It's also easy to get a train deliberately rolling and take over all discussion by making that pressure a bit bigger than needed with a few extra votes on there. Also pretty basic imo.A vote is the best way to pressure someone. It’s more likely to be noticed and puts more emphasis on your point. It also isn’t set in stone and can be adjusted as desired. It’s the most basic tactic in mafia lol
Willing to go with Nat. Been pretty vocal and has lasted this long. Gorlak just became vocal yesterday and proactive. Dead. (Could be I missed him D1/d2, but yesterday he seemed to be leading very well. )
I just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.event 4 results are probably especially important now we know there was two scum there
I really wonder why DC didn't pass to Apollo near the end there?
I’ll wait here while you go collect the list of everyone that’s voted for two town players this game. Let me know how it goes.If Kawl isn't scum, either you, Natiko or both of you are. Your track records have been incredibly weak this entire game and last night vote for town and then the switch over to who is conveniently also town is incredibly sketchy.
The following people did NOT have an active vote at day end:
Lone_Prodigy
briefs_cat
Your track record has been incredibly weak this whole game.
See how easy that is to say?
A melon/natiko/heymonkey flip is what I'd be most interested in seeing right now.
But it didn’t take over all discussion. Blarg was still pretty handily the vote leader. I feel like I could see your point more if you at least thought Blarg was scum, but you don’t even believe that. What would the purpose of scum pushing Alex in that moment be if Blarg is town? What would they be derailing?It's also easy to get a train deliberately rolling and take over all discussion by making that pressure a bit bigger than needed with a few extra votes on there. Also pretty basic imo.
You already know my answer on who I want to see a flip on
Having a fallback is always nice, cmon. If Blarg is scum, what I don't think, it makes more sense yeah, but even with town Blarg it perfectly serves scums interest to make the other obvious lynch option another townie, before people start exploring different options.But it didn’t take over all discussion. Blarg was still pretty handily the vote leader. I feel like I could see your point more if you at least thought Blarg was scum, but you don’t even believe that. What would the purpose of scum pushing Alex in that moment be if Blarg is town? What would they be derailing?
^^now this intrigues me - keep diggingI just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.
I wonder if there is scum between you and Geno...
If mine's been incredibly weak, yours is deep in the gutter right now.
A melon/natiko/heymonkey flip is what I'd be most interested in seeing right now.
But I was already voting JubJub who was sitting at five votes and due to Lux we know was town now. After Alex became suspicious and received pressure he was also sitting at five votes. What exactly was my motivation in that moment if I’m scum?Having a fallback is always nice, cmon. If Blarg is scum, what I don't think, it makes more sense yeah, but even with town Blarg it perfectly serves scums interest to make the other obvious lynch option another townie, before people start exploring different options.
This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.But I was already voting JubJub who was sitting at five votes and due to Lux we know was town now. After Alex became suspicious and received pressure he was also sitting at five votes. What exactly was my motivation in that moment if I’m scum?
Did I miss something? How do you know the jailer killed you?oh by the way i was the lone stranger no idea why the jailor killed me though
please tell me more but also big props for playing hilariouslyoh by the way i was the lone stranger no idea why the jailor killed me though
because i was invited to jailor chat where i was given read only access and they killed me in thereDid I miss something? How do you know the jailer killed you?
Why would the jailer waste a shot on something that doesnt even give answers T_T
This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.
But why not push on Ezekiel in that case? He was under flak and could’ve had an item too, plus is a much more active player. Unless you think he’s scum too I suppose.This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.
because i was invited to jailor chat where i was given read only access and they killed me in there
what do you want to know?please tell me more but also big props for playing hilariously
Huh, so can you give us some insight into the actions you took with it?oh by the way i was the lone stranger no idea why the jailor killed me though
Alexem came out of the event and half-claimed role but didn't tell what he asked for/got, threw some shade on Fando/Brazil, then disappeared, which was out of character to my eye, at least (I'm not sure others talked about that).What was the deal with AlexEm at the end of the last day phase? Don't understand much about what happened there apart from him not doing well to some pressure questions (?)
I've never seen a jailer with a killing power (I'm guessing either item or multiple power), or one with only read-only access for a chat so those are my questions. You saw the command? Did they say anything else?what do you want to know?
What? How do you come to this? No.And so you're also saying Lux is actually scum?
Ezekiel ITAed a powerful scum role iirc, he got a bit too much towncred to be easily pushable.But why not push on Ezekiel in that case? He was under flak and could’ve had an item too, plus is a much more active player. Unless you think he’s scum too I suppose.
Alexem came out of the event and half-claimed role but didn't tell what he asked for/got, threw some shade on Fando/Brazil, then disappeared, which was out of character to my eye, at least (I'm not sure others talked about that).
When he came back he was weird-possibly sincere (obviously he was but reporting in-the-moment feels) but also he claimed a reflect so the only way he could be confirmed was via lynch.
Illogical, but whateverAnyways, as promised I'm shooting Blarg during the next ITA phase since he somehow survived the night.
voted include for red check, shot at natiko cause i figured it was safer to flip him based on the claimsHuh, so can you give us some insight into the actions you took with it?
It was pretty late but there was some time. There wasn't really another wagon that was viable so it's a double-edged sword there. Too many active people jumping would have lynched Blarg and I don't think there were enough people/enough agreement to move someone else up and not enough time for that.Sounds good, and thanks monkey for that. Odd how the vote didn't change off him after he voted himself, but I didn't check to see how much more time was left in that day
He claimed the kill on JubJub so I was just wondering if you were wrapping him into this theory but I guess we'll talk about it tomorrow.What? How do you come to this? No.
I've never seen a jailer with a killing power (I'm guessing either item or multiple power), or one with only read-only access for a chat so those are my questions. You saw the command? Did they say anything else?
As for why he is alive, im not that surprised, its odd by not all that suspicious considering how many kills happened yesterday and how little we know about all the kills that happened yesterday.Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.
So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor
What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?
this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
And Saw was the person who gave DCPat the antidote.I just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.
I wonder if there is scum between you and Geno...
Are you seriously trying to bait a possible new town BP into claiming?this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
It was pretty late but there was some time. There wasn't really another wagon that was viable so it's a double-edged sword there. Too many active people jumping would have lynched Blarg and I don't think there were enough people/enough agreement to move someone else up and not enough time for that.
Though I dunno if not lynch Blarg was a good thing. Time will tell there.
As to why scum didnt kill him. idk
It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?Are you seriously trying to bait a possible new town BP into claiming?
Just did a quick reread of Faircure, the person I gave the antidote to yesterday event. I didnt really have a really good reason to choose her over Apollo, Geno or Kawl, but I decided to give it to her to see what she'd do with it. Gave it to Geno.
I think it's at least interesting that there is this post day one where she says she doesn't like the lynch candidates. Doesn't like to lynch either Rynam (scum), Vere (scum) or Geno (because he is always a candidate up for lynch d1). She says she'd maybe like to vote Apollo or Grizzly (both scum and under discussion), but she ends up voting Zipped. No mention of Apollo and now likes Grizzly more. Only after the claim votes for Grizzly. After the lynch already was decided.
Her reads list next day is half-decent. All thought it nicely balanced scum in scumread (apollo) and townreads (vere).
First ITA is an easy shot at an inactive.
Then comes the event, where I gave her the antidote. She had the option to give it to either Kawl, Apollo or Geno. She didn't give the antidote to scum Apollo, but I don't think she could. She had a townread of Geno and I guess a scumread on Apollo earlier which I didn't see changing. So no way she can give him the antidote. Then after Apollo died and had to kill somebody she did this weird claim thing while she was vanilla and townread Geno, weird move.
She also later left the Mazre vote for a Lux vote making it I believe 10-3. Leaving the mislynch.
Not feeling good and will leave my vote here. Not sure enough to ITA now and will keep my shot untill ITA3.
VOTE: Faircure
#4804DCPAT, Monday at 3:37 PM
I don't see anything strange at all with shooting Gorlak and a role cop over a Blarg that was moments away from being lynched in the previous day phase.It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?
Why wouldn’t they have killed Zipped then? Unless you’re implying neutral. Lux even saw a kill attempt on Zipped the night he was jailed.So the Jailer can actually roleblock + protect + private chat with his identity hidden + kill at night?
That's pretty OP actually, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if it's not town aligned.
rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
Maybe because a lot of players were actively suggesting to wait for Blarg's NK to decide whether he was telling the truth or not.It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?
That may have already sent scum a BPAnd to add to that, a Blarg that could potentially send scum a BP vest.
I've seen a town jailkeeper role exactly like the one rac is describing somewhere. I don't remember where, though. Probably while researching for my own game.So the Jailer can actually roleblock + protect + private chat with his identity hidden + kill at night?
That's pretty OP actually, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if it's not town aligned.
rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
Yea I noticed that. Wanted to look at those ppl too.Maybe because a lot of players were actively suggesting to wait for Blarg's NK to decide whether he was telling the truth or not.
For sure. I doubt I'd vote him today, but eh, I didn't vote him yesterday. I'm just a big boggled by the NK choices.Maybe because a lot of players were actively suggesting to wait for Blarg's NK to decide whether he was telling the truth or not.
Why?For sure. I doubt I'd vote him today, but eh, I didn't vote him yesterday. I'm just a big boggled by the NK choices.
Sorry, I was implying neutral yeah. But this is actually interesting, could Lux have seen the Jailer try to kill Zipped too?Why wouldn’t they have killed Zipped then? Unless you’re implying neutral. Lux even saw a kill attempt on Zipped the night he was jailed.
I've seen those too; in the incredibly famous known for it's balance Mafia community of Starcraft 2 lolI've seen a town jailkeeper role exactly like the one rac is describing somewhere. I don't remember where, though. Probably while researching for my own game.
I wouldn't be surprised if it did end up being a neutral role.
i could recruit on day 2 to create a new account, created after i started posting in the thread since ferg never used itrac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.
So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor
What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?
this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
you have 2,
make it snappy beanie boi
Are you scum?Would've but drunk.
The drunker I get the more I trust, Stanley.
was that comma meant to be more, like are you telling me that you trust people more in general, or you specifically trust me more?Would've but drunk.
The drunker I get the more I trust, Stanley.
Are you scum?
was that comma meant to be more, like are you telling me that you trust people more in general, or you specifically trust me more?
Also you totes should have joined, Tanked is always the best way to play.
You really did huh? Good job man!DCPat scum, called it.
Hey guys.
Catching up.
That'a inherently unfair. Why would that happen?so i have a wild idea but didn't do any homework
the two kills on day one and the stuart kill yesterday happened right after itas right?
what if scum can submit their own itas in the scum chat? i think it's worth to look at who didn't submit an ita yesterday or day one
man i hate homework, its so solitary
I am Steve Rogers.I am Groot.
I wouldn't have kept my vote on him, but I wouldn't have voted on Alexem either. He seemed to be overwhelmed by responses, and just gave up.Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.
So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor
What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?
this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
Thank you my dudeYou really did huh? Good job man!
how is it anymore inherently unfair than scum just having a straight up day kill?That'a inherently unfair. Why would that happen?
going by the comics, i think this means sorian is in love with you?Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.