Spectator Thread Inside Muffin

[lokiduck]

Oh, so if Wee isn’t scum who wrote those controlled posts for me?

Yep it was Fando the Betrayer.

 

[Fanto]

The only person I 100% trust right now is a damn Neutral. This sucks.

Natiko what are you thinking. You likely win tonight regardless so your help here would be massively appreciated.

Like it's only AB, Cat, Muffin, or Brazil.

Cat just. She seems to Town to me I have trouble seeing scum.

AB is who fucking knows.

I might be in Muffin's pocket and this thought terrifies me more than anything.

Brazil is likely only scum if muffin lies.

I'm scared to see spec

Now this is an endgame paranoia post lol.

But yeah, that's basically what it boils down to. Cat's role claim is too townie, AB is a mystery, but Brazil and Muffin have a link in that Muffin keeps trying to say he green-checked Brazil.

Take out Muffin, that's how they get the answers.

 

[weemadarthur]

Oh, so if Wee isn’t scum who wrote those controlled posts for me?

Fandorin posted through you, sorian voted through you. You were the constant puppet.

And I supported you the whole time!

 

[weemadarthur]

Brazil/muffin scum and scum!Brazil just accepted the clear for his advtange but now realized muffin has to die so he can win?

Oh heeeyyyy sneeks thinkin it through.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I believe in Neeks. I know we spent this whole game trying to kill each other, but believe in yourself, boat friend

 

[Chuggernaut]

I was really hoping Neeks would of realized my vote for her was forced after Sorian’s flip.

 

[TearablePuns]

Are you Kyaning me, muffin. Are you pretending to be a friend as you sharpen your knife?

I really don't think Nat is lying here. Which means you have to be lying. It's the only other logical conclusion left.

I wanna be Sneeks when I grow up <33

 

[Chuggernaut]

They should kill AB today, Nat should kill Neeks, and Muffin should kill Cat

 

[weemadarthur]

They should kill AB today, Nat should kill Neeks, and Muffin should kill Cat

You can’t voluntarily secede, chuggs. You’re stuck with your townmates.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

So, did I EVER save anyone? Or did I whiff all my heals?

 

[weemadarthur]

So, did I EVER save anyone? Or did I whiff all my heals?

Pretty sure you saved loki that one night.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I totally forgot that pic when I made the role, counter point is what the fuck is a genotype microchip anyway. Might have nothing to do with machines.

it's a biological thingy in a computer thingy, which is why it lets Mega Man copy non-robots

you joke but you have no idea what I tried to convince Sorian out of doing in scumchat

I’m going to need a disclaimer on all future games with post/vote controlling roles by the way because that shit was not chill

yeah I don't know if @Fandorin knows the extent to which Geno was on my ass about hinting about it

if he did he probably just would've gone for a straight fakeclaim

 

[Chuggernaut]

you joke but you have no idea what I tried to convince Sorian out of doing in scumchat
yeah I don't know if @Fandorin knows the extent to which Geno was on my ass about hinting about it

if he did he probably just would've gone for a straight fakeclaim

Oh no, I got a stern talking to after my forced post day lol.

That's kind of why I was selling the Neeks vote more than I did previously, (And I actually was considering the idea that scum hit the other scum team with that vote.) but I guess I did it a little too well, because Neeks was still using that vote as a way to scum read me after Sorian's flip lol

 

[Fandorin]

it's a biological thingy in a computer thingy, which is why it lets Mega Man copy non-robots

you joke but you have no idea what I tried to convince Sorian out of doing in scumchat
yeah I don't know if @Fandorin knows the extent to which Geno was on my ass about hinting about it

if he did he probably just would've gone for a straight fakeclaim

Oh no, I got a stern talking to after my forced post day lol.

That's kind of why I was selling the Neeks vote more than I did previously, (And I actually was considering the idea that scum hit the other scum team with that vote.) but I guess I did it a little too well, because Neeks was still using that vote as a way to scum read me after Sorian's flip lol

Geno said he’d be sterner about the rules after I asked him about it following Chuggs’ rebuttal, but even so I didn’t think a fake claim would work after Chuggs revealed that there was a fake poster; in the end you could’ve just not answered anything about it and be done with it.

 

[lokiduck]

It's not, not really. The only people whose words we have to go off of are Muffin and Brazil.

Well then I guess we got nothing because those are the most trustworthy in the bunch right?

 

[Fandorin]

Well then I guess we got nothing because those are the most trustworthy in the bunch right?

I don’t get why Brazil said he’s a robot? I mean, he’s not, right? He claimed Edward and Ein no?

 

[lokiduck]

I don’t get why Brazil said he’s a robot? I mean, he’s not, right? He claimed Edward and Ein no?

He is not but I thought at one point he said he wasn't.

 

[lokiduck]

Lol I just noticed on the newest members all of the Illuminati accounts are listed and have their avatars.

 

[Sorian]

it's a biological thingy in a computer thingy, which is why it lets Mega Man copy non-robots

you joke but you have no idea what I tried to convince Sorian out of doing in scumchat
yeah I don't know if @Fandorin knows the extent to which Geno was on my ass about hinting about it

if he did he probably just would've gone for a straight fakeclaim

I still think I could have sold it well. Definitely wouldn’t have been a new revelation just today with Aeleus talking about the Illuminati stuff. We had no way of knowing they had their own chat though so it would have went nowhere, just like the rest of our game plan lol

 

[Ketkat]

Lol I just noticed on the newest members all of the Illuminati accounts are listed and have their avatars.

That's why you all should have used a perfect disguise like my moustache!

 

[Sorian]

Lol I just noticed on the newest members all of the Illuminati accounts are listed and have their avatars.

I'm trying to fix this even though I don't think there is an actual fix but I found another option and I maybe did a thing that will upset you in particular :D

 

[Chuggernaut]

One of my goals in mafia is to roll mafia, change my avatar for the scum team on Outermafia, and then have someone invite me to a gossip chat or whatever and have my scum status given away because of my avatar.

“I don’t know, Chugg seemed pretty alright in the gossip chat, but his avatar was fucking Nergal from Fire Emblem 7 so maybe we should kill him.”

 

[Sorian]

I feel like my Thanos avatar really gave me a nice warm edge in this game everytime I got put into a hacker chat.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I feel like my Thanos avatar really gave me a nice warm edge in this game everytime I got put into a hacker chat.

Oh god, I didn't even think about that lol

 

[weemadarthur]

I feel like my Thanos avatar really gave me a nice warm edge in this game everytime I got put into a hacker chat.

I didn’t notice, sorry.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I feel like my Thanos avatar really gave me a nice warm edge in this game everytime I got put into a hacker chat.

He's more chill than screaming Yuri

 

[Sorian]

Anyone that is here right now, if you look at the top of this page, you should see the OM logo, then a house, then forums, to the right of that do you have a tab that says members?

 

[Sorian]

Actually, you probably all do, nevermind, hmm

 

[Chuggernaut]

Anyone that is here right now, if you look at the top of this page, you should see the OM logo, then a house, then forums, to the right of that do you have a tab that says members?

I actually don't see that tab

 

[Sorian]

Huh, maybe what I did worked then, let me find a dummy account

 

[Sorian]

Eh, not an elegant solution but good enough band-aid fwiw as the game is almost over. There are ways to defeat what I did but I'll bring it up with OM crew when this is over, can't really talk about it with them now since Natiko is in that chat, thanks for pointing it out loki.

 

[lokiduck]

I'm trying to fix this even though I don't think there is an actual fix but I found another option and I maybe did a thing that will upset you in particular :D

I see your message count XD

I feel like my Thanos avatar really gave me a nice warm edge in this game everytime I got put into a hacker chat.

In illum chat we all wondered if you were Thanos and how hilarious it would be if your actually were considering your avatar.

One of my goals in mafia is to roll mafia, change my avatar for the scum team on Outermafia, and then have someone invite me to a gossip chat or whatever and have my scum status given away because of my avatar.

“I don’t know, Chugg seemed pretty alright in the gossip chat, but his avatar was fucking Nergal from Fire Emblem 7 so maybe we should kill him.”

The only reason I have cap is because I was confirmed town as him LOL.

 

[lokiduck]

Eh, not an elegant solution but good enough band-aid fwiw as the game is almost over. There are ways to defeat what I did but I'll bring it up with OM crew when this is over, can't really talk about it with them now since Natiko is in that chat, thanks for pointing it out loki.

No problem, it really only would have been an issue if Fando was still alive or if Fanto was since both used their regular avatars LOL.

 

[Sorian]

My message count is totally on the level and I'm sure no repercussions will come from this blatant abuse of power

 

[lokiduck]

My message count is totally on the level and I'm sure no repercussions will come from this blatant abuse of power

Yeah I'm sure :P

 

[lokiduck]

Also did you get rid of the "notable members tab" so no one can see who are new members? :P

 

[Sorian]

Yeah I'm sure :P

Your quest also pointed me towards a page that lets me modify likes received and to the nuclear option page where I was two clicks away from deleting everyone except for Retro's super-admin account.

I'm very trustworthy

 

[Sorian]

Also did you get rid of the "notable members tab" so no one can see who are new members? :P

Pretty much. I figured that was the best thing to do on short notice, technically seeing Fando's avatar attached to one of those accounts is still a spoiler to half the player base. I'm pretty sure there are still ways to navigate to that page though but you'd have to know the url I think.

 

[lokiduck]

Pretty much. I figured that was the best thing to do on short notice, technically seeing Fando's avatar attached to one of those accounts is still a spoiler to half the player base. I'm pretty sure there are still ways to navigate to that page though but you'd have to know the url I think.

Well okay then. XD

 

[Sorian]

Also, I doubt Brazil would mind, his last post in scum chat is just this:

 

[Fanto]

The hell did I just walk into!? Sorian is out of control! We need to stop him!

VOTE: SORIAN

 

[lokiduck]

Vote: Sorian

Now that's a lunch i can get behind!

edit: I saw that post change >:(

 

[Sorian]

Weird flex voting for yourselves but ok

 

[heymonkey]

My message count is totally on the level and I'm sure no repercussions will come from this blatant abuse of power

sir

 

[lokiduck]

I also just realized that the top three posters on this site I'm purposefully ignoring Sorian's Hack are Bi 8D

Talk about Bi Solidarity then!

 

[weemadarthur]

I need to sleep. Is anything happening now or is it safe to piss off for a while?

 

[Sorian]

No hax here, probably just a glitch in the system, don't mind our dust, etc etc

 

[Chuggernaut]

The hell did I just walk into!? Sorian is out of control! We need to stop him!

Vote: Fantomas

Not really feeling a Sorian vote right now. I’ve been liking his post during this day phase and I feel worse about Loki tbh.

And why did you write that post about Sorian and vote for Fanto? Just reads as super shady.

 

[Sorian]

I need to sleep. Is anything happening now or is it safe to piss off for a while?

Probably safe, no one seems to be ready to make moves

 

[Fanto]

Weird flex voting for yourselves but ok

 

[heymonkey]

Oh, I see everyone's buying Stu a cake.

 

[weemadarthur]

Oh, I see everyone's buying Stu a cake.

Early wedding anniversary. We can ask for pics lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Not really feeling a Sorian vote right now. I’ve been liking his post during this day phase and I feel worse about Loki tbh.

And why did you write that post about Sorian and vote for Fanto? Just reads as super shady.

Hey I am not shady at all.

I mean i'm confirmed town :O how could a confirmed Townie be shady? >:(

 

[Fanto]

And why did you write that post about Sorian and vote for Fanto?

Check again

 

[lokiduck]

Oh, I see everyone's buying Stu a cake.

I hope he gets the best cake ever because he deserves it. XD

 

[Chuggernaut]

Check again

You should be mod killed for that

 

[weemadarthur]

I also just realized that the top three posters on this site I'm purposefully ignoring Sorian's Hack are Bi 8D

Talk about Bi Solidarity then!

How do you see top site posters, and does that account for historical scum posts?

 

[Sorian]

The hell did I just walk into!? Sorian is out of control! We need to stop him!

VOTE: SORIAN

I almost took it a step further and removed your ability to edit your own posts :P

 

[lokiduck]

The hell did I just walk into!? Sorian is out of control! We need to stop him!

VOTE: SORIAN

I demand a way to be able to like a post more than once.

 

[heymonkey]

I also just realized that the top three posters on this site I'm purposefully ignoring Sorian's Hack are Bi 8D

Talk about Bi Solidarity then!

we just need to talk to EVERYONE

 

[Sorian]

How do you see top site posters, and does that account for historical scum posts?

That's part of the functionality I just removed for now sorry. It does account for historical scum posts, I believe it updates once we make those boards public.

 

[lokiduck]

How do you see top site posters, and does that account for historical scum posts?

There is a Notable members pages that keeps track of all the site stats, but Sorian hid it because Fando used his avatar on his illuminati account.

 

[weemadarthur]

Cooooool

 

[lokiduck]

we just need to talk to EVERYONE

Yes that makes complete sense now. Either way, i knew I had found my people when I joined this silly game.

That's part of the functionality I just removed for now sorry. It does account for historical scum posts, I believe it updates once we make those boards public.

Just wait until Illum chat gets public LOL my posts are going to go up again. XD

 

[Chuggernaut]

Vote: Lokiduck

We need to get some votes down

 

[Sorian]

Yes that makes complete sense now. Either way, i knew I had found my people when I joined this silly game.



Just wait until Illum chat gets public LOL my posts are going to go up again. XD

Poor Fanto, I can't merge his illuminati posts into his main account.

 

[lokiduck]

There is a Notable members pages that keeps track of all the site stats, but Sorian hid it because Fando used his avatar on his illuminati account.

So if you want to blame anyone wee, blame Fando again :P

 

[lokiduck]

Vote: Lokiduck

We need to get some votes down

:o !!!!

But

>:(

 

[lokiduck]

Poor Fanto, I can't merge his illuminati posts into his main account.

Yes it is truly unfortunate and why it's great I got to keep my account. XD I mean what was the point of using this avatar if I had to use a costume account :P

 

[Sorian]

:o !!!!

But

>:(

I 100000000000% went into this game waiting for the flip side of this gif and when we realized you were illuminati I was so ready and then nothing.

Worst game ever

 

[lokiduck]

I 100000000000% went into this game waiting for the flip side of this gif and when we realized you were illuminati I was so ready and then nothing.

Worst game ever

Honestly I am disappointed too. When I heard I was a member of the Illuminati I thought some super crazy shit was going to happen.

But NOPE we just get to be neighbors .\ , /.

I was hoping we'd at least get to become a zombie cult, but noooooope just neighbors that get betrayed by Fandos and Id stealing Breakfast foods >:(

 

[Chuggernaut]

I’m just bummed the Illuminati didn’t have to prevent any incursions

 

[lokiduck]

I’m just bummed the Illuminati didn’t have to prevent any incursions

Hey at least we prevented Thanos from winning :p Even if town loses, I'm considering that a win.

 

[Geno]

I’m just bummed the Illuminati didn’t have to prevent any incursions

That was an idea I had but couldn't incorporate it

 

[Fanto]

In the meantime, I just wanna say check out Fantomas pressuring 3 scum and 1 essentially scum before the game even fucking started.

Well, not really lol...

However, I definitely should have pressured Vere instead of Tearable on D1, that post I pointed out in that quote was weird as fuck lol.

 

[Chuggernaut]

That was an idea I had but couldn't incorporate it

Run two seemingly separate games of mafia.

Put a Illuminati in both of them.

Midway through the game the two universes have an inclusions and the two Illuminati’s have to play an event game. Have it be possible for both teams to win the event. If your Illuminati wins you’re safe, but if you’re Illuminati loses every player in the Illuminati’s game dies

 

[Stantastic]

Jesus, took longer to catch up here than the game thread lol

 

[Stantastic]

Run two seemingly separate games of mafia.

Put a Illuminati in both of them.

Midway through the game the two universes have an inclusions and the two Illuminati’s have to play an event game. Have it be possible for both teams to win the event. If your Illuminati wins you’re safe, but if you’re Illuminati loses every player in the Illuminati’s game dies

Dude.
We should do this, theme it around 616 and ultimate universes

 

[Geno]

Run two seemingly separate games of mafia.

Put a Illuminati in both of them.

Midway through the game the two universes have an inclusions and the two Illuminati’s have to play an event game. Have it be possible for both teams to win the event. If your Illuminati wins you’re safe, but if you’re Illuminati loses every player in the Illuminati’s game dies

That's a good idea but how will they allow you to run 2 games at the same time lol

 

[Stantastic]

That's a good idea but how will they allow you to run 2 games at the same time lol

Who says he has to run both games?

 

[Chuggernaut]

That's a good idea but how will they allow you to run 2 games at the same time lol

You don’t even need to run both. Have two different game runners that just coordinated that specific part of the game lol

 

[lokiduck]

You don’t even need to run both. Have two different game runners that just coordinated that specific part of the game lol

And to throw off expectations, they can be for games completely unrelated to Marvel and Illuminati stuff.

Bonus points it's something silly like Care Bears Mafia.

 

[lokiduck]

Oh good Sneeks is asking how Brazil is a robot XD

 

[lokiduck]

She is also questioning Muffin how he new he would specifically be a "Mod confirmed town" with that exact wording in illum chat.

 

[lokiduck]

Good on Sneeks getting her info on Muffin's failed attempt on Zeke n5. I think he tried to use that to make us scum read Zeke more.

 

[Stantastic]

wont lie, all these half lies and "you just have to trust me" is SUPER fitting of the Illuminati lol

 

[lokiduck]

wont lie, all these half lies and "you just have to trust me" is SUPER fitting of the Illuminati lol

It's what happens when we have a gag order preventing us from talking about it. XD Geno told us we couldn't confirm only "speculate"

I honestly wish people had interrogated me more about it because whooo boy was I going to have fun dodging those questions with "What the fuck are you even talking about that's bananas" and "Why would anyone want to be part of super secret global organization anyways? They seem lame as hell."

 

[lokiduck]

Brazil End votes:

Possible: Jedah. Pretty much ignored the Maol talk. :/

Muffin’s End Votes:

Possible: Jedah. Possible FoL but unlikely, semi early on Swamped.

LOL

 

[Chuggernaut]

Neeks, you’re going to need to sit down and watch Cowboy Bebop after this game.

And also we need to get back to working on Hamilton mafia

 

[Stantastic]

Sneeks is laying down the law and i am so here for it

 

[lokiduck]

From all of this I've got a couple things.


First off....

It can't be AB.

AB can't be Jedah unless they had dual Item Stealers or he simply copied whatever Wee did. This is impossible since Wee was RB'd on Night 1 (when he hit Muffin). ((or when did he steal/what did he steal and from whom. the list above is not 100% clear but i may be reading it wrong))

He can't be FoL since that would give them 2 Item Steals. On top of that, FoL's item stealer died N1 so he couldn't have faked it.


Brazil's power IS real since Muffin both copied it and other's confirmed their chats. Brazil isn't FoL since he tunneled Swamped HARD but he could be Jedah. Unsure how to make sense of a Jedah Chat maker/spy though.


Muffin has contradictions. He is possible Jedah as well since his Swamped vote was pretty early on her. He is a copier though his power has odd limitations (could copy a cyborg dog, not Rick).


Cat could only be FoL. Las Plagas cure on the Plagas team makes no sense and her avoidance of Swamped is clear.


Therefore:

FoL: Cat

Jedah: Brazil or Muffin

This is a beautiful post except for thinking Cat is FoL but as long as she votes out Muffin or Brazil

*Chef Kiss* Please vote out Muffin though.

 

[lokiduck]

Lol just realized my post count is also going to explode because Vere and i are back to working on our mafia game ideas getting one ready for review while we wait on another. XD

 

[lokiduck]

Addition to this: Muffin got infected with Las Plagas on like...N3 or N4. Considering infection meant RB do we think Jedah would gambit and infect their own? If not then Muffin could not be Jedah.

Come on Sneeks. Put the last puzzle pieces together... Connect the dots and destroy these suckers.

 

[lokiduck]

Mind you even if they get one then Natiko has to take care of the other OR Brazil needs to die to Galeem but if she makes an convincing argument, the rest of town will def agree with her.

 

[Aeleus]

Talking about outermafia chat woes I was looking through a previous spectator chat out of boredom and I saw that Loki had changed her avatar, which she had no reason to do if she was telling the truth about her role. I tried to ignore it as it was out of game but I was so paranoid until you flipped.

 

[lokiduck]

Sneeks: I looked a the data and it can't be ABs.
Brazil: Yeah well I think it can be ABs.
Sneeks: ???

 

[lokiduck]

Talking about outermafia chat woes I was looking through a previous spectator chat out of boredom and I saw that Loki had changed her avatar, which she had no reason to do if she was telling the truth about her role. I tried to ignore it as it was out of game but I was so paranoid until you flipped.

???

I changed my avatar to Cap because I was announced as Cap and it's been like this since I got the role PM. How could I be lying about my role when it reps when I'm claiming to be? XD

 

[lokiduck]

Since I was a confirmed townie I decided to rep my actual character instead of the one I used for SU which was just a random character I quite in enjoy but wasn't.

 

[Yuta]

If Brazil convinces Saw here, than that's the game.

 

[lokiduck]

If Brazil convinces Saw here, than that's the game.

I'm not sure he's going to though. She seems pretty committed to the idea that either Brazil or Muffin or scum, she's just figuring out which is the better bet.

 

[Yuta]

It could go either way, I can even imagine a Saw double vote preventing a muffin lunch tbh

Re Muffin's play
He definitely played a great game, but he rode that green check hard and got away with scummy stuff because of that. Stu had good reasons to go after him.
And furthermore his night kills weren't really optimal. He was blocked N2. He chose Zipped, Zeke, Loki, Natiko's bp and now VA. Why zipped? The motivator could be doubted later. Zeke was after him, but still a mislynch candidate. BP was oversight on his part.
I think only strong killing Loki was a good kill, VA should have happened way earlier.