Spectator Thread Greed Island GM control room
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Yeah.
Monkey and Nat obviously can't be partners, the game has to have at least a semblance of balance. Which is weird to say with so little info, but still.
If it was Nat the two 100% shots could be a way to buy some town-cred, so it's not impossible.
They could both be town though, but that'd be too boring and weird flavor-wise, as you mentioned.
You were so jumpy and a bit less active than normal (RL stuff probably), I'd have voted you so hard. Maybe even after your claim.
Yeah that was rough Kalor, sorry you felt like that. The hard part when meta-reading is to determine if you're correctly balancing your own biases and not being unfair/just mean to someone else - see Sawneeks/Muffin in this game - so it's a bit hard for everyone.
There're ways to counter meta by design though, maybe you'll be luckier next time.
The not paying attention is a bit of a different problem though, and totally inexcusable. Been there, it's demoralizing when people don't really read you.
I do think your role was sooo cool though, who cares if the wincon was hard to pull off. Loved it.
Other notes;
Trying to parse if Kyan's answer to Sawneeks are genuinely-concerned town or a jumpy-mafiosi is hard too. Always worried about players that only appear a bit more when they're the point of discussion themselves, it's never a good look. He has other interesting content though, I'll re-read that.
Zipped has been a but absent but that's normal it seems? Let's see what he can do next phase. Go Zipped!
Also loving all the cooking talk, that pie sounds good but I'd probably change the Kahlua (and Salva will probably shout heresy).
Early in the game, I felt crap due to teeth issues. (which I've posted about recently in discords support section) so My D1 was even worse than usually and my D1 is usually pretty bad.
I started to try properly before my death though.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think he would do that because it's day 2 and it's way more likely to hit town than scum, also so many people taking offense to kalor and stu, they would be targets and I don't think monkey would yolo shooting someone the town doesn't want dead
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
So, hows the game been so far?
Everyone was nice and polite for all of 10 minutes at the start but last phase they shot each other out of spite and it seems like D3 will be a repeat of that.
Also Stu exploded.
and I shot Sorian D1.
But not before he was able to set me up for blowing up. :(
At least you cleared Vere, who is normally a bit hard to read.
Because that's a straight, valid, and totally-not-messed-up check, right? Right?
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Man so many chats to keep up with!!! It's hard to post here in spec chat because of having to keep up with them all. I feel bad for the one player that's in three of them LOL. I honestly love it.
I'm so glad a certain player lived so some of this chat magic could occur.
I'm so glad a certain player lived so some of this chat magic could occur.
That day end was kind of amazing LOL. What a fucking clusterfuck.
I will say however that some players have continued to be amazing such as Natiko and Monkey. I'm also really enjoying people's reads, especially one person's I won't say now. XD
So who you guys think should have been lunched in the end?
I don't have a hard time reading Vere actually. Maybe it's because we make games together, but I have been able to correctly call his alignment in most games except for HvV2 LOL.
Different point and def a spoiler
My favorite thing about nin shooting himself during the minigame, was that he is a lover and could have gotten his partner killed LOL. That is so nin.
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Franconp
Frank
lokiduck
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Right! I forgot that was included to make his role less anti-town. No wonder he took the risk then LOL.
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think I would had gone B-dubs, malus and blarg wagons could become useful later in the game when alignments are known
I would have fought heavily against the B-Dubs lunch.
It came out of nowhere, very very close to EOD and people who hadn't voted yet suddenly appeared and Dubs was not even around to defend themselves.
I would have gone with Blarg as I can't remember one useful thing from D2 from them.
Fucking Muffin Sneeks lmao
Sawneeks
little green dog
Shut up is he actually scum??????
No idea but I wouldn't be surprised
Sawneeks
little green dog
If he is I'll be so damn proud of him. Mercilessly kills you off and talks his way out of getting shot on the same day.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Funny thing is I didn't realize Fran nerfed my Role until late N1. So all that talk about a strong power was because I thought the BOO command still revealed the person's entire role PM if it worked, not just their name. hopefully it still worked out into them killing me since that was my goal all along. :x
Sawneeks
little green dog
love is but a fleeting thing :(
Sawneeks
little green dog
How so? I agree with bits of it. malus/dubs should probably still be looked at and I still think something with A/Donna is suspect so it's covering all the bases.
Dubs for one.
Blarg as town despite being completely useless yesterday?
Won't touch on A/Donna
Sawneeks
little green dog
Dubs is all over the place for one thing. I'd have to actually go and read his posts again but most felt like he wasn't sure what to do/what to post. Either he is Town who is real confused or Scum that really doesn't know what to act.
And now I just remembered the Day End with the Dubs rush so uh, yknow, maybe you are right.
WHy is no one pushing malus? Dude didn't even full claim and it hurts my soul.
Blarg is like a DBZ arc. You get 4 episodes of build up before he really starts going and so far the build up looks town.
I agree here. Malus needs a bit more pushing
I still think someone who is doing nothing townish shouldn't be townread. By all means I guess, think of them as null but town reading them? Nah.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Hm, i said this to nin in the chat but i'm like 99% sure monkey is town. she can fake her uncertainty super well but that flip flop on malus towards day end was way too earnest.
I will laugh if Nat is scum though. Suggesting that scum wouldn't give a town monkey a gun is silly and I will be highly amused if Nat pocketed her for that. It was partially why I targeted him last night just to make sure he didn't have something extra on him. Shame it failed.
Curious to see what monkey has extra though. Sounds like she may have something that really damns dubs?
I will laugh if Nat is scum though. Suggesting that scum wouldn't give a town monkey a gun is silly and I will be highly amused if Nat pocketed her for that. It was partially why I targeted him last night just to make sure he didn't have something extra on him. Shame it failed.
Curious to see what monkey has extra though. Sounds like she may have something that really damns dubs?
^ that,
Not sure I would use it as the main reason to vote for Dubs but it's at least better than yesterday.
I've been thinking that Monkey is town and Nat is scum myself since yesterday.
I just feel like one of them is scum and one is town and that's what I'm going with.
Could be wrong of course but hey, we'll see.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Aaand there it is.
Would be a hell of a gamble to copy a chat as Scum and then invite the two highest town read players into it but not impossible I guess.
Think someone said it in here but I don't think anyone pushed for why Nat used his ITA yesterday? That would be something to know.
Would be a hell of a gamble to copy a chat as Scum and then invite the two highest town read players into it but not impossible I guess.
Nat is more of a gut than anything as his posts always seem so reasonable.
Think someone said it in here but I don't think anyone pushed for why Nat used his ITA yesterday? That would be something to know.
I agree about him seeming reasonable. But it does make me wonder why both of the top townread players are still alive. lol
Sawneeks
little green dog
To be fair it's only now D3 even though the game feels like it's been going on for weeks :p
True but I would be more worried about them than you. Yet you got NK'd taking Nin with you XD.
I mean yeah, lucky shot for scum but still XD
Sawneeks
little green dog
part of me hopes Dubs comes in here and just shoots immediately.
re; Blarg/Donna it's a weird situation. Blarg does this every game so it's not like you can pick the memes apart and guess just from that, it's what he does in the middle of those jokes that counts. The problem seems to be that Donna being the one to push this isn't helping since she has kinda sat on Kyan and Blarg as vote candidates/scum reads the whole game because they are simply hard to read. While I think she is being earnest about that view it doesn't help make her case since that alone won't sway everyone, especially the more analytical folks.
re; Blarg/Donna it's a weird situation. Blarg does this every game so it's not like you can pick the memes apart and guess just from that, it's what he does in the middle of those jokes that counts. The problem seems to be that Donna being the one to push this isn't helping since she has kinda sat on Kyan and Blarg as vote candidates/scum reads the whole game because they are simply hard to read. While I think she is being earnest about that view it doesn't help make her case since that alone won't sway everyone, especially the more analytical folks.
She hasn't mentioned Kyan for a while tbf.
Sawneeks
little green dog
whispers i hope someone has that same mentality about MALUS
Sawneeks
little green dog
Agreed. Though in that one I will try and be less nitpicky on people's roles...
i'm so sorry, muffin. :(
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Monkey has some brass neck questioning Donna about flip flopping on B-Dubs. Dubs would have been lynched yesterday if monkey didn't change her vote to malus.
Monkey also has ALL the day 2 Dubs voters in her town pile. She doesn't have to think somebody bussed but it is a highly likely scenario imo.
Monkey also has ALL the day 2 Dubs voters in her town pile. She doesn't have to think somebody bussed but it is a highly likely scenario imo.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
At the start of the game I am given a random town to look after. Donna is as town as Royal.
During the first 24 hours of each day phase I can send a command to Fran to give Donna one of many benefits (ie, lunchproof, day kill immune, night kill immune) seeing B-Dubs claiming a day vig shot and not trusting him with it, Donna is currently day kill immune, let that test my ability.
Being an extradimensional being death cannot stop me, rather than being allowed to go to spec I am instead able to use all of my abilities (I'm still dead though so can't post ect).
I see Fran also ignored my sage advice of telling people who are not conjurers that they only get 1 command.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Ha, I'm blind. Thanks.
Can't remember how A reacted to my info about Royal being 100% town locked but that could be something to look into. Donna I'd feel better about given this information but this doesn't clear A completely even if the choice of Control for inspiration is the best thing ever.
Can't remember how A reacted to my info about Royal being 100% town locked but that could be something to look into. Donna I'd feel better about given this information but this doesn't clear A completely even if the choice of Control for inspiration is the best thing ever.
Franconp
Frank
You. Funny thing, scum actually targeted Nin first and both of you would have survived, but then they swapped to you. And no, they didn't know that you were loved.
Everyone is Thresh in this game.
I will say the same thing that I said in the scum chat. This game really tired me. I had fun with all the roles and all but running it is a lot of work, a lot more work than a regular game. I had to deal with a looooot of things, had to check a whole lot of others and answer a thousand questions and everyone complains about every little change or decision that I took. I don't know if I will run another one of this. The role creation rules definitely need some work so there are more stricts rules for creating roles and less confusion. I love the concept so I may run another but definitely not any time soon.
BTW, big spoiler:
We will miss you Monkey.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
They are LOL. Like I said Scumchat has been really fun this game. Would def recommend along with all the other chats.
Sorry you got NK'd, when they first picked nin I was hoping you guys would make it, but then they switched LOL. Either way you did great Sneeks. Town is definitely going to miss your help. :D
I've been rooting for Donna all game actually :D I'm proud of her for not giving up even when she was being massively scum read :D
Sorry you feel like that Fran, with the handful of flips we have I can totally see the logistics being super complex and requiring a lot of work. Maybe a co-runner would be a good consideration for a future game? It seems like you've been doing a good job though, congratulations on that.
She had pretty good points with Donna's overall play this game, but the "We had to question you a lot to get the full claim." is the weakest imho, considering we're talking a small piece of info in the form of timing of a message there.
Monkey probably thinks she has the game solved - reading her arguments, she's likely right on at least a couple baddies - and she's looking for more answers and evidence from the suspects' interactions in her sometimes relentless style.
Is this a spoiler? I'd think 4 baddies is about right for this size, considering the neutral.
This sounds so funny and weird out of context.
Also go Donna!
She had pretty good points with Donna's overall play this game, but the "We had to question you a lot to get the full claim." is the weakest imho, considering we're talking a small piece of info in the form of timing of a message there.
Monkey probably thinks she has the game solved - reading her arguments, she's likely right on at least a couple baddies - and she's looking for more answers and evidence from the suspects' interactions in her sometimes relentless style.
Is this a spoiler? I'd think 4 baddies is about right for this size, considering the neutral.
This sounds so funny and weird out of context.
Also go Donna!
turmoil7
Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Just speculation on my part, I think 5 is a little more likely than 4
5 non town is likely but one of them was Kalor :P
lokiduck
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LOL I was expecting to come back to more pages than this. Monkey was worried about voting getting messed up because of the ITA, but since town seems settled on Dubs who seems to be hiding/busy, activity has slowed down.
Maybe if they had done the ITA they could have taken care of Dubs and moved on with what info he gives them. Mind you we'll see what happens when he does enter.
Maybe if they had done the ITA they could have taken care of Dubs and moved on with what info he gives them. Mind you we'll see what happens when he does enter.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Alright who gave Monkey acces to spec? She had the same thought as me. XD
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I really wish town and scum would try to be more active even if stuff is looking bad for them. We've had a few people sort of check out of the game today and while I get it can be frustrating being scum read constantly. Monkey is right that if some of these players are town they need to try and do their best to convince town that they are.
This is why I've been very supportive of Donna. :D At least Malus is making an attempt it seems.
This is why I've been very supportive of Donna. :D At least Malus is making an attempt it seems.