Game Thread MafiEra Mafia Ultimate Day 3

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San Franpsycho

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Healing The Bear could explain a deathless night, but then, so could the position of the behelit, as well as other unclaimed protective services.
 

Illuminati member 4

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i think it would be best to wait until tomorrow for ephi to be sure even though it gives her a night to do something, i have no idea who should could be.

if we all come to that decision do we want to no vote today then? we already lost two town and have a line on scum but aren't sure who they are.
I would be interested in a no vote if we still try to find Ephi

At least to see what she has said in here
 

Minecraft Steve

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sparks mentioned:
kawl
neki (lol)
atp
blarg
sorian
fran
ephi
fanto
terra
fate
rando
bear
stan
salva

doesnt feel particularly teamed with anyone here to me, most would be blarg, defends blarg a bit but then votes for blarg idk
 
I don't agree, I think we should make an effort to try and find ephi now. Scum has an interest in obfuscating and making it harder for town to find Ephi and we can learn a lot about the game now if we are able to make a convincing list of who is who in this thread.

I would be interested in a no vote if we still try to find Ephi

At least to see what she has said in here
i don't mind taking the time to try and see if we can find her, we still have like 27 hours or something, just if we don't feel like we have found her i think a no vote is a safer play.
 

Bob Ross

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If Sparks' lover is town, they could claim here without telling what their actual game identity is. That shouldn't violate the costume rules right.
 

Illuminati member 2

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Looking at the board, and assuming Ephi didn't have the map, Ephi could target:
Brazil
Sawneeks
Zook
Sparks
vere
fran
bear
wee
pandora
neon
nin
hedin
aeleos
zip
blarg
 
Pazzo was a bit too eager to NUKE someone on a double kill phase for me tastes. Scummy vibes even if Sparks!Spider-Man was being weird as fuck. Me not like.

We gotta deal with Ephi tomorrow I guess, considering that partners may not be alignment linked. Looking for connections for D1 and D2 can be fun too.

Thinking about it. Sorian and Sparks teaming up for today is kinda weird. Maybe these pairs were predetermined after all? Got nothing on Cinde so far.
 
Pazzo was a bit too eager to NUKE someone on a double kill phase for me tastes. Scummy vibes even if Sparks!Spider-Man was being weird as fuck. Me not like.

We gotta deal with Ephi tomorrow I guess, considering that partners may not be alignment linked. Looking for connections for D1 and D2 can be fun too.

Thinking about it. Sorian and Sparks teaming up for today is kinda weird. Maybe these pairs were predetermined after all? Got nothing on Cinde so far.
I still think Pazzo did good, I straight up take all responsibility there especially since I indicated it would only be one death
 

Minecraft Steve

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ephi was shading sawneeks at day end, dont think they are teamed
ephi also was on fando early as a bad vibe but then used the ec thing to say fando looks good, might be scummates distancing early on and then using the ec thing as an excuse to power wolf

thats of course assuming the check is real
 

Illuminati member 2

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Pazzo was a bit too eager to NUKE someone on a double kill phase for me tastes. Scummy vibes even if Sparks!Spider-Man was being weird as fuck. Me not like.

We gotta deal with Ephi tomorrow I guess, considering that partners may not be alignment linked. Looking for connections for D1 and D2 can be fun too.

Thinking about it. Sorian and Sparks teaming up for today is kinda weird. Maybe these pairs were predetermined after all? Got nothing on Cinde so far.
They are linked only because Sorian made that role, I doubt they were paired by the game design unless Geno is free to just mix and match whoever when the day came.
 
They are linked only because Sorian made that role, I doubt they were paired by the game design unless Geno is free to just mix and match whoever when the day came.
They mean linked today, nothing I did should have made Sparks my lover during this day phase. It’s a rude coincidence honestly
 

Illuminati member 2

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ephi was shading sawneeks at day end, dont think they are teamed
ephi also was on fando early as a bad vibe but then used the ec thing to say fando looks good, might be scummates distancing early on and then using the ec thing as an excuse to power wolf

thats of course assuming the check is real
red check
Like, the reddest of red checks.
Town cop death, resurrected cop chief, lovers chat. The only way Ephi is not scum is if there was switching shenaningans, a framer or a miller.
 

Pink Ranger

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Fandorin made a bet when there was a mention that Sparks and Sorian might be masons. Kind of suspect in hindsight after sparks flipped with a lover
 

San Franpsycho

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Don’t really think ephidel is: barney, honey, IM2
Ephidel could be imo: lightning strikes, people with 2 posts like….Michael?, IM3, IM4

obviously not: baba yaga, catalina
 

Illuminati member 2

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why do you think that. Ephi was posting gifs in the game thread just before the day started and was hyped for poker.

what are talking about. Ephi was very active during day 2.
It was very active before the game started and a lot of players were hyped for poker. If I'm not Ephi, who else could I be?
 

Blue Ranger

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Simon has several ways to protect Catalina. We can also give Catalina the Behelit.
So far we’ve had pretty safe Simon uses. Not seeing a use of it is a bit concerning but there’s still at least one really good town use that you wouldn’t want to claim openly so it’s a bit of a toss up.

I am the reason the Nightkill didn't happen Last night

I healed Bear who Might have been the nightkill Target but I was also marked for Death.

My first thought was I saved Bear but I am thinking that's less likely since getting the perfect heal in a game this big is hard

I think Scum team number two marks people to Die on Even Nights While Team 1 Faction kills Odd Nights

I think everyone who is marked while die at once if someone doesn't cleanse them or something.
The marking likely does something but I’m doubtful it’s a mass kill. Until we find a way to remove it or see it activate there isn’t much to be done either way. With how much bullshittery is going on I doubt we’d ever be able to pluck out not just mafia but a specific player with said role.

Ok checked with Geno this should be ok to say

I have to survive until final 8.
I’ll give you a pass then. Neutrals have swung previous Geno games to town’s favor after all.

Ok so heres a question
If geno was lying to thresh about the lovers link, is it also theoretically possible that baba yaga is not actually town? Or is that sacred and gamerunners wouldnt lie about that
Based on past precedence it’s possible for it to be a lie if Baba Yaga’s flavor name is Muffin, but it feels far too early to go down that paranoia road without a strong reason.

gj sorian.

2 days protecting sparks and then you get them killed
Brutal

i'm not going to lie, i wouldn't mind whoever has the dagger test this
…why?

So wait.

Sparks was a one-sided lover. And the other side of the lover wasn't Sorian.

So someone was in a chat with Sparks and should know what they did.
If no one claims it now while in costume that’s sketchy.

Well, Pazzo was right about that.

I'm trying to think of scum reasons to drop the nuke then and there, but I feel that your motivations are probably not scum. I don't think scum would want to waste the nuke now, or miss their chance of nuking two players at once.

Hmm, this makes me think scum is not allowed to know who the other members are in costume. Think about it, it's an unfair advantage if they have day kills, they can nuke two players and they'll be safe from repercussions as long as no people figures who they are or votes them out, and they can avoid getting voted out by either justifying their kill or maybe an item or power.

But if they don't know who their teammates are, they have to be careful who to daykill or even vote out. They are just too strong if they know who each other is during this phase.
I debated this myself as I was catching up. Ultimately I think I land that it’s a bit of a wash. I think mafia would absolutely jump at the chance to get potentially multiple lover flips today. I also think they’d happily take an easy shot that won’t be scrutinized too heavily. That said.. Pazzo had no reason to think two people would die based on what Thresh said. If you’re mafia and you’re settling for just one death I think you’d want to hold it for one you felt would be more impactful. Especially with it being a day kill. I don’t come away with an explicit townread, but I don’t think all told the shot was scummy.

I can tell you right now that I am in a chat and we can post in costumes in there. So even if you can't work out exactly who each person is everyone in the chat knows the costumes of the others in the chat. I assume it is the same for mafia.
Geno games always got a million chats. I guess this one at least doesn’t sound like it’ll be so secretive I’ll only learn about it after the entire damn game ends lol

Ok I’m back, now that I’m dead dead, we can do some facts

I can still vote and hammer and all that, I’m just not alive for the purposes of saying “8 is today’s majority” and I’m not blocking the scum win condition anymore.

You can’t interact with me, I know my PM says items but I was actually confused on that too, I’m not valid for votes, roles, anything.

The role I created was chief of police, I was given the name of one random cop in the entire game before it started and then I was allowed to once see all cop results in a single night (not who they targeted just a list of what everyone got back in PMs)

Backing up a second, when I won roulette, the item I received turned into 2000 mafiera bucks instantly, sounds like Fran got something similar after VI. After you all rudely passed me on pub lord, I was no longer obligated to supply a prize for trivia so I spent my money on a map. Two people had a map yesterday as the one yesterday was bought as well. The map MAKES IT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANY MAP NONSENSE. So last night, I could act on the entire monopoly board and one other person could have as well.

I used my role last night and I only got back one report, someone scanned as not town. What I was referring to earlier in the day is that I’m shocked there was no role cop activity which makes me feel like scum might have been unable to act last night. It was only N2 and I’d think a role cop would have more than 1 shot.

More importantly, Sparks did report a red check in private to me which obviously matched the only cop check that should have happened last night.

The red check was Ephi

I do not want to hear any nonsense that Spark told me the wrong name, this was before he started getting weird. Idk who his other lover was or what was going on there but I trust the check
That’s a good red too, Ephi wasn’t even on my radar. Not sure who they are in this game though. I know people that definitely aren’t Ephi but that’s about it.

I had no indication pre flip that Sparks was in another lovers role, I just started getting the weird messages that someone else was posting from the account but I have to assume that was Sparks playing games
Secretly letting someone else invade your costume account would be so rude but kinda hilarious lol
 
I wonder if the point of the Spider-Man costume possibly having two owners was to have them end up talking with each other, just so someone could post the pointing meme, lol.
 

Captain Skunkbeard

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Lookin' at the names o' this here crew, I could nah be assured t' pick out this Ephi from the lot reliably. I could start skewerin' the shadiest o' the bunch wit' the pointy end o' me cutlass 'n see who falls, 'n perhaps find this Ephi that way, but me mates seem an overly cautious bunch.
 
this was before his flip and we got further clarification. he had apparently survived being lovers and was talking about being hard to kill which seemed like it would have been a good target for the dagger. after he clarified then that became moot.
 

Pink Ranger

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i was gonna go big brain and say what if pink ranger is ephi but they mentioned previous geno games and i think this is ephis first

i think enough people have said illuminati member 2 isn't ephi for me to think I am wrong.

there were a couple of ephi-like things i saw and i don't see the harm of throwing around accusations and seeing what other people think. Because either we find ephi or we are hitting into the dark.
 

The Ghost of Stealin Stan

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SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED

And yet I haven't the foggiest who Ephi even is. Never seen! Never read! Dunno. If anyone can say with confidence they know whose costume Ephi's wearing... I still wouldn't vote there today, because I'm no man's dog.

*Deflates*
 

Bob Ross

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I wonder if the point of the Spider-Man costume possibly having two owners was to have them end up talking with each other, just so someone could post the pointing meme, lol.

If that is the case, wouldn't killing Spider-Man have resulted in two flips? Why would only Sparks flip.
 

Blue Ranger

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SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED

And yet I haven't the foggiest who Ephi even is. Never seen! Never read! Dunno. If anyone can say with confidence they know whose costume Ephi's wearing... I still wouldn't vote there today, because I'm no man's dog.

*Deflates*
Is there some specific criteria you’re looking for that outweighs a red check or are you saying you’re in favor of a no vote?
 

The Ghost of Stealin Stan

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Where is the event

Why not vote Ephi if we find her
I mean

We haven't, we won't

Is there some specific criteria you’re looking for that outweighs a red check or are you saying you’re in favor of a no vote?
You all can just say you want to "No Lynch" today.

You don't have to keep asking people if they mean they want to "No Lynch" today, even though they've already said they don't.

I thought I was the cute one
 

Blue Ranger

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I mean

We haven't, we won't


You all can just say you want to "No Lynch" today.

You don't have to keep asking people if they mean they want to "No Lynch" today, even though they've already said they don't.

I thought I was the cute one
I’ve not once stated I wanted to no vote. I was asking you to clarify your statement because I didn’t come away with a clear idea of your thoughts.
 

The Ghost of Stealin Stan

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I’ve not once stated I wanted to no vote. I was asking you to clarify your statement because I didn’t come away with a clear idea of your thoughts.
Sounds good. This is the fourth time I’ve seen people ask that to someone today, though. The idea’s clearly floating around, and yet no one seems to actually want it.
 

Illuminati member 2

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Turns out this Day IS Among Us.

I think the best way to approach this is if everyone makes a list of people we know can't be Ephi, since some players are easier to identify than others and are not making an effort to try to disguise (heh) themselves.

Who can't be Ephi. (Because it's clear they are someone else)

Who may be Ephi (Because there is no way to identify yet)

I'm working on mine right now and reading through the thread to see what else I got.

I also suggest that whoever hasn't made an effort to identify themselves, might do so if they feel like it. Maybe quote a post where you hint at it, I dunno.
 

Blue Ranger

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Sounds good. This is the fourth time I’ve seen people ask that to someone today, though. The idea’s clearly floating around, and yet no one seems to actually want it.
I think the difference is they asked if we should no vote. I really don’t want to no vote personally, but there’s not been a ton of mafia ass mafia going on today aside from Catalina/IM2’s spat, Catalina’s claim, and the Sparks Nuke debacle which has me now just trying to figure out who people are either to try for the red check or push someone based on their play in the main thread so it’s a bit of a crapshoot.
 

Illuminati member 3

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??? EPHI ???
[He/Him] Goldar - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard - UTC
[She/Her] Zordon - UTC
[He/Him] Black Ranger - UTC
[He/Him] Kool Aid Man - UTC

bleh. Dropped people who did not feel like Ephi, folks who felt like someone else, and ppl who did not have that many posts. Could try reading in detail and making guesses about identities, but it feels like a lot. Will try to do a 2nd run tomorrow, thinking bit more in detail.

If we are not finding Ephi, which seems possible at least, we should go for someone else. I don't think I have that many ideas who though. Could go for silent folks to clear them that way, but that is ah so mechanical and boring and mean. There could be some genuine town reactions to be found in the Sparks mess, might be able to rule some folks out that way. Illuminati comrade 2 felt bit better toward the end of the chaos, perhaps there were others.

Might just do a list of pairs who I don't want dead and then visit random.org for an answer.
 

Blue Ranger

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Turns out this Day IS Among Us.

I think the best way to approach this is if everyone makes a list of people we know can't be Ephi, since some players are easier to identify than others and are not making an effort to try to disguise (heh) themselves.

Who can't be Ephi. (Because it's clear they are someone else)

Who may be Ephi (Because there is no way to identify yet)

I'm working on mine right now and reading through the thread to see what else I got.

I also suggest that whoever hasn't made an effort to identify themselves, might do so if they feel like it. Maybe quote a post where you hint at it, I dunno.
Do you know who I am? I think I know who you are.
 
??? EPHI ???
[He/Him] Goldar - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard - UTC
[She/Her] Zordon - UTC
[He/Him] Black Ranger - UTC
[He/Him] Kool Aid Man - UTC

bleh. Dropped people who did not feel like Ephi, folks who felt like someone else, and ppl who did not have that many posts. Could try reading in detail and making guesses about identities, but it feels like a lot. Will try to do a 2nd run tomorrow, thinking bit more in detail.

If we are not finding Ephi, which seems possible at least, we should go for someone else. I don't think I have that many ideas who though. Could go for silent folks to clear them that way, but that is ah so mechanical and boring and mean. There could be some genuine town reactions to be found in the Sparks mess, might be able to rule some folks out that way. Illuminati comrade 2 felt bit better toward the end of the chaos, perhaps there were others.

Might just do a list of pairs who I don't want dead and then visit random.org for an answer.

i don't think its stealin stan from our chat, just they way they were speaking before sorian made the claim didn't feel like her at all unless she is really trying to play a bit.
 
Looking for Ephi is a fool's errand. She might be partners with a townie as well and it would be stupid to risk losing someone over a straight ass red check. I guess knowing who she's partnered could be juicy, but yeah, we are not figuring that out barring further layers of modifiers.
 

Rey

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If we are not going to try and look for ephi and I agree that it seems too difficult, I just don't see the point in letting this drag on for another day.

I propose we no vote majority and get back to the actual game.

vote: no vote
 

Zordon

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HUNT FOR EPHIDEL IF WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN FIND HER. THOUGH Q'S COMMENT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL SINCE EPHIDEL MAY BE PARTNERED WITH A TOWN PLAYER WHO WOULD DIE WITH HER. SHE MAY BE WITH A NEUTRAL OR THE OTHER SCUM TEAM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WANT TO RISK.

DESPITE MY EARLIER COMMENTS ON THE MATTER I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO A NO VOTE THIS DAY. WITH THE UNFORTUNATE DEATHS OF FUNKY DUDE SPARKS AND SORIAN WE ARE ALREADY DOWN TWO MORE MEMBERS OF TOWN AND ONE BEING A POLICE OFFICER AT THAT. WITH EPHIDEL BEING OUR TARGET I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL THE MASKS ARE GONE.

??? EPHI ???
[He/Him] Goldar - UTC
[He/Him] The Ghost of Stealin Stan - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard - UTC
[She/Her] Zordon - UTC
[He/Him] Black Ranger - UTC
[He/Him] Kool Aid Man - UTC

bleh. Dropped people who did not feel like Ephi, folks who felt like someone else, and ppl who did not have that many posts. Could try reading in detail and making guesses about identities, but it feels like a lot. Will try to do a 2nd run tomorrow, thinking bit more in detail.

If we are not finding Ephi, which seems possible at least, we should go for someone else. I don't think I have that many ideas who though. Could go for silent folks to clear them that way, but that is ah so mechanical and boring and mean. There could be some genuine town reactions to be found in the Sparks mess, might be able to rule some folks out that way. Illuminati comrade 2 felt bit better toward the end of the chaos, perhaps there were others.

Might just do a list of pairs who I don't want dead and then visit random.org for an answer.

I have an idea but I'm not sure just yet.
I AM CURIOUS. WHY NOT CONSIDER BLUE RANGER AS EPHIDEL? THE LARGE AMOUNT OF QUOTES REMINDS ME OF HER STYLE.
 

Blue Ranger

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I have an idea but I'm not sure just yet.
I will agree to self-identify (CAREFULLY) if others do so, kinda surprised since I haven’t remotely tried to hide myself.

i don't think its stealin stan from our chat, just they way they were speaking before sorian made the claim didn't feel like her at all unless she is really trying to play a bit.
I don’t think it is either. I’d be pretty surprised.

Sup fuckers
Owner of the Gun Show indeed

Looking for Ephi is a fool's errand. She might be partners with a townie as well and it would be stupid to risk losing someone over a straight ass red check. I guess knowing who she's partnered could be juicy, but yeah, we are not figuring that out barring further layers of modifiers.
1:1 is odds wise almost always a good exchange for town, and it would give us more to go off of tomorrow. Besides - mafia could get Simon and just immediately force us back into costumes. If (and it’s a very tenuous if currently) we think we can pluck out Ephi it’s worth it.
 

Blue Ranger

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HUNT FOR EPHIDEL IF WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN FIND HER. THOUGH Q'S COMMENT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL SINCE EPHIDEL MAY BE PARTNERED WITH A TOWN PLAYER WHO WOULD DIE WITH HER. SHE MAY BE WITH A NEUTRAL OR THE OTHER SCUM TEAM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WANT TO RISK.

DESPITE MY EARLIER COMMENTS ON THE MATTER I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO A NO VOTE THIS DAY. WITH THE UNFORTUNATE DEATHS OF FUNKY DUDE SPARKS AND SORIAN WE ARE ALREADY DOWN TWO MORE MEMBERS OF TOWN AND ONE BEING A POLICE OFFICER AT THAT. WITH EPHIDEL BEING OUR TARGET I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL THE MASKS ARE GONE.




I AM CURIOUS. WHY NOT CONSIDER BLUE RANGER AS EPHIDEL? THE LARGE AMOUNT OF QUOTES REMINDS ME OF HER STYLE.
You know, I’ll take being compared to Ephi. That’s just a nice compliment even if it’s wrong lol
 

Baba Yaga

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So since I've been gone, it seems that the hot topics have been:
1. The Spider vs Honey debate
2. Cat revealing to be a neutral with some potential insight on markings (something still not adding up about two marks last night imo).
3. Sorian is Thresh and Pazzo nuked Spider (Sparks)

This thread went from 0 to 100 real hecking quick.
 

Zordon

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I will agree to self-identify (CAREFULLY) if others do so, kinda surprised since I haven’t remotely tried to hide myself.
THOUGH I AM ENJOYING THE FUN THAT MASKS CAN BRING, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE ME TO CAREFULLY SELF IDENTIFY I CAN DO SO AS WELL.
 

Kawl

Owner of the Gun Show
If you think I’ve read a 1200 post of a costumed love boat game that I only just found out existed, you are out of your mind. I don’t think this is a scenario to my override in either. In addition it can only be used in the last hour of the day so it’s not like it can free y’all from this hell scape any ways.
 

Zordon

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Turns out this Day IS Among Us.

I think the best way to approach this is if everyone makes a list of people we know can't be Ephi, since some players are easier to identify than others and are not making an effort to try to disguise (heh) themselves.

Who can't be Ephi. (Because it's clear they are someone else)

Who may be Ephi (Because there is no way to identify yet)

I'm working on mine right now and reading through the thread to see what else I got.

I also suggest that whoever hasn't made an effort to identify themselves, might do so if they feel like it. Maybe quote a post where you hint at it, I dunno.
I AM SITTING AND CONTEMPLATING THESE QUESTIONS BUT I AM UNSURE HOW HELPFUL I CAN BE. FOR INSTANCE, I WAS NOT AWARE OF CATALINA'S IDENTITY UNTIL TODAY'S POSTS REVEALING THEM AS SUCH.

I HAVE SOME GUESSES ON SOME INDIVIDUALS BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY TO BE CERTAIN. I COULD NARROW IT DOWN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
 

Black Ranger

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So since I've been gone, it seems that the hot topics have been:
1. The Spider vs Honey debate
2. Cat revealing to be a neutral with some potential insight on markings (something still not adding up about two marks last night imo).
3. Sorian is Thresh and Pazzo nuked Spider (Sparks)

This thread went from 0 to 100 real hecking quick.
You missed that Sparks gave Thresh a red check on Ephi and now the hunt is on.

I've stared at these pages and even ignoring the roleplayers I can't tell who people are for shit.
Steve, Bakura, Blue Ranger, Illu2, Rita, Illu4, Barney, San Fran, Kool-Aid, Me, Stealin Stan, Cat, and Q have posted gifs. I'll give you that she's not Cat.
Then you've got people who barely posted, and people who haven't posted at all (HOWDY PARTNER). This is not my wheelhouse.
 
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