That's curious about the daily challenge. I had thought it would be some kind of mini-game or something. Any thoughts on what in your posts would have prompted it?
I guess I didn't feel it was my place to out HP's claim. Blarg already kind of hinted at it, and I don't know what other kind of claim would be so unlikely to be made by mafia, so I feel like the pieces were there as well. I can see why you say we should have said something, though.
I think the last-minute swerve to HP was pretty suspicious. There were so many arguments all day that we should test a dog, even those who were against flavor-solving were like "fine, whatever, if you say so we'll test a dog". Then there was this bizarre swerve to clearly-not-a-dog HP, based on what? Inaccurate flavor analysis that he owned up to?
In retrospect, Chuggs REALLY didn't want to be tested. He did everything he did to get out of it: pretending he was chill about it, arguing that it was a waste of the day, getting aggressive, flinging accusations at others. Pretty much like someone fighting for their life. And in the end he succeeded. IMO he probably won't much be looked at tomorrow, because the dread of a retread usually causes the momentum to swing away from the person who was a huge focus of D1. No one will want to relitigate the test-Chuggs conversation and those who do will be accused of being obsessed with flavor. So yeah, I'm much more suspicious of Chuggs now.
The not going on the away team thing ... I keep going back and forth on what I think of it. It's true it doesn't make much sense as a mafia power as presented, but all I can think is that whatever happened, whether it was an action by Chuggs or another player, it has to have been just one aspect of the action. "Your power is to make yourself/another player appear on the wrong team according to votes, should there be a day when the players are split into two teams based on votes, by the way that day is D1" just doesn't seem like something ATP and Zipped would be excited to write in a role pm. We have incomplete information on what happened to Chuggs, and without complete information it's hard to tell whether it seems like a mafia action or town action, and a self- or other- focused action. So it neither clears Chuggs nor implicates him.
Looking at the rest of the HP voters, besides you:
-I already had a bad feeling about Random from D1, so I want to take a closer look at him.
-Hedin I feel basically ok about, since he was against testing the dogs earlier and his frustration at the lack of leads felt genuine.
-Loki was one of the main drivers of the narrative that assuming 5 dogs was some kind of Machiavellian ploy. I don't like the case she made against HP at all. I liked her other posts, and her resistance to the away team vs home team framing, but EoD was alarming enough that I want to watch her.
-Natiko was a self-preservation vote, basically, but something did feel off about his behavior. I am not good at reading him.
-nin has been completely checked out. There was one game where he was mafia and acted kind of like that. Was it mario karts? I can't put my finger on it. It seemed like he voted for HP basically out of inertia. "OK, the thread seems to be going this way, I'll go along with it" was his attitude. Go with the flow. He has been busy lately IIRC, so I'm not going to say it's a scum tell, more that it's something to watch.
-Finally, Mazre. Had gut reads earlier against Hedin and Ambulance ... what? Was anti-dog-test earlier, like Hedin, so I don't find his vote for HP inconsistent.
I guess I come out of EoD suspecting Chuggs, Loki, and Random, then maybe Nat and nin, and of course still Z-Beat.
I guess the split did it's work strangely. I do feel more close to Home team, likely because it seems like the away team wants to be estranged. I know, I know, we're all town but it's not really a good feeling. In terms of reads, I'm feeling good about you, Hedin, Loki and Kyan to an extent.
I guess there's some natural camaraderie that comes from being in a thread together, but the away team vs. home team squabbles went way beyond that and I was not a fan of it. I know that Maol and Nat have more aggressive play styles than I do, and they were probably trying to get people off balance to make reads or something, but it ended up just injecting random suspicion. They and Chuggs were the main aggressors in the home vs. away team gang war IIRC, but I was out of commission/checking in on mobile for large chunks of that day. Do you see anyone as having pushed for the division between the teams? How do you think that developed?
Also, do you agree that we should look at HP voters, and what are your thoughts on them?
Finally an RL note. I'm going up to Vermont for the long weekend with friends, to a cabin that we've been assured has wifi, but I might be gone for longer stretches starting about 3PM UTC tomorrow. I'm sure we'll talk in this thread more before start of day, but in case I forget to say: please feel free to say that we were in a night thread together. I probably won't be around right at start of day.
