maybe there's a Cult that gets recruitment shots, who knows. ;)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
As for ZippedPinhead, I've only played with him once, in Conspiracy.

We (the Scum team) killed him on N1 because he hardly made any posts of substance and was the perfect low info kill target for us. This could just be him overcompensating lol.
 
It's really hard to draw a straight line from game to game with Zipped. I've played with him multiple times, and each time he behaved in completely different ways. He likes to mix it up.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I gotta say though, I'm really impressed with all of the new players so far. They are all staying active and contributing their thoughts to the game even this early on D1.

I was so shy on D1 in my first game lol. I picked a fight with Splinter, then I realized he was probably Town, and then I didn't really say much else for the rest of the day haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Muffin said:
Glass room has probably something to do with interfering with actions or is something that has to do with the neutral I think.
*Splinter said:
Muffin started posting but I don't think they've said anything of note yet. Just mentioned a neutral role for some reason.
Hecht said:
Muffin sticks out to me too, especially them saying "the neutral."
Muffin said:
Didnt somebody else talk about glass room being possibly related to a neutral, at least I remember reading it and it making sense to me
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Yeah all the new players are doing well. Saenima in particular, his mentor must be giving him great support and advice.
 
And we're not even a full day into it yet and there are only two players below the post minimum, which also feels impressive to me.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Fran, Simon Says is a kids game and I didn't want to put kids in a violent Mafia game. Simon, the toy, it is :P
 

Fanto

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Oh my god, anyone who just played in MafiEra is probably like "When will I just be able to vote for who I think is Scum on D1 again!?" lol.

I am very intrigued by this though, Pedro!

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Fanto

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B-Dubs said:
Blarg did the same thing in GoT. He spent D1 playing with spoiler tags and we were split on whether to lynch him or not because if he was scum it'd be a dumb move on his part. Guess how he flipped when the game ended.
I was hoping Dubs would eventually spell this one out to people lol our introduction to Blargonaut in GoT could not have been better honestly.

He later claimed as a Neutral Survivor on like D5, and then that same day we lynched the second Neutral of the game, basically proving that he was lying, and we lynched him the next day lol.

I love Blarg.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I hope Cabot gets to be Simon, and I'm not just saying that because he was my Mason partner last game! Though that is mostly why, yes.
 
I'm catching up now and Zippedpinhead randomly changing votes is such a weird way to claim attention. And since he became the lead candidate to die, he just posted once to say he was just having some fun.

And you have Godfather getting into arguments with no one too, pressuring for some reason.

I guess at least one of them has a role or something.
 
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Fanto

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I'm catching up now and Zippedpinhead randomly changing votes is such a weird way to claim attention. And since he became the lead candidate to die, he just posted once to say he was just having some fun.

And you have Godfather getting into arguments with no one too, pressuring for some reason.

I guess at least one of them has a role or something.
That is a good possibility. I've definitely seen Town members who don't want to get killed at night (perhaps because they have a good role) act in ways that draw Town's attention early so that Scum will think of them as a mislynch candidate instead of a possible night kill.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just got caught up with both games.

Not sure who they'll lynch here for D1 in the Mansion. I could see it being Zipped, but my guess is we'll get somewhat of a shitshow. There may very well be more than one role claim at EoD.

My soul read on Turmoil is that he is Town as Fuck here. If I'm right, then it means I will have correctly guessed his alignment on D1 in 3 straight games based on nothing other than the tone of his posts.

I would probably be trying to vote for one of the more inactive voices. I'm a fan of going for people on D1 who aren't posting a lot, but are obviously reading the thread very carefully and are aware of everything going on when they do make a post. I think Grizzly is trying to do something similar to this with his vote as well, he talked a bit about this concept. Someone like Kalor or LuxCommander would probably be my top picks.

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As for Simon Says, I actually do think they'll vote for Cabot in the end, he's just an easy Town read for some reason lol.

Faddy doing a Blarg impression is interesting to say the least. It actually does make me wonder if he rolled Scum yet again lol.

No scum leans or anything yet otherwise, just "Cabot feels Town again" is pretty much my only read so far. Hopefully they pick up the pace a bit more in that game, though I can understand if conversations get stalled a bit since they are trying to find Town on D1 instead of Scum, something I know the pain of all too well.
 
Faddy doing a Blarg impression is interesting to say the least. It actually does make me wonder if he rolled Scum yet again lol.

That would be 3 games in a row I think?

That would be some luck. I've only been scum once ;_; scum chat is fun to chat in. At least it was for my game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, as much as I feared being Scum again after Conspiracy, I think I'd kind of like another go at it now. Scum Chat is a fun time haha.
 
I could see it being Zipped, but my guess is we'll get somewhat of a shitshow.

Looking at the tracker I'd say Zipped is a safe bet unless something weird happens.

Aeleus said:
Grizzly, Stuart and Z-Beat were some of my earliest scum reads, this stance has softened on Stuart over time (mainly as I don't think he and Grizzly are scum together) but Grizzly I still lean scum on, didn't like how it felt like he was quickly setting himself up for a town leader role and some of his posts have stuck out as odd (especially the whole 'Zipped lie' fiasco)

I have a hunch that Grizzly is a goon.

Also writting good haiku is super hard, I'd ask to be lynched if it happened to me.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Looking at the tracker I'd say Zipped is a safe bet unless something weird happens.
In my last game, there was a day where two Scum fake claimed as Cops because they thought they might die, and then a Town Commuter was forced to claim as well so we didn't kill him.

The next day, a Scum fake claimed as Doctor, and then our real Doctor counter claimed it.

The next day, Brazil and his brother Fandorin, who were both Town, caused a huge mess which resulted in Fandorin getting mislynched (no offense Brazil/Fandorin <3).

Then the next day, someone anonymously killed our top vote candidate with 5 minutes to go in the day, causing the second place to get lynched instead. They turned out to be a member of a Cult which we did not know existed until then, and wouldn't have known about at all if the other person wasn't killed first.

So in other words, expect the weird lol.
 
Looking at the tracker I'd say Zipped is a safe bet unless something weird happens.
I'm not feeling the Zipped lynch actually, mostly because his kill wouldn't really give that much info, other than answering if he's switching votes for the lols or something else.
I can see people leaning towards a Bear vs. someone else vote (maybe Melon or Lux) with a potential swerve at the very end of the day. Many players are due for refreshing their vote.
 
The next day, Brazil and his brother Fandorin, who were both Town, caused a huge mess which resulted in Fandorin getting mislynched (no offense Brazil/Fandorin <3).
None taken, we did cause a huge mess.

But only because town/scum were already gonna mislynch Fand anyway because Sorian told them to :P
 
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