Game Thread Power Rangers Mafia | The Community Park Where All the Monster Fights Happen

[Yellow Ranger]

There are multiple voting for me over that vote, and some others voicing suspicion. Why wouldn't I explain that vote? And it was an early game prod vote to see what would happen. Go back and look at the first hour of votes again, and tell me what reactions people are expecting to get to jump off of for their Day 1 votes. And then tell me what's different about the goals in my vote?

I can’t necessarily speak to Skull’s issue with your justification, but i can add more to why I find it odd. If your vote/unvote had simply been a prod on a player who hadn’t really been present, i doubt i would have batted an eye at it at this stage of the game. However I find the explanation you provided to be odd namely the part where you wanted to see his reaction to you quickly unvoting. Goldar at that point had had effectively no presence in the game. You say that one of the possibilities would be them slipping into the background, but there really wasn’t much further for them to slip into than they already were so I question whether or not that it’s likely that you were considering that when you unvoted.

the crux for me is that had it been just a simple prod and an unvote when they appeared, it would have been pretty NAI and nothing to really note much for me. but when called out on it, it feels like you tried to give a justification for the situation that’s a real stretch in order to make yourself look better in retrospect. But the actual vote and unvote and the language you used in them read like your average D1 prod to me, which helps make the justification seem contrived as I mentioned earlier.

 

[Kimberly]

There are multiple voting for me over that vote, and some others voicing suspicion. Why wouldn't I explain that vote? And it was an early game prod vote to see what would happen. Go back and look at the first hour of votes again, and tell me what reactions people are expecting to get to jump off of for their Day 1 votes. And then tell me what's different about the goals in my vote?

Also, you guys should try to stick to the pronouns in the first post.

I think the issue is the fact that it appeared to be a prod vote and your unvote seemed to confirm that but then your justification made it seem like there was a grander scheme going on in your head. (Saying that you wanted a reaction from the unvote and then explaining why Goldar still seemed scummy even though you had just unvoted).

Seems like you were keeping your options open so that you could resort back to a Goldar vote if you needed to. And I’m afraid that comes off as a little scummy.

On that note:

Vote: Tommy

 

[Kimberly]

Also I’m sorry if I’ve tangled your pronouns at any point. Genuine mistake. Sorry

 

[Skull]

I can’t necessarily speak to Skull’s issue with your justification, but i can add more to why I find it odd. If your vote/unvote had simply been a prod on a player who hadn’t really been present, i doubt i would have batted an eye at it at this stage of the game. However I find the explanation you provided to be odd namely the part where you wanted to see his reaction to you quickly unvoting. Goldar at that point had had effectively no presence in the game. You say that one of the possibilities would be them slipping into the background, but there really wasn’t much further for them to slip into than they already were so I question whether or not that it’s likely that you were considering that when you unvoted.

the crux for me is that had it been just a simple prod and an unvote when they appeared, it would have been pretty NAI and nothing to really note much for me. but when called out on it, it feels like you tried to give a justification for the situation that’s a real stretch in order to make yourself look better in retrospect. But the actual vote and unvote and the language you used in them read like your average D1 prod to me, which helps make the justification seem contrived as I mentioned earlier.

I think the issue is the fact that it appeared to be a prod vote and your unvote seemed to confirm that but then your justification made it seem like there was a grander scheme going on in your head. (Saying that you wanted a reaction from the unvote and then explaining why Goldar still seemed scummy even though you had just unvoted).

Seems like you were keeping your options open so that you could resort back to a Goldar vote if you needed to. And I’m afraid that comes off as a little scummy.

On that note:

Vote: Tommy

Both posts ring true to what I was thinking as well. The interactions with Goldar, the prod vote and the quick unvote itself were pretty innocuous, and that’s why it’s the justification that came off as scum trying to save face, coming up with a made up play for reactions that didn’t pan out instead of just a plain unvote.

 

[Skull]

I’m also sorry for messing up the pronouns as well. Will pay more attention to it going forward.

 

[White Ranger]

Not much activity during the night.

Vote: Blue Ranger

I have already said why before.

Some reads about the players everyone is talking right now:

- Tommy: lean scum. I don't find the quick unvote weird. It was a prod vote, the player replied and they unvoted. I have seen inexperienced townies do that before. My problem is with the justification: the part where they claimed that they unvoted quickly to see Goldar reaction was bullshit. It tried to make the prod vote as something more important. Tommy barely had any opinion on the thread. All their posts are full of nothing. I wouldn't mind if they are lynched today.

- Goldar: Goldar made a late start and was over aggressive. To me is NAI. Most of his post lack actual content in them and the OMGUS vote he did, unvoting and then asking someone else to make an OMGUS vote for him is weird. Light scum read. Wouldn't mind if he gets lynched today but nowhere close as other players.

Also Trini calling it a fight when they were barely talking doesn't feel good to me. Like she tried to make that little exchange as more relevant that it was and boost their presence in the game. They both needed that.

 

[Skull]

Will post more in a bit. But right now I’m voting for either Tommy or Jason.

Surprised Jason’s not getting flak. He did nothing so far.

 

[White Ranger]

This Bulk post is really bad:

I think we should be applying more pressure. Having votes scattered like this is pretty easy. I tried to vote Jason partly in an effort to have at least a vote leader and partly because of his super weird mason suggestion, but I'd now explicitly put forward the suggestion that maybe having all these votes scattered isn't the greatest.

Trying to consolidate votes 24 hours before day 1 end? Makes no sense.

 

[White Ranger]

Will post more in a bit. But right now I’m voting for either Tommy or Jason.

Surprised Jason’s not getting flak. He did nothing so far.

Agree about Jason. Barely here, most of his posts were related to Rita's list, when he was called out he deflected it instead of actually answering and made that weird theory about masons.

 

[Tommy]

I can’t necessarily speak to Skull’s issue with your justification, but i can add more to why I find it odd. If your vote/unvote had simply been a prod on a player who hadn’t really been present, i doubt i would have batted an eye at it at this stage of the game. However I find the explanation you provided to be odd namely the part where you wanted to see his reaction to you quickly unvoting. Goldar at that point had had effectively no presence in the game. You say that one of the possibilities would be them slipping into the background, but there really wasn’t much further for them to slip into than they already were so I question whether or not that it’s likely that you were considering that when you unvoted.

the crux for me is that had it been just a simple prod and an unvote when they appeared, it would have been pretty NAI and nothing to really note much for me. but when called out on it, it feels like you tried to give a justification for the situation that’s a real stretch in order to make yourself look better in retrospect. But the actual vote and unvote and the language you used in them read like your average D1 prod to me, which helps make the justification seem contrived as I mentioned earlier.

I think the issue is the fact that it appeared to be a prod vote and your unvote seemed to confirm that but then your justification made it seem like there was a grander scheme going on in your head. (Saying that you wanted a reaction from the unvote and then explaining why Goldar still seemed scummy even though you had just unvoted).

Seems like you were keeping your options open so that you could resort back to a Goldar vote if you needed to. And I’m afraid that comes off as a little scummy.

On that note:

Vote: Tommy

You guys are being pretty ridiculous about this whole thing. If I just put a vote down on someone because they aren't here, and then removed it when they showed up, and that was the entirety of the plan, that is a huge waste of time and would be completely pointless. Of course I had some kind of plan with that in mind, because that's the entire point of Day 1. To test reactions to pretty basic stuff and see how you feel about it afterwards.

Apparently, I just shouldn't answer questions that people ask me since that makes me look like scum somehow.

 

[Tommy]

So right now there is conflict between Tommy and Goldar. That makes either of their flips potentially more valuable than just voting for someone at random.

Granted that doesn't mean either of them is mafia, but I think for right now:

Vote: Tommy

If you think that's conflict to put a prod vote down and test the waters on a reaction, then there's a lot more conflict in this game than you're giving credit to. This is a massive stretch, especially for the point in time you made this vote.

lol

piggybacking off everyone else's reads at the moment with two posts one of which is useless

lol

vote: tommy

die scum...

Yeah, his singular post that he made after I took my vote off was a very safe one. He only talked about the points that other people had recently brought up in an attempt to deflect away from himself. He brought up my vote on him, which he seems to have waited to do until someone else mentioned it so it didn't look as OMGUS. On top of that, he immediately jumps into the camp of people saying that the town leader label is suspicious and proceeds to try and throw more in there on Black Ranger. And then afterwards, he proceeds to just throw a little tantrum and say it was all according to plan. I don't like the way that he's handled any of this.

 

[Skull]

Wouldn’t vote for:

Pink Ranger - Seems knowledgeable about the mechanics and what logic pitfalls we should avoid. Made good posts throughout the Day about most topics.

Yellow Ranger - Few posts in the game so far, but still very consise in them. I find myself agreeing with them a lot. Not necessarily a town read yet, but still interesting to keep around.

Rita - Very flavory and meme’d posts, but surprisingly little bullshit. She’s pretty direct about her opinions and reads and is confident in them, making it blatantly clear what she is thinking, which is hard to keep up for a long time if you’re scum.
Curious about her reads on Jason.

Goldar - Need to hear more from him, but my initial impression of pissed off townie stands so far.

 

[Skull]

I’m surprised that I scum read two players already at D1.

Like I previously said, felt kinda neutral on Tommy, until the fallback after being called on the unvote. Don’t like his responses on that topic, but not much to go for at the rest of his posts.

Jason doesn’t seem to care much. Reflected a bunch when questioned at the beginning and didn’t offer anything of value so far. Had the thought that it could be nervous town, but right now leaning on failed scum lurker.

Want to hear more from both today, since I think my vote will be here.

 

[Trini]

does not think Tommy is mafia but votes Tommy
immediately says other people are doing the same thing, does not vote them

Largely because I can't be confident anyone is mafia on D1 (no information), and you know I can only vote for one person.

 

[Goldar]

Tommy, mafia is a game of consensus, and you can't agree with someone without piggybacking.

You were so eager to vote and then unvote, but all I've done (according to you) is raise your suspicion, yet there's no vote there. Afraid it would look like piggybacking?

 

[Tommy]

Right, so I've been reading back over the thread, and there's a lot of people that I just flat out need to hear more from:


2. [f] @Billy - Hard to get a read on because her posts amount to a lot of nothing. She offered to give us a read list at some point, but really only managed to tell us that she was pro-lynching today and that was pretty much it
17. [They/Them] @Yellow Ranger - I don't really understand Yellow Ranger's playstyle at all right now, and they're still under the post limit. The Jason vote doesn't feel all that solid, but that's all they've really shown.
7. [m] @Green Ranger - A whole lot of nothing. There's no real substance to anything and then a prod vote on Yellow after people had already talked about moving past the people that inactive
8. [m] @Jason - His conclusions are weird, and he's been weirdly silent since he hit the 10 post count. Assuming that Bulk and Skull are masons was really out there, and past that he really only called out Rita's read list for leaving off people

The people that I wouldn't vote for today are Rita, Zordon, and Pink Ranger. I still need to reread over Black and Blue though.

 

[Tommy]

Tommy, mafia is a game of consensus, and you can't agree with someone without piggybacking.

You were so eager to vote and then unvote, but all I've done (according to you) is raise your suspicion, yet there's no vote there. Afraid it would look like piggybacking?

Yep, there's no vote there because there's a crapload of people I want to know more about first. We'll see though, my vote might still end up on you by the end of the day.

 

[Tommy]

The yep wasn't to the piggybacking comment by the way. It's just a general "Yeah, there's no vote there yet"

 

[Zordon]

A few things before I dig in further~

For D1 that's about the only real level of conflict you'll get. There seems to be a bigger beef between Zach and Pink Ranger though.

I keep coming back to this post in sheer amazement because look around, there's conflict everywhere. Maybe people should stop making assumptions about this game, about scum, about conflict, about day one because the removal of meta has led to all sorts of new behaviors we don't usually see in games and these assumptions are troubling in that they create blind spots for town... or... they provide a really good cover for scum to handwave inconsistencies away.

 

[Zordon]

I can’t necessarily speak to Skull’s issue with your justification, but i can add more to why I find it odd. If your vote/unvote had simply been a prod on a player who hadn’t really been present, i doubt i would have batted an eye at it at this stage of the game. However I find the explanation you provided to be odd namely the part where you wanted to see his reaction to you quickly unvoting. Goldar at that point had had effectively no presence in the game. You say that one of the possibilities would be them slipping into the background, but there really wasn’t much further for them to slip into than they already were so I question whether or not that it’s likely that you were considering that when you unvoted.

the crux for me is that had it been just a simple prod and an unvote when they appeared, it would have been pretty NAI and nothing to really note much for me. but when called out on it, it feels like you tried to give a justification for the situation that’s a real stretch in order to make yourself look better in retrospect. But the actual vote and unvote and the language you used in them read like your average D1 prod to me, which helps make the justification seem contrived as I mentioned earlier.

I'm starting to think Yellow is just repetitive and that makes me feel a little better about them actually? This post says the same thing twice essentially but at least it's a good explanation and I think on point about the issue with Tommy's tactic that went nowhere. Tommy voted as a "prod," unvoted for nothing, and then explained what they wanted to get before they got it which is such a waste of several posts.

I think the issue is the fact that it appeared to be a prod vote and your unvote seemed to confirm that but then your justification made it seem like there was a grander scheme going on in your head. (Saying that you wanted a reaction from the unvote and then explaining why Goldar still seemed scummy even though you had just unvoted).

Seems like you were keeping your options open so that you could resort back to a Goldar vote if you needed to. And I’m afraid that comes off as a little scummy.

On that note:

Vote: Tommy

like Kimberly nails it here I think.

You guys are being pretty ridiculous about this whole thing. If I just put a vote down on someone because they aren't here, and then removed it when they showed up, and that was the entirety of the plan, that is a huge waste of time and would be completely pointless. Of course I had some kind of plan with that in mind, because that's the entire point of Day 1. To test reactions to pretty basic stuff and see how you feel about it afterwards.

Apparently, I just shouldn't answer questions that people ask me since that makes me look like scum somehow.

So what is it you feel then at this point? You put your whole scheme out into the open so what is this like some Inception levels of schemelayering, with another scheme underneath? Please tell us ridiculous proles what wisdom you have gleaned here.

 

[Zordon]

Tommy, mafia is a game of consensus, and you can't agree with someone without piggybacking.

You were so eager to vote and then unvote, but all I've done (according to you) is raise your suspicion, yet there's no vote there. Afraid it would look like piggybacking?

i don't understand this post at all
Please explain why you can't agree without piggybacking if you're also saying we all have to agree because mafia

 

[Zordon]

Largely because I can't be confident anyone is mafia on D1 (no information), and you know I can only vote for one person.

You can only vote for one but when you focus on one and then say other people are doing the same thing but harder, that looks suspicious to me.

 

[Tommy]

So what is it you feel then at this point? You put your whole scheme out into the open so what is this like some Inception levels of schemelayering, with another scheme underneath? Please tell us ridiculous proles what wisdom you have gleaned here.

The plan was to see how he would react, and we've all seen how he reacted afterwards. I've even explained why I don't like the way he's been handling things since then. I'm not sure how you guys think I'm going to nail scum 100% or anything like that with this plan, but this was the same as all the other prod votes. Just something to get a little information.

 

[Tommy]

And I didn't explain anything until after Goldar had already responded. I would have preferred if people had waited for Goldar to respond before calling it out in any way so that it would just be his reaction on its own, but there's not much I can do about that

 

[Zordon]

The plan was to see how he would react, and we've all seen how he reacted afterwards. I've even explained why I don't like the way he's been handling things since then. I'm not sure how you guys think I'm going to nail scum 100% or anything like that with this plan, but this was the same as all the other prod votes. Just something to get a little information.

And I didn't explain anything until after Goldar had already responded. I would have preferred if people had waited for Goldar to respond before calling it out in any way so that it would just be his reaction on its own, but there's not much I can do about that

No, Tommy, my person, this was not the same as all the other prod votes and that is exactly what all the posts are about. You didn't prod anything. Like a cartoon villain, you laid a scheme and revealed it immediately and now I can only guess you aren't really reading what anyone is saying because you are so interested in doubling down and insisting that your cartoon villain plan was right

And now! you're blaming everyone else when you didn't have to explain anything at all. That was your choice.

The garbage thing is I town read this kind of behavior~

 

[Tommy]

No, Tommy, my person, this was not the same as all the other prod votes and that is exactly what all the posts are about. You didn't prod anything. Like a cartoon villain, you laid a scheme and revealed it immediately and now I can only guess you aren't really reading what anyone is saying because you are so interested in doubling down and insisting that your cartoon villain plan was right

And now! you're blaming everyone else when you didn't have to explain anything at all. That was your choice.

The garbage thing is I town read this kind of behavior~

Think what you want. I've said about everything I can about it at this point

 

[Zordon]

Zordon does not need your permission to sit and consider things, Tommy. Zordon can do this on his own.

 

[Goldar]

I'm just saying it's hard to have original, independent thoughts without having them misconstrued as piggybacking.

 

[Black Ranger]

I'll be honest, if Tommy gets lynched and is scum, I'll be rather shocked. I'm town reading him now due to this page. Not even sure why, I should still be null on him but his responses here is making me town read him.

 

[Skull]

I'm mulling about the Blue and White debacle. The reactions to the joke D1 votes are easier to read into, especially with our costumes on, so White's annoyance got my attention at first.
Things escalated quite a bit and now White settled his vote on Blue alluding to links between 2 other players, which seems really premature. Day 1 is hardly the moment to look for connections between players, so many WIFOMS to get through. I'm interesed in hearing more about this.

Honestly, it looks like town eating itself. Will reread though to see if I lost anything worth noting.

 

[Zordon]

People I would not vote today for strong contributions and engagement~
1. Pink Ranger - my top town read at the moment for thoughtful posts and an unwillingness to back down. Pink is trying to make stuff happen.
2. Kimberly - similar reasons. Though less of a presence, Kimberly is pushing questions and making good observations.
3. Red Ranger - does not have a huge presence but posts have good pushes on people. Really hope to see more from Red Ranger at end of day or tomorrow.
4. Zack - Also a strong townread for me for some strong aggressive posts and a willingness to dig into what's happening in the thread.


People I would not vote today for other reasons~
1. Rita Repulsa - I'm worried Rita could be scum hiding in plain sight since only some posts are game related and it feels like she might get into tunnel territory with some people but she's also entertaining so for today at least, would not vote
2. Black Ranger - I have gone back and forth on Black Ranger. Town read with some concern. I don't like the conclusions Black Ranger has drawn or how he has approached the thread in some cases, but I don't know that I see scum motivation behind his posts. An oddly defensive edge. Someone to watch but not someone to vote today.
3. Tommy - admitted gutread but that dumb pseudo gambit has town written all over it in permanent marker


Looking at the bare minimum posters~

1. Billy's 11 posts this phase all appear in one chunk and do not relate to much of anything. Mechanics and over arching game talk, the merits of read lists, and then silence. No promised reads yet. No other interaction, which would probably be even more useful. Who observes from afar and constructs a read list without actually engaging in the game? Well, if she even gives us the readlist that is.

2. Jason's posts are at least a little more spread about and engage somewhat in the thread and with people and situations. We can get some kind of judgment from them but I'm not sure how well they reflect anything particularly useful. Would put Jason marginally above Billy but it's a thin margin.

3. Yellow Ranger has only six posts which is not very many for someone who is repetitive. Something about them is pinging me and this is a slot I want to watch at day end for any reasonable activity at all. The posts are full of hedging and

4. Goldar is all over the place with lots of self defense.

Everyone just above this threshold - like fewer than 20 posts, say - Alpha 5, Trini, Green Ranger, Finster - has plenty of interactions so even though they are "lower" there's lots to analyze and some of them I even have more impressions on than higher posters. Example: can anyone believe Blue Ranger is one of the highest posters?? I don't remember anything except the random debacle.

I will spend the rest of the day looking into the people not mentioned here but I have to get back to work now. But I want to leave a fresh vote.

vote: Billy
Promises need to be followed up on.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I wanted to actually make a good post to come with today but I'm all over the place with this game.

I like Rita and I like Black Ranger. I don't like Yellow Ranger. But then is in line with post count which makes me think that is a weak as fuck read.

Also when I am skimming the thread I get easily mixed up with the ranger and their color. Was that Billy or Blue who made that point??? so I am not exactly piecing this together very well.

I'll probably move my vote off Trini, but not sure where to yet. Jason, maybe.

 

[Zordon]

Pink, if Yellow makes post count but keeps this thin content would you consider voting there?

I also don’t think Trini is a bad vote. Not Jason either. What do you think about Blue?

 

[Pink Ranger]

OK @Zordon we have mind melded.

I don't have the Red Ranger read and I am not as down on Goldar but otherwise we seem to be reading the game exactly the same.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Pink, if Yellow makes post count but keeps this thin content would you consider voting there?

I also don’t think Trini is a bad vote. Not Jason either. What do you think about Blue?

I would consider Yellow. Their opening is very nervous and then they have picked around the Goldar thing. I could see that being mafia.

 

[Goldar]

Finster has done a whole lot of nothing the past few pages besides a vote that made no sense.

 

[Finster]

Finster has done a whole lot of nothing the past few pages besides a vote that made no sense.

Made no sense because it was on you? I explained myself, you were overly defensive and none of your other posts have made me feel better about you.

Disagree with my vote if you want but it makes enough sense for me to place and keep my vote on you.

 

[Red Ranger]

Finster has done a whole lot of nothing the past few pages besides a vote that made no sense.

Maybe we should make a list of people that have a whole lot of nothing right now because I just looked over Jason and I'm seeing the same thing.

There have been a lot of little arguments today and I can see scum hiding under it all honestly.

 

[Pink Ranger]

On Blue. Their posts have all been antagonistic, creating discord. It was attack, attack.. until they got called out for their own play and immediately went defensive. Now they are digging in even further is the spat with white. I would lean Blue over White in the scum stakes.

 

[Bulk]

I'm all caught up. I think I'm keeping my vote on Jason for now, I find his silence very telling and his lack of explanations regarding his weird initial posts disappointing, but I also want to build a list of people I'd vote for and people I'd like not to vote for before the day ends and I have to settle for voting for someone else. I usually have a lot of trouble in the early game when there's so many players. So far I think I wouldn't lynch Rita or Zordon, but I'm sure there's other players that I've seen make good arguments, I just have to associate them to their names.

 

[Trini]

I think Blue would be an interesting flip. Personally I'm between him and Goldar.

 

[Trini]

Actually rereading, and I don't think Goldar is actually that interesting of a flip.

Vote: Blue Ranger

 

[Green Ranger]

People that I'd be willing to vote today would be

Bulk: Their post about putting together out votes to pressure someone isn't great. It gives scum an easy way to hope onto a train under the justification of pressure.

Jason: The way he went after Ritas feels like someone trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Maybe Blue Ranger but that's just a gut feeling since I haven't checked their posts again yet.

Still want to reread some more people as well so this could change.

 

[Red Ranger]

I wonder if we'll see Alpha 5 again by days end, could just be a time zone issue I guess.

 

[Red Ranger]

Vote: Alpha 5

 

[Pink Ranger]

People that I'd be willing to vote today would be

Bulk: Their post about putting together out votes to pressure someone isn't great. It gives scum an easy way to hope onto a train under the justification of pressure.

Jason: The way he went after Ritas feels like someone trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Maybe Blue Ranger but that's just a gut feeling since I haven't checked their posts again yet.

Still want to reread some more people as well so this could change.

Ok Bulk is voting for Jason, aren't you falling into your allegation against Bulk if you vote for Jason?

Do you think they could be partners?

 

[Bulk]

Bulk: Their post about putting together out votes to pressure someone isn't great. It gives scum an easy way to hope onto a train under the justification of pressure.

FWIW, I think we're past the part of the phase where that would've been useful. Now I would expect to see people solidify their votes and justify them (as much as it can be done on D1, anyway)

 

[Black Ranger]

==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

blue ranger (3 votes)
zack - #156
white ranger - #506
trini - #542

goldar (2 votes)
tommy - #211 #297
black ranger - #348
finster - #422

jason (2 votes)
yellow ranger - #147
bulk - #254

billy (1 votes)
zordon - #531

white ranger (1 votes)
blue ranger - #76

yellow ranger (1 votes)
green ranger - #425

green ranger (1 votes)
alpha 5 - #380

trini (1 votes)
pink ranger - #62

tommy (1 votes)
trini - #330 #542
rita repulsa - #387

zordon (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #45 #132
finster - #59 #241

alpha 5 (0 votes)
zordon - #82 #257

black ranger (0 votes)
zordon - #257 #531
goldar - #405 #439

pink ranger (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #132 #387

zack (0 votes)
black ranger - #57 #348

bulk (0 votes)
white ranger - #74 #506

skull (0 votes)
bulk - #98 #254
jason - #101 #161

Post Counts:
black ranger: 63 rita repulsa: 50 pink ranger: 36 zordon: 35 blue ranger: 30 white ranger: 28 zack: 27 red ranger: 27 kimberly: 26 skull: 25 bulk: 23 tommy: 22 trini: 17 finster: 16 green ranger: 16 goldar: 14 alpha 5: 13 billy: 11 jason: 10 yellow ranger: 6 melonrabbit: 3 sawneeks: 3

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

 

[Jason]

The more I think about the day, the more I am convinced that Rita is town having a truly fun time with the game. I was wrong about Rita at day start. Its dedication there.

Tommy and Bulk please I'm on CDT timezone. I got off work, and can follow the thread but can't play as much when I am home. For what its worth, I'm pretty sure Tommy is town. based on post #516 (thoughts on me beside). I agree with that reasoning for Yellow Ranger and Billy

My Top Town would be Pink Ranger, Zordon, Black Ranger and (begrudgingly) Rita. Scum doesn't play like how Rita is playing, and I like those other threes playstyle as well.

Next up would be people like Tommy, White Ranger, Trini, Bulk and Skull.

Everyone else I would be fine with a vote today either through Scumminess (yellow ranger, Billy), or I just can't tell yet.

 

[Black Ranger]

Just a nice reminder of where everyone is atm

 

[Zordon]

Actually rereading, and I don't think Goldar is actually that interesting of a flip.

Vote: Blue Ranger

I don't know if it's just phrasing especially since I'm suspicious on Blue too but this feelsbadman. Where's the justification for one over the other or over anyone else? The way you put it it's just about the flip. Shouldn't you care about more than JUST the flip?

 

[Bulk]

The more I think about the day, the more I am convinced that Rita is town having a truly fun time with the game. I was wrong about Rita at day start. Its dedication there.

Tommy and Bulk please I'm on CDT timezone. I got off work, and can follow the thread but can't play as much when I am home. For what its worth, I'm pretty sure Tommy is town. based on post #516 (thoughts on me beside). I agree with that reasoning for Yellow Ranger and Billy

My Top Town would be Pink Ranger, Zordon, Black Ranger and (begrudgingly) Rita. Scum doesn't play like how Rita is playing, and I like those other threes playstyle as well.

Next up would be people like Tommy, White Ranger, Trini, Bulk and Skull.

Everyone else I would be fine with a vote today either through Scumminess (yellow ranger, Billy), or I just can't tell yet.

So, mind answering my question from like 3 pages ago about clarifying your initial odd post on me? Did you skip the part of the OP that clarified role names and role actions were randomized independently from each other, or were you purposefully ignoring it for your argument's sake?

 

[Green Ranger]

Ok Bulk is voting for Jason, aren't you falling into your allegation against Bulk if you vote for Jason?

Do you think they could be partners?

I'd only say I was falling into that allegation if I did it with the intention of consolidating my vote with other people specifically to pressure Jason. Otherwise it'd just be a normal vote.

As for partners, I'm not sure. I don't think so.

 

[Zordon]

FWIW, I think we're past the part of the phase where that would've been useful. Now I would expect to see people solidify their votes and justify them (as much as it can be done on D1, anyway)

So, mind answering my question from like 3 pages ago about clarifying your initial odd post on me? Did you skip the part of the OP that clarified role names and role actions were randomized independently from each other, or were you purposefully ignoring it for your argument's sake?

These two things together feel strange to me. I agree that people should start making real votes and cases but then to turn around and fixate on what basically boils down to a mechanics push is odd. I agree Jason's been spotty on responses but that feels like such a nothing; why is it so important to you?

Also, while I'm here, does no one else care about Billy ghosting the thread after putting in about an hour of nothing? I don't know if I will be here at end of day so I have about two hours to make a strong decision and I'm torn between being frustrated that Billy is apparently going to get away with flying right at the line and being concerned with people being weirdly inconsistent, like Trini and Blue (though Trini voting for Blue is interesting).

 

[Black Ranger]

Also, while I'm here, does no one else care about Billy ghosting the thread after putting in about an hour of nothing?

Well since you bring that up, we have about 5 and a half hours until the deadline so...

Exactly. Its more a conversation about nothing, yet its at least a conversation we are having.

This is your last post Billy over 24 hours ago now.

Do you have any thoughts on today, on who you want to vote for or well... thoughts on anything?

It's pretty weird that we've seen nothing from you for over 24 hours and people have basically forgotten about you until now.

If you have anything to add, now is the time to as people are going to start putting their final votes in and all.

 

[Zordon]

I'm surprised you think I'm active here. I definitely don't feel like I am. As for my posting, I'm just struggling to get a clear opinion right now.

Considering all the hedges in your posts i guess you are still struggling? Right now your vote is still on Yellow Ranger but I see Yellow was not in your list of people you would vote today.

 

[Green Ranger]

Considering all the hedges in your posts i guess you are still struggling? Right now your vote is still on Yellow Ranger but I see Yellow was not in your list of people you would vote today.

I just haven't moved my vote yet. The hedging is because I have no strong reads on anyone. I'm not really struggling.

 

[Jason]

So, mind answering my question from like 3 pages ago about clarifying your initial odd post on me? Did you skip the part of the OP that clarified role names and role actions were randomized independently from each other, or were you purposefully ignoring it for your argument's sake?

I thought I had answered it but I just missed it.

 

[Skull]

Zordon is playing pretty aggressively huh. Interesting considering the loudest poster in the game fixated on him even before game started.

@Zack and @Trini can you guys recap the Blue Ranger vote?

 

[Blue Ranger]

On Blue. Their posts have all been antagonistic, creating discord. It was attack, attack.. until they got called out for their own play and immediately went defensive. Now they are digging in even further is the spat with white. I would lean Blue over White in the scum stakes.

What? In what history have I been primarily attacking people in my posts? I can think of one post, and that was a mild vote over White's weird one. Please show some receipts.

I think Blue would be an interesting flip. Personally I'm between him and Goldar.

...Is that all? What would you get from my flip, just curious.

 

[Bulk]

I thought I had answered it but I just missed it.

Missed what, the clarification on role distribution?

These two things together feel strange to me. I agree that people should start making real votes and cases but then to turn around and fixate on what basically boils down to a mechanics push is odd. I agree Jason's been spotty on responses but that feels like such a nothing; why is it so important to you?

Because I'm a bad D1 player who fixates on small things to justify their vote when there is very little to go on. Maybe that colors my perception, but I really do not think Jason's post was such a "nothing" but something to follow up on, specially when I received exactly 0 reasoning after asking about it.

 

[Rita Repulsa]

i just read the crystal magic ball

it tells me that white ranger is a lying liar who lies

but when i read it again asking why...

 

[Pink Ranger]

I just haven't moved my vote yet. The hedging is because I have no strong reads on anyone. I'm not really struggling.

Not having strong reads is the struggle.

I'm struggling to find a solid mafia read.

Not voting
Zordon (share reads)
Zack (the town leader thing got resolved quite well imo)
Skull (I'm successfully pocketed, gj)
Rita (Probably Town, definitely playing)
Kimberly (I'm too stubborn to put them in my town reads but not voting today)
Black (Probably Town, definitely playing)

That feels like a low amount of town reads but I think that is a solid core.

No real opinion
Bulk, Alpha 5, Billy

Kind of like but might be mafia
Tommy, Trini, Finster

Don't like but leaning town
Goldar, Red,

Scum is here
Yellow, White/Blue, Jason, Green

 

[Yellow Ranger]

Thoughts on Finster? Going a little bit beyond just “they haven’t really made an impression”. I think that is true but their actual behavior rings alarm bells on reread for me. The opening piggyback on rita’s vote is fine from a flavor perspective but you could also view it as a way to get a vote out early on while also not taking responsibility for casting the first stone. Also of note is when finster unvoted Zordon, particularly because they said they “felt better” about him. This implies they didn’t not feel as good about him earlier on, but I can’t find any sign of that in their posts. Kimberly caught on to this too and called them out on it and Finster tries to backtrack by saying that while it was a joke vote, they feel good about him “at the moment”. This reads strangely to me.

Their big conflict today was with Zack, who called Finster out for dropping’s posts with no substance. Finster responded by calling them out for doing the same thing. from where im standing, zack’s posts and finster’s posts were exceedingly different- the posts by zack that finster referred to weren’t essays by any stretch but they were still comments that called out things they thought stank, and I can respect that. Finster, on the other hand, restated Skull’s post about avoiding claiming with very little original thought put into it. This makes me really call into question finsters defensiveness here because it doesn’t take a detective to see that it doesn’t add up. Another example of a fluff post from finster would be when they mentioned that’s billys identity didn’t matter and what billy had been saying was just NAI. On its own this post doesn’t really stand out but there’s only so much NAI i can take from one player. Finsters entire game has avoided taking strong stances on anything- even when asked who’d they vote for with zordon off of the table, the best they can come up with is goldar for being inactive. Their suspicion stays on goldar as time goes on with the aggressiveness cited as the reason. considering that was a sticking point for many, this is yet another easy stance IMO.

 

[Blue Ranger]

And just to recap:

*White Ranger makes a weird post explaining his vote is random
*I call him out on why he felt the need to explain his vote was random
*I get asked to explain why I thought that was weird
*Zach thinks I'm trying the most with my vote and votes me because he thinks it's weird I find WRs post weird
*White Ranger slinks back out and OMGUS votes me
*Spends the day justifying their OMGUS which basically amounts to him thinking his post wasn't weird?

 

[Finster]

Thoughts on Finster? Going a little bit beyond just “they haven’t really made an impression”. I think that is true but their actual behavior rings alarm bells on reread for me. The opening piggyback on rita’s vote is fine from a flavor perspective but you could also view it as a way to get a vote out early on while also not taking responsibility for casting the first stone. Also of note is when finster unvoted Zordon, particularly because they said they “felt better” about him. This implies they didn’t not feel as good about him earlier on, but I can’t find any sign of that in their posts. Kimberly caught on to this too and called them out on it and Finster tries to backtrack by saying that while it was a joke vote, they feel good about him “at the moment”. This reads strangely to me.

Their big conflict today was with Zack, who called Finster out for dropping’s posts with no substance. Finster responded by calling them out for doing the same thing. from where im standing, zack’s posts and finster’s posts were exceedingly different- the posts by zack that finster referred to weren’t essays by any stretch but they were still comments that called out things they thought stank, and I can respect that. Finster, on the other hand, restated Skull’s post about avoiding claiming with very little original thought put into it. This makes me really call into question finsters defensiveness here because it doesn’t take a detective to see that it doesn’t add up. Another example of a fluff post from finster would be when they mentioned that’s billys identity didn’t matter and what billy had been saying was just NAI. On its own this post doesn’t really stand out but there’s only so much NAI i can take from one player. Finsters entire game has avoided taking strong stances on anything- even when asked who’d they vote for with zordon off of the table, the best they can come up with is goldar for being inactive. Their suspicion stays on goldar as time goes on with the aggressiveness cited as the reason. considering that was a sticking point for many, this is yet another easy stance IMO.

I don't plan on defending myself anymore as I stand by everything I've already said. If you think I'm scum, put a vote down otherwise do some more work rather than picking on what you think is an easy target (yes I understand I am an easy target but my only real scum read right now is goldar and I feel the reason for it is perfectly justified).

 

[Zordon]

Because I'm a bad D1 player who fixates on small things to justify their vote when there is very little to go on. Maybe that colors my perception, but I really do not think Jason's post was such a "nothing" but something to follow up on, specially when I received exactly 0 reasoning after asking about it.

I don't think it's bad play. There's plenty of bad play to go around today but this just didn't make sense to me with the other thing. It felt insubstantial let's say but if it matters to you, it matters to you. I just wanted to hear about it.

 

[Zordon]

DISSENSION IN RITA'S RANKS

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, WITCH

 

[Yellow Ranger]

I don't plan on defending myself anymore as I stand by everything I've already said. If you think I'm scum, put a vote down otherwise do some more work rather than picking on what you think is an easy target (yes I understand I am an easy target but my only real scum read right now is goldar and I feel the reason for it is perfectly justified).

I mean I’ll keep looking of course but I certainly think you’re a viable candidate for today and this response doesn’t really change that, although I have a feeling you know that

 

[Rita Repulsa]

Yeah, his singular post that he made after I took my vote off was a very safe one. He only talked about the points that other people had recently brought up in an attempt to deflect away from himself. He brought up my vote on him, which he seems to have waited to do until someone else mentioned it so it didn't look as OMGUS. On top of that, he immediately jumps into the camp of people saying that the town leader label is suspicious and proceeds to try and throw more in there on Black Ranger. And then afterwards, he proceeds to just throw a little tantrum and say it was all according to plan. I don't like the way that he's handled any of this.

yet you're not voting for him

why

why why why why why?

 

[Finster]

although I have a feeling you know that

How very astute of you.

 

[Blue Ranger]

These two things together feel strange to me. I agree that people should start making real votes and cases but then to turn around and fixate on what basically boils down to a mechanics push is odd. I agree Jason's been spotty on responses but that feels like such a nothing; why is it so important to you?

Also, while I'm here, does no one else care about Billy ghosting the thread after putting in about an hour of nothing? I don't know if I will be here at end of day so I have about two hours to make a strong decision and I'm torn between being frustrated that Billy is apparently going to get away with flying right at the line and being concerned with people being weirdly inconsistent, like Trini and Blue (though Trini voting for Blue is interesting).

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

 

[Rita Repulsa]

Zordon is playing pretty aggressively huh. Interesting considering the loudest poster in the game fixated on him even before game started.

@Zack and @Trini can you guys recap the Blue Ranger vote?

DEATH TO ZORDON!!!!!!!!!!

...

that might be my crystal magic ball talking

 

[Zordon]

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

Item 1: build strong cases for strong eod votes
Item 2: focus on tiny think from one billion posts ago to the exclusion of so many other things happening

I wouldn’t say by itself it’s enough to make me suspect the motivation but it’s something to note in Bulk for me.

 

[Zordon]

Though did Jason actually answer the question ever? lol

 

[Rita Repulsa]

@Tommy @Billy @Goldar @Jason @Red Ranger @Kimberly @Skull

why do you all not have votes down? there's only four hours left what is this passive aggressive non voting crap??

why

why why why why why?

 

[Bulk]

I don't think it's bad play. There's plenty of bad play to go around today but this just didn't make sense to me with the other thing. It felt insubstantial let's say but if it matters to you, it matters to you. I just wanted to hear about it.

Huh. I don't know what to make of it but this strikes me as you folding easily in response to my post. Considering how aggressively you seem to be playing the game so far I expected some sort of rebuke. Were you just prodding me for any sort of response?

Also yeah I'm not sure Jason even answered. He said he missed something just now when he was around but I'm not sure if he was referring to the question or the roles stuff (which, if that's his excuse, is not a good look IMO, it should be plainly obvious our costume names mean nothing in this game or we'd all be voting for Rita and friends).

 

[Zordon]

Huh. I don't know what to make of it but this strikes me as you folding easily in response to my post. Considering how aggressively you seem to be playing the game so far I expected some sort of rebuke. Were you just prodding me for any sort of response?

Also yeah I'm not sure Jason even answered. He said he missed something just now when he was around but I'm not sure if he was referring to the question or the roles stuff (which, if that's his excuse, is not a good look IMO, it should be plainly obvious our costume names mean nothing in this game or we'd all be voting for Rita and friends).

Just trying to get a fix on your motivation for pursuing it.

 

[Zordon]

But I also don’t feel very aggressive lol so I guess we’re all just doing the best we can.

 

[Pink Ranger]

VOTE: Jason

I don't like how distant you are from the game and how few stances you have taken. You seem like a mafia who is observing the game rather than participating.

 

[Rita Repulsa]

But I also don’t feel very aggressive lol so I guess we’re all just doing the best we can.

i wouldn't feel aggressive either if i was a floating head stuck in a jar

but i got my own moon place

 

[Jason]

Missed what, the clarification on role distribution?

Yes this exactly, I was on mobile at the time and just missed it by not paying as much attention as I should have. I'm sorry

 

[Yellow Ranger]

And just to recap:

*White Ranger makes a weird post explaining his vote is random
*I call him out on why he felt the need to explain his vote was random
*I get asked to explain why I thought that was weird
*Zach thinks I'm trying the most with my vote and votes me because he thinks it's weird I find WRs post weird
*White Ranger slinks back out and OMGUS votes me
*Spends the day justifying their OMGUS which basically amounts to him thinking his post wasn't weird?

For what it’s worth I don’t think WR’s initial post was that weird to begin with (simply NAI to me), and I don’t think their vote against you reached OMGUS levels at all- I can understand why he would be suspicious of you, because your fixation on that initial rng vote (or more specifically the wording of said vote i suppose) is honestly pretty strange. But I suppose it all comes down to how everybody feels about that first vote

 

[Zack]

Good morning/afternoon/evening, everyone. Time for some reads.

*******************************************

*** Zack's reads *** PART 1

I started the game intending to focus on townhunting, but there were so many posts by different people that made me raise my eyebrows that I ended up losing traction on that thought. Presently, I'm not comfortable enough to put down any hard townreads - at most, I have a small list of people I wouldn't vote for today (including Black, Rita, and Bulk). I can say it now people, I do not and will not trust any of you. You are all suspicious to me until the end.

With that said, here are some focused negative thoughts:

- Yellow: My gut does not feel good about them. Not directly because of their low activity, but because they've been quite one-note in focusing on chasing Tommy - and when I look at Tommy, I see more clumsiness than scumminess. There are other players I feel worse about, though.

- Finster: They've been incredibly squeamish this entire phase - not only when I accused them of making filler posts to seem busy, which they reacted to by throwing a verifiably false counter-accusation back at me, but also when Goldar (#537) and Yellow (#566, #571) pointed fingers at them. There's no scumhunting to be found in their posts. They feel like scum outraged at being the target of some suspicions on D1.

- Blue: Their initial day start-vote on White seemed like a regular joke-y day start-vote at first sight (#76), but then it escalated in the weirdest possible direction (#88, #91). Now they're trying to paint White's initial vote and posts as the weird ones, which is absurd. There's nothing weird with saying that a random vote is random on D1 start - they're either random or based on flavor by definition. What's weird is going on a tangent and saying stuff like "the difference is that you're telling us your vote is randomated, instead of it being implied" to justify their vote. Then they felt bothered by Trini giving out a positive read (#141), made this weird post apparently disagreeing with me but repeating what I'd said (#292), tried to deflect my vote by claiming I was bothered by Black's vote (#363), and tried to paint my attack of their weirdness as a defense of White's initial nothing vote (#487). Their thing against White is basically all they've to show for this phase. They also avoided commenting on my vote against them until I pointed that out to the thread, which I never see as a good sign.

- Pink: Despite the fact that our conversation came to a natural end at one point, I still feel uncomfortable with their weird post about how chasing an inactive townie made them a townie themselves (#130). I don't feel at all satisfied with their explanation of it (#334, #336), but it's not like I'll be able to get anything new out of them by pushing that discussion further. I can also see them saying they feel satisfied with the outcome over our discussion on the town leader thing as an attempt to defuse any hostility between us. I'm keeping all of this in mind.

 

[Bulk]

Yes this exactly, I was on mobile at the time and just missed it by not paying as much attention as I should have. I'm sorry

So, if you thought even for a second names and roles were correlated, what did you think about Rita + friends? Wouldn't they have been pretty obviously scum?
Just, walk me through your logic here.

 

[Zack]

*** Zack's reads *** PART 2

There is no part 2 right now.

 

[Blue Ranger]

Item 1: build strong cases for strong eod votes
Item 2: focus on tiny think from one billion posts ago to the exclusion of so many other things happening

I wouldn’t say by itself it’s enough to make me suspect the motivation but it’s something to note in Bulk for me.

Sometimes you just get sucked into a tunnel. Preferably we would be far reaching with our scum hunting but often we come across something that seems suspicious in out eyes and not in others.

For what it’s worth I don’t think WR’s initial post was that weird to begin with (simply NAI to me), and I don’t think their vote against you reached OMGUS levels at all- I can understand why he would be suspicious of you, because your fixation on that initial rng vote (or more specifically the wording of said vote i suppose) is honestly pretty strange. But I suppose it all comes down to how everybody feels about that first vote

I agree that the initial post from WR is NAI but I mean, it's not like I was shouting him down using RNG as a weapon. He asked why it was weird, Zach brought it up again, the only fixation was ever an explanation.

It honestly felt weird to me at day start, but his preoccupation with my vote on him afterwards was even weirder, like how dare I vote him for thing when others did perceived thing too. So, I disagreed.

 

[Yellow Ranger]

- Yellow: My gut does not feel good about them. Not directly because of their low activity, but because they've been quite one-note in focusing on chasing Tommy - and when I look at Tommy, I see more clumsiness than scumminess. There are other players I feel worse about, though.

Is this up to date with current posts or something you wrote earlier? I’ve only mentioned tommy in like two posts (which to be fair is a significant chunk of my overall posts), but I don’t even have a vote on them. Jason and finster are more interesting to me right now

 

[Trini]

I don't know if it's just phrasing especially since I'm suspicious on Blue too but this feelsbadman. Where's the justification for one over the other or over anyone else? The way you put it it's just about the flip. Shouldn't you care about more than JUST the flip?

I don't know why I need to keep explaining this. There isn't a particular justification for why it HAS to be Blue. It doesn't have to be Blue. It has to be someone whose flip will give some nice information for the future. Planting seeds we can harvest in the future. There's been a lot of discussion over Blue. He isn't a bad choice to vote for.

Should I care more about just the flip? Well yeah, if I could hit scum for sure I'd obviously vote for who I thought was scum. But it is D1. I don't think anyone is scum. I need information from flips to eventually piece together who scum is. I can't do that with zero information. It isn't like I believe Blue is completely town either. I'm just being realistic that I simply don't have a strong case for anyone being scum.

 

[Yellow Ranger]

I agree that the initial post from WR is NAI but I mean, it's not like I was shouting him down using RNG as a weapon. He asked why it was weird, Zach brought it up again, the only fixation was ever an explanation.

It honestly felt weird to me at day start, but his preoccupation with my vote on him afterwards was even weirder, like how dare I vote him for thing when others did perceived thing too. So, I disagreed.

I think what gets me in regards to the perceived fixation on the matter is when you start making the analogies of people calling out what animals they are. Those posts made it seem like there was a real investment on your part in regards to the wording of WRs rng vote that went beyond you just being suspicious of WRs preoccupation with your own vote

 

[Zordon]

i wouldn't feel aggressive either if i was a floating head stuck in a jar

but i got my own moon place

i hate you

braggart

So here's my dilemma: I need to settle for today and while I really want to vote for Billy it also feels like a cop out (kind of like what Billy is doing on this game). It's frustrating because I don't want to get to day 2 or 3 and still be wondering if Billy is coasting scum.

But everyone else I'm suspicious of? They are all voting for each other. I think Trini, Jason, Yellow, Green, and Blue are all shady and there's just a votefest going on in that group. Some of it could be scum dropping early votes on each other but not all. Looks like some people are coming out of the woodwork now so maybe something will sway me in a stronger direction.

 

[Finster]

Between the two top votes at this moment in time (Jason and Blue both of whom have 3 votes each) I feel like Jason is more likely to be scum though that is just a gut feeling I guess. I'm leaning town on Blue though again I'd say that is a gut feeling but I'd be surprised to see if he flipped scum.

 

[Rita Repulsa]

I'm just being realistic that I simply don't have a strong case for anyone being scum.

"oh woe is me i have no strong scum cases!!!"

Day 1 jitters. The vote is essentially random, unless some sort of pre-game power role shenanigans exist.

I'd say I'm not comfortable voting at this time, but honestly a D1 vote is never comfortable. Pink Ranger, you voted for me for not doing pre-game stuff. Fair enough.

> D1 reads
> Solid reads

pick one.

And D1 is the easiest day to fluff up your post count. It isn't particularly bold scum play, though I don't think Rita is scum at the moment.

I'm not comfortable with my D1 vote, but I will be voting. I don't believe in no lynch. Like you said, flips are everything. A sacrifice is needed.

For D1 that's about the only real level of conflict you'll get. There seems to be a bigger beef between Zach and Pink Ranger though.

Blue, we can only establish weak links on D1.

You can use that logic to tie Zach to White Ranger.

Largely because I can't be confident anyone is mafia on D1 (no information), and you know I can only vote for one person.

"oh woe is me day 1 is all jitteries and nothing strrong at all!!!"

vote: trini

save it scum. your day 1 shtick is old

 

[Black Ranger]

XD That Gif.

 

[Blue Ranger]

- Blue: Their initial day start-vote on White seemed like a regular joke-y day start-vote at first sight (#76)

Well, basically it was because I off-handedly saw something weird. It wasn't so serious that I was scum reading him.

but then it escalated in the weirdest possible direction (#88, #91).

There's no other possible direction it couldve went when asked why I thought it was weird. I would hope even joke votes have some justification, even if little, but what do you find weird about me finding his post weird?

Now they're trying to paint White's initial vote and posts as the weird ones, which is absurd. There's nothing weird with saying that a random vote is random on D1 start - they're either random or based on flavor by definition. What's weird is going on a tangent and saying stuff like "the difference is that you're telling us your vote is randomated, instead of it being implied" to justify their vote.

Well, that's only your opinion. If everyone else is saying Hi and you say Hello I'm going to notice you.

Then they felt bothered by Trini giving out a positive read (#141), made this weird post apparently disagreeing with me but repeating what I'd said (#292), tried to deflect my vote by claiming I was bothered by Black's vote (#363), and tried to paint my attack of their weirdness as a defense of White's initial nothing vote (#487).

1. Yeah, that's how I felt unless you want to police my thoughts?
2. Not really...a difference between what you said and I did is that I believe a town leader makes and directs conversation and you believe they're some omnipresent conversation barger, which sounds like busy work to me.
3. Yeah, it was. You can say my posts are weird but I can say WRs are? That's textbook defense.

Their thing against White is basically all they've to show for this phase. They also avoided commenting on my vote against them until I pointed that out to the thread, which I never see as a good sign.
.

????

There was literally nothing to your vote besides you not liking my vote against WR. It had nothing to say.

 

[Black Ranger]

Also good reminder, some people still don't have votes down and it's...

Until days end.

 

[Trini]

I mean it's not a shtick.

 

[Blue Ranger]

I think what gets me in regards to the perceived fixation on the matter is when you start making the analogies of people calling out what animals they are. Those posts made it seem like there was a real investment on your part in regards to the wording of WRs rng vote that went beyond you just being suspicious of WRs preoccupation with your own vote

Well, yeah, I like analogies since they get my point across in a fun way. They go well with just about anything.

 

[Jason]

So, if you thought even for a second names and roles were correlated, what did you think about Rita + friends? Wouldn't they have been pretty obviously scum?
Just, walk me through your logic here.

This was days ago, I knew that alignments must be randomized because like you said it wouldn't make it much of a known costume game if we knew who all the scum were. Here is what I thought about it. I am not sure why you think this is such a big deal. I was wrong and i'm ok with Skull's posting now. I'm officially dropping you down a peg from mostly town to null read. I really don't understand this tunnel.

 

[Rita Repulsa]

I mean it's not a shtick.

call it whatever you like. i hate people who play down day 1

you can score good victories against the rangers in day 1.

look at red ranger, who doesn't even have a vote down!

now THAT is a day 1 victory for evil.