Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This
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Sawneeks
little green dog
You'll have to forgive me if I think your reluctance to divulge info when zipped is calling you out to be scummy. :x
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
The only argument against Melon being scum is "No way scum would try something like that".
Her only defense against anything is "I couldn't claim".
If we lynch her and she is telling the truth, we lose nothing, since she used her power.
If we lynch her and she is scum. We can look at the no lynch bandwagon for the event.
Her only defense against anything is "I couldn't claim".
If we lynch her and she is telling the truth, we lose nothing, since she used her power.
If we lynch her and she is scum. We can look at the no lynch bandwagon for the event.
Well, I'll disagree on one of these points - we lose a player if she's town, and players are worth more than their roles.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Lol wait so he was spot on so you spent the last however long calling him a liar for what reason exactly?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I've proven my reasoning on why I think she may be scum.
What are others reasoning on why she is town, other than she claimed gladiator, which she could be lying about.
What are others reasoning on why she is town, other than she claimed gladiator, which she could be lying about.
It feels nice to be justified in my early Rynam vote and my Rynam ITA. I don't care if he was basically the low-hanging fruit of the scum team due to his inactivity; I just can't believe I managed to get something right on Day 1. =D
Verelios
Were-elios
Obviously because I know I'm a role cop, and the words Zipped used+BP make me think he's not a RC but a JOAT.
Verelios
Were-elios
*Shrug
Ynnek7
OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
Okay, so Verelios isn't a power reflecter, and actually is a role blocker, then?
I actually do think it's likely we have some roles doubled up amongst all of us, so that doesn't seem too unlikely to me.
Bad luck on zip's part to find just the role that he'd find suspicious enough to call out, if he is town.
I actually do think it's likely we have some roles doubled up amongst all of us, so that doesn't seem too unlikely to me.
Bad luck on zip's part to find just the role that he'd find suspicious enough to call out, if he is town.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So is she a scum Gladiator that pushed for a gambit with her scummate or is she lying scum that isn’t even a Gladiator? Your theory doesn’t exactly work well with one of these (well, or both of them but one it really doesn’t work with).
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So he’s a JOAT that used multiple things in one night? Because inherent 1-shot BP plus a JOAT doesn’t even make sense unless it’s a neutral.
Not sure if typo or just not paying attention.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
This is actually a fair question. She called the TD but didn't actually vote for Splinter at all; she did eventually vote no lynch as you said. In fact, she hasn't cast a "real" vote at all, just pressure votes and the first Splinter vote before the event. She's posted a lot but much of it hasn't particularly moved the game; in fact I'd say she's stalled it at least twice, but that isn't inherently scummy. It's not pro-town but it happens, so that may be NAI. And as much as I liked Splinter's read on her entrance into the game and general demeanor, that's a bit shot since he was scum.
On the other side, I find Swamped generally shady so far and her jumping onto your vote is odd, especially since it was early in your push.
But I also find it weird that scum would TD with scum, even if it ended in No Lynch. I can see a world in which she could be neutral. It is unusual for scum+scum to focus on each other so much in thread, and they have that relationship and do this already, in other games, so it didn't feel forced or that there was another layer with it.
Generally, for me, it is inconclusive, so I don't think she would be my target today. Where do you look if you remove her from the equation? Do you have any other targets or are they dependent here (looking at the votes, etc., as you said.
Verelios
Were-elios
Inherent BP for Zipped doesn't make sense period.
Ynnek7
OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
Ivery read over my post a few times, and I'm not seeing a typo. What am I missing?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
In the post I quoted you insinuate you think she could be lying about being a Gladiator.
sigh
remember, Geno, in your game, all the times people said "there's no way we have x!!"? and how often they were wrong?
anyway, I expect they will be prime ITA targets so it will probably resolve before the lynch, unless everyone misses.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
No one is saying Vere is a roleblocker.
Especially not Zipped or Vere lol
Ynnek7
OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
Damn, thank you. Yeah, that should be role cop. I think I had that stuck in my head since the roleblock was part of the arguement regarding the two.
I mean, there's a slight chance, but I doubt it.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
BP?
that seems a weird point to get stuck in your maw
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
small chance but my theory rests on her being scum gladiator. You said my theory doesnt work well for either one. For scum gladiator why doesnt it work?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
You can only get hot takes from me m'lady
and I knew Rynam was scum by the way people were reacting to him
and I knew Rynam was scum by the way people were reacting to him
Verelios
Were-elios
Honestly, it would make this entire situation really bullshit because I could live only to get NKed, so I really don't believe his claims.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Because it doesn’t actually help them. Look, both were already mostly town read. So why kick off the TD?
“But, but what if she really did have to use it?”
Okay, then why does she use it on a scummate?
“Well, it gives them town cred..”
They already had that.
“But they get more.”
If they’re that desperate to be town read then why not bus Melon since her ability is now useless in your own words? I mean damn that kicked D2 off ready to duel. If scum is that insistent on killing each other why drag it out? Why not make it more convincing?
this isn't really tracking to me. i mean getting nk'd is always a possibility...
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
What's the current topic of discussion? Zipped and Vere both being role cops?
Verelios
Were-elios
This scenario doesn't make sense for town-Melon either, even if her power was only D1
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Also I keep scrolling but can't find anything about this Thunderdome?
Hey. Sorry I've been away.
Can you explain this? Are you saying the way town reacted to him or other scum?
Also am I being blind is there a schedule for ITA?
I see now melon is taking claim for the thunderdome? I thought gladiators enter the thunderdome as well?
Skimmed half of today's activity.. how do you guys manage to work and put in so much into this game? Really impressive.
Can you explain this? Are you saying the way town reacted to him or other scum?
Also am I being blind is there a schedule for ITA?
I see now melon is taking claim for the thunderdome? I thought gladiators enter the thunderdome as well?
Skimmed half of today's activity.. how do you guys manage to work and put in so much into this game? Really impressive.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I have never played a game with melon so I have no idea if she's really scum or not
but a really scummy melon sounds nasty. Is there odor to it? is it dank?
but a really scummy melon sounds nasty. Is there odor to it? is it dank?
Muffin
is being held hostage by Sammi
Next phase is in around two hours, there's a counter in Sorian last vote count post
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Others can chime in, but from my perspective, Rynam was acting hostile and scummy and others caught on and he got got
Verelios
Were-elios
I'm still not seeing a scenario where someone rolls RC and inherent BP
Seems to me that what he's saying is he doesn't have BP and since Zipped claims he does, he feels there's a lie somewhere.
Doesn't really prove alignment for either of them either way but it's how I read it.
Verelios
Were-elios
Look kind of early, page 7-8
Not impossible in a game with shots flying around.
The interesting thing for me is - let's assume they both actually are role cops and one has BP. Which one is more likely to have it?
I can potentially see a scenario in which mafia rolecop Zipped happened to check Vere and see that HE was a rolecop and pulled this. That would be something.
I can also see town RC having BP to help them last longer.
One could be a neutral.
All I do know is that the ITA is gonna be a time.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Town Melon probably does it for fun without caring too much
The schedule for today can be found at the bottom of the day 2 opening post as well
https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/186/page-17#post-25538
The opening post of the game is also mostly up to date, haven’t had a chance to cross out a couple names but their are links at the bottom to all current events.
https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/186/page-17#post-25538
The opening post of the game is also mostly up to date, haven’t had a chance to cross out a couple names but their are links at the bottom to all current events.
Verelios
Were-elios
Didn't you already fail?
This is what holds me up - town melon is probably also light on early scum hunting. So I can see town melon in her actions. It’s just not a great argument.
I'm not shooting, the rest are.
wait what why would we do that
How does all this (Vere responding to zipped here) look in light of the scum flips and the Zipped/Vere situation?
Does scumVere act in the event as he does?
Does scumZipped check him after this?
There are more questions but I’m gonna nap until the ITA.
Mb, playing cards and typing mafia wasn't the best idea. Meant lynch zipped if Vere flips town.
So just looked back
That description fits @Kawl pretty close as well. What are your thoughts on him?
Also I haven't had a chance to do thorough reads so won't be here for this ITA. Will have my Shoot/protect/kill ready before tomorrows ITA.
That description fits @Kawl pretty close as well. What are your thoughts on him?
Also I haven't had a chance to do thorough reads so won't be here for this ITA. Will have my Shoot/protect/kill ready before tomorrows ITA.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
So you have nothing of substance. Just your opinion on how you read them as town?
You were among the first to vote no lynch and plant seeds that it was rng and two townies
This is in response to Geno calling out supposed townies about going for a no lynch in the TD.
Scum Gladiator puts herself and scummate in TD at a time when scum team can push to no lynch. You would be part of that no lynch scum team as well possibly.
Regardless of how they were being read b4 the td. A number of players basically 100% town read them based on how the event played out. You can never have too many town points.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Holy shit, it’s almost like we each have our own opinions. If you want to scum read Melon and everyone that no lynched go for it. Let me know how far that gets you.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
You pointed out there was a flaw in me thinking scum gladiator was possible. What you posted only amounted to "Why would Mafia want more town points". nothing else.
More town points via a risky stratagem is more the point. Why do anything when things are already in a decent spot for both of em
Apollo
Apollo will wreck your goddamn face
Kill verelios before Zip, especially if Zip really is BP so that we can verify without having to hit twice. It makes the most sense.
The melon is a scum gladiator theory seems like a real stretch. IMO there are much better and much less risky ways to get town points without hoping for the scum team to rally a 50 player game to no lynch.
The melon is a scum gladiator theory seems like a real stretch. IMO there are much better and much less risky ways to get town points without hoping for the scum team to rally a 50 player game to no lynch.
LuxCommander
Bro.
Sorry. Work is busy today. Am a bit behind due to the game going fast this afternoon...
Still curious about that post about a team I quoted on day 1. Will try to find it later; I want to find out more about it.
Will be back around 7:30pm CDT.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Again, your theory is that they did it for bonus town points past what they had. If so, why not go for the full bus? That’s even more town points! Why do they go into the ITAs today ready to shoot each other when if they had this master plan you’ve cooked up they could’ve just done it during the TD?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Maybe they felt so confident they could control it? They were/are the most vocal and can lead convo.
If this happened in the middle of the day when it was less likely to be manipulated by coordinated mafia shenanigans then I would feel better about it. But at that hour and the no lynch so easily goin that way with both Splint and Melon both working towards a no lynch. I dont buy it.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Why bus wn your not forced to? Saying they will ita each other and doing are two different things. Who says they would actually follow thru on the ita?
Why would they shoot each other if they both just saved each other in the TD?
Why would melon say she will shoot Splint when she had a good chance of lynching him?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
@melonrabbit why did you claim namor and thor?
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Just had a catch-up of the last few hours. Agreed that I think we're going to need a Vere or Zipped flip at this rate to sort out the deadlock. I'm hoping that this isn't a town vs. town situation, but it looks like we'll be needing some answers either way.
Regarding Ezekel and Melon - I concede that there's an outside chance that scum really could have been willing to risk bussing a JOAT to make the survivor look more credible, but it still seems a bit of a push to me at the moment. Perhaps one to come back to if more information comes to light, but all I'm seeing at the moment is more WIFOM than an off-license.
Regarding Ezekel and Melon - I concede that there's an outside chance that scum really could have been willing to risk bussing a JOAT to make the survivor look more credible, but it still seems a bit of a push to me at the moment. Perhaps one to come back to if more information comes to light, but all I'm seeing at the moment is more WIFOM than an off-license.
Had some questions you two skipped over
@Geno Geno
@Zippedpinhead Zipped
Though on the other side, cocky-feeling himself Geno is more likely to be town than scum.
@Nomad Sparkster Jokes don't work when you're the only one laughing. We're halfway through Day 2 already. Please try to do something, my guy.
And are we gonna get a mod bump on @SalvaPot or what
@Geno Geno
@Zippedpinhead Zipped
Yeah I don't get why Geno of all people would try to claim that. This game is over double the size of his game. Relying on role meta to the point where you shut down any alternative is just being too presumptuous.
Though on the other side, cocky-feeling himself Geno is more likely to be town than scum.
@Nomad Sparkster Jokes don't work when you're the only one laughing. We're halfway through Day 2 already. Please try to do something, my guy.
And are we gonna get a mod bump on @SalvaPot or what
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Melon implies she DIDNT do the TD.
She says she can't claim and can outright deny causing it. But why does she go out of her say to imply she didnt choose the td. She couldve ignored this.
@Natiko is this what you mean about them saying they were gonna shoot each other?
You don't find it convenient that when they can guarantee one or the other dies in the TD they both stay away from it. Then afterwards they are at each other again vowing to take a shot?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I never claimed I was Thor.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
That’s why all the revealed scum so far were on the no lynch vote right? If Melon is scum and pulled off this amazing maneuver, why bother to claim at all? What benefit would it serve when instead she could leave it unsaid and thus leaving more confusion amongst town which leads to easier mislynches?
How are you going to sit here and say “why bus when you’re not forced to?” while also arguing scum created a scum v scum thunderdome when they weren’t forced to?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
mb misread post
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Why claim? - Cuz she thought it would kill the discussion and she would be read as 100% town.
Scum V Scum because they were just playing around?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You do you, but you’ve built an entire case on WIFOM and scum taking an unforced gambit. Why risk Splinter’s role over Rynam’s for instance?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Maybe Splint wanted to have fun? Idk
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
@Natiko You are so sure they were goin to shoot each other in the ITA.
Why didnt melon do it then?
She posted a gif before me when the ita started. Their "duel" doesnt even make sense anyway with you dying instanly if the shot hit. So how would they shoot each other.
Melon on Splinter death:
She wanted to personally kill Splint? She had him on a platter in the TD and turned away.
Why didnt melon do it then?
She posted a gif before me when the ita started. Their "duel" doesnt even make sense anyway with you dying instanly if the shot hit. So how would they shoot each other.
Melon on Splinter death:
She didnt even attempt to kill Splint, but someone want the kill so bad? Why not take advantage when you had the opportunity? And if you scum read Splint, why give him the chance to kill you first?
She wanted to personally kill Splint? She had him on a platter in the TD and turned away.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m on mobile and too busy to go back, but I’m pretty sure Splinter said ITA 2.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
I believe you that he said it. Im just asking you if you took melon at her word that she would shoot Splinter, why didnt she?
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
@melonrabbit
why didnt you shoot Splint first given the chance? Especially since it seems like the consensus was he was gonna shoot you day 2.
why didnt you shoot Splint first given the chance? Especially since it seems like the consensus was he was gonna shoot you day 2.
Xbro
Bags his own tea
I'm not quite caught up, was it delayed?
Muffin
is being held hostage by Sammi
He did say that it'd probably be more 15 to 20 minutes after the countdown
Oh, just anyone then?
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
bloodshed is right
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