Black Ranger
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RP & eccentric posts are greeeeeat ways to make people not think your scum.
just saying.
Game Thread Power Rangers Mafia | The Community Park Where All the Monster Fights Happen
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RP & eccentric posts are greeeeeat ways to make people not think your scum.
just saying.
Black Ranger
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Did I say you weren't?
*rereads post*
Nope
*rereads it under a microscope*
not at all
At least I can read I guess! Better than some folks!
Zordon
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So since @Black Ranger wouldn't/couldn't provide receipts, I went through his day 1 posts, all 98 of them. After the usual early game fluff that we all did, there were at least 15 dedicated to clarifying something or repeating something, 40+ theorizing about mafia in general and about asking questions and engage to scum hunt (without actually doing that in those posts), and a scattering of random whatevers, so that leaves between 20-30 that could be filed under "scum hunting" depending on how generous you are but since Black Ranger doesn't believe in early game readlists or whatever we aren't privy to the results of those oh so important questions he's asking people and so it's not wonder people think the posts are empty.
Most of the "scum hunting" posts are vague and don't lead to anything on the page. I would say less than 10 actually try to draw any conclusions. So actual scum hunting? uh I dunno I guess we can assume it's happening somewhere and we will see it sometime. Black Ranger says they're leading to something in his head. But that sure doesn't help town if we don't see it.
So I will offer this counter: Clogging up the thread with useless content is counter to town because it drowns out and distracts from the happenings of the game.
Most of the "scum hunting" posts are vague and don't lead to anything on the page. I would say less than 10 actually try to draw any conclusions. So actual scum hunting? uh I dunno I guess we can assume it's happening somewhere and we will see it sometime. Black Ranger says they're leading to something in his head. But that sure doesn't help town if we don't see it.
So I will offer this counter: Clogging up the thread with useless content is counter to town because it drowns out and distracts from the happenings of the game.
Black Ranger
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I'm out until tomorrow. Sure do hope some people decide to turn up and work because right now it feels like we are in
aaaannnd. now I think I know who you are.
Thanks for that.
Black Ranger
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then what the heck are you snarking about?!
Just switch your vote back to me already. I'm sure you'd find an excuse to do so after these flurry of useless posts by a useless ranger.
Sawneeks
little green dog
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
black ranger (2 votes)
rita repulsa - #857 #900
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
black ranger - #860 #1093
green ranger - #862
jason (1 votes)
trini - #999 #1001
bulk - #1018
trini (1 votes)
zordon - #893 #1034
rita repulsa - #936
green ranger (0 votes)
zordon - #1034 #1090
skull (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #900 #936
Post Counts:
black ranger: 40 rita repulsa: 32 zordon: 27 trini: 26 pink ranger: 21 skull: 20 kimberly: 19 blue ranger: 12 red ranger: 12 alpha 5: 11 billy: 8 jason: 6 white ranger: 5 green ranger: 4 zack: 3 yellow ranger: 3 bulk: 3 sawneeks: 2 melonrabbit: 2
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DAY ENDS IN:
Day Start
black ranger (2 votes)
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
green ranger - #862
jason (1 votes)
bulk - #1018
trini (1 votes)
rita repulsa - #936
green ranger (0 votes)
skull (0 votes)
Post Counts:
black ranger: 40 rita repulsa: 32 zordon: 27 trini: 26 pink ranger: 21 skull: 20 kimberly: 19 blue ranger: 12 red ranger: 12 alpha 5: 11 billy: 8 jason: 6 white ranger: 5 green ranger: 4 zack: 3 yellow ranger: 3 bulk: 3 sawneeks: 2 melonrabbit: 2
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DAY ENDS IN:
trini is still my top scum tho
i think day 1 was a scum vs town situation that took scum off guard, and that trini is the scummiest
but (AND THIS IS A SUPER IMPORTANT BUT) if trini is town and it was a town vs town situation then my reads would change somewhat (as i mentioned to trini earlier!)
Black Ranger
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I didn't change my playstyle much, I just tried to tone down my posts since that seems to annoy people and be useless and used as a tool to attack me for useless posts apparently.
Please read. I know I said it in an offhanded comment after being called out on that read but I reiterate it several times now.
1. Read Zack as scum, particularly due to the posts Finsters brought up and Zack saying that "trying too hard" was reason enough to vote for someone (blue I think) during that little Finster/Zack thing. I agreed with Finster that it wasn't a reason and that he was a hypocrite for saying it has more weight than Finster agreeing with someone else (which is perfectly fine and quite frankly it's hilariously stupid to think a one time agreement by someone is bad)
2. Zack defended himself well enough to the town leader thing despite me disagreeing with his assessment of me at that time so I went back to null on him
3. After being asked about the read, I said I wanted to wait and see more before sharing it (It was day 1 after all) but since I was asked about it, I said it was Zack. I then switched gears to Goldar and have since explained plenty how I felt about him and his posts
That's the indepth version of it and if someone asks me about that again, I'll vote for them out of spite.
Black Ranger
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Oh and before anyone calls me out for this, I didn't say anything for 2 reasons
1. Agreeing with people seem to be considered useless fluff by a number of people no matter how stupid a reason that is to call someone out on. Would also have made people think I was a scum team with Finster probably.
2. I was trying something different for me that day. I went with the idea that I'd rather clear people I don't think are scum while people I think are scum, I would interact with as little as possible with the belief that they will mess up somewhere without my intervention. I have since thrown that idea away.
Black Ranger
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Anyway I think I've explained myself enough and spent far too much time on myself. Everyone, myself and others time would be better spent on looking for actual scum and not annoyed Townies.
i don't like @Bulk right now
his day one votes were all bad. the baddest, the worst, the most terrible
especially him jumping on the goldar train after being almost all day on jason
worst of all is i dunno WHY he was on jason without reading back through all of his day one posts because the fool didn't specify why when he voted!
his day one votes were all bad. the baddest, the worst, the most terrible
especially him jumping on the goldar train after being almost all day on jason
worst of all is i dunno WHY he was on jason without reading back through all of his day one posts because the fool didn't specify why when he voted!
Red Ranger
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I don't really buy the fact that my vote is the scummiest vote either. Just some shit about me tying the vote. Sorry I'm not concerned what scum would do in a certain situation.
We had like three votes at the end of day basically just plopping a vote on Goldar void of any consequence.
trini first tho, bulk can wait.
Trini
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I don't think your vote was the scummiest, but like I said, you voted for Goldar back before he even seemed like he was capable of being lynched but when my lynch seemed very likely. I think the case I had against you then has weakened considerably.
My vote today is probably either Jason or Black Ranger. Not really liking Black Ranger's attitude. I get being annoyed by other players and accusations, but that's the game. It's hard to tell if its genuine annoyance or a strategy.
Black Ranger
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Black Ranger
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Also since we're early in the game in general, here are my gut read for scum:
Zordon
Rita
Red
Kimberly
I'm almost sure one of those are scum but outside of Red who is on peoples radars, I don't have much outside of feels.
Null on most others but I feel like Tommy and Blue are town but with Tommy being replaced, who knows how their replacement will make me feel.
Again, gut reads, nothing tangible to back it up. But if I had to give reasons: Zordon has been read as mostly townie by others (apart from Rita which also makes me suspicious that they are scum partners with Rita creating distance early on so people wouldn't think both are scum).
Rita: Her RP style with gifs aplenty seems like a great way to cover her being scum up. Also like I said, her interaction with Zordon. People might think "Townie having fun" but I think people should really be wary of it.
Red: Just his contributions overall is making me lean scummy
Kimberly: This one is actually pure gut feels. I couldn't really give a reason. I do kinda think that if Rita or Zordon are scum, she probably is as well. Just the interactions between them. Can't quite put my finger on it so it's really just #feels
Zordon
Rita
Red
Kimberly
I'm almost sure one of those are scum but outside of Red who is on peoples radars, I don't have much outside of feels.
Null on most others but I feel like Tommy and Blue are town but with Tommy being replaced, who knows how their replacement will make me feel.
Again, gut reads, nothing tangible to back it up. But if I had to give reasons: Zordon has been read as mostly townie by others (apart from Rita which also makes me suspicious that they are scum partners with Rita creating distance early on so people wouldn't think both are scum).
Rita: Her RP style with gifs aplenty seems like a great way to cover her being scum up. Also like I said, her interaction with Zordon. People might think "Townie having fun" but I think people should really be wary of it.
Red: Just his contributions overall is making me lean scummy
Kimberly: This one is actually pure gut feels. I couldn't really give a reason. I do kinda think that if Rita or Zordon are scum, she probably is as well. Just the interactions between them. Can't quite put my finger on it so it's really just #feels
he's my mortal enemy
but i don't think he's scum rn
aggressive playstyle doesn't strike me as scum
i'd reexamine him if you flipped town
Alpha 5
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At this early stage of the game, and particularly after my bad reads on Finster, I think I will focus on using the votes from day 1 as my guideline. I have a general theory: that scum are most likely on the third or fourth vote on a lynch. That is the general tipping point where pressure votes and early suspicions start to get turned into a bandwagon.
On that basis, the most suspicious votes on Goldar are the vote made by the Red Ranger and the fourth vote made soon afterwards by the Green Ranger. It was those two votes that changed the entire nature of the lynch vote. Until that point, Trini was at five votes and the Jason lynch was just beginning to fall apart. The two votes on Goldar suddenly created a new viable alternative and immediately changed the whole coversation to "Goldar vs Trini".
Completely disregarding the two player's justifications for their votes, the votes themselves raise some suspicion.
Vote: Green Ranger
I'm picking Green because he never responded to my pressure vote yesterday. I'm open to moving it to Red if the situation changes.
On that basis, the most suspicious votes on Goldar are the vote made by the Red Ranger and the fourth vote made soon afterwards by the Green Ranger. It was those two votes that changed the entire nature of the lynch vote. Until that point, Trini was at five votes and the Jason lynch was just beginning to fall apart. The two votes on Goldar suddenly created a new viable alternative and immediately changed the whole coversation to "Goldar vs Trini".
Completely disregarding the two player's justifications for their votes, the votes themselves raise some suspicion.
Vote: Green Ranger
I'm picking Green because he never responded to my pressure vote yesterday. I'm open to moving it to Red if the situation changes.
Black Ranger
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Do you suspect him for any reason other than this? It's just the first thing (about being the 3rd/4th vote) is pretty much just a guess so not counting that as a reason and this reason does feel weak. Understandable since it feels like he avoided it I guess but weak on it's own.
So any other reasons at the moment or just that?
Alpha 5
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The reason that I was trying to put pressure on the Green Ranger before is because I don't really think he has been doing much scum hunting. It feels like he is checking the thread regularly, posting every now and then to grab the low-hanging fruit, but otherwise keeping his head down. I found it suspicious.
Still, I am inclined to try and relying more on analyzing votes than my gut reads at the moment.
Yellow Ranger
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VOTE: Jason
looking at his D2: expresses shock at finsters demise, a nothing post agreeing with black ranger on thinking one of red rangers posts was weird, responds to trini in regards to the vote where he said he trusted her, asks rita why trini is scummy, and a post where he speculates as to whether or not a vigilante killed finster, town reads a few players and top scum reads trini.
There’s a few sticking points here I want to focus on. The big one being when he lists Trini as his top scum read. This feels extremely disengenuous to me considering in his previous post he literally had to ask Rita what made trini scummy. Did that one post really shoot her all the way to the top of your list?
I also find the vigilante post strange because it feels like he’s split between two opinions at the same time- while he is loath to admit that there could be a vigilante at this point, he agrees that it doesn’t make sense for finster to be the scum kill. I myself think that speculating about a vigilante at this stage is super premature but something about how this post is written fells like he started out attempting to condemn the quoted players for thinking about a vig before finding himself agreeing with the theory. its weird
looking at his D2: expresses shock at finsters demise, a nothing post agreeing with black ranger on thinking one of red rangers posts was weird, responds to trini in regards to the vote where he said he trusted her, asks rita why trini is scummy, and a post where he speculates as to whether or not a vigilante killed finster, town reads a few players and top scum reads trini.
There’s a few sticking points here I want to focus on. The big one being when he lists Trini as his top scum read. This feels extremely disengenuous to me considering in his previous post he literally had to ask Rita what made trini scummy. Did that one post really shoot her all the way to the top of your list?
I also find the vigilante post strange because it feels like he’s split between two opinions at the same time- while he is loath to admit that there could be a vigilante at this point, he agrees that it doesn’t make sense for finster to be the scum kill. I myself think that speculating about a vigilante at this stage is super premature but something about how this post is written fells like he started out attempting to condemn the quoted players for thinking about a vig before finding himself agreeing with the theory. its weird
White Ranger
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Jason's comment about trusting the old White Ranger and yourself was what made me do a double-take and start looking at him as possible scum, because I just didn't think that the reasoning against Blue Ranger was sound. If his reason was simply that voting Blue Ranger meant that he wouldn't be tied for the most votes then why wasn't that the reason he gave? If he chose Blue Ranger because he had a reason/reasons to not want to put a vote on Billy or Goldar then why wasn't that what he said? Of course he may well have agreed with you two, but I reckon it looks like scum coming from the "everything must have a justification" angle and making a slip by providing a strange-looking reasoning where the simplest would've sufficed.
The floating head did ask for specific receipts though. The recent discussion around you means that you get to be the first of the active players to get a proper read.
So I'll be starting some of those promised reads now then. Today is most likely to end up being Jason, Trini, Green Ranger, Black Ranger and perhaps Alpha 5 as a bonus. If you think I'm leaving someone particularly important out then I'll either do them too or give a reason why I won't.
I also realised I never answered this yesterday:
Yeah, I see no reason to change from what was being used before.
Kimberly
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What was your initial strategy?
Can we get evidence of any of this? I just feel that “gut reads” is a really weak excuse for 4 different people.
Also clever to start poking holes in the people folk have been town-reading so far (apart from Red, I know that some people have been speculating on Red). Especially when some of these people are really questioning your behaviour.
Kimberly
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If it was town v scum and it caught them off guard, have you seen any evidence of scum (possibly) responding to this today? Like a change in tactics at all?
no hard evidence (yet...)
but many gut feelings coming from those who were on the goldar vote
vs
those who were on the trini vote
also there's what i call that "signature day 2 dead air™" gut feeling that comes from when scum avoided danger. like there's a feeling of "oh hey, we can relax right now"
Kimberly
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It has been pretty quiet. Anyone you think was talkative yesterday but seems to have skunk into obscurity today?
tommy getting replaced really sucks for this btw :( :( :(
hmm...
most def blue ranger. red ranger too, i think??
also while not a change in activity, trini feels different too. like avoiding the lynch got rid of her jitters and indecisiveness for example
Kimberly
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I want to reread Blue because I feel like I keep missing them and I still need to look at Red’s posts from today.
As for Trini, I’ve kind of thought that this has been a good sign. Like missing the chop kind of snapped them into action. This is in part what is making me think that yesterday was possibly Town v Town.
billy: 8 white ranger: 6 jason: 6 yellow ranger: 4 green ranger: 4 zack: 3 bulk: 3
a whole lot of not posting from you all
tsk tsk
okay im going to bed night
a whole lot of not posting from you all
tsk tsk
okay im going to bed night
White Ranger
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Aside from what I mentioned earlier, there are a few more things that bother me about Jason's Blue Ranger vote on Day 1 and the reasons he's given since.
Add to that the fact that today Jason's greatest scumread is Trini, despite the fact that he had ask Rita what it was that made Trini scummy to her:
It will take something quite special (or someone pointing out a major flaw in my thinking) to change my mind on this, so I'm confident dropping this here now:
VOTE: Jason
I'm going to disappear for some time but the further promised reads, as well as answers to any questions, will still be coming later today.
So at this point Jason is scumreading Billy and his three further posts are follow ups on his mistaken theory about Bulk and Skull being Masons, none of which mention scumreads. But then Jason drops his vote on Blue Ranger:
This makes the vote spread have Blue Ranger in the lead on 4 votes, Jason in second with 3 and both Billy and Goldar with 2 each. Presumably Jason is still scumreading Billy at this point, so why not put your vote on him to make it a 3 way tie with one of your scumreads as a leader? Even with getting out of the vote leads was your primary concern, surely you'd try to achieve that by attempting to convince people to follow you onto Billy? Things get even stranger when you take the following (said to Trini) into account:
For reference this is what Trini has said by the time Jason voted:
So Jason would rather follow Trini onto a vote based on the fact that it doesn't particularly matter whether the D1 lynch can be proven to be scum or not than actually make one of his scumreads a viable lynch option. That certainly seems very scummy to me.
Add to that the fact that today Jason's greatest scumread is Trini, despite the fact that he had ask Rita what it was that made Trini scummy to her:
Now that I reckon Jason has been acting particularly scummy so far his strange early pushes on Skull and Bulk as well as Rita give off the feeling of scum searching for a lynch that they can create a justification for (thats just circular reasoning though, the actual evidence is the preceding points).
It will take something quite special (or someone pointing out a major flaw in my thinking) to change my mind on this, so I'm confident dropping this here now:
VOTE: Jason
I'm going to disappear for some time but the further promised reads, as well as answers to any questions, will still be coming later today.
Green Ranger
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I'm not going to respond to a single vote on me. I see no reason to unless the justification is so bad that I want to clear it up. Though it wasn't in this case.
As for the later comment about my lack of scum hunting. That's a valid criticism and something that I aim to improve on.
Trini
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Why would my flip change your thoughts on Zordon at all?
Jason
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well White Ranger, My day 1 reads have changed. Heck my reads from earlier this day phase has changed. Rita never really responded to me on why they believe Trini is scum, but after rereading the thread It is these posts that led me to Scum read Trini. The defense between voting for her vs voting for Goldar doesn't come down to "I'm town, don't vote me out" it comes down to "that's a cowardly vote, you are scum". Which strikes me the wrong way, when I believed Trini day 1 it was before seeing those. Now I'm convinced she is scum
Vote: Trini [\highlight]
Vote: Trini [\highlight]
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
jason (4 votes)
trini - #999 #1001
bulk - #1018
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
black ranger (2 votes)
rita repulsa - #857 #900
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
trini (2 votes)
zordon - #893 #1034
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
black ranger - #860 #1093
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
zordon - #1034 #1090
alpha 5 - #1125
trini [\highlight] (0 votes)
jason - #1142 #1143
skull (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #900 #936
Post Counts:
black ranger: 46 rita repulsa: 41 trini: 30 zordon: 27 kimberly: 23 skull: 22 pink ranger: 21 alpha 5: 13 red ranger: 13 blue ranger: 12 billy: 8 jason: 8 white ranger: 7 green ranger: 5 yellow ranger: 4 zack: 3 sawneeks: 3 bulk: 3 melonrabbit: 2
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DAY ENDS IN:
Day Start
jason (4 votes)
bulk - #1018
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
black ranger (2 votes)
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
trini (2 votes)
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
alpha 5 - #1125
trini [\highlight] (0 votes)
skull (0 votes)
Post Counts:
black ranger: 46 rita repulsa: 41 trini: 30 zordon: 27 kimberly: 23 skull: 22 pink ranger: 21 alpha 5: 13 red ranger: 13 blue ranger: 12 billy: 8 jason: 8 white ranger: 7 green ranger: 5 yellow ranger: 4 zack: 3 sawneeks: 3 bulk: 3 melonrabbit: 2
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Green Ranger
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Did you mean to quote posts here? Or does 'these posts' just refer to the defense comment?
Jason
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The Hyperlinks are the posts. I was using the search function, so I find it easier to use the hyperlink function instead of quotes.
Trini
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Those are the posts that make you think I'm scum? Sounds like you're grasping at straws to be honest.
Zordon
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The thread is deader than a dead thing. I'm tempted to sit on someone who's just not posting to save the mods trying to find replacements for a quarter of the game.
So even though you previously townread some of these people (maybe all?) suddenly they are all scum for reasons but you can't really find reasons, just they're scum. Or well no one else is really scum reading them so you might as well?
Also the person you're voting is not in this list.
These two together since they address Black Ranger-
Rita, are you purposely poking Black here to get him to vote for you after he said he would vote for the next person who asked him that?
So even though you previously townread some of these people (maybe all?) suddenly they are all scum for reasons but you can't really find reasons, just they're scum. Or well no one else is really scum reading them so you might as well?
Also the person you're voting is not in this list.
These two together since they address Black Ranger-
At the risk of answering for someone else I'm going to reply here because I'm tired of Black Ranger blaming everyone else for not carefully reading his dozens of posts. He said the strategy was to engage and ask questions. But if you ask me, the problem with that is anyone can ask questions. Scum can ask questions. If we don't see results from those questions then no one gains.hey so... about that secretive scum read...
did you share it?
Rita, are you purposely poking Black here to get him to vote for you after he said he would vote for the next person who asked him that?
Zordon
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I admire Rita's dedication and whoever is behind that account should get a trophy but I think under the silly RP there's someone making sharp observations. It's leaning into the flavor with purpose. I just don't know if they are effective or not because I don't know how others are gauging her or if they're just writing her off. It's hard to tell anything today. Today I want to scumread half the game.
Zack
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This part of one of Bulk's posts makes Zyaaaaa do two 180º very quickly
The conclusion that Finster's flip is more useful than a regular-ass trusted townie NK = tastes somewhat good
But trying to lead the discussion in the direction of "other night phase shenanigans" outside of scum's control = tastes real bitter and makes Zyaaaa very sad because bitter food is bad
While Zyaaaaaa really appreciates the frustrated townie act, your reads list consisting of four "gut reads" with "nothing tangible to back it up" after you having to defend your noble efforts in scumhunting is such a downer
Pink Ranger
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Since someone mentioned this earlier Why are you mimicking Kyanrute? Someone said you were cosplaying as Stan on day 1 but I'm not even sure what Stan cosplay would even be.
Yellow Ranger
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Ignoring the coward rhetoric, what do you think about the point she was making about Red Ranger’s vote (in that it avoided pushing any of the non-Trini trains ahead of each other)? Also I suppose in light of the fact that Goldar did end up flipping town?
Zordon
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While I am inclined to agree that those posts come off scummy it is a big 180 to go from trusting her to voting for her in a day phase, particularly one as limp as this one.
Honestly the overall radio silence concerns me. I get that we have had weekends off in many games. But I would guarantee scum is hiding in these low posters. Maybe not the ones in thread of being replaced, I don't know if they'd risk it unless they needed an out, but there's scum down there in that bottom tier. It's early enough that I kind of want to pick them off since they may be sitting back and watching us all yell at each other.
lol Zack said "eat me" which is the Stannest of Stan things.
Zack
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oh, and here's some great material about Finster
check this out
Scum knows Finster isn't one of them, and is left wondering "Why is this cotton candy-looking fella trying to look scummy?"
"Oh, they're trying to avoid a NK and to survive until D2! They even said 'We'll see'!"
"Possibly a PR, then. Let's shoot them and see what color is the blood that comes out of their gut."
check this out
Finster left the phase with these scummy-ass posts as their last ones
Scum knows Finster isn't one of them, and is left wondering "Why is this cotton candy-looking fella trying to look scummy?"
"Oh, they're trying to avoid a NK and to survive until D2! They even said 'We'll see'!"
"Possibly a PR, then. Let's shoot them and see what color is the blood that comes out of their gut."
Zack
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Zyaaaaaaaack has no idea of who are these Stan, Kyanrute [and Include] individuals, and doesn't understand why people seem to be under the impression that Zyaaaaa has great acting chops
Zyaaaa just wants to bust some sweet moves
White Ranger
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It doesn't matter whether or not you still scumread Billy, what matters is that a mere 2 hours after you state that you now scumread Billy you pass up an opportunity to make her a viable lynch target. Instead you followed Trini onto a vote for Blue Ranger because she said that we'd get some interesting information from his flip. If your view on Billy changed drastically during those two hours then why did you never bother to bring that up? As for the two posts that you say have you convinced; they seem like a totally fair reaction from someone under pressure and in very real danger of being lynched. I reckon the reasoning behind her Blue Ranger vote (that you agreed with) looks a fair bit scummier than calling out someone she saw as trying to fly under the radar with their vote.
I'm sorry but how would trying to look scummy make you less likely to cop a NK? Its not like scum are going to mistake anyone for one of their own and if there is a vigilante in play then you risk drawing their attention. I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
Surely the most Stan thing would be making Stan puns, no?
Trini read incoming soon (maybe).
Zordon
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bust on, rangerZyaaaaaaaack has no idea of who are these Stan, Kyanrute [and Include] individuals, and doesn't understand why people seem to be under the impression that Zyaaaaa has great acting chops
Zyaaaa just wants to bust some sweet moves
Zack
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Regarding our dear Trini
Even though the point Rita brought up on D1 about Trini repeating themselves with "D1 sucks" rang some bells, this townie didn't feel very motivated to vote there in the last phase (especially with Finster around*)
But Zyaaa will agree that they feel worse about Trini today. It does feel like they're working harder - but not really for the sake of town
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This quick vote-unvote smells like "Ooh, I think I can try this to look good now-- oh, I guess not"
*A Finster lynch could've had happened in those final moments had Yellow and Alpha kept their votes on them, which makes Zyaaa hesitant to trust the both of them for switching to Goldar instead
Even though the point Rita brought up on D1 about Trini repeating themselves with "D1 sucks" rang some bells, this townie didn't feel very motivated to vote there in the last phase (especially with Finster around*)
But Zyaaa will agree that they feel worse about Trini today. It does feel like they're working harder - but not really for the sake of town
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This quick vote-unvote smells like "Ooh, I think I can try this to look good now-- oh, I guess not"
*A Finster lynch could've had happened in those final moments had Yellow and Alpha kept their votes on them, which makes Zyaaa hesitant to trust the both of them for switching to Goldar instead
Jason
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Thinking about who is and isn't this game from the signups all I imagine Zack being is this right here.
In all seriousness, my scum reading of Trini changed after I read day end, I went from trusting Trini to not. Trini doesn't trust me and thinks I am scum, and reading their posts, especially what I read as a non-defense defense.
I took red ranger as wanting to avoid a day 1 tie. no lynch day 1 only helps scum, because it takes the power out of the hands of town and doesn't get us enough information on who voted for who, when and how did those people flip. If I had been here at day end on Thursday, i would have likely swapped my vote to Goldar as well.
Kimberly
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Thank you for pointing that out. I’m getting a little frustrated by Black for the same reasons at the moment and it’s becoming more and more likely that my vote will land there. Still at work though and need to do a bit more reading
Pink Ranger
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Thinking about who is and isn't this game from the signups all I imagine Zack being is this right here.
In all seriousness, my scum reading of Trini changed after I read day end, I went from trusting Trini to not. Trini doesn't trust me and thinks I am scum, and reading their posts, especially what I read as a non-defense defense.
I took red ranger as wanting to avoid a day 1 tie. no lynch day 1 only helps scum, because it takes the power out of the hands of town and doesn't get us enough information on who voted for who, when and how did those people flip. If I had been here at day end on Thursday, i would have likely swapped my vote to Goldar as well.
So you think Trini is mafia. She was in the lead for a good part of the end of day, what do you think her partners were doing? Isn't Red Ranger a high% candidate with their move from Jason to Goldar? And I don't think breaking a tie is a necessarily a town trait, for mafia a mislynch is better than no lynch.
White Ranger
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I forgot to say before, Rita did actually respond to you as to what she felt made Trini look scummy. I even quoted it in my read of you.
Red Ranger
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While we're bringing up Finster's posts, let us look at this.
Pretty sure this was Finster's most substantial post of the day. Seems like Finster was on you pretty hard. Seems kind of convenient that you would try to paint his death on scum thinking he was a pr.
Zack
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People who look scummy don't usually get shot on N1 because scum sees them as possible escapegoats.
you can try to argue about whether trying to look scummy like that is a good or a bad move, but it's completely irrelevant as we now know that's what Finster, vanilla townie, was doing
"Its not like scum are going to mistake anyone for one of their own"
what a goddamn weird line
Green Ranger
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I feel like most of the players have came to that conclusion. I wouldn't use that as an argument against Zack.
Green Ranger
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And yes, I agree that this Finster discussion is largely useless right now. It makes sense at the start of the day but at this point, it just feels like people trying to find some easy point to talk about to appear active.
Red Ranger
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Because I haven't been able to look at the thread this weekend and re-reading is going pretty poorly.
Zordon
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I did not like Black's self-focused play d1 but yes I think he's gotten much more blatant and worse today and even that high post count is easy to put up as scum if you're not doing anything with it. But I have a small hesitation that scum may be sitting back and just watching and laughing. It might just be paranoia.
Zack
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Yeah, it was so very substantial and not completely OMGUS
It's not like I immediately countered and debunked it
And it's not like Finster completely backed down from "scumreading me" after they saw they had no leg to stand on
And it's not like they admitted to not doing anything useful at day end when confronted by myself
Zack
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My bad, Zyaaaaa didn't realize they weren't allowed to comment on discussions that happened while Zyaaaaa wasn't here
Zyaaaa is very sorry they interrupted your dead air--- I mean, your great and commendable efforts in blatant scumhunting
Zack
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Also, this post reeeeeeeeeeeks
You had this speculation, but no one had brought up my theory before
Instead of being incredibly bothered by that post and trying to dismiss me like that, why not quote the post I made about yours truly and explain yourself?
Honestly
VOTE: Trini
Jason
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I think her partners may have even voted for her. If Monopoly mafia taught me anything its that Scum can and does bus their own players if it can get them ahead.
Red Ranger
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The only vote on Jason I had was at the beginning of the day, the other vote I had was on Alpha 5. Both didn't work though because I had used the highlight tag.
My first correct vote of the day was for Goldar, and it had nothing to do with tied votes at all. I was trying to lynch scum.
Pink Ranger
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Sorry you are correct. My list is people who voted Goldar AFTER I moved from Jason to Trini.
Trini
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Which post do you want me to explain?
Zack
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The recent one about you.
It's not really a matter of explaining yourself, to be fair, but really about commenting on it, at least, instead of saying I'm "wasting time on it this late into the day" when I'm discussing multiple things at once, and about not trying to gate off discussions with a completely arbirary timetable ("There are 7 hours before lynch time" - so? Zyaaaa is available now, and therefore Zyaaa will say what original thoughts they have to say.)
Pink Ranger
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Couldn't Jason say the same thing about you?
Zack
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==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
jason (4 votes)
trini - #999 #1001
bulk - #1018
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
trini (3 votes)
zordon - #893 #1034
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
zack - #1175
black ranger (2 votes)
rita repulsa - #857 #900
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
black ranger - #860 #1093
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
zordon - #1034 #1090
alpha 5 - #1125
skull (0 votes)
rita repulsa - #900 #936
Post Counts:
black ranger: 46 rita repulsa: 41 trini: 35 zordon: 33 pink ranger: 25 kimberly: 24 skull: 22 red ranger: 16 zack: 15 alpha 5: 13 blue ranger: 12 jason: 12 white ranger: 9 billy: 8 green ranger: 8 yellow ranger: 5 sawneeks: 4 bulk: 3 melonrabbit: 3
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Day Start
jason (4 votes)
bulk - #1018
yellow ranger - #1128
white ranger - #1138
trini - #1141
trini (3 votes)
rita repulsa - #936
jason - #1143
zack - #1175
black ranger (2 votes)
pink ranger - #1076
zordon - #1090
billy (1 votes)
black ranger - #1093
red ranger (1 votes)
green ranger - #862
green ranger (1 votes)
alpha 5 - #1125
skull (0 votes)
Post Counts:
black ranger: 46 rita repulsa: 41 trini: 35 zordon: 33 pink ranger: 25 kimberly: 24 skull: 22 red ranger: 16 zack: 15 alpha 5: 13 blue ranger: 12 jason: 12 white ranger: 9 billy: 8 green ranger: 8 yellow ranger: 5 sawneeks: 4 bulk: 3 melonrabbit: 3
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Trini
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Go back and read. I've already given my thoughts on Finster and what his NK could mean. It's like a page back.
Pink Ranger
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Trini
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He could. Though until Goldar screwed up I was very far ahead of anyone else. My lynch did gain traction yesterday until the final moments.
Zack
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... what are you talking about
Zack
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Trini
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Ok then I don't know what post you want me to comment on specifically. Can you like quote it? Otherwise I'm done trying to guess.
Tommy
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I'm afraid not. Would at least have teammates telling me what's going on.
Zack
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"why not quote the post I made about yours truly"
"The recent one about you."
A post about Finster is not a good guess to fit that criteria
Pink Ranger
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Wouldn't they tell you to go in the thread and act ignorant?
Trini
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Ok now I see it.
So you have a problem with me voting for Jason early on, and then unvoting? I still even ended up placing my vote back on him. I've been pretty consistent in that regard in finding Jason suspect.
Zack
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How are you feeling about Blue right now?
Tommy
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Maybe. Would you?