Spectator Thread The Beehive

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turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I look at the roster and want all of them to be scum

This looks like it will be a fun game
 
I'm rooting for town to pull out their first win of the season. I believe in them ):

Looking forward to spectating with you all!
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Town will likely do what they always do and just Town it up at the end. I am really excited to see how this all plays out though, it's a great group of people in this game.
 
Town will likely do what they always do and just Town it up at the end. I am really excited to see how this all plays out though, it's a great group of people in this game.


I'm guessing the end of Buffy was a perfect example of "towning it up" ?
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Indeed. See also recent Dark Souls mafia, which was so very towned up in all the ways possible, but we had a neutral that was amazing.
 
These posts got really serious really fast :o
I don't think the speculating on how the game is set up is gonna help much with no info, but it keeps people talking I guess?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Gotta remind myself to ask Ty about his Town Circle thing again. He explained it to me once before but I still don't quite get how it's useful. :/
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
CS hasn't posted yet, he will save D1

I would like to lynch Kalor on D1, I feel that he can reach the late game just by virtue of pokerfacing his way
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Kalor's pokerface still impresses me. I ALWAYS Scum read him for it but he always seems so calm.

I'm just waiting for Splinter or Bear to pop in and call everyone Scum for guessing Scum Numbers.
 
I'm not getting the town circle thing either. I thought it was a joke but if it's an actual strategy then I have no clue how it could help town? Maybe if it forces scum that are drafted into the circle to act like the town they're in it with?

Kalor's avatar looking so stoic definitely helps with the pokerfacing lolol
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Probably is the people in the circle choosing the lynch from outside of it

Obviously on D1 it is just BS

On D4 of Buffy probably Fran, gorlak, flush, Nicole, hom3 and me could have attempted it

Gee, wonder why Ty4on didn't propose it then
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
There is also this strategy I read about, of the cop and masons claiming on D3, If the cop readings are still alive, that could be up to 5 confirmed townies on d3

Is that something that has been tried here?

I think that if I were to propose it I would be lynched for role fishing lol
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
From what I understand the idea of a Town Circle is similar to the strategy that Turmoil posted. The more Townies you can confirm/semi-confirm, the less people you have to look at in a game for possible Scum. So instead of having to keep track of 13 people and trying to figure out who is Scum there, a Cop/Mason Claims can knock out a bunch of those people so you'd only have to look at 8 or 9 people instead.

Haven't heard of that specific strategy before though Turmoil but it's a great idea. You're very right that it would likely get you lynched too hahaha. The negatives there would be if there isn't both a Cop AND Masons it would just solo out one role but honestly depending on the Game's size I see no i see with it.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Other upside is that if the vig hasn't used its shoot yet(and it shouldn't had used it), it dramatically reduces the chances of it miskilling

Oliver is ohyeah from Berserk, Terra

I miss his chibi avatar
 
Probably is the people in the circle choosing the lynch from outside of it

Obviously on D1 it is just BS

On D4 of Buffy probably Fran, gorlak, flush, Nicole, hom3 and me could have attempted it

Gee, wonder why Ty4on didn't propose it then
You'd totally have killed Gog.
 
I don't like all the define scumhunting and pressuring questions, feels unnecessary?

I'm feeling like faddy and terra aren't scummates. If one flips maf, I'd townread the other. It just seems too early to have manufactured an argument, but hmmm.

Also poor terra lol From reading Buffy and this I think he's just always aggressive D1 and people are scumreading him for it.
 
I read absolutely nothing day 1. It's always a shitshow. Just look at who starts the vote trains basically when reviewing on day 2.
 
I don't like all the define scumhunting and pressuring questions, feels unnecessary?

I'm feeling like faddy and terra aren't scummates. If one flips maf, I'd townread the other. It just seems too early to have manufactured an argument, but hmmm.

Also poor terra lol From reading Buffy and this I think he's just always aggressive D1 and people are scumreading him for it.
Terra started Berserk fake-claiming as a D0 cop with a red check. He's always a good time.
 
I still can't believe gog wasn't scum ): So many unfortunate coincidences
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Terra started Berserk fake-claiming as a D0 cop with a red check. He's always a good time.
I remember reading that part, haha! That was a really interesting D1
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
I don't see any issue with guessing at game setup unless you stArt heavily speculating on PRs. That's just doing scum work for them. But figuring out how many times you can FUCK UP seems fine to me, especially since we have community standards that tend to determine game size.

AUTOCORRECT all-capped random stuff and I'm leaving it. Enjoy.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I don't see any issue with guessing at game setup unless you stArt heavily speculating on PRs. That's just doing scum work for them. But figuring out how many times you can FUCK UP seems fine to me, especially since we have community standards that tend to determine game size.

AUTOCORRECT all-capped random stuff and I'm leaving it. Enjoy.
Yeah, pretty much. Also looking at who likes to talk about role speculation/Scum Team size but not much Scumhunting outside of that can sometimes yield Scum. Talking about it alone doesn't usually say much.
 
I still can't believe gog wasn't scum ): So many unfortunate coincidences
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I remember reading that part, haha! That was a really interesting D1

Right there with you.. was hoping to find some master plan in the scum chat to set up GoG. But no, it was all coincidence.
 

Android Sophia

Miss Congeniality
Is there even a good reason to lynch day 1 other than seeing votes? It always seemed to make more sense to no lynch day 1

In a properly designed game, no lynching day 1 reduces the amount of mislynches a town has without giving the town any information. It is usually a mathematical disadvantage to no lynch on day 1 as a result.

Also, lynches are something that the mafia faction has little to no control over. They cannot lynch someone on their own, so they are basically at the mercy of reacting to how town players vote. By no lynching, especially on the first day of a day start game, you are handing the Mafia a significant amount of control over who lives and who dies. This usually offsets any benefits to a day 1 no lynch.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Joking aside I do it because there is always a chance to catch Scum on Day 1 or get Scum in the running. Later on when people flip it's better to look back once people are confirmed. For instance, if both trains on Day 1 were Town then Scum could have just held back and not cared. It's something to look at.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
lol, are these dudes gonna lynch Faddy? Hopefully this is just early day one nonsense because Faddy is #forevertown.
 
Votes against Faddy are pilling up way too much on him to be a scum and he could have avoided it all by just not bringing a touchy subjects.

Ty on the other hand, I just have a bad feeling about him, minus faddy who is in a bad position his opinion on other players switches way too quickly and for no reason.

It's still too early to make a definitive judgement with some players not showing up yet though.
 

cabot

Why.
To be fair he's a little more eager to play this game, which is typically what scum Splinter does. He was coming off a bad performance in Buffy though, so I could see it as a Town redemption arc.
 

cabot

Why.
Not really sure regarding the town circle thing, but I am aware of fast moving wagons in a game with a lot less players.

Do I read Faddy one way or the other? not really.


Wouldn't lynch him so far though, he's at least generating discussion from others.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Grizzly has been conpicously absent but no one seems to have cared/noticie
It's not unusual for him to miss a whole RL day. So that could be why no one's said anything, though you'd think a newer player would mention.

*Spliter my d1 MVP right now because GOD do I hate the fluff accusation. That shit grinds my gears every time. That and "coaster" when someone is clearly contributing.
 
It's not unusual for him to miss a whole RL day. So that could be why no one's said anything, though you'd think a newer player would mention.

*Spliter my d1 MVP right now because GOD do I hate the fluff accusation. That shit grinds my gears every time. That and "coaster" when someone is clearly contributing.

Watching this day 1 is pretty enjoyable.

Y: "I'm not fluff! You are, Player X"

X: "I'm not fluff! You are, Player Y!
 
I don't like the fluff reasoning either, there's not exactly hardhitting analysis to be had on D1. I don't think the reasons people are jumping on Faddy are all that valid, the speculating on town prs wasn't a good move, but it doesn't feel scummy to me.

I'm just feeling lynching someone quiet today tbh
 
Day 1 is such a cluster ... It seems to boil down to just not offending anyone or give anyone something to latch onto. Has scum ever slipped up on day one?
 
All this endless fluff.

Right there with you.. was hoping to find some master plan in the scum chat to set up GoG. But no, it was all coincidence.
Our only action towards her was inaction. We identified her as a PR early on (N2?), but she always seemed like someone who would end up mislynched due to D1.
 
LP is gonna keep on being LP and coast it up, haha. If everyone auto-lynched the coasters this strategy would be dead by now.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
They should lynch FB as a token of gratitude

Personally I want a Kalor/LP thunderdome

LP is gonna keep on being LP and coast it up, haha. If everyone auto-lynched the coasters this strategy would be dead by now.
That won't change the nature of lurkers. They would be easy mislynches most time.
 
That won't change the nature of lurkers. They would be easy mislynches most time.

Depends if these lurkers provide meaningful thoughts on their mandatory 10 posts per day, otherwise they aren't helping town and deserve a mislynch. I rather keep those who keeps the conversation going and actively try to help their fellow townies.
 
I'm feeling Faddy as just a misguided townie. Thinking about prs seems beneficial, but not out in the open. They need to stop digging the hole deeper trying to justify it, too. I'm paying more attention to the people jumping on it, seems like really low hanging fruit.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Day 1 is such a cluster ... It seems to boil down to just not offending anyone or give anyone something to latch onto. Has scum ever slipped up on day one?
A few times. Gafia 1 had a Day 1 Scum lynch and so did Pop Mafia. It's very rare but it's not impossible to do.
 
omg coolest's recording

I didn't think it was related to the game until I started hearing geno in the lyrics but I love it. This game needed some jokes :D
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
I will laugh really hard if CoolestSpot gets lynched

without giving away too much, it would be more good evidence that day one lynches might not be such a bad idea
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
The difference between this game going the right way and the wrong way is like one vote and that is very discomforting to watch
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Let me guess...

Everyone is vanilla but two different cult recruiters and two cult cops :p
 
Hmm, this day's lynch looks like it's going to be between Geno and Kalor. I have a town lean on Geno and null on Kalor so I hope they lean that way. You can do it town!
 
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