Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This

heymonkey

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Oh, edit: rac didn't have one either but he was here. Other than the two above, everyone voted yesterday; I think that was the first time in this game unless I missed something day 2.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
A vote is the best way to pressure someone. It’s more likely to be noticed and puts more emphasis on your point. It also isn’t set in stone and can be adjusted as desired. It’s the most basic tactic in mafia lol
It's also easy to get a train deliberately rolling and take over all discussion by making that pressure a bit bigger than needed with a few extra votes on there. Also pretty basic imo.
 
event 4 results are probably especially important now we know there was two scum there

I really wonder why DC didn't pass to Apollo near the end there?
I just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.

I wonder if there is scum between you and Geno...
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If Kawl isn't scum, either you, Natiko or both of you are. Your track records have been incredibly weak this entire game and last night vote for town and then the switch over to who is conveniently also town is incredibly sketchy.
I’ll wait here while you go collect the list of everyone that’s voted for two town players this game. Let me know how it goes.
 
The following people did NOT have an active vote at day end:

Lone_Prodigy
briefs_cat

Your track record has been incredibly weak this whole game.

See how easy that is to say?

If mine's been incredibly weak, yours is deep in the gutter right now.

A melon/natiko/heymonkey flip is what I'd be most interested in seeing right now.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
A melon/natiko/heymonkey flip is what I'd be most interested in seeing right now.

You already know my answer on who I want to see a flip on

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Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It's also easy to get a train deliberately rolling and take over all discussion by making that pressure a bit bigger than needed with a few extra votes on there. Also pretty basic imo.
But it didn’t take over all discussion. Blarg was still pretty handily the vote leader. I feel like I could see your point more if you at least thought Blarg was scum, but you don’t even believe that. What would the purpose of scum pushing Alex in that moment be if Blarg is town? What would they be derailing?
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Honestly at this point I can't read much into the Alex vote atm.

I know I voted him cuz I figured it would be me vs him.

What screwed us is everything happened sorta quick then we just got an influx of information within an hour or so of deadline. With Blarg claiming to being a blacksmith and kawl/melon confirming it.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
But it didn’t take over all discussion. Blarg was still pretty handily the vote leader. I feel like I could see your point more if you at least thought Blarg was scum, but you don’t even believe that. What would the purpose of scum pushing Alex in that moment be if Blarg is town? What would they be derailing?
Having a fallback is always nice, cmon. If Blarg is scum, what I don't think, it makes more sense yeah, but even with town Blarg it perfectly serves scums interest to make the other obvious lynch option another townie, before people start exploring different options.
 

heymonkey

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I just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.

I wonder if there is scum between you and Geno...
^^now this intrigues me - keep digging

I feel like there's more reason to clear Geno based on behavior and not much on faircure, but I also get really hung up on how Terra was convinced Geno was scum. And Geno acted really odd around the whole Include thing. It means he's probably more likely to be clear but I'm not certain.

If mine's been incredibly weak, yours is deep in the gutter right now.

A melon/natiko/heymonkey flip is what I'd be most interested in seeing right now.
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Do you think melon/natiko/me are teamed up?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Having a fallback is always nice, cmon. If Blarg is scum, what I don't think, it makes more sense yeah, but even with town Blarg it perfectly serves scums interest to make the other obvious lynch option another townie, before people start exploring different options.
But I was already voting JubJub who was sitting at five votes and due to Lux we know was town now. After Alex became suspicious and received pressure he was also sitting at five votes. What exactly was my motivation in that moment if I’m scum?
 

heymonkey

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Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.

So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor

What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?

this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
But I was already voting JubJub who was sitting at five votes and due to Lux we know was town now. After Alex became suspicious and received pressure he was also sitting at five votes. What exactly was my motivation in that moment if I’m scum?
This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
oh by the way i was the lone stranger no idea why the jailor killed me though
Did I miss something? How do you know the jailer killed you?

Why would the jailer waste a shot on something that doesnt even give answers T_T
 

rac

whatever
Did I miss something? How do you know the jailer killed you?

Why would the jailer waste a shot on something that doesnt even give answers T_T
because i was invited to jailor chat where i was given read only access and they killed me in there
 

heymonkey

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This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.

So this is all predicated on:
scum wanting to kill Alexem for reasons (why tho? How was he a threat?)
and putting JubJub off for an NK (why tho? How was he a threat?)

And so you're also saying Lux is actually scum?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
This is simply a matter of what might scum prefer that you're asking me here. Might be that scum saw Alexem coming out of that event and wanting to get rid of him quickly in case he got an item, while putting JubJub off for the NK.
But why not push on Ezekiel in that case? He was under flak and could’ve had an item too, plus is a much more active player. Unless you think he’s scum too I suppose.
 

oreomunsta

Crumbles under pressure *for now*
What was the deal with AlexEm at the end of the last day phase? Don't understand much about what happened there apart from him not doing well to some pressure questions (?)
 

heymonkey

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because i was invited to jailor chat where i was given read only access and they killed me in there

My guess is that Blarg was jailed which is why I asked about BP - but if this is the case, I'm guessing not. Which makes me really curious why Blarg is alive if he can hand out BP. Can you tell us more though? Because man I still have questions.
 

heymonkey

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What was the deal with AlexEm at the end of the last day phase? Don't understand much about what happened there apart from him not doing well to some pressure questions (?)
Alexem came out of the event and half-claimed role but didn't tell what he asked for/got, threw some shade on Fando/Brazil, then disappeared, which was out of character to my eye, at least (I'm not sure others talked about that).

When he came back he was weird-possibly sincere (obviously he was but reporting in-the-moment feels) but also he claimed a reflect so the only way he could be confirmed was via lynch.
 

heymonkey

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what do you want to know?
I've never seen a jailer with a killing power (I'm guessing either item or multiple power), or one with only read-only access for a chat so those are my questions. You saw the command? Did they say anything else?
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
And so you're also saying Lux is actually scum?
What? How do you come to this? No.

And Alexem came out of the event where items couls be won and acted the most suspicious. Good target for a town lynch. Gets rid of a potential threatening item too.

But why not push on Ezekiel in that case? He was under flak and could’ve had an item too, plus is a much more active player. Unless you think he’s scum too I suppose.
Ezekiel ITAed a powerful scum role iirc, he got a bit too much towncred to be easily pushable.
 

oreomunsta

Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Alexem came out of the event and half-claimed role but didn't tell what he asked for/got, threw some shade on Fando/Brazil, then disappeared, which was out of character to my eye, at least (I'm not sure others talked about that).

When he came back he was weird-possibly sincere (obviously he was but reporting in-the-moment feels) but also he claimed a reflect so the only way he could be confirmed was via lynch.

Sounds good, and thanks monkey for that. Odd how the vote didn't change off him after he voted himself, but I didn't check to see how much more time was left in that day
 

rac

whatever
Huh, so can you give us some insight into the actions you took with it?
voted include for red check, shot at natiko cause i figured it was safer to flip him based on the claims

voted myself and blarg, switched to alexem cause again it felt safer because of the claims

by the time i was actually able to get back into the account and vote because i accidentally got it locked i didn't need to switch my vote on my main account
 

heymonkey

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Sounds good, and thanks monkey for that. Odd how the vote didn't change off him after he voted himself, but I didn't check to see how much more time was left in that day
It was pretty late but there was some time. There wasn't really another wagon that was viable so it's a double-edged sword there. Too many active people jumping would have lynched Blarg and I don't think there were enough people/enough agreement to move someone else up and not enough time for that.

Though I dunno if not lynch Blarg was a good thing. Time will tell there.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
For the record, I believe blarg about the bp role. As to why scum didnt kill him. idk

Also, know that we know the jailer decided to jail rac. We know why Zipped died.

T_T
 

rac

whatever
I've never seen a jailer with a killing power (I'm guessing either item or multiple power), or one with only read-only access for a chat so those are my questions. You saw the command? Did they say anything else?

yeah i saw the command i was only given read only access because lone ranger can only vote and ita

if i were to die first lone stranger would've lived
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.

So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor

What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?

this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
As for why he is alive, im not that surprised, its odd by not all that suspicious considering how many kills happened yesterday and how little we know about all the kills that happened yesterday.
About my vote, Nah, i believe the confirmations on his armorer role from Kawl and Melon, and while i dont think it necessarily makes him town i dont particularly mind if he's a neutral. Im still wary about him but not so much i wanna see him lynched.
 
I just read back through that thread. The only people who still didn't receive the antidote once DCPat received his were you, Geno, Kawl, and Apollo. Apollo is dead scum, while Kawl is almost certainly town at this point.

I wonder if there is scum between you and Geno...
And Saw was the person who gave DCPat the antidote.
 
Poltergust seems sketchy when it comes to his ITA shots. Monkey called out in her readlist (#4906) his unused shots, despite town reading him. He then took a very safe shot at Nomad (#5030) that didn't hit and then made a weird post about it (#5039).

This talk about shooting Blarg is especially uncharacteristic with this in mind.
 
this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
Are you seriously trying to bait a possible new town BP into claiming?
 

oreomunsta

Crumbles under pressure *for now*
It was pretty late but there was some time. There wasn't really another wagon that was viable so it's a double-edged sword there. Too many active people jumping would have lynched Blarg and I don't think there were enough people/enough agreement to move someone else up and not enough time for that.

Though I dunno if not lynch Blarg was a good thing. Time will tell there.

Fair enough. I'll concede, though, that it's way easier for me to make these statements in hindsight than it would have been if I was in that day end mess :D

As to why scum didnt kill him. idk

If Blarg is indeed town, he's a great distraction to keep town from scumhunting
 

rac

whatever
oh btw jailor talked about how zipped knew about their other function

dunno why lone stranger was so scummy that they used it i guess
 

heymonkey

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Are you seriously trying to bait a possible new town BP into claiming?
It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?
 

heymonkey

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Ugh. Every time I try to load this it thinks I'm logged out. It's DCPat's vote on Faircure:

Just did a quick reread of Faircure, the person I gave the antidote to yesterday event. I didnt really have a really good reason to choose her over Apollo, Geno or Kawl, but I decided to give it to her to see what she'd do with it. Gave it to Geno.

I think it's at least interesting that there is this post day one where she says she doesn't like the lynch candidates. Doesn't like to lynch either Rynam (scum), Vere (scum) or Geno (because he is always a candidate up for lynch d1). She says she'd maybe like to vote Apollo or Grizzly (both scum and under discussion), but she ends up voting Zipped. No mention of Apollo and now likes Grizzly more. Only after the claim votes for Grizzly. After the lynch already was decided.

Her reads list next day is half-decent. All thought it nicely balanced scum in scumread (apollo) and townreads (vere).
First ITA is an easy shot at an inactive.

Then comes the event, where I gave her the antidote. She had the option to give it to either Kawl, Apollo or Geno. She didn't give the antidote to scum Apollo, but I don't think she could. She had a townread of Geno and I guess a scumread on Apollo earlier which I didn't see changing. So no way she can give him the antidote. Then after Apollo died and had to kill somebody she did this weird claim thing while she was vanilla and townread Geno, weird move.

She also later left the Mazre vote for a Lux vote making it I believe 10-3. Leaving the mislynch.

Not feeling good and will leave my vote here. Not sure enough to ITA now and will keep my shot untill ITA3.

VOTE: Faircure

#4804DCPAT, Monday at 3:37 PM
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I was looking back and noticed that Gorlak’s death was seperare like Hecht’s was. No clue on the significance, but I figured it should be pointed out anyways.
 
So the Jailer can actually roleblock + protect + private chat with his identity hidden + kill at night?

That's pretty OP actually, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if it's not town aligned.

rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
 
It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?
I don't see anything strange at all with shooting Gorlak and a role cop over a Blarg that was moments away from being lynched in the previous day phase.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So the Jailer can actually roleblock + protect + private chat with his identity hidden + kill at night?

That's pretty OP actually, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if it's not town aligned.

rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
Why wouldn’t they have killed Zipped then? Unless you’re implying neutral. Lux even saw a kill attempt on Zipped the night he was jailed.
 
It doesn't matter now because we know Blarg wasn't jailed. It's also not bait if I ask outright. Are you not curious why Blarg is alive if his claim is legit? Look at who else died. Why any of them over a legit-Blarg?
Maybe because a lot of players were actively suggesting to wait for Blarg's NK to decide whether he was telling the truth or not.
 
So the Jailer can actually roleblock + protect + private chat with his identity hidden + kill at night?

That's pretty OP actually, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if it's not town aligned.

rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
I've seen a town jailkeeper role exactly like the one rac is describing somewhere. I don't remember where, though. Probably while researching for my own game.

I wouldn't be surprised if it did end up being a neutral role.
 

heymonkey

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Maybe because a lot of players were actively suggesting to wait for Blarg's NK to decide whether he was telling the truth or not.
For sure. I doubt I'd vote him today, but eh, I didn't vote him yesterday. I'm just a big boggled by the NK choices.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
An event is starting

This event has space for 9 players. The first 9 to join are in, sign ups cut off after that. The time commitment should be about 30-45 minutes and the activity requirement is very high (players will be playing multiple games in quick succession that may involve discussion or voting). Please use the JOIN command to join the event.
 
Why wouldn’t they have killed Zipped then? Unless you’re implying neutral. Lux even saw a kill attempt on Zipped the night he was jailed.
Sorry, I was implying neutral yeah. But this is actually interesting, could Lux have seen the Jailer try to kill Zipped too?

Guess not since Zipped had Stockholm syndrome and was also surprised by Lux's knowledge.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don’t have the time commitment to sit and play non-stop for 45 minutes right now sadly. If more are needed I can try, but I’d probably be spotty.
 
I've seen a town jailkeeper role exactly like the one rac is describing somewhere. I don't remember where, though. Probably while researching for my own game.

I wouldn't be surprised if it did end up being a neutral role.
I've seen those too; in the incredibly famous known for it's balance Mafia community of Starcraft 2 lol
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Due to how long this is taking, please let me know if you need to drop as well. If the event doesn't fill in another 20 minutes or so, I'm going to cancel it for now.
 

rac

whatever
rac, can you explain more about the Lone Stranger mechanics? He joined in pretty late in the game if I'm remembering it right. Did the Jailer choose to kill you or your "NPC"?
i could recruit on day 2 to create a new account, created after i started posting in the thread since ferg never used it
i couldn't talk but i could vote and ita, if i died i could play on through my account

the jailer chose to kill the npc
 
Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.

So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor

What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?

this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.

I find it surprising, & as stated before, I think there was a concerned effort to sway the vote off of Blarg, hence the sudden swing towards Alexem & suspicion on everyone that voted Alexem near the end (I have a town read on you, but you were the first person to vote or Alexem yesterday...). Based on all the Town Kills, I think most of the Night Kills were Scum. DCPat was an exception, but that could have been someone who just wanted a flip on a quiet player.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Would've but drunk.
The drunker I get the more I trust, Stanley.
was that comma meant to be more, like are you telling me that you trust people more in general, or you specifically trust me more?

Also you totes should have joined, Tanked is always the best way to play.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
was that comma meant to be more, like are you telling me that you trust people more in general, or you specifically trust me more?

Also you totes should have joined, Tanked is always the best way to play.

I think you are def town. And I trust you with my impaired judgement and all.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Got pretty quiet with most of the awake players in that event lol What are people thinking for their ITAs today? I’m leaning towards LP or briefs. I doubt they’ll ever post enough to get a fully developed read on at this rate. Oreo and Neck are bad too, but at least Oreo has shown up today. Hopefully that continues going forward.
 
I missed the event! Dratini!

DCPat scum, called it.

Hey guys.

Catching up.
You really did huh? Good job man!
so i have a wild idea but didn't do any homework

the two kills on day one and the stuart kill yesterday happened right after itas right?

what if scum can submit their own itas in the scum chat? i think it's worth to look at who didn't submit an ita yesterday or day one

man i hate homework, its so solitary
That'a inherently unfair. Why would that happen?
I am Groot.
I am Steve Rogers.
Oh, correct again, rac did still have an active vote on Blargonaut yesterday. He was just at the top; I didn't see.

So:
rac
BladeSymphony
Zubz
ExtremeTactician
StanleyPalmtree
Geno
Kalor

What do you all think of Blarg still being alive/would you have kept your vote on him at EoD if you'd been here (for those that weren't)?

this is not a call for anyone who may have protected Blarg to claim, though - but I'm curious if anyone received a BP last night since it's possible that may be connected to happenings last night.
I wouldn't have kept my vote on him, but I wouldn't have voted on Alexem either. He seemed to be overwhelmed by responses, and just gave up.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I'll never get private voting counts right apparently....

But anyway, Event 7 - Lone Survivor has concluded and is now publicly viewable in the Galactic Arena.
 
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