Game Thread One Night Ultimate Werewolf XV.2



It was a dark and stormy night at the little village of Mafieraburg. The sound of wind gusts and rain against the windows already made it hard to sleep, but for some, there was far more real cause for concern. An ancient evil had awoken that night, and they could feel it. Now they all dutifully exited their homes; tonight Mafieraburg was a stage, and they had a role to play. It would be an eventful morning. Again.


Player list:

1. turmoil7 - GMT-3 - he/him
2. Apopheniac - EST - he/him
3. Lone_Prodigy - EST - he/him
4. Geno - UTC - he/him
5. Faddy - UTC+1 - he/him
6. Fantomas - CDT - he/him
7. Natiko - EST - he/him
8. Dr. Monkey - EDT - she/her
9. malus - UTC+2 - he/him
10. B-Dubs - EST - he/him
11. TheChuggernaut - CST - he/him

Day Start:

 
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Game Setup Recap:
  1. Roles are shuffled and one is assigned to each player randomly.
  2. 3 roles will be unused and will be referred to as the center cards. Some roles can interact with these cards.
  3. During the night phase, players use their roles and they execute in the order specified below.
  4. Note that a player's final role and alignment can change during the night. Unless specified by a role, you will not be notified of this!
Rules:
  • All applicable MafiEra game rules apply to this game.
  • Votes can only be done at the end of the game and will happen privately, by sending me a PM on Outer Mafia with the command Vote: [Player Name].
  • A tie results in all players tied being lynched together.
Roles in play, in "wake up" order:

Werewolf Team:
  • Werewolf (x2) - At the beginning of the night, the each Werewolf wakes up and learns who their partner is.
  • Minion - The Minion learns who the Werewolves are. They won't learn who the Minion is. Though he is not a werewolf, the Minion is on the Werewolf team.
Village Team:
  • Mason (x2) - The Masons learn each other's identities.
  • Apprentice Seer - The Apprentice Seer looks at one of the roles in the center.
  • Paranormal Investigator - The P.I. looks at up to two other players' roles, one at a time. If the P.I. views a Werewolf or a Tanner, he will not view any more cards, and will become a Werewolf or a Tanner, respectively.
  • Robber - The Robber trades his role with another player, learns his new role and doesn't do anything else at night, even if the new role could still act.
  • Witch - The Witch may look at one of the roles in the center. If she chooses to do so, she must swap that role with any player's role.
  • Troublemaker - The Troublemaker swaps the roles of two other players without looking at them.
  • Drunk - The Drunk swaps his role for any role in the center without looking at it.
  • Insomniac - The Insomniac looks at her own role, to see if it has changed during the night.
  • Revealer - The Revealer learns any other player's role, and if it's not a Werewolf or a Tanner, it will be publicly revealed for the rest of the players.
Neutral:
  • Tanner - The Tanner does not wake up at night; see more below.
Win conditions:
  • Village - The Village wins if at least one Werewolf dies.
  • Werewolves - The Werewolves win if no Werewolves are killed, even if the Minion is killed.
  • Tanner - The Tanner wins if he dies. If the Tanner dies and no Werewolves are killed, the Werewolves do not win. If the Tanner dies and all Werewolves are in the center, the Village does not win.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hello, friends! It's Paranormal Investigator Fanto, and I'm on the case!

It should come as no shock to you all that the first person I investigated was Dr. Monkey! I saw that she was the Robber.

The second person I investigated was Apopheniac, just because he's the only person here I've never played with before. I saw that he was the Drunk.

My only experience with ONUW was reading through the last game, so my apologies if I'm a bit slow to putting things together or coming up with theories and stuff, but I do understand the rules and how things work with the roles and night actions. I hope we have fun!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So just to get a claim list started I suppose:

1. turmoil7 -
2. Apopheniac - Claimed as Drunk
3. Lone_Prodigy -
4. Geno -
5. Faddy -
6. Fantomas - Claimed Paranormal Investigator, Checked Monkey (Robber) and Apopheniac (Drunk)
7. Natiko -
8. Dr. Monkey - Claimed as Robber
9. malus - Claimed as Mason
10. B-Dubs -
11. TheChuggernaut -

I think that covers it for now? We also know that we had no Reveal at day start, so as explained, either they hit anti-Town or it's in the middle.
 
Didn't realize the werewolfes learn who their partner is, so waiting for my partner is pointless.

The other Mason is Lone_Prodigy.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, let's do this by order of Night Actions.


Werewolves -
Minion -
Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy, checked Center Card 1 (Revealer)
Paranormal Investigator - Fantomas, checked Monkey (Robber) and Dr. Worm (Drunk)
Robber - Monkey
Witch -
Troublemaker -
Drunk - Dr. Worm, replaced with Center Card 1 (Revealer)
Insomniac - Turmoil (No Change)
Revealer - Dr. Worm, formerly the Drunk
Tanner -

Current Center Cards:
1. Drunk
2.
3.


Is that logic right?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, let's do this by order of Night Actions.


Werewolves -
Minion -
Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy, checked Center Card 1 (Revealer)
Paranormal Investigator - Fantomas, checked Monkey (Robber) and Dr. Worm (Drunk)
Robber - Monkey
Witch -
Troublemaker -
Drunk - Dr. Worm, replaced with Center Card 1 (Revealer)
Insomniac - Turmoil (No Change)
Revealer - Dr. Worm, formerly the Drunk
Tanner -

Current Center Cards:
1. Drunk
2.
3.


Is that logic right?
Assuming we are all telling the truth, of course!
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
Are you sure? Why not include that in your initial claim? Maybe you should go check that you actually looked at card 1.
It had no relation to the fact that you and turmoil were lying lol Feel free to wring your hands more though.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
It had no relation to the fact that you and turmoil were lying lol Feel free to wring your hands more though.
I'm saying you are lying and picked a role and action to implicate the most players you could. If someone else is actually the witch you will have called 3 people liars.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
And that you didn't have the person you gave the card to because you never actually did that. You forgot that part of the role when fake claiming
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
I'm saying you are lying and picked a role and action to implicate the most players you could. If someone else is actually the witch you will have called 3 people liars.
And that you didn't have the person you gave the card to because you never actually did that. You forgot that part of the role when fake claiming
So I robbed Natiko and he was indeed the Witch.
You were saying lol
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
So you popped off that someone else had reported looking at the wrong card without checking your own action?

If that’s true it will live in infamy. RIP.
Technically I popped off on Natiko for not claiming who he gave the card to....
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Interesting.

So currently in either of these worlds, whether Geno or Faddy are telling the truth, Turmoil is always lying about Insomniac because that's what Natiko saw under Card 1, and Monkey confirms that Natiko was the Witch since she robbed him.

Is that logic correct? Sorry if I'm messing up on stuff here, like I said, first time in ONUW.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
even if Faddy's lying, we can't say he's not Tanning or Minioning
I'm not. I just messed up my number.

Geno is most likely a wolf because he doesn't want to get caught in his lie, or at least he is being sneaky about it.

Turmoil is a pretty sure wolf too. He is never the tanner or the minion because he doesn't know for sure he is going to get counter claimed. He just ran back his wolf play from the last game.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
The lesson is as well as reading the rules twice. Read your PMs twice.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
What is left unclaimed? Whatever Chugg was is now in the hands of Dr. Worm assuming he told the truth about his choice.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
What is left unclaimed? Whatever Chugg was is now in the hands of Dr. Worm assuming he told the truth about his choice.
Troublemaker is unclaimed. Although Geno is probably keeping that up his sleeve.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
What's the best way to chart out a claim list here for this game? Obviously with the role swaps and stuff, and the order of night actions, we're basically going to have a claim list and then a "this is the final role set" list because of the swaps, correct?
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Turmoil is a pretty sure wolf too. He is never the tanner or the minion because he doesn't know for sure he is going to get counter claimed. He just ran back his wolf play from the last game.
If I want to YOLO the same fakeclaim what stops me from doing the same as tanner?
I swapped Monkey and Fanto because I thought it would be funny
I would had done the same
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So the claims for original roles on the board are:

Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy / Geno
Paranormal Investigator - Fantomas
Robber - Monkey
Witch - Natiko
Troublemaker - Chuggernaut
Drunk - Dr. Worm
Insomniac - Turmoil

And then assuming Natiko and Faddy are telling the truth, Turmoil and Geno are lying, and the Insomniac (Card 1) and the Revealer (Card 3) were in the middle. Otherwise if Faddy is lying and Geno is telling the truth, then we don't know what Card 3 was because Geno says he checked Card 2.

Does that make sense?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
this is a good excuse because otherwise not only would Geno have to be lying, but so would Natiko, Monkey, and Fantomas
But what if they are?

What if Fantomas is the minion calling out wolf team mate monkey. Then Monkey is covering for wolf Natiko and Geno is the Tanner.

Didn't think of that did you? What if the start cards were this.

Werewolves -Monkey/Natiko
Minion -Fantomas
Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy, checked Center Card 3 (Revealer)
Troublemaker - Chuggs (swapped monkey and fanto)
Drunk - Dr. Worm, replaced with Center Card 1 (Unknown)
Insomniac - Turmoil
Tanner - Geno

Middle
Revealer (card 3)

B-Dubs/Middle
Paranormal Investigator
Robber
Witch
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
I was going more for Geno+Natiko+Monkey as OG scumteam with PI Fanto checking me first before being turned by Monkey but your idea is fun too

Too bad it's implausible
 

TheChuggernaut

I'm always town.
But what if they are?

What if Fantomas is the minion calling out wolf team mate monkey. Then Monkey is covering for wolf Natiko and Geno is the Tanner.

Didn't think of that did you? What if the start cards were this.

Werewolves -Monkey/Natiko
Minion -Fantomas
Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy, checked Center Card 3 (Revealer)
Troublemaker - Chuggs (swapped monkey and fanto)
Drunk - Dr. Worm, replaced with Center Card 1 (Unknown)
Insomniac - Turmoil
Tanner - Geno

Middle
Revealer (card 3)

B-Dubs/Middle
Paranormal Investigator
Robber
Witch
So all of them just got super lucky and claimed roles that were all in the middle that no one else saw and no could counter claim. Faddy, this is ridiculous
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
But what if they are?

What if Fantomas is the minion calling out wolf team mate monkey. Then Monkey is covering for wolf Natiko and Geno is the Tanner.

Didn't think of that did you? What if the start cards were this.

Werewolves -Monkey/Natiko
Minion -Fantomas
Masons - Malus/LP
Apprentice Seer - Faddy, checked Center Card 3 (Revealer)
Troublemaker - Chuggs (swapped monkey and fanto)
Drunk - Dr. Worm, replaced with Center Card 1 (Unknown)
Insomniac - Turmoil
Tanner - Geno

Middle
Revealer (card 3)

B-Dubs/Middle
Paranormal Investigator
Robber
Witch
Even you don’t believe this.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Even you don’t believe this.
No I don't. You, monkey, Worm and Fanto are locked town. Masons are 100% town.

Bad guys are Turmoil/Geno/B-Dubs and the fourth bad guy in the middle
 
Occams razor Faddy, what's more likely? The ridiculous scenario you are saying or you are just lying.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Occams razor Faddy, what's more likely? The ridiculous scenario you are saying or you are just lying.
Between the ridiculous scenario and me lying... it is the ridiculous scenario because I know I'm telling the truth.

Which is the less ridiculous scenario where you are lying.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
why is Faddy defending a scenario dependent on an earlier claim he made that he has now twice disavowed
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So is Faddy the tanner or is he just Faddying about here?
I'm leaning towards the latter at the moment.

Is it possible that Turmoil is the Tanner just coming out with that wack Insomniac claim? That's what I'm wondering right now.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Staff member
We really need @B-dubs to show up. He should produce either the final possible claim or a counter claim.