Scooby Doo 2: Mafia Unleashed - This time there are costumes!

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Hyde Monster

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Yeah, I've been pretty sure this day was going to end with Ghost Bear gone ever since he chimed in with that contradictory statement earlier. I doubt scum would be too eager to defend him in this spot, instead probably hoping to just push an alternate wagon. That became a lot harder with the masons claim, and thus you get a quiet EOD.

if bear is scum, this is 100% what happened
 

Hyde Monster

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if yall shift the vote off ghost bear now ill be your disappointed mother who saw that you didnt clean your room despite telling you 300 times god mom sorry i have no cleaning equipment sorry im a grown hyde monster now ugh
 

San Franpsycho

Costume Account (She/Her)
if yall shift the vote off ghost bear now ill be your disappointed mother who saw that you didnt clean your room despite telling you 300 times god mom sorry i have no cleaning equipment sorry im a grown hyde monster now ugh
Is it close? I'm just doing vanity shit , I can swap lol
 

BooBeard

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I can 100% guarantee you Town can't kill me day 3 if they tried.

now might be your best chance to Day kill me.
krabswat.jpg
 

Gnome

Costume Account (He/Him)
if yall shift the vote off ghost bear now ill be your disappointed mother who saw that you didnt clean your room despite telling you 300 times god mom sorry i have no cleaning equipment sorry im a grown hyde monster now ugh

Look I’ve always wanted to be in one of those last minute town swerves where we nail scum okay
 

Alien

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Not that half of the post. The other half of the post. I don't care who you think is under the masks. Talk to me about your reads.
Okay sure I'll type something up. I'll typer something more in depth for day 3 start but for now I'll just split into 3 broad groups.

People I feel broadly good about

San
Pazzo
Snack
Cat
Lighting
Kook
Yourself
Tech

People I'm largely undecided on

Gnome
BooBeard
Wax and Hyde (based solely on the Masons claim)

People I feel broadly bad about

CCG
both Snows
Stan
Yaga
Bear
Woodsman
Skunk
 

Gnome

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Vote: Ghost Bear

But yeah, we can come back to Lightning, because I do think he’s less overtly town than usual
 
[He/Him] Ghost Bear - UTC(12 votes)
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard|Captain - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Creature - UTC
[She/Her] Spooky Space Kook|Kook - UTC
[He/Him] BooBeard - UTC
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Ghost - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan|Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Neon Phantom|Neon - UTC
[They/Them] Hyde Monster - UTC
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Pazzo the Ghost Clown|Pazzo - UTC
[He/Him] Gnome - UTC
[She/Her] Spooky Space Kook|Kook - UTC
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC(2 votes)
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC
[He/Him] Wax Phantom - UTC
[He/Him] Woodsman - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[She/Her] Spooky Space Kook|Kook - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Creature - UTC(2 votes)
[She/Her] Spooky Space Kook|Kook - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Wax Phantom - UTC(1 vote)
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC
[He/Him] Alien - UTC
[He/Him] Pazzo the Ghost Clown|Pazzo - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Ghost - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Neon Phantom|Neon - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan|Stan - UTC(1 vote)
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Gnome - UTC
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC
[He/Him] BooBeard - UTC(1 vote)
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan|Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Ghost Bear - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC(1 vote)
[He/Him] Gnome - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC(0 votes)
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard|Captain - UTC(0 votes)
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan|Stan - UTC
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC(0 votes)
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Ghost - UTC(0 votes)
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[They/Them] Hyde Monster - UTC(0 votes)
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Gnome - UTC
[He/Him] Technicolor Phantom|Tech - UTC
 

Ghost Bear has died!
You are Ghost Bear: your true identity is Cookie, aligned with The Bad Guys (TOWN)

The party invite said smart casual so you brought your finest monster costume and nothing else, you are Vanilla Town

You have no special power or ability but can still vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Night 2 Ends in:
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Night actions are due 2 hours before the start of the next Day.
 

RetroMG

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Snow Ghost and Snow Creature are keeping watch, while several of their cohort catch up on zzz
Snow Creature: So, uh... What made you choose to base your monster disguise around the snow?
Snow Ghost: There was a pre-existing legend about a ghost yeti, I wanted to take advantage of that.
Snow Creature: So you chose it entirely for practical reasons?
Snow Ghost: Of course. The costume was just part of the job.
Snow Creature: Cool, cool.
There is an awkward pause

Snow Ghost: Why did you decide to dress up as a snow monster?
Snow Creature:
Well I've always had a connection to the snow, in fact before I was caught I was a pro snowboarder, went by the name avalanche ander-
Technicolor Phantom walks into the room, blood staining his vanilla white costume
Snow Creature: What the! Are you ok?! Quick Snow Ghost wake the others, I'll go and help him!
Snow Creature rushes to help the Vanilla Technicolor Phantom
Snow Ghost: Thank god, couldn't take much more of that.

Technicolor Phantom has died!
You are the Technicolor Phantom: your true identity is Sammy the Shrimp, aligned with The Bad Guys (TOWN)

You're not afraid to get your hands dirty, though you'd like to have a polite chat first, you are the Weak Gossip Vigilante

Each day you can use the command Gossip: <Player> to create a gossip chat for you and your target the following the night, if the target is non-town you will die when the chat is locked.

There is one way to avoid this fate, if you post the command BOO! YOU'RE DEAD! in the gossip chat you will instead kill your gossip buddy, once you post this command there is no way to take it back and once it has been used you can no longer create gossip threads.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Day 3 Begins

Day 3 Ends:
g6y1yquymv


Majority is 10

Vote spreadsheet:
 

Baba Yaga

Costume Account (He/Him)
Alright, we got nothing.
After some football yesterday and some sunbathing today I feel refreshed, but I'll be tired by day start for sure, so have my pretyped thoughts sorted into neat spoiler sections, because it is a lot and I already think it's clogging the thread, but have fun:
I'm still of the opinion that the Anthos lynch D1 was bad. I don't want to get on your nerves or make you all feel bad about it.
I want you to take a look at how it came to be, the movement, who defended the other contestants.

The arguments in favour of Anthos boiled down to: "he was as good as anyone" and "he only talked about himself". So why did he happen, when those arguments were applicable to at least half the game? Who jumped ship, who tried to protect others?

In the last hours of D1 we have Sans as a big voice in favour of Boo! She was deflecting arguments and defending Boo hard. This was a definite choice in order save Boo. If Boo flips scum, Sans is a million percent scum too. No ifs, scum wouldn'ts or buts. DON'T FORGET THIS.

She continued to act this way D2, dragging out an argument with me into the ridiculousness. She continuely and willingly ignored my main point, trying to look above it all, trying to make my argument sound petty. All of you can read what I accused her of and what she tried to make it look like.
No, she did never acknowledge Boo's emotional cry at day end before I called her out. This attention to how Boo acted and the incapability of defending this behaviour made her try to belittle me.

Why did you go all in on Boo, Sans?

It is a huge point that shows how Sans tries to manipulate and omit facts when she wants certain things done. You all have to acknowledge that Sans is doing her thing, manipulating, influencing, shading people to her liking. And she never has to show accountability for it, because everyone else ignores this behaviour or doesn't want to see it.

Look @San Franpsycho, we all know your town play ain't the best of yours. You tend to get voted out or zero in on the wrong people (shout-out to f).
Why can't you, for once, act in good faith and try to work with people to figure things out. You won't find the whole scum team on your own. It's D3. Come out with your theory and the connections you see and drop the act. Who do you really want to look at and why?
(and yes the joke was pretty good, I laughed)

For everyone else: need another example? go read D2. Which trains were talked through and who brought them up? Remember Snow Creature, looks like Sans throw shade their first, only to distance herself and then bring him back up at day end - this isn't towny behaviour. She also brought up Stan, but I could see something else behind this move.

TL;DR:
Sans is shady, her behaviour is ambivalent at best and you ought not to forget how she's spinning the wheel.
I'm torn on @Scooby Snack Monster. Looks fine, is contributing, yet didn't discuss as many people as I thought. Main dislike is the late attack against me of course, which he never brought up in the 47 hours beforehand.

Mind you, the quotes are from day start and we had all the time in the world to discuss it, but... hell you even responded at the time but never voiced your suspicion nor tried to find out about my point of view. So that leaves a bad taste.
I don't know why, but I tentatively have Sans' town read in the back of my mind here (despite my doubts about Sans). Can't townread SSM, so I can't shelve his slot, but I think there is enough to not look into him today.
So let's come back to my pet peeve Geno. Buddy, I thought you'd recognize a friend and try to cooperate for once, but alas you do your scum!shtick of "you only want to twist my words, I'm not talking to you". We've had this exact same conversation before. You were scum then. You are scum now.

Town Geno isn't this lazy dude who refuses to look at anyone but his first gut read. Town Geno doesn't claim last minute with no chance to react. But you know who does this? Scum Geno. Scum Geno doesn't want to give out reads or draw connections. Scum Geno implodes and throws shit at the wall, screaming at town how dumb they are and he would do anything that let's him scrape by the day. I've been there with him, I've seen that before. I'm not going to let loose on this one here.
And be ready everyone there are a few more steps he has to go through until we get a "full" claim. That one he will willynilly adjust as he needs to. Just wait for it.

@Char Gar Gothakon is scum.
There is a nagging doubt that @Cat Creature has me fooled. I've been bamboozled by him before, but most of the time this was balanced out by the rest of town. If he's scum we will catch him on connections, I'm certain of this. He's more than capable to survive the first few phases without any suspicion, faking reads and so on but for now I would not look in this direction.
His play so far feels good, I've already said I'm feeling his vibe and the votes he's purrsuing. Depending on the flips we'll see how he holds up.
@Hyde Monster and @Wax Phantom are fine for now. I was feeling the Hyde votes and would've gone there too, the claim is good enough to leave them be. Hyde tried to step it up already. I'd appreciate if you, Wax, would give us your view on the game.

I have the same problem in every bigger game. I tend to blank out on portions of the player base and do not view the whole board. In particular I've not taken note of @Pazzo the Ghost Clown, @Spooky Space Kook and @Gnome, who all on their own had a presence and I feel like I should have a read on them, but I don't. If I have the time I will look into these.

The rest all have a lingering scent to them, that makes me sort them one way or the other, but it is more often than not a gut decision based on their play or coloured by other reads.

Alien's D1 offer is diametrically opposed to my view of Boo. It is easy enough to gain town points with this action, which makes me suspicious of @Alien. But to be fair I didn't pay attention to what he did D2, because I was occupied elsewhere.

I fail to see the townieness that some see in @Lightning (mostly based on meta?). I saw a few jabs, but not a lot of deduction (yet?). Null read

@BooBeard remains suspicious in my mind. Rereading his D2, he pushed Ghost Bear, gave a read list which is nice and started to get into the game. D2 leaves a null, but I can't get over D1.
@Woodsman is where it gets interesting, because he gave hard coasting vibes yesterday. His stance towards the D1 Skunkbeard votes was wishywashy. He has taken a stance towards D2 votes at least. He doesn't have much of a presence, but there are some feel reads dropped on him, which could turn out to be valuable later (see alien (sus), snow creature (scummy), could've sworn Sans dropped a line too, neon phantom (good)...

wait just found inconsistency in cat's read (sorry, I couldn't prepare the quotes correctly)

Quote: "woodsman is an interesting one, ill fully disclose that i think i know who it is after the iso, and im probably meta reading here, but id say im not feeling too bad about his d1."

Quote later: "woodsman and snow creature feel like they trended up for me today so they wound up kind of in the middle too."

How did he trend up and only land at bottom #8, when he wasn't too bad beforehand? @Cat Creature - sounds like you forgot your first posts and made something up in the second.

Anyone else seeing something here?

Furthermore Woodsman tried to talk with Char after Char went on the infantile charade. Woodsman was rather cautious, even when he disagreed. At that point Snow Creature and BooBeard also picked up the discussion with Char, something to keep in mind.

I think Woodsman need to be looked at.
I completely missed that @The Ghost of Stealin Stan had a quarrel with Sans about Boo. No wonder Sans steered discussion in this direction. WTF. I wasn't paying attention at all. This is another instance of Sans defending Boo and shading anyone who even so much as dares to look in this direction. Moreover Stan conceded his Boo read, and got (light!) flag for it from Gnome.
I joined the Stan vote because I thought a third wagon could lead to more movement and that the spot could be scum hiding. I didn't pay attention to anything you wrote D2 at the time Stan, sorry.
Argh, I'm feeling a bit tired. All this makes me feel worse about Sans again, but I'm also in a stage where I doubt everything. Stan could be scum, could be town. I don't know at this point.
This leaves the snows. Skunkbeard, who isn't playing. Neon and Tech.

I definitely won't manage to look at you more closely today. From memory @Snow Ghost seemed to be not as involved in the game and pretty happy to stay out of spotlight. @Snow Creature reacted to some pressure and is more involved now, still a null.

I hardly recall the two phantoms. @Neon Phantom was more present, and asking questions, but would have to look over him.
@Technicolor Phantom is almost a non entity in my mind, could be coasting scum.

@Captain Skunkbeard took the frustrated route, and I seem to believe him. I think we wouldn't get much info going there today. If you aren't having fun, you should consider to sub out. But I thik we all would be more than happy to see join the fray.

So do I have a tl:dr?

Don't let Sans do whatever she wants, watch her.
Snack is okay today.
Char is scum.
Cat looked fine, but not sure now.
Masons are alright.
No read on Pazzo, Kook or Gnome.
Alien mostly unknown, not trusting the sacrifice.
Lightning null.
Boo is hard to decide on, D1 sus.
Woodsman needs to be looked at.
Stan hits my points, but still I don't trust him.
Snow G, Snow C, Neon and Tech are nulls, with Snow G most sus followed by Tech.
Captain needs fun not frustration.
 

Baba Yaga

Costume Account (He/Him)
So that overview took far too long and I won't be doing that again. Things to do for Baba to actually move the game along: analyze votes with flips. analyze d2 vote movement/train hopping. I should be around tomorrow.

Also I just wanted to say, I'm having fun and I hope that everyone else is enjoying the game as well. No attack or argument is meant to be personally and I never want to hurt anyone. If you feel that I crossed a line, please talk with me or write Aeleus so they can mediate. Peace!
 

BooBeard

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This is very cool, thanks for this.
 

Spooky Space Kook

Costume Account (She/Her)
I'm surprised they aimed for Technicolor there over the Masons, but I wonder if Technicolor pulled scum into a chat and spooked them. I have a reads list like 95% done, need to reread over 2 more people, but I want to ask about this real quick :

I can 100% guarantee you Town can't kill me day 3 if they tried.

now might be your best chance to Day kill me.

What is this? Right after a self vote?
 

BooBeard

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Well Ghost Bear was not scum unfortunately, merely an inattentive townie who was not interested in actually playing the game. With so many people on the wagon, it was definitely not a pure vote.

I’m going to start with Skunkbeard. As I mentioned in post #1117, the Captain has been hard to read. They haven’t made a lot of moves. I also mentioned that I don’t think Skunk would be bussing Ghost Bear. Ghost Bear has proven to not be scum, which puts the Captain under further suspicion. They actually started both of the wagons that resulted in an elimination so far, being the first to vote for Anthos Day 1 and Ghost Bear Day 2:
Vote: Anthos
Vote: Ghost Bear
Skunkbeard is currently a prime suspect based on this, but I don’t feel quite strongly enough to put down a vote just yet, mainly as a result of their inactivity. It doesn't seem like they are playing the game, so if they're frustrated and want to sub out I get it. It is possible they are a townie and got very unlucky with starting two separate wagons that eliminated town. I need to hear more from them. @Captain Skunkbeard do you have any reads that you would like to share?
 

Baba Yaga

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Tech is typical low info key.
Any gossiper who wants to speak up?
If not anyone who has the time go look for crumbs, maybe we are lucky.
Also no info gained on the main votes D1, D2 with this flip.
 

Alien

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Don't let Sans do whatever she wants, watch her.
I've been down this road before of scum players that post a hell of a lot, make a lot of seemingly good posts and dominate the game because of it.

There's 2 or 3 players right now I'm looking at that could potentially fill this role. Sans being one of them.

If things continue to develop where these clearly 'strong town voices' continue to survive night after night I'll be making noises about it.
 

Cat Creature

Costume Account (She/Her)
i wont be around to play more til later tonight, but just thought i should get this in here now at least

i was doused last night, so we probably have an arsonist running around

meow
 

Pazzo the Ghost Clown

Costume Account (He/Him)
Anyone want to claim the chat with Technicolor? Could help pin down if that was a targeted kill or not. If no one claims it then it was either targeted AND scum were pulled in or the weak modifier took Tech out. Don't have time yet but someone will go look for crumbs before I can get around to it.
 

Char Gar Gothakon

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So let's come back to my pet peeve Geno. Buddy, I thought you'd recognize a friend and try to cooperate for once, but alas you do your scum!shtick of "you only want to twist my words, I'm not talking to you". We've had this exact same conversation before. You were scum then. You are scum now.

Town Geno isn't this lazy dude who refuses to look at anyone but his first gut read. Town Geno doesn't claim last minute with no chance to react. But you know who does this? Scum Geno. Scum Geno doesn't want to give out reads or draw connections. Scum Geno implodes and throws shit at the wall, screaming at town how dumb they are and he would do anything that let's him scrape by the day. I've been there with him, I've seen that before. I'm not going to let loose on this one here.
And be ready everyone there are a few more steps he has to go through until we get a "full" claim. That one he will willynilly adjust as he needs to. Just wait for it.
I know who you are, but I'm not going to out you like you did with me, what a dumb move, even if half of the roster knows who I am, why out me like that? Anyway Town Geno isn't lazy? Look how much I played in the last game, town Geno doesn't claim last minute neither as scum nor town, I challenge you to provide an example as scum where I have done that. Scum Geno always gives out reads. Town Geno also throws shit at the wall, check Bumble King or Berserk or probably others I'm forgetting. You're dead wrong on your guess.
 

Snow Ghost

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Don't see much in Tech's posts, this could be a crumb but it is by no means certain:

Definitely casting some side eye on those who want to relitigate Boo.

Boo N1? Whereas to whom he chatted with last night, I saw nothing in his posts. Logically, could be that he went for Captain since that's who he suspected the most but that's just a semi-wild guess.
 

BooBeard

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Well see if Im wrong but I am like 95% Ghost bear is town.
This is weird and I want to talk about it. If he is scum and he knew how the flip would go, he could be trying to get townie cred for a really good “read”.
sure.

Vote:Lightning Strikes
I can 100% guarantee you Town can't kill me day 3 if they tried.

now might be your best chance to Day kill me.
If he is town this is a ludicrously ballsy play. I’d like to see what others with more experience think. Can anyone chime in? Based on what I do know of jman, I could genuinely see him doing this in earnest as town. There’s always the possibility it is not the real jman but a RP, but I am choosing to believe he is telling the truth about that point. I'm sticking with a null read for now, I don't think this means much at all, but I was taken aback and I'd like some perspective.
 

San Franpsycho

Costume Account (She/Her)
Best thing is for night one gossip to come forward, see if any clues were there. I actually read a little overnight, try not to be shocked, but I have to finish up work here first.
 

Spooky Space Kook

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This is weird and I want to talk about it. If he is scum and he knew how the flip would go, he could be trying to get townie cred for a really good “read”.


If he is town this is a ludicrously ballsy play. I’d like to see what others with more experience think. Can anyone chime in? Based on what I do know of jman, I could genuinely see him doing this in earnest as town. There’s always the possibility it is not the real jman but a RP, but I am choosing to believe he is telling the truth about that point. I'm sticking with a null read for now, I don't think this means much at all, but I was taken aback and I'd like some perspective.

It's fairly odd in general, but with the possibility of people being doused it could just be a sign of people about to go up in flames
 

Snow Ghost

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From memory @Snow Ghost seemed to be not as involved in the game and pretty happy to stay out of spotlight.

I don't disagree, that's a good read. I can see my play looking like that. The reality of course is that I have no idea what I am doing and no time, so I compensate for my lack of everything with funnies. But you have no way of knowing that so sucks to be me.
 

Lightning Strikes

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Arsonist makes a lot of sense i was beginning to wonder why we have only gotten 1 kill per night when a game this large usually has neutral killing roles.

roles like Technicolor which is a Vig and The arsonist would account for these 1 kill nights.

Well Ghost Bear was not scum unfortunately, merely an inattentive townie who was not interested in actually playing the game. With so many people on the wagon, it was definitely not a pure vote.
Yeah I wanna take a look at the bear votes and try yo see which looks the most opportunistic .
This is weird and I want to talk about it. If he is scum and he knew how the flip would go, he could be trying to get townie cred for a really good “read”.
I was Not trying to get credit I was trying to flip the vote to any other player besides Bear because it was Obvious to me he was Town.

Voting for myself was part of trying to Get Votes off bear and save him if I could.

Worst case scenario even if I am wrong and Bear is actually Scum. in that scenario maybe Scum would be incentive to try and kill me?

neither scenario worked happened as it was weak bait.

Plan was always a Long shot but better to try something then Let a town member just Die #NoRegrets
 

San Franpsycho

Costume Account (She/Her)
Okay, I have a little time now. We have an arsonist? I didn't get anything and I'm honestly kind of offended :P Cat isn't a very good target either, you have to pick someone who is less obviously town lol
 

Hyde Monster

Costume Account (They/Them)
I haven't been doused.

No reason to doubt Char's claim to be the Gossip target N1 at this time.

Wax hasn't posted anything in the mason chat last night.

Baba Yaga's big opening post feels slightly off - i've seen scum prepare big blob posts of "look at how productive I am" when they know they won't be killed during the night (reasonably).
 

Spooky Space Kook

Costume Account (She/Her)
Reads list here in the usual order of people I feel the best about at the top and worst at the bottom, anyone in the middleish area can be interchanged pretty easily

[He/Him] Wax Phantom - UTC & [They/Them] Hyde Monster - UTC
[He/Him] Alien - UTC
[He/Him] BooBeard - UTC
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[He/Him] Pazzo the Ghost Clown|Pazzo - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard|Captain - UTC
[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Neon Phantom|Neon - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan|Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Ghost - UTC
[He/Him] Gnome - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC
[He/Him] Woodsman - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC


The big ones at the bottom worth talking about are Woodsman, Lightning, and Baba Yaga. I had Lightning low after the self-vote + taunt at EoD, but the potential Arson only makes me feel worse. I have woodsman towards the bottom mainly because I feel like all of their posts feel very calm and calculated. I don't feel like I'm reading a town member trying to solve as much as someone trying to give that perception. I don't see backtracking, or confusion and it makes me wonder if their thoughts are going somewhere else as well.

I feel a bit better about Baba Yaga after seeing their opening post today, but I wrote this last night so I'll still put how I felt at the time. Baba Yaga has some conflict here and there with other players, but at the end of day 2, Baba ended up on a stan vote on their own while they've only mentioned Stan 2 times before today, and those are both here

While I still don't like Sans' posturing regarding Boo, pressure on Stan is warranted.


I think I don't want Char gone today. His uncooperative obtrusiveness seems too all over the place.

Yep, current votes don't leave me with a good feeling. Ghost Bear almost uncontested, he himself doesn't care. Some Wax voters aren't trustworthy enough. I'll join here for now, most probably not my final vote

Vote: Stan

And frankly, I don't understand why Baba wouldn't try to make a case for someone they were scum reading over someone that they haven't really mentioned or interacted with. So, it felt off to me.

The Day 3 explanation of the vote being to create a train to see movement is okay, but not having read anything from Day 2, I really can't grasp why Stan was the pick at the moment.
 

Lightning Strikes

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Dang, you're all just bouncing from one quiet person to another! We can't get any exciting reactions out of this!
I think Kooky may have a point hear in the sense that it might not be best to keep chasing these quiet players that are getting us owhere so far.

Our vote today should be on the most active Suspect perso. at least at the start of the day.
We’re close to turbo so I’ll avoid putting a vote down, but I’m on Ghost Bear in spirit
I wonder why exactly did your vote end up on me Yesterday?
 

San Franpsycho

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I think Kooky may have a point hear in the sense that it might not be best to keep chasing these quiet players that are getting us owhere so far.

Our vote today should be on the most active Suspect perso. at least at the start of the day.
It's correct to not just focus on activity at this point, yeah, then you followed it up by a suggestion that we focus on activity lol
 

Spooky Space Kook

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Hey Spooky Kook, what took you from soft defending Char yesterday to voting him?

I wanted to see reactions, both from Char and anyone who might want to defend him. I didn't really have any intention of voting him out, but Bear wasn't showing up so I wanted to see if we could get any extra info
 

San Franpsycho

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I said dont focus on Low activity because they will give us nothing useful when pressured.

Reading comprehension was not there for you in this moment.
And then you said the highest activity person of the group suspects. That's not a POV of someone actually trying to figure out the game lol
 

Lightning Strikes

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Reads list here in the usual order of people I feel the best about at the top and worst at the bottom, anyone in the middleish area can be interchanged pretty easily
It's funny that I am nodding me head No at your post about me yet Nodding Yes for the post about Woodsman.

You really think scum me would make so much instead of taking an easy Vote. I was Being town read by most yesterday If i was scum I would want to keep itb that way. However I am town and willing to sacrifice my Reputation to try and save Ghost bear.

I really Feel similar about Woodsman whenever He posted the post Looked good but ultimately lead nowhere.

I wanted to start by looking at people on the bear vote but not sure who.

VoteWoodsman

@Woodsman how are you feeling about the last 2 hours of yesterday until now?
 

Snow Creature

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I can be here for this one post then I'm off to bed.

I have a list of people I want to do a reread for tomorrow since I think there has to be scum in some of the mid-level posters. That being: Stan, Kook, Baba, Gnome, Neon, and Woodsman.

Skunk doesn't look great for the reasons Boo said, but with so little to go on, it's hard to tell. I'll try to articulate those thoughts tomorrow.

A lot of stuff
Thanks for that Baba, I had a look and I'll mull over it. I'm worried Sans is pulling the wool over our eyes as well, but I'll have to do my own reread.

What I want is for Skunk to give us something. I know your post said you were struggling, but @Captain Skunkbeard it'd be great if you could give some reads and your thoughts on the game.

And @Char Gar Gothakon yesterday you said your only read was Wax. With the mason reveal, do you still feel this way? Ready to give any other reads yet?

With that, I'll see you all tomorrow.
 

Lightning Strikes

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highest activity person of the group suspects. That's not a POV of someone actually trying to figure out the game lol
The fuck? How is voting for the most suspect person omongst pople who have a higher votecount not trying to solve?

I did not say vote any ransom High vote count I am literally talking about your own personal top scum suspects.

Like what are you even trying to say to me.
 

San Franpsycho

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After rereading day end, I came out with a hard town read on Neon. Neon was in there chasing alien, focused and asking questions in a way that scum would have no reason to fake at that point. Neon can be town.
 

Gnome

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I wonder why exactly did your vote end up on me Yesterday?

You were being weird about the Ghost Bear vote. Thought you were scum that knew how he was going to flip, so you could do this whole “I told you so” act tomorrow. I think I was wrong about that though.
 

Lightning Strikes

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That's not a POV of someone actually trying to figure out the game lol
Like Why the Fuck would I be breaking down how we are doing if I was not trying to solve.

I may be a shitty Player but at least Im fucking trying.

Do you know how stressful this shit is. Like You dont have to Insult me because you dont like how I am playing
 

Lightning Strikes

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Im sitting on my Floor through my back out playing on my alternate PC because I want to do my best to play a stronger game . But iM nOT TrYINg to SolVe.
 

Spooky Space Kook

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It's funny that I am nodding me head No at your post about me yet Nodding Yes for the post about Woodsman.

You really think scum me would make so much instead of taking an easy Vote. I was Being town read by most yesterday If i was scum I would want to keep itb that way. However I am town and willing to sacrifice my Reputation to try and save Ghost bear.

I really Feel similar about Woodsman whenever He posted the post Looked good but ultimately lead nowhere.

I wanted to start by looking at people on the bear vote but not sure who.

VoteWoodsman

@Woodsman how are you feeling about the last 2 hours of yesterday until now?

You can't mention an arson or a cult around me without me getting a little jumpy!
 

San Franpsycho

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Here's what I came out of day end thinking: Char and Kook look bad together. Kook doesn't scumread Char, votes for "reactions" around someone she doesn't scumread and comes away with Char in townreads after a vote she admits was never read. Now she says she didn't come out of it with a read but again she has him in the town part of her list.

tbh I thought this was a partner thing but if Char was n1 gossip partner that doesn't seem to be the case. I still think it's a bad look, just not a partner look.

Do you know how stressful this shit is. Like You dont have to Insult me because you dont like how I am playing
It's not an insult, it's me saying your post looked like scum. Posts are going to get reads, it happens. At this point of course we can look past activity. We have two days of people talking and making connections. we don't need to look at activity in the suspect lists at all in terms of numbers and focus on who has highest activity, we just need to move on from activity period.
 

Spooky Space Kook

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Here's what I came out of day end thinking: Char and Kook look bad together. Kook doesn't scumread Char, votes for "reactions" around someone she doesn't scumread and comes away with Char in townreads after a vote she admits was never read. Now she says she didn't come out of it with a read but again she has him in the town part of her list.

tbh I thought this was a partner thing but if Char was n1 gossip partner that doesn't seem to be the case. I still think it's a bad look, just not a partner look.

To be fair, while I'm not scum reading Char all of my actual scum reads have ended up flipping town. Unless someone is 100% confirmed town I'm still going to poke and prod to see what happens
 

San Franpsycho

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I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying that what you did looks like nothing. You didn't learn his identity from anything you did, you didn't pursue anything. You went from asking why someone would want to pressure Char to saying there were reasonable arguments against him to this post, the only one after your vote. I understanding townreading Char now after the Tech kill. But after this why did you? There was nothing at day end that made Char look particularly good and nothing until he claimed gossip target. So going from this post to "yeah he's town" is sus tbh.
This feels almost overly defensive when Ghost Bear is 3 votes ahead of you and only 2 away from being hammered
 

Spooky Space Kook

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I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying that what you did looks like nothing. You didn't learn his identity from anything you did, you didn't pursue anything. You went from asking why someone would want to pressure Char to saying there were reasonable arguments against him to this post, the only one after your vote. I understanding townreading Char now after the Tech kill. But after this why did you? There was nothing at day end that made Char look particularly good and nothing until he claimed gossip target. So going from this post to "yeah he's town" is sus tbh.

I don't think Char looked good there to be honest. I feel like town get mildly annoyed in their defenses while scum tend to go louder, but people said it was normal for Char so it kind of bounced him back up to looking closer at that interaction if any of the people stating that this makes him town speak up. It didn't give a lot of information, or much at all really at the moment, but I wanted something more than what we were getting from Bear who just never came back
 

Scooby Snack Monster

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I believe char, but would be curious if there is a n2 Tech target who can come forward. maybe they haven't checked in yet.

reads are mostly unchanged, but was curious if sans had talked about gnome at all. these two players have history, so probably worth keeping sans in mind going forward. not sure i'd look there yet until much later though, since it is still early in the game and not had much time to turn attention to gnome.

need to reread others for interactions with gnome.
 
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