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EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Good reading in this spec thread. I didn't exactly play well this game, but in my defense figuring out games with a tailor is really really tough as town. It's more about being along for the ride.

My biggest mistake was defending Fanto too hard. Honestly it wasn't really coming from a towny perspective. I just like neutrals and was sad that the cult all died.

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Technically, there was no tailor
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Good reading in this spec thread. I didn't exactly play well this game, but in my defense figuring out games with a tailor is really really tough as town. It's more about being along for the ride.

My biggest mistake was defending Fanto too hard. Honestly it wasn't really coming from a towny perspective. I just like neutrals and was sad that the cult all died.

Ah I think you all played great, these massive bastard games are overwhelming, like you said you're along for the ride to a degree haha we yolo'ed every day on the thought we probably wouldn't make it.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Ah I think you all played great, these massive bastard games are overwhelming, like you said you're along for the ride to a degree haha we yolo'ed every day on the thought we probably wouldn't make it.
you thought you were getting NK every night like you were rando
 
Good reading in this spec thread. I didn't exactly play well this game, but in my defense figuring out games with a tailor is really really tough as town. It's more about being along for the ride.

My biggest mistake was defending Fanto too hard. Honestly it wasn't really coming from a towny perspective. I just like neutrals and was sad that the cult all died.
I remember when I was neutral in my first ever game and scum Hawthorn had the pitch forks out :angry:
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Good reading in this spec thread. I didn't exactly play well this game, but in my defense figuring out games with a tailor is really really tough as town. It's more about being along for the ride.

My biggest mistake was defending Fanto too hard. Honestly it wasn't really coming from a towny perspective. I just like neutrals and was sad that the cult all died.
I had fun with ya Haw!

Getting bullied by Chuggs and such
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I remember when I was neutral in my first ever game and scum Hawthorn had the pitch forks out :angry:

I tried to save you, ATP! I was begging Geno in our scum thread to let you live, even though he was totally right that it was best strategy for us to offer you up to town as a sacrificial lamb. I just love neutrals.

I had fun with ya Haw!

Getting bullied by Chuggs and such

I had fun too pardner! This game would have been completely exhausting without our thread to let off steam in. Thanks for coming along on the ride with me!
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I think the issue is that Melon doesn't know who the other scum team is, and Zipped is out here acting sketch. It's a townie sketch that clearly shows he's not teamed, but I don't know if they hit that conclusion
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
On the claim thing, we did talk about claiming neighbours or something else but we figured scum would probably figure it out considering our characters are married in the game
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Idk if it was the cult persona but damn, this post.
Me getting converted certainly influenced that post (and my D2 as a whole), but I wasn't really putting up a show. Scum might shoot me no matter what I do; I am either a good enough of a townie to kill or a fine low info kill. Can't control that, so I wanted to control the one thing I may be able to, town. If I am genuine enough of a scum hunter, town might give me a few days, even if I need to start lying about the issue of missing soup. I ended up not giving a damn about any long-term issues and just focused on the then and there, saying things that came to my mind, hoping that it all looks confident and that confidence in turn looks like town.

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Somewhat curious that the game got this far, but I kind of stopped running the mental math about game state a few phases ago. I guess all those TOTALLY TOWN flips made this seem more dire for town than it really was. Speaks volumes about the strength of such misleading powers, though whether or not they've actually mattered in this game, I couldn't really tell right now. I guess melon got this far partially because the second team, full of SUPER TOWNIES, is still nothing but a theory?
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Me getting converted certainly influenced that post (and my D2 as a whole), but I wasn't really putting up a show. Scum might shoot me no matter what I do; I am either a good enough of a townie to kill or a fine low info kill. Can't control that, so I wanted to control the one thing I may be able to, town. If I am genuine enough of a scum hunter, town might give me a few days, even if I need to start lying about the issue of missing soup. I ended up not giving a damn about any long-term issues and just focused on the then and there, saying things that came to my mind, hoping that it all looks confident and that confidence in turn looks like town.

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Somewhat curious that the game got this far, but I kind of stopped running the mental math about game state a few phases ago. I guess all those TOTALLY TOWN flips made this seem more dire for town than it really was. Speaks volumes about the strength of such misleading powers, though whether or not they've actually mattered in this game, I couldn't really tell right now. I guess melon got this far partially because the second team, full of SUPER TOWNIES, is still nothing but a theory?
Yeah if we knew about the other scum team I think we would've flipped Melon
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Any town who votes Zipped today gets a side-eye. Wiz may have gone off the rails but he was so wildly towny regardless.
Not a lot of people try and go against consensus at EoG and those that do are slapped back. It feels like momentum is how these past few misvotes have been stacking. That's probably part of the reason Bojack got got, he hmmed a few too many times.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Side-eye for all of them.
Both players obviously in their own worlds. Even if he was scum, he’s clearly not teamed with anyone else.

But I’m sitting on the sidelines chilling so obvs my POV is different. I just don’t find anything scummy about Wizzipped, not when Leo and Kopite are right there. But they’ve handled this well.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Ok, I see where I was wrong in thinking Melon wins with Final 5. She needed mafia's pm to say the "50% of the vote and nothing can stop it " to get the chance to kill tonight right?
 

Neki

Bought a book once
Melon should convince Stan to get out Kopite or Leo at this point. Seems like the only way to win.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Hope they vote out Kop, both scum kills land on the same target and final 3 is Melon/Leo/Town. I want to see if the scum teams try to win together or not.

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Neki

Bought a book once
and as we established Melon is scum reading Zipped as well so :ghostblush:
Melon should know better. Stan and Zipped can't be teamed and there is two scum left so Melon should know that at the very least Zipped is partnered with Kopite/Leo!
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Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Yeah I think the other scum team have this. Melon did have a town to scum list on Friday with Leo as most scummy and wanted Stan and Zipped as their final three so I thought this might go our way but the thread is dead and everyone seems to be leaning Zipped. Whoever takes this, it's a seriously good win though and I don't blame anyone for getting this deep and wavering on their reads.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Kop's posts just last day phase before voting Bo.
- I think there's at least 2 scum in our vanillas and have agreed we need to vote there. You(Bo) and leo I think are more likely to be scum than Stan, and even if you flip scum I'm likely going Leo next.

I’m just waiting to hear from nin . I think both are good flips, and no matter what the alignment the other is still a high priority the day after. In fact just in case I fall asleep let me tie it up, and nin can hammer his choice since the rest of us have had a say.
Vote: Bo

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So the good news is we don't have 3 scum, or at least not 3 aligned scum. I think we've got to go Leo, and if he flips scum Stan looks a bit worse. But Zippedpinhead I can't completely ignore you either, who else do you suspect? There's got to be scum between you/melon and Stan too.

Assuming everyone's aware of the votes, there aren't 2 scummates between myself, Stan and melon because there would've been a hammer otherwise. It kinda doesn't bode well for either of you.

Someone(Would have to be Zipped at this point. ) should point out Kop's hesitancy to vote out Leo, which was a flip from yesterday. Also sliding in Zipped as a vote option when he wanted to only look at vanillas yesterday for bo.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
This is it lol if Melon doesn't come back with a strong read/push/appeal to Stan on Leo (agree with Zeke there's good reasons to look at Kop but seems like Zipped or Leo is the vote today), the games over.
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
Melon was so close
Yeah :( it's crushing to see, she did super well here.

Also let this be a lesson for the future: If you're suck with a neighbor chat at the start, just be open. Maybe you'll be the link the other scum team and can align the 2 together for a mutual win!
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Ah fuck she's voted Leo. I don't think Stan's gonna go for that though lol I think he needs receipts
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Kop feeling the pressure.........so close to victory. I wish Zipped was present in the thread to point out how odd his behavior is.
Why do you want stan's vote so bad?

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Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
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Damn lmao congrats to Dutch's gang. They ran the marathon, well done. Proud of Melon here though, they made it the game this close. Obviously as a townie I'm disappointed
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
To be fair looking back, this wincon was a big mistake, game should've continued until 1 scum team eliminates the other.
I completely agree (since we had a BP left lmao).

More seriously, hindsight is 50/50, this was a great game to be in and spec either way
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
To be fair looking back, this wincon was a big mistake, game should've continued until 1 scum team eliminates the other.
Yea, it shouldve had the "control 50% of the vote OR nothing can stop it from happening" part on there.
Looking at old PMs, it seems old mafai win cons were "You win when the Mafia controls a majority of the votes at day start." Maybe goin back to that would help?
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Dangnoraa Mafia from earlier this year had the: "You will win the game when the Blackened control 50% or more of the votes or nothing can prevent this from occurring."
I think that should probably be standard.
 
Yeah it's mb, I think it was discussed at the end there and I gave my ok not having read it properly due to having limited time.
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
Been watching the endgame from the sideline and I'm totally biased since I've been team melon since full spoilers but my dumb board games rules lawyer brain thinks there should be a night phase since there's no way to control 50% of the vote at night. Prob just a phrasing disagreement tho.
Justice for the Pinkertons ;_;
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Yeah it's mb, I think it was discussed at the end there and I gave my ok not having read it properly due to having limited time.
It's a pretty situational oversight so I wouldn't stress yourselves over it. It just so happened that we hit the perfect storm of Melon having her BP and other scum team reaching maj at day end. Like said above, we can just account for it in the future.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Yeah it's mb, I think it was discussed at the end there and I gave my ok not having read it properly due to having limited time.
No biggie. Looking at past pms I've gotten, looks like a good number of my mafia aligned games just had the (50% of votes) thing, so looks like that's the standard. Think we can just discuss changing that in the future for all games goin forward. That same problem could arise if there was a serial killer. Even if Melon didnt have the BP, maybe Mafia dont try to kill her, and she kills one of them, etc.
 
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