Spectator Thread Knives Out - Spec Chat

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
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Welcome to the Spec Thread! Keep in mind everyone will be able to see the thread once the game is over, so let's keep it chill and fun in here!

Woooooo, Normal game, let's go!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
@Aeleus, reading through that Scooby Doo lore in your OP is so interesting lol. I was recently doing a little research there myself, trying to find the original series on bluray, and I was not expecting to go down such a large rabbit hole lol. The history behind that show and its many variations is fascinating.
 
@Aeleus, reading through that Scooby Doo lore in your OP is so interesting lol. I was recently doing a little research there myself, trying to find the original series on bluray, and I was not expecting to go down such a large rabbit hole lol. The history behind that show and its many variations is fascinating.
You can thank the wikipedia page for that lol, the number of variations is crazy no idea why they haven't let the show die (though I won't complain).

Also this would be the bluray you'd be looking for https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scooby-Doo-Where-Are-You-Complete/dp/B07T3JQ4NW if you didn't find it (they rebranded the 3rd series of where are you to the scooby doo show for reasons)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
You can thank the wikipedia page for that lol, the number of variations is crazy no idea why they haven't let the show die (though I won't complain).

Also this would be the bluray you'd be looking for https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scooby-Doo-Where-Are-You-Complete/dp/B07T3JQ4NW if you didn't find it (they rebranded the 3rd series of where are you to the scooby doo show for reasons)
Yes, that's the one I found eventually lol. "Season 3" is one of the things that was tripping me up, apparently that can mean different things to different people lol.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
i even had a banner for your game ready @Fanto but i was told that only a season banner was needed. :(

Next time you tell me you need something and i will be here with my paint and Procreate experties my darling.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
i even had a banner for your game ready @Fanto but i was told that only a season banner was needed. :(

Next time you tell me you need something and i will be here with my paint and Procreate experties my darling.
If I remember, I'll let you make the banner for my next game lol. <3
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think it should be interesting to see how a 24 hour D1 goes here, I think the only time I played in a 24/24 game was the original Gif Mafia, which was only a 9 player game iirc.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I think it should be interesting to see how a 24 hour D1 goes here, I think the only time I played in a 24/24 game was the original Gif Mafia, which was only a 9 player game iirc.
Yeah, I don’t think I’ve ever played in a 24 hour game at all.

You wouldn’t think the time was short with how slow it’s moving, though. A welcome change of pace to the last few games.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Running a game like this is so much more chill than EZA was lol. I don't have any spreadsheets open, I'm not sending PMs left and right, I don't need to keep track of multiple different custom mechanics. This is the life lol.

I'm guessing the pace will pick up more in the morning once everyone is around and we get closer to EoD. Jman is doing his standard early ghosting of the thread, FEPs is usually pretty bursty with activity plus he's in Japan iirc, and ATP probably went to bed shortly after the day started, so they'll all likely be around plenty still before EoD.
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
I was going to claim but I was distracted by the goverment dropping on the plaza to close it down so I had to get busy quick to save my merchandise, lol
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
covid regulations are weird like that, you can follow them to the letter but if they feel like closing you and you don't pay them "lunch", you are pretty much screwed.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Welp, not the best start to the game for Town after this night, but we'll see how they pick things up tomorrow.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I wish I ghosted Longer LOL

Salvapot is a rough role to lose day 1.
Welcome! Sorry to see you bow out like that, but these games get to the best of us.

I was going to claim but I was distracted by the goverment dropping on the plaza to close it down so I had to get busy quick to save my merchandise, lol
You got done pretty dirty there ngl

Welp, not the best start to the game for Town after this night, but we'll see how they pick things up tomorrow.
:eyes:
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Now that I think about it a bit more, "not the best start" is kind of selling things short.

This is, on paper, the worst possible outcome for Town so far actually lol.
Absolutely lol
 
I kind of wish I had made more of an effort to get stuck in, but the rp really put me off for some reason. I know I wasn't obligated to rp back in kind, but it just really threw me through a loop
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Page 17 at the end of D2, this must be a new record. I think even 999 was more active, and we dwindled down fast there.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
RIP Hedin, kind of a rough day, it felt like there wasn't a whole lot going on.

Town will definitely need to win this the old fashioned way if they pull it off. As people may have guessed with this being a Normal game, those were the best two Town PRs that went out on D1/N1, so yeah, it's going to be almost nothing but social deduction from here on out.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
As for activity, I don't think it would change much being 48, there would just be longer stretches of inactivity. I've ran small games like this with 48 hour days, and it was usually people complaining about the day dragging on and lasting forever, with like 8 hours going by without a single post being made.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
I'm not even mad because I couldn't generate anything really strong to push back with. I still think Zeke's whole explanation was off and I was starting to get bad vibes on Monkey but couldn't come up with a good angle on her.

This is rough since everyone seems to be holding things really close to the vest.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
In fact, this game already has more pages than my LiS mini game, which was 48/24 for the first two days.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Keep in mind the days are only 24 hours. at the same time post count would still be low with 48 hour days
I'm not going to fault them for the low post count. They're all busy to varying degrees and the fact that they're even posting good content is nice. It's just dead, and what I mean by dead is a re-occurence of circular logic and lethargy in town to the extent that I can skip entire pages and still know the general thread movement.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
@jman1954goat I'm sorry if how I approached you was part of the rest why you subbed out, I definitely could have been more diplomatic in my approach.
Don't worry about it Hedin It is My fault I had to sub out and nobody else.

when of the rest of the players read this after the game don't feel bad It's me being overly sensitive that was the problem not you.

I can be very emotionally unstable and have a hard time separating mafia play from real Feelings.

I clearly have to work on my playstyle mixing more smoothly with other players. I had a whole plan that depended on at least one of you accepting getting a double Vote.

In general I do like passing responsibility to other players on abilities I have (even though the double vote was a fake gambit) its how I test them and get reads on them but clearly most other players don't like this.

I truly believe I am one of the worst Town players so I try to approaching solving from Unique angles and it usually helps me be more accurate in my reads.

One of these days I will make it through a season without becoming a sobbing mess at my Keyboard I swear.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
I'll say this, though. ScumZeke does not fake a red check on himself, not even in a message, even if the play didn't go as he anticipated. There's no way. People are too inclined to scumread him. The play works the same if he puts the red check on someone else but for me, that was the tell: he put it on himself. He was too naive and not thinking it through because town.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
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(which I also should have realized about Hedin and kinda did about two minutes until EoD but I mean, when I say we all fall prey to it, I mean all of us)
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
I'll say this, though. ScumZeke does not fake a red check on himself, not even in a message, even if the play didn't go as he anticipated. There's no way. People are too inclined to scumread him. The play works the same if he puts the red check on someone else but for me, that was the tell: he put it on himself. He was too naive and not thinking it through because town.

I think for me it didn't seem like something scum would do but it made absolutely no sense to me for town to do if it worked like he thought it was going to work. There were just too many question marks for me to move on, maybe if it had been a 48 hr day I would have gotten past it but with the limited day (and having a relatively busy work day) I just didn't have time to work through it.
 

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
I think for me it didn't seem like something scum would do but it made absolutely no sense to me for town to do if it worked like he thought it was going to work. There were just too many question marks for me to move on, maybe if it had been a 48 hr day I would have gotten past it but with the limited day (and having a relatively busy work day) I just didn't have time to work through it.
The move reminded me of the one that Blarg pulled against Maol in Stardew Valley Mafia. I can see the rationale for trying to get a read on Monkey, but the messaging mechanic being different here made that strategy not possible.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
This feels like scum Chugg coming in and trying to be a little assertive to steer things how they want.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
It became pretty obvious Chuggs was scum the moment you died, lol.

It was pretty obvious Chugg was scum when he replaced in. I didn't think it was fair to go straight at him because ATP replaced. Now I even said yesterday that I didn't think Zeke & Chugg were on the same team and that should have been the point where I backed off Zeke.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
I think for me it didn't seem like something scum would do but it made absolutely no sense to me for town to do if it worked like he thought it was going to work. There were just too many question marks for me to move on, maybe if it had been a 48 hr day I would have gotten past it but with the limited day (and having a relatively busy work day) I just didn't have time to work through it.
I think with a 48 hour day I'd have gotten past you, too. What we can learn from this game is that we are all too stubborn for short days. lol
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Hey everyone :< I subbed out because I haven't been in the right headspace since I lost my job and since it was clear this game was going to be solved through deduction I was worried about voting wrong and losing it for town (that and the scum team keeping me alive to endgame, I really didn't want that and was legit hoping they'd kill me last night so I wouldn't have to sub out).

My biggest regret is not pushing is not pushing Chuggs more. His attack on me was scummy as fuck and while I made sure to explain myself, I should have pushed it more but part of why I didn't was because no one seemed interest in pursuing him. At least I can be smug that I was right :<
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Oh good I knew Hawthorn would replace in for me. :D I think she'll make a great replacement Loki and I hope she can do what I wasn't in the right mind space to be able to do :<
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Hey everyone :< I subbed out because I haven't been in the right headspace since I lost my job and since it was clear this game was going to be solved through deduction I was worried about voting wrong and losing it for town (that and the scum team keeping me alive to endgame, I really didn't want that and was legit hoping they'd kill me last night so I wouldn't have to sub out).

My biggest regret is not pushing is not pushing Chuggs more. His attack on me was scummy as fuck and while I made sure to explain myself, I should have pushed it more but part of why I didn't was because no one seemed interest in pursuing him. At least I can be smug that I was right :<
yeah, I am kicking myself.

And it's probably best that you replaced out. It's hard to concentrate on anything after news like that. <3
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
yeah, I am kicking myself.

And it's probably best that you replaced out. It's hard to concentrate on anything after news like that. <3
yeppppp Guess we can both regret it together. :D

And yeah i agree, it's part of why I finally did it. Because of this i can how cheer on Hawthorn, deal with RL stuff, and then prep the final prep stuff for Fate Mafia :D
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Yeah, last night I was thinking about Chuggs and how he sounded so good when we were going back and forth but it occurred to me that as soon as I stopped chasing him, he melted away completely, and it was like the proverbial light bulb. Oh well. :(
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah, last night I was thinking about Chuggs and how he sounded so good when we were going back and forth but it occurred to me that as soon as I stopped chasing him, he melted away completely, and it was like the proverbial light bulb. Oh well. :(
TBH I said he was scummy for townreading several people and I knew it, but no one seemed interested in him yesterday and I didn't have much else to go on besides meta.

It's like how my town read on Zeke was based on meta too since he felt a lot like town him when he was a messenger last time XD
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
I just didn't know how to approach Chugg. My view on him was tainted by when he came in.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
I think the problem Chugg has is that no one has bitten on Zeke the last two days and they are not really trying to push anyone else. Like they need to shift attention to feps or someone else but they've gone at Zeke so much a sudden switch would look weird. Another thing where if they had 48 hours maybe that gives them enough time but they pretty much wasted half the day so far.
 

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
Haha I definitely am glad I’m spectating this game as opposed to playing it. I can see where I would have succumbed to some of my bad habits especially in this day phase.

On a somewhat related note, is there a way to improve at mafia without actually playing? I feel like in the games I’ve played there’s been a significant gap in skill between myself and the rest of the players. I feel guilty about signing up for games when I’m just being a millstone for my team so if there’d be a way to improve without dragging other players’ games that’d be great.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
That feeling when you see 75% of the posts on the last page are chuggs while realizing that it's not volo, people are just asleep #dead
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Haha I definitely am glad I’m spectating this game as opposed to playing it. I can see where I would have succumbed to some of my bad habits especially in this day phase.

On a somewhat related note, is there a way to improve at mafia without actually playing? I feel like in the games I’ve played there’s been a significant gap in skill between myself and the rest of the players. I feel guilty about signing up for games when I’m just being a millstone for my team so if there’d be a way to improve without dragging other players’ games that’d be great.
It definitely helps to see things from an outside perspective (like in spec) since you can understand a player's intentions so much more without the pressure and preconceptions of playing. You can start to see why they would post or do something rather than taking their word for it.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Haha I definitely am glad I’m spectating this game as opposed to playing it. I can see where I would have succumbed to some of my bad habits especially in this day phase.

On a somewhat related note, is there a way to improve at mafia without actually playing? I feel like in the games I’ve played there’s been a significant gap in skill between myself and the rest of the players. I feel guilty about signing up for games when I’m just being a millstone for my team so if there’d be a way to improve without dragging other players’ games that’d be great.
Spec Chats, like Vere said, or even joining a modchat just to observe, that's something that's totally possible, just need to reach out to a gamerunner beforehand and ask. Getting the bird's eye view of a whole game before it even starts, and being able to watch Scum do their thing in real time, and watch Town yell at each other instead of Scum, can be helpful for noticing those same patterns in the games you later play in.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Why does everyone think Malus has a double vote?

I literally vomited to tell them I was lying about that Pay attention folks.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
just had a dream about mafia. This is the third mafia dream I have had but I barely remember anything from them.

I am going to describe what I remember from this latest dream while it is fresh most won't make sense because it's a dream of course.

In this dream I had to replace out of a game because before the game started in real life I was in Zippedpinhead's house. While in his house I used his restroom and saw in bathroom closet a clue on his bathmat that let me know he was a investigator

While in spec chat Zipp suddenly made a comment about me in spec chat and I freaked out because he was still in the game.

When I tried to say he can't talk to spec chat it turns out I could not access my account and it was actually Zipp logged in as me talking with my jman account in spec chat.

since I was still in Zipps house I used his computer then played as zipped in the main thread trying to solve the game without people knowing it was me.


I woke up around this point and can't remember any other details.
 
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